From tchung@openwebmail.org Thu Jul 15 22:53:34 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6G2rXbI015705 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:53:34 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6G2ruip015397 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:53:56 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:53:56 -0700 Message-Id: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040709 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.105 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussion of the base distribution using Conary List-Id: Discussion of the base distribution using Conary List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:53:34 -0000 Hello Specifix! I just joined this mailing list and I would like to help. To begin with, I would like to offer a mirror site for your Linux Distribution. Please add following URL in your list of mirrors: http://openwebmail.org/specifix/download/ Thank you! Thomas Chung From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Jul 16 20:52:36 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H0qZbI021395 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:52:35 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF3E1670E for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H0qdTD030917 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:52:39 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6H0qdD1030915 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:52:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:52:38 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:52:36 -0000 On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:53:56PM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > I just joined this mailing list and I would like to help. Thank you! > To begin with, I would like to offer a mirror site for your Linux Distribution. > > Please add following URL in your list of mirrors: > > http://openwebmail.org/specifix/download/ I have done that, thank you for mirroring. And sorry for the delay answering; we had a list configuration bug that ate my first reply. :-) From tchung@openwebmail.org Fri Jul 16 21:09:36 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H19abI022623 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:09:36 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H1A1ip015190 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:10:01 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:10:01 -0700 Message-Id: <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040717 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:09:36 -0000 Hi Michael, It's very nice to hear from you again. :) I have some screenshots of bugs I've noticed. http://openwebmail.org/specifix/error/ Are you planning to have bugzilla system soon? Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@specifixinc.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:52:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! > On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:53:56PM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > > I just joined this mailing list and I would like to help. > > Thank you! > > > To begin with, I would like to offer a mirror site for your Linux Distribution. > > > > Please add following URL in your list of mirrors: > > > > http://openwebmail.org/specifix/download/ > > I have done that, thank you for mirroring. > > And sorry for the delay answering; we had a list configuration bug > that ate my first reply. :-) > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Jul 16 21:30:16 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H1UGbI022702 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5731670D for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H1UJTD032049 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:19 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6H1UJqq032047 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:19 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:16 -0000 On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:10:01PM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > It's very nice to hear from you again. :) The same! > I have some screenshots of bugs I've noticed. > > http://openwebmail.org/specifix/error/ Thanks, both known. The xkb one is an error in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and we already have a new pyxf86config that solves it, and the fix is built into anaconda for the next alpha release. I don't think we've fixed the sendmail one yet, though it is noted. I *think* that the pyxf86config version got updated in the repository, so if you use the changesets to update conary as discussed on conary-list, you should be able to get a new pyxf86config and run it. Or just edit the configuration file by hand... > Are you planning to have bugzilla system soon? Yes, for some value of soon. Because three of us will be at OLS, it is most likely that we'll get bugzilla running after OLS rather than before. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Jul 16 21:43:51 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H1hpbI022725 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:43:51 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C481670D for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6H1hsTD032306 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:43:54 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6H1hsZs032304 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:43:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:43:54 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040717014354.GB31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Update X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:43:51 -0000 As alluded to in other emails, anyone with the alpha distribution installed will want to update conary, because the wire protocol has changed because of a bug fix. This means that right now, you cannot update conary directly from the repository. Instead, download ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/conary/conary-0.1-10-1-to-0.2-3-2.ccs and run # conary update conary-0.1-10-1-to-0.2-3-2.ccs --replace-files You will know you need this if you get the error: UnknownException: ClientTooOld ['download a new client from www.specifixinc.com'] (Ignore the www.specifixinc.com instruction there for now.) The --replace-files is because some .pyc files change, and Conary by default does not overwrite changed files that it does not know how to merge. (Some changes it does know how to merge, but not changed contents of non-config files.) I think I know why the .pyc files are changing and I'll be looking into a way to fix this. The new Conary has a few changes in command-line arguments. In particular, "replist" has become "repquery", abbreviated "rq". Similarly, "pkglist" has become "pkgquery". The repository has a few changed packages. I'm sorry, I don't have a summary of them... From tchung@openwebmail.org Sat Jul 17 13:20:22 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6HHKMbI025831 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:20:22 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6HHKnip014981 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:20:49 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:20:49 -0700 Message-Id: <20040717171001.M75775@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040717 X-OriginatingIP: 24.31.56.126 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:20:22 -0000 Good luck and hope you get a good response at OLS! Thomas ps. For those of you wondering: Matthew S. Wilson with Specifix, Inc. will be presenting "New approaches in software provisioning and system maintenance" at the 2004 Ottawa Linux Symposium on July 21-24 See following page for more info: http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2004/view_bio.php?email=matt@wilson.org ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:30:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! > > Are you planning to have bugzilla system soon? > > Yes, for some value of soon. Because three of us will be at OLS, it > is most likely that we'll get bugzilla running after OLS rather than > before. ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Sat Jul 17 13:43:13 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6HHhDbI026352 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:43:13 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9907016714 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6HHhHTD014885 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:43:17 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6HHhHvk014883 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:43:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:43:17 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040717174317.GA14741@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717171001.M75775@openwebmail.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040717171001.M75775@openwebmail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:43:13 -0000 On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 10:20:49AM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > See following page for more info: > http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2004/view_bio.php?email=matt@wilson.org OLS has kindly made the (p)reprint available at: http://www.finux.org/Reprints/Reprint-Wilson-OLS2004.pdf (conary-list@lists.specifixinc.com for discussion of conary per se.) From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Jul 19 10:39:30 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JEdTbI005858 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:39:30 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302561622C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JEdaTD029198 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:39:36 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6JEdZuU029196 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:39:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:39:35 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:39:30 -0000 On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:30:19PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > Thanks, both known. The xkb one is an error in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, > and we already have a new pyxf86config that solves it, and the fix > is built into anaconda for the next alpha release. I don't think > we've fixed the sendmail one yet, though it is noted. pyxf86config isn't a program, it's a library. Really the best way to fix your X configuration is to edit it and change the line that says: Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" to: Option "XkbRules" "xorg" pyxf86config wasn't actually the root cause here, rhpl was. A new ISO image with this (and other) bugs fixed should be out sometime today. Cheers, Matt From tchung@openwebmail.org Mon Jul 19 13:01:12 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JH1CbI006417 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:01:12 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JH1ixU003141 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:01:44 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:01:44 -0700 Message-Id: <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040718 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:01:13 -0000 Thanks Matt, That fixed the problem with xkb. :) I hope sendmail issue to be taken care of before a new iso will be pushed. Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Sent: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:39:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:30:19PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > > Thanks, both known. The xkb one is an error in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, > > and we already have a new pyxf86config that solves it, and the fix > > is built into anaconda for the next alpha release. I don't think > > we've fixed the sendmail one yet, though it is noted. > > pyxf86config isn't a program, it's a library. Really the best way to > fix your X configuration is to edit it and change the line that says: > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > to: > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > > pyxf86config wasn't actually the root cause here, rhpl was. A new > ISO image with this (and other) bugs fixed should be out sometime today. > > Cheers, > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Jul 19 13:34:03 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JHY2bI008316 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:34:02 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D0D1664B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JHY9TD002187 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:34:09 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6JHY8cO002179 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:34:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:34:08 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040719173408.GA1808@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:34:03 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:01:44AM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > I hope sendmail issue to be taken care of before a new iso will be pushed. Yes, it appears to have been resolved. From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Jul 19 13:56:09 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JHu9bI008440 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:56:09 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B1C1664B for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JHuFTD002890 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:56:15 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6JHuFkR002888 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:56:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:56:15 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040719175615.GA30298@specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:56:09 -0000 On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:01:44AM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > Thanks Matt, > > That fixed the problem with xkb. :) > > I hope sendmail issue to be taken care of before a new iso will be pushed. I've pushed out changes to the live repository. You should be able to run "conary update sendmail" to get the new version with the configuration files. Cheers, Matt From tchung@openwebmail.org Mon Jul 19 14:38:49 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JIcnbI009216 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:38:49 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JIdMxU010909 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:39:22 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:39:22 -0700 Message-Id: <20040719183809.M12591@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040719175615.GA30298@specifixinc.com> References: <20040716023539.M78372@openwebmail.org> <20040717005238.GA30893@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040717010712.M71333@openwebmail.org> <20040717013019.GA31813@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040719143935.GA28770@specifixinc.com> <20040719165827.M79306@openwebmail.org> <20040719175615.GA30298@specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040719 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:38:50 -0000 Great! I can confirm that sendmail issue has been fixed! [root@tchung-650n root]# conary pkgquery sendmail sendmail 8.12.10-2-1 [root@tchung-650n root]# conary update sendmail [root@tchung-650n root]# conary pkgquery sendmail sendmail 8.12.10-3-1 [root@tchung-650n root]# service sendmail stop Shutting down sendmail: [ OK ] Shutting down sm-client: [ OK ] [root@tchung-650n root]# service sendmail start Starting sendmail: [ OK ] Starting sm-client: [ OK ] [root@tchung-650n root]# Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Sent: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:56:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Hello Specifix! > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:01:44AM -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Thanks Matt, > > > > That fixed the problem with xkb. :) > > > > I hope sendmail issue to be taken care of before a new iso will be pushed. > > I've pushed out changes to the live repository. You should be able > to run "conary update sendmail" to get the new version with the > configuration files. > > Cheers, > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Jul 19 16:48:19 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JKmIbI013219 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:48:18 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160701670A for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6JKmOTD009354 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:48:24 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6JKmOmd009352 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:48:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:48:24 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040719204824.GB30298@specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: New ISO image released X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:48:19 -0000 A new ISO image for Specifix Linux has been released here: ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.2/iso An Xdelta patch is also available. Apply this to the 0.1 ISO image. Install fixes: * FTP, HTTP installs work * NFS installs from ISO images should work (the fix was tested by a 3rd party) * initial X.org-X11 configuration now has correct Xkb rule entry. New packages: * gnome-themes (omitted from 0.1) * gnupg * conary-gui, give conary-repview a try. Updated packages: * conary 0.2 included. * linux-kernel has new e1000 driver and exec-shield disabled by default * httpd's default configuration uses /etc/httpd/conf.d/ * rhpl updated to fix default X keyboard configuration * sendmail now includes configuration files From ken@bizrace.com Wed Jul 21 17:24:57 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com ([66.45.101.41]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6LLOvbI023489 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:24:57 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8B2305F6E6; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:25:05 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:24:58 -0000 Is there any support for specifing a proxy? Thanks, Ken From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Jul 21 17:40:12 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6LLeCbI023538 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:40:12 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1398516704 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6LLeKTD029546 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:40:20 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6LLeKQl029544 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:40:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:40:20 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:40:13 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:25:05PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Is there any support for specifing a proxy? Are you thinking about web proxy support in conary because you are behind a corporate firewall that requires you to use an explicit http proxy to access the web? From ken@biZrace.com Wed Jul 21 19:27:28 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6LNRSbI023647 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:27:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i6LNRaPf005822 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:27:36 -0400 Message-Id: <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.9.2 (1.5.9.2-1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:27:28 -0000 Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks, --Ken On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 17:40 -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:25:05PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > Is there any support for specifing a proxy? > > Are you thinking about web proxy support in conary because you are behind > a corporate firewall that requires you to use an explicit http proxy to > access the web? > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From doushanes1@comcast.net Wed Jul 21 21:03:11 2004 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M13BbI023766 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:03:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.150] (unknown[67.175.3.92](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040722010319014003b51pe>; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:03:19 +0000 From: Dan To: specifix-list Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:03:47 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:03:11 -0000 I am having a problem with the installation cd. When it comes to the boot prompt, i type, "install text", it loads the images then reboots the computer. I read the readme that only the text install works but was wondering if there was a problem with the text mode as well. Thanks. Dan From tchung@openwebmail.org Wed Jul 21 21:29:04 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M1T4bI023830 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:29:04 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M1TgUK026464 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:29:43 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:29:42 -0700 Message-Id: <20040722012603.M30636@fedoranews.org> In-Reply-To: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040721 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:29:05 -0000 Hi Dan, In my case, I just pressed the enter for default (graphical mode) which droped to text mode since graphical mode was not available. Make sure to download 0.2 iso image and check the MD5SUM before installing it. Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Dan To: specifix-list Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:03:47 -0500 Subject: installation woes > I am having a problem with the installation cd. When it comes to the > boot prompt, i type, "install text", it loads the images then reboots > the computer. I read the readme that only the text install works but > was wondering if there was a problem with the text mode as well. Thanks. > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From doushanes1@comcast.net Wed Jul 21 23:47:00 2004 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M3l0bI023930 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:47:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.150] (unknown[67.175.3.92](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004072203471001300qm3dre>; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:47:10 +0000 From: Dan To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040722012603.M30636@fedoranews.org> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722012603.M30636@fedoranews.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090468056.14006.9.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:47:36 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:47:00 -0000 Hi Thomas, I wasn't aware that alpha 0.2 was out. I was trying to install 0.1 . I am downloading 0.2 right now, from your mirror and will see how it goes. Thanks for the quick response. Dan On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 20:29, Thomas Chung wrote: > Hi Dan, > > In my case, I just pressed the enter for default (graphical mode) which droped > to text mode since graphical mode was not available. > > Make sure to download 0.2 iso image and check the MD5SUM before installing it. > > Thomas > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: Dan > To: specifix-list > Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:03:47 -0500 > Subject: installation woes > > > I am having a problem with the installation cd. When it comes to the > > boot prompt, i type, "install text", it loads the images then reboots > > the computer. I read the readme that only the text install works but > > was wondering if there was a problem with the text mode as well. Thanks. > > > > Dan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-list mailing list > > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From tgerla@specifixinc.com Wed Jul 21 23:57:18 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M3vIbI023970 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:57:18 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AC516713 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6M3vRTD002876 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:57:27 -0400 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6M3vRiQ002874 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:57:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:57:27 -0400 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:57:18 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:03:47PM -0500, Dan wrote: > I am having a problem with the installation cd. When it comes to the > boot prompt, i type, "install text", it loads the images then reboots > the computer. I read the readme that only the text install works but was > wondering if there was a problem with the text mode as well. > Thanks. > > Dan > Hi Dan, I don't have a direct answer to your problem, but why don't you post some of your system specifications? Network card, video, etc. That might help us narrow down the problem. -Tim From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Jul 22 09:02:34 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MD2XbI024700 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:02:34 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DE21664B for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MD2hTD010767 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:02:43 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6MD2hRk010765 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:02:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:02:43 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040722130243.GA10687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:02:34 -0000 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:27:36PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. Unless the python libraries we are using (urllib and urllib2) have built-in support for proxies, I don't think it's there. From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Thu Jul 22 09:12:13 2004 Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MDCDbI024723 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:12:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.122.103] (unknown [216.208.38.106]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D78A77F1 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: seth vidal To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040722130243.GA10687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> <20040722130243.GA10687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:11:20 -0400 Message-Id: <1090501880.2472.5.camel@binkley> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.8 (1.5.8-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:12:13 -0000 On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 09:02 -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:27:36PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for. > > Unless the python libraries we are using (urllib and urllib2) have > built-in support for proxies, I don't think it's there. urllib and urllib2 do have builtin support for proxies. however, y'all should look at urlgrabber: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/ it makes certain aspects of dealing with where a repository is much easier. -sv From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Jul 22 09:27:30 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MDRUbI024748 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:27:30 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4517F16716 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MDReTD011377 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:27:40 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6MDRdMF011375 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:27:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:27:39 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040722132739.GA11138@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> <20040722130243.GA10687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090501880.2472.5.camel@binkley> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090501880.2472.5.camel@binkley> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:27:30 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:11:20AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > urllib and urllib2 do have builtin support for proxies. Ah, if I'd RFTM before responding: http_proxy="http://www.someproxy.com:3128" conary ... Or just export http_proxy="http://www.someproxy.com:3128" in your .bashrc. > however, y'all should look at urlgrabber: > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/ > > it makes certain aspects of dealing with where a repository is much > easier. On the list of things to think about. From ken@bizrace.com Thu Jul 22 10:39:29 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com ([66.45.101.41]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MEdTbI027247 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:39:29 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id EE9975F5A9; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:39:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1090507177.40ffd1a9b013f@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:39:37 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion , "Michael K. Johnson" References: <1090445105.40fedf3148738@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040721214020.GA29488@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090452456.2947.0.camel@fc3> <20040722130243.GA10687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090501880.2472.5.camel@binkley> <20040722132739.GA11138@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040722132739.GA11138@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Cc: Subject: Re: proxy support for conary update? X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:39:29 -0000 I have tried that. I am getting this error: OpenError: Error occured opening repository http://conary.specifixinc.com/conary /: Connection refused lynx does work thru the proxy, so I am confident the variable is set right. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:11:20AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > urllib and urllib2 do have builtin support for proxies. > > Ah, if I'd RFTM before responding: > > http_proxy="http://www.someproxy.com:3128" conary ... > Or just > export http_proxy="http://www.someproxy.com:3128" > in your .bashrc. > > > however, y'all should look at urlgrabber: > > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/ > > > > it makes certain aspects of dealing with where a repository is much > > easier. > > On the list of things to think about. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From doushanes1@comcast.net Thu Jul 22 16:22:04 2004 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6MKM4bI027553 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:22:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.150] (unknown[67.175.3.92](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004072220221401300qkkome>; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:22:14 +0000 From: Dan To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:23:19 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:22:04 -0000 Tim, This computer is an old compaq deskpro with like a 300mhz processor, 96megs of ram an a built in video card. I tried the installation disc in a newer computer and it works. I figured that there could be something wrong with the media cause I am able to install other linux Distros on the compaq. Looks like Ill have to find a newer slug to play with specifix and conary. Thanks. Dan On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 22:57, Tim Gerla wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 08:03:47PM -0500, Dan wrote: > > I am having a problem with the installation cd. When it comes to the > > boot prompt, i type, "install text", it loads the images then reboots > > the computer. I read the readme that only the text install works but was > > wondering if there was a problem with the text mode as well. > > Thanks. > > > > Dan > > > Hi Dan, > > I don't have a direct answer to your problem, but why don't you post some > of your system specifications? Network card, video, etc. That might help > us narrow down the problem. > > -Tim > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Jul 23 17:26:41 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6NLQebI032619 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:26:41 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1654A16707 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6NLQpTD010270 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:26:51 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6NLQpXS010268 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:26:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:26:51 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:26:41 -0000 On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Dan wrote: > Tim, > This computer is an old compaq deskpro with like a 300mhz processor, > 96megs of ram an a built in video card. I tried the installation disc in > a newer computer and it works. I figured that there could be something > wrong with the media cause I am able to install other linux Distros on > the compaq. Looks like Ill have to find a newer slug to play with > specifix and conary. Thanks. Our kernel is currently built for i686-compatible processors only. What kind of processor is in the Compaq? Cheers, Matt From doushanes1@comcast.net Fri Jul 23 20:24:00 2004 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O0O0bI032755 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:24:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.150] (unknown[67.175.3.92](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004072400241201500ioa6ce>; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:24:12 +0000 From: Dan To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090628721.2579.6.camel@jaga> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:25:22 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:24:00 -0000 Its a pentium 133mhz. I got it for free and didn't even think to see what speed it was. I am waiting to get another test computer with a little more speed and ram. I am definately going to try your distro and can't wait to play with conary. Sounds really interesting. Thanks for all your help. I am sure I will be posting again soon. Dan On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 16:26, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Dan wrote: > > Tim, > > This computer is an old compaq deskpro with like a 300mhz processor, > > 96megs of ram an a built in video card. I tried the installation disc in > > a newer computer and it works. I figured that there could be something > > wrong with the media cause I am able to install other linux Distros on > > the compaq. Looks like Ill have to find a newer slug to play with > > specifix and conary. Thanks. > > Our kernel is currently built for i686-compatible processors only. > What kind of processor is in the Compaq? > > Cheers, > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From ken@biZrace.com Fri Jul 23 20:31:02 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O0V2bI000308 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i6O0VCNr028218 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <1090628721.2579.6.camel@jaga> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> <1090628721.2579.6.camel@jaga> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:31:09 -0400 Message-Id: <1090629069.5614.3.camel@fc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.9.2 (1.5.9.2-1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:31:02 -0000 I just tried installing on a Compaq M700 laptop with no luck. When it is booting the kernel, before anaconda starts, it crashes. Is this a laptop issue? Has anyone installed it on a laptop? Shouldn't be a processor problem, it is a P3 850. Fedora, Mandrake and Gentoo all run perfectly on this laptop. Any ideas? Thanks, --Ken On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 19:25 -0500, Dan wrote: > Its a pentium 133mhz. I got it for free and didn't even think to see > what speed it was. I am waiting to get another test computer with a > little more speed and ram. I am definately going to try your distro and > can't wait to play with conary. Sounds really interesting. > > > > Thanks for all your help. I am sure I will be posting again soon. > > Dan > > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 16:26, Matt Wilson wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Dan wrote: > > > Tim, > > > This computer is an old compaq deskpro with like a 300mhz processor, > > > 96megs of ram an a built in video card. I tried the installation disc in > > > a newer computer and it works. I figured that there could be something > > > wrong with the media cause I am able to install other linux Distros on > > > the compaq. Looks like Ill have to find a newer slug to play with > > > specifix and conary. Thanks. > > > > Our kernel is currently built for i686-compatible processors only. > > What kind of processor is in the Compaq? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-list mailing list > > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Jul 23 21:16:19 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O1GJbI000345 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:16:19 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFCF16707 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O1GUTD014168 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:16:30 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6O1GUsl014166 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:16:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:16:30 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040724011630.GA14130@specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> <1090628721.2579.6.camel@jaga> <1090629069.5614.3.camel@fc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1090629069.5614.3.camel@fc3> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:16:20 -0000 On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:31:09PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > I just tried installing on a Compaq M700 laptop with no luck. When it > is booting the kernel, before anaconda starts, it crashes. Is this a > laptop issue? Has anyone installed it on a laptop? Shouldn't be a > processor problem, it is a P3 850. Fedora, Mandrake and Gentoo all run > perfectly on this laptop. We've installed on a few Dell laptops and Thinkpads. We currently don't have pcmcia support. Can you describe the crash? Thanks, Matt From tchung@openwebmail.org Fri Jul 23 21:38:58 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O1cwbI000372 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:38:58 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6O1dgto003971 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:39:42 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:39:42 -0700 Message-Id: <20040724013629.M9775@fedoranews.org> In-Reply-To: <20040724011630.GA14130@specifixinc.com> References: <1090458226.14006.4.camel@jaga> <20040722035727.GA1918@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1090527799.2574.3.camel@jaga> <20040723212651.GA10222@specifixinc.com> <1090628721.2579.6.camel@jaga> <1090629069.5614.3.camel@fc3> <20040724011630.GA14130@specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040724 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: installation woes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:38:58 -0000 I've just installed 0.2 on Compaq Evo N610c (Pentium 4m 2Ghz 512Mb) successfully too :) Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Sent: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:16:30 -0400 Subject: Re: installation woes > On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:31:09PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > I just tried installing on a Compaq M700 laptop with no luck. When it > > is booting the kernel, before anaconda starts, it crashes. Is this a > > laptop issue? Has anyone installed it on a laptop? Shouldn't be a > > processor problem, it is a P3 850. Fedora, Mandrake and Gentoo all run > > perfectly on this laptop. > > We've installed on a few Dell laptops and Thinkpads. We currently > don't have pcmcia support. Can you describe the crash? > > Thanks, > > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From ken@biZrace.com Sat Jul 31 22:28:05 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i712S5bI026463 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:28:05 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i712SKNr011062 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:28:09 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Bug report X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 02:28:06 -0000 Since there is no mechanism in place yet for tracking bugs I thought I would at least start a thread so there is a list to start from. I know the busy guys over at specifix have plans for bugzilla like service, so this is temporary. My suggestion would be to reply to this message for submitting new bugs and appending a brief subject of the bug, like this "Re: Bug report - [some bug i found]" in the subject field. How ever, if you want to reply about a specific bug already reported then reply to that message. This will keep the threads organized. Happy bug hunting! --Ken From ken@biZrace.com Sat Jul 31 22:35:52 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i712ZpbI026480 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:35:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i712aBPf020553 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:36:01 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> In-Reply-To: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Bug report - [Volume Control] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 02:35:52 -0000 Seems the volume applet in gnome, as well as alsa mixer seem to have issues. I would thing the are related and not necessarily a gnome problem. In gnome, the error I get when opening volume control from the applet is "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found". When running alsamixer I get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory". The mixer device exists, and sound seems to be working. I just can't control the volume. Specifix version: 0.2 Gnome Volume Control: 2.6.1 Alsa-utils: 1.0.5-1-1 Alsa-lib: 1.0.5-1-1 Thanks, --Ken From ken@biZrace.com Sat Jul 31 22:53:20 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i712rKbI026516 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:53:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i712reVv015976 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <410C5B2A.9080603@biZrace.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:53:30 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Building kernel modules X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 02:53:20 -0000 Has anyone had any luck building kernel modules for the stock kernel that comes with 0.2? I have grabbed the source via conary and dropped it in the right place. Copied the config file in to is and did a make dep. All looked good. I was able to build the pcmcia stuff with no problems. But, I can't build the ndiswrapper stuff of madwifi. The both give me problems with version mismatches. If I change the version info in the kernel Makefile fails. It almost looks like the source is 2.4.23, but is labeled with 2.4.22-ac1. I am very close to just ditching it and dropping in a vanilla kernel. Has anyone else seen these issues? Anyone have any suggestions? I am dieing without wireless on my main laptop. Thanks, --Ken From tgerla@specifixinc.com Sun Aug 1 14:35:22 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i71IZMbI030893 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:35:22 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD2316737 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 11:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i71IZeTD009031 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:35:40 -0400 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i71IZeK4009029 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:35:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:35:39 -0400 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040801183539.GA9007@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Volume Control] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:35:22 -0000 On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:36:01PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Seems the volume applet in gnome, as well as alsa mixer seem to have > issues. I would thing the are related and not necessarily a gnome > problem. > > In gnome, the error I get when opening volume control from the applet is > "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found". > > When running alsamixer I get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed > for default: No such file or directory". > > The mixer device exists, and sound seems to be working. I just can't > control the volume. > > Specifix version: 0.2 > Gnome Volume Control: 2.6.1 > Alsa-utils: 1.0.5-1-1 > Alsa-lib: 1.0.5-1-1 > Check the permissions on the /dev/mixer file--I think I had to enable write access by my user. -Tim From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 2 09:27:16 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i72DRFbI032339 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:27:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A3162A1 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i72DRbTD026963 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:27:37 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i72DRbnp026961 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:27:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:27:37 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040802132737.GA26913@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> <20040801183539.GA9007@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040801183539.GA9007@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Volume Control] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:27:16 -0000 On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 02:35:39PM -0400, Tim Gerla wrote: > Check the permissions on the /dev/mixer file--I think I had to > enable write access by my user. That would be a pam config bug -- /etc/security/console.perms lists /dev/mixer* as files that the console user should have access to. How did you log in? From ken@bizrace.com Mon Aug 2 18:03:13 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com ([66.45.101.41]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i72M3CbI000546 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:03:13 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 032375F578; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rrcs-central-24-123-26-202.biz.rr.com ( [rrcs-central-24-123-26-202.biz.rr.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:03:33 -0400 Message-ID: <1091484213.410eba35c5a0d@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:03:33 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> <20040801183539.GA9007@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040802132737.GA26913@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040802132737.GA26913@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.123.26.202 Subject: Re: Bug report - [Volume Control] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:03:13 -0000 With gdm as me. My user owns /dev/mixer* and has write access. I have tried this on another box and it works. So, I am thinking it may have something todo with hardware. I had installed it on 2 Compaq M700s and saw the same problem on both (both of which have had gentoo,fc1 and fc2 on them). Today, I installed on a Compaq N610c and it all works fine. I will try to debug in a couple of days. Thanks, --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 02:35:39PM -0400, Tim Gerla wrote: > > Check the permissions on the /dev/mixer file--I think I had to > > enable write access by my user. > > That would be a pam config bug -- /etc/security/console.perms lists > /dev/mixer* as files that the console user should have access to. > How did you log in? > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 2 20:12:08 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i730C8bI000651 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:12:08 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA2716735 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i730CUTD009451 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:12:30 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i730CU6i009449 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:12:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:12:30 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040803001230.GA9405@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <410C5711.1070407@biZrace.com> <20040801183539.GA9007@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040802132737.GA26913@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1091484213.410eba35c5a0d@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1091484213.410eba35c5a0d@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Volume Control] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:12:09 -0000 On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 06:03:33PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > With gdm as me. My user owns /dev/mixer* and has write access. I have tried > this on another box and it works. So, I am thinking it may have something todo > with hardware. I had installed it on 2 Compaq M700s and saw the same problem on > both (both of which have had gentoo,fc1 and fc2 on them). Today, I installed on > a Compaq N610c and it all works fine. I will try to debug in a couple of days. OK. Tim recollected that his /dev/mixer* permissions were correct after all but didn't remember what he had to do on his system; we saw the same thing of it just working on other hardware. Probably some other configuration issue... From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 3 13:03:41 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73H3fbI005689 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:03:41 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7358016717 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73H44TD032647 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:04:04 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i73H44Wf032645 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:04:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:04:04 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:03:41 -0000 The repository has been updated. New packages include: evolution evolution-data-server gal galeon gimp inkscape iptables libsigc++ openoffice.org rhythmbox units New upstream versions include: gaim gtkhtml libsoup python Substantive package changes include: rhpl, pyxf86config, libuser: use new python conary: many changes cvs: packaging bugs fixed esound: packaging bugs fixed gcc: packaging bugs fixed glibc: packaging bugs fixed krb5: packaging bugs fixed mailman: mm_cfg.py marked as a configuration file mozilla: packaging bugs fixed sendmail: packaging bugs fixed xorg: packaging bugs fixed Packages that now have installable test components (expect some failures): apr at autoconf automake bash bison coreutils cproto curl dejagnu e2fsprogs ed enscript flex gcc GConf gdb After you have updated everything, you can "conary erase conary-python" because the system python is sufficient. In fact, you will need to do that before you can use conary-gui. This list of changes was generated entirely by hand and is probably missing a few things. This is likely to change in the near future. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 3 13:24:39 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73HOdbI005744 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:24:39 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C89D16717 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73HP3TD001262 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:25:03 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i73HP2n2001260 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:25:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:25:02 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040803172502.GA721@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:24:40 -0000 On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > New packages include: > evolution evolution-data-server gal galeon gimp inkscape iptables > libsigc++ openoffice.org rhythmbox units Sorry, inkscape, units, and libsigc++ have :source components but have not yet been cooked, so only source is available right now for those. That should change shortly. Also, the new tests are only in :source components, those recipes have not been cooked since the tests were added. So you can see how they look in the :source components, but you can't run them yet without cooking them yourself. From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Aug 3 18:33:22 2004 Received: from mail.network-electronics.com (mail.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.55]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73MXMbI006169 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:33:22 -0400 Received: from in.fer.no (photon.network-electronics.com [10.10.10.150]) by mail.network-electronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879F526409C for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 00:33:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <411012C5.6090305@in.fer.no> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:33:41 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:33:22 -0000 I found a few glitches: Michael K. Johnson wrote: > The repository has been updated. > > conary: many changes #conary update conary error: file contents conflict for //usr/share/conary/changelog.pyc error: file contents conflict for //usr/share/conary/magic.pyc error: file contents conflict for //usr/share/conary/conarycfg.pyc solved with "conary --replace-files update conary" Isn't the *.pyc files created automatically by python? These files don't need to be updated by conary, they believe they will be recompiled when conary is started next time ... > gcc: packaging bugs fixed # conary update gcc error: /usr/lib/libiberty.a has changed but has been removed on head Huh? What is this? > krb5: packaging bugs fixed # conary update krb5 error: //usr/share/man/man1/kerberos.1.gz is in the way of a newly created file error: //usr/kerberos/sbin/kshd is in the way of a newly created file error: //usr/kerberos/bin/krb524init is in the way of a newly created file error: //usr/share/man/man1/rsh.1.gz is in the way of a newly created file .. many more .. Fix: conary --replace-files update krb5 > xorg: packaging bugs fixed conary update xorg-x11 error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/encodings.dir is missing (use remove if this is intentional) Huh? Back to the gcc problem. Hmm, lets just remove gcc and reinstall it again. # conary erase gcc # conary python2.3: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Bad idea. Very bad idea. Python needs libstdc and libgcc_s. Thanks to Tybstar for sending me a copy of his libraries, so I could get my conary running again. Is it a good idea to keep a statically linked version of python somewhere for cases like this ? Best regards Geir Thomassen From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 3 18:48:57 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73MmvbI006191 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:48:57 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC301675D for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i73MnLTD014426 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:49:21 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i73MnLaO014424 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:49:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:49:21 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040803224921.GA14233@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <411012C5.6090305@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <411012C5.6090305@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:48:58 -0000 On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:33:41AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Isn't the *.pyc files created automatically by python? These files don't > need to be updated by conary, they believe they will be recompiled when > conary is started next time ... Only if the user calling the program has sufficient permissions! The new conary has a concept of "transient files" that applies to things like .pyc and .pyo files. It will phase in as we rebuild packages that contain .pyc and .pyo files. > > krb5: packaging bugs fixed > # conary update krb5 ... Yes, the packaging bugs fixed involve getting rid of file conflicts. In general, a bunch of --replace-files will be required for these. > Bad idea. Very bad idea. Python needs libstdc and libgcc_s. Thanks to > Tybstar for sending me a copy of his libraries, so I could get my conary > running again. Is it a good idea to keep a statically linked version of > python somewhere for cases like this ? We could perhaps split those libraries out into a separate package, not just a separate component of the gcc package, as Matt mentioned on IRC. From msw@specifixinc.com Wed Aug 4 15:25:39 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i74JPcbI008030 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:25:38 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CC016744 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i74JQ3TD011483 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:26:03 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i74JQ2bb011481 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:26:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:26:02 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040804192602.GB31341@specifixinc.com> References: <20040803170404.GA31111@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <411012C5.6090305@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <411012C5.6090305@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:25:39 -0000 On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:33:41AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > > gcc: packaging bugs fixed > # conary update gcc > error: /usr/lib/libiberty.a has changed but has been removed on head > > Huh? What is this? This is a bug in conary. Here's what happened: both gcc and binutils owned /usr/lib/libiberty.a, and they contents were not the same. In the Conary system, you can't have two components owning the same file. The installer just installed each changeset file with --replace-files, so you ended up with the gcc package's libiberty.a getting replaced with the binutil's copy. Even so, Conary shouldn't be causing an error in this case, it should save a copy of /usr/lib/libiberty.a in the rollback and remove the file. A new version of conary (probably 0.6.2) will have the correct behavior. > > xorg: packaging bugs fixed > > conary update xorg-x11 > error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/encodings.dir is missing (use > remove if this is intentional) > > Huh? xorg-x11 shouldn't package those files, and conary needs to handle this more gracefully. We'll need to discuss the correct behavior in this case. > Back to the gcc problem. Hmm, lets just remove gcc and reinstall it again. > > # conary erase gcc > # conary > python2.3: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot > open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > Bad idea. Very bad idea. Python needs libstdc and libgcc_s. Thanks to > Tybstar for sending me a copy of his libraries, so I could get my conary > running again. Is it a good idea to keep a statically linked version of > python somewhere for cases like this ? Hopefully dependencies should keep you from breaking your system in this way. We'll have a binary version of Conary at some point in the future. Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Aug 4 21:59:02 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i751x2bI008355 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:59:02 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A6216759 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i751xQTD021057 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:59:26 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i751xQiU021055 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:59:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:59:26 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040805015926.GA20764@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: libdir X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:59:02 -0000 Should Qt libraries be in %(libdir)/qt-%(majver)s/lib/ or in /usr/lib/qt-%(majver)s/%(lib)/ ? The former makes it easier to build multilib Qt, the latter makes the packaging more of a pain (for all I know, practically impossible, I haven't checked) but could make for the smallest installed multilib Qt with some packaging work. Thoughts? From msw@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 5 01:05:06 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i75555bI008492 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:05:06 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61416759 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7555STD024231 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:05:28 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7555ST4024229 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:05:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:05:28 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040805050528.GA18853@specifixinc.com> References: <20040805015926.GA20764@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040805015926.GA20764@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: libdir X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 05:05:06 -0000 On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:59:26PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Should Qt libraries be in > %(libdir)/qt-%(majver)s/lib/ > or in > /usr/lib/qt-%(majver)s/%(lib)/ > ? > > The former makes it easier to build multilib Qt, the latter > makes the packaging more of a pain (for all I know, practically > impossible, I haven't checked) but could make for the smallest > installed multilib Qt with some packaging work. Thoughts? Other distros use the former. Cheers, Matt From ken@biZrace.com Fri Aug 6 20:33:10 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i770X9bI017265 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:33:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i770XaSG029496 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4114233B.2060401@biZrace.com> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:32:59 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> In-Reply-To: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Bug report [cron.d directory missing] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:33:10 -0000 Here is another bug I had found and forgot to report. /etc/cron.d didn't exist in 0.2 which cause crond to fail on startup. Fix is to just create the directory. Maybe it is already on the list to get in 0.3. Thanks, --Ken From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 6 20:46:07 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i770k7bI017382 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:46:07 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7D31675B for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i770kYTD022438 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:46:34 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i770kXSj022436 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:46:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:46:33 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040807004633.GA22420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4114233B.2060401@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4114233B.2060401@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report [cron.d directory missing] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:46:07 -0000 On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 08:32:59PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Here is another bug I had found and forgot to report. /etc/cron.d > didn't exist in 0.2 which cause crond to fail on startup. Fix is to > just create the directory. Maybe it is already on the list to get in 0.3. Nope, not noted, not fixed in 0.3, but I just fixed it for 0.4 thanks From ken@biZrace.com Sat Aug 7 00:48:47 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i774mlbI017578 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 00:48:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i774nESG006617 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 00:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41145F26.5060102@biZrace.com> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:48:38 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: sysvinit request X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 04:48:47 -0000 Hello guys, I have been playing around with the rhgb (Graphical Boot) and have it mostly working. I am pretty sure the only problem remaining is because of the version of sysvinit in the repository. Is there someone that can upgrage it to 2.85-5 version from the fedora/rawhide src.rpms? It would be appreciated. Thanks, From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Sat Aug 7 08:19:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i77CJXbI019326 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:19:33 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CBD162A1 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 05:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i77CK1TD001396 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:20:01 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i77CK11W001394 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:20:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:20:01 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040807122000.GA1125@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <41145F26.5060102@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41145F26.5060102@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: sysvinit request X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 12:19:34 -0000 On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:48:38AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > I have been playing around with the rhgb (Graphical Boot) and have it > mostly working. I am pretty sure the only problem remaining is because > of the version of sysvinit in the repository. Is there someone that can > upgrage it to 2.85-5 version from the fedora/rawhide src.rpms? Well, we're at 2.85 now. We can update, not sure about 2.85-5 equivalent, probably later than that, but should have what you need. From ken@biZrace.com Sat Aug 7 09:05:21 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i77D5LbI019371 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:05:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i77D5mNr028456 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4114D386.2060008@biZrace.com> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:05:10 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <41145F26.5060102@biZrace.com> <20040807122000.GA1125@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040807122000.GA1125@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: sysvinit request X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 13:05:21 -0000 Yeah, thanks. Looking at the changlog for the 2.85-5 rpm includes changes I think I need. So, anything later should be good. Thanks, --Ken Michael K. Johnson wrote: >On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:48:38AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > >>I have been playing around with the rhgb (Graphical Boot) and have it >>mostly working. I am pretty sure the only problem remaining is because >>of the version of sysvinit in the repository. Is there someone that can >>upgrage it to 2.85-5 version from the fedora/rawhide src.rpms? >> >> > >Well, we're at 2.85 now. We can update, not sure about 2.85-5 equivalent, >probably later than that, but should have what you need. >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > From ken@biZrace.com Sun Aug 8 14:04:48 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i78I4mbI024291 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:04:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i78I56iA026198 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41166B2B.6060301@biZrace.com> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:04:27 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> In-Reply-To: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Bug report - [aclocal & automake] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:04:48 -0000 Not sure if this is technically a bug. But, I think there should be links for /usr/bin/aclocal and /usr/bin/automake to aclocal-1.6 and automake-1.6. Thanks, --Ken From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 14:46:16 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79IkGbI030296 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:46:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D916745 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79IkkTD005820 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:46:46 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79IkkkH005818 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:46:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:46:46 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated; manual conary update required X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:46:16 -0000 We have pushed new content to the repository. We also have new code running on the repository. Due to bug fixes and other changes that need both changeset format and protocol changes, updating is a little more complex than usual. Here's the process you need to follow: As root: # cd /tmp # wget ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/conary/conary-0.6.5.tar.bz2 # tar xjf conary-0.6.5.tar.bz2 # (cd conary-0.6.5 && make) # conary-0.6.5/conary update conary Now you will have the latest conary on your system, and you can get other updates from the repository. Warning: you will have to do this again later, as we're making even more protocol/format changes. Though it may not seem obvious, we're trying to do this in a way that doesn't cause too much pain; we hope that we'll only have one database format change, and we expect to be able to preserve the contents of the database via a migration. (Two changes that will be included: moving to sqlite 3 and using binary blobs instead of text strings for the sha1 fileids.) Changes in the repository include: New packages: libcap, units, vsftpd New versions: booty, conary, docbook-xsl, gcc, glib (1.2.10 as well as 2.4.1), inn, libpng (security!), linux-kernel-headers, mktemp, pygtk (development version on branch conary.specifixinc.com@spx:pygtk22), python, quota, rhpl, setup Tests added: apr, autoconf, automake, bash, ed, krb5 New versions of source packages available: gaim, gstreamer, gtk-engines, kernel (2.6), linux-kernel (2.4), qt-x11-free, sqlite (2.8.15, not version 3 yet), vixie-cron From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 14:57:02 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79Iv1bI030336 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:57:01 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BBC16745 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79IvVTD006607 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:57:31 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79IvVrb006605 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:57:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:57:31 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040809185731.GA6559@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:57:02 -0000 Once you have updated to the new Conary as describe at http://lists.specifixinc.com/pipermail/distro-list/2004-August/000050.html you will be able to access the contrib repository again... New packages: rhgb (will not work until we update initscripts, though), system-config-network New sources: gqview, gv, system-config-printer, xpdf From tgerla@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 15:00:05 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79J05bI030351 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:00:05 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D52E162A1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79J0ZTD006783 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:00:35 -0400 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79J0ZKt006781 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:00:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:00:35 -0400 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040809190035.GB24515@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated; manual conary update required X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:00:05 -0000 > > New versions: > booty, conary, docbook-xsl, gcc, glib (1.2.10 as well as 2.4.1), > inn, libpng (security!), linux-kernel-headers, mktemp, pygtk > (development version on branch conary.specifixinc.com@spx:pygtk22), > python, quota, rhpl, setup > The development version of pygtk (version 2.3.96, soon to be a stable 2.4) is actually on the trunk. The stable (2.2) version is on branch 'pygtk22'. -Tim From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 15:09:22 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79J9MbI030384 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:09:22 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7698B162A1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79J9qTD007188 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:09:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79J9qG9007186 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:09:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:09:52 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040809190952.GA7043@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040809184646.GA5799@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated; manual conary update required X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:09:22 -0000 On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:46:46PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > # (cd conary-0.6.5 && make) or, more simply, "make -C conary-0.6.5" If you are running the 0.1 distribution and have not yet followed the instructions on updating at http://lists.specifixinc.com/pipermail/distro-list/2004-August/000037.html then you will need to also run # ln -s /usr/lib/conary/bin/python2.3 /usr/bin so that conary can find its python. > # conary-0.6.5/conary update conary The reason for this, instead of "cd conary-0.6.5; ./conary update conary" is that conary will see the file "conary" in the current directory and assume that it is a changeset that it should apply, and will then complain. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 15:27:46 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79JRjbI030442 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:27:46 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B081162A1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79JSGTD007801 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:28:16 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79JSG90007799 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:28:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:28:16 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040809192816.GA7619@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <41166B2B.6060301@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41166B2B.6060301@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [aclocal & automake] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:27:46 -0000 On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:04:27PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Not sure if this is technically a bug. But, I think there should be > links for /usr/bin/aclocal and /usr/bin/automake to aclocal-1.6 and > automake-1.6. Makes sense, they should be links to the system default versions. Will be fixed in an update. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 15:41:53 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79JfqbI030514 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:41:53 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7AF162A1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79JgNTD008224 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:42:23 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79JgMnb008222 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:42:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:42:22 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040809194222.GB7619@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <41145F26.5060102@biZrace.com> <20040807122000.GA1125@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4114D386.2060008@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4114D386.2060008@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: sysvinit request X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:41:53 -0000 On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:05:10AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Yeah, thanks. Looking at the changlog for the 2.85-5 rpm includes > changes I think I need. So, anything later should be good. OK. We need a later version for supporting both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels anyway, so that's easy enough. We'll update to the -25 level. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 19:51:08 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79Np8bI031080 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:51:08 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B279416212 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 16:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i79NpcTD017227 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:51:38 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i79NpcT1017225 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:51:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:51:38 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040809235138.GA17142@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: New ISO image available: 0.3 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:51:08 -0000 We finally got the 0.3 image out onto the FTP server, as several of you noticed already -- I see plenty of downloads happening. It is similar to the repository we just pushed; it talks the same protocols. It's a few days older, being from Friday instead of Monday, but the changes are not large. You do not need to update conary "by hand" if you install the 0.3 ISO; you can just update individual components. ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.3/specifix-linux-0.3.iso ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.3/MD5SUM We have moved the old releases into an archive/ subdirectory so that people quit fetching them by accident. We will probably continue to do this. Warning: the 0.4 ISO, when it comes out, will *again* have an incompatible conary, and we will again be updating the repository, and we will *again* be giving instructions for updating by hand. And it could happen again after that, especially as long as we are in alpha testing. New: evolution, evolution-data-server, gal, galeon, gimp, gtkhtml, libcap (enabling vsftpd), mailx, rhythmbox, units, vsftpd Updated: a2ps, authconfig, booty, conary, conary-gui, cvs, docbook-xsl, ed, esound, gaim, gcc, gnome-python, inn, krb5, kudzu, libpng (security), libsoup, libuser, libxml2, libxslt, linux-kernel-headers (enabling libcap), mktemp, mod_python, mozilla, newt, parted, pygtk, pyorbit, python, pyxf86config, quota, rhpl, sendmail, setup, vte, xorg-x11 Removed: conary-python, dvdrtools (cdrtools has all we need) Enjoy! From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 9 23:23:28 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7A3NRbI002737 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:23:27 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691581675B for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7A3NwTD022625 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:23:58 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7A3Nwxo022623 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:23:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:23:58 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040810032358.GA22598@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Berkeley db build problem, heads-up X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 03:23:28 -0000 Our db was built with posix mutexes in the hope that it would gracefully fall back when nptl wasn't available. No such luck. I've changed the recipe not to do that, and we'll have to re-build db. Ken: this is what was causing your problem with straw last night. When we get a new db, straw should be happier. From ken@biZrace.com Tue Aug 10 07:13:01 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7ABD0bI003536 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:13:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i7ABDVNr012156 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4118ADAD.7000609@biZrace.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:12:45 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: db4 posix enabled with non-NPTL kernels X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:13:01 -0000 The current version of db4 is being compiled with --enable-posixmutexes which seems to not play well with non-NPTL kernels. Please refer to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=91933#c0 This is causing problems getting straw to work. I am not sure what else it might affect. What do you guys think? Do you think --disable-posixmutexes would be ok? Thanks, --Ken From ken@biZrace.com Tue Aug 10 07:20:16 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7ABKGbI003554 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:20:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i7ABKkPf013384 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4118AF60.5030806@biZrace.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:20:00 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040810032358.GA22598@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040810032358.GA22598@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Berkeley db build problem, heads-up X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:20:16 -0000 Sorry, I should have checked my email before posting... and actually before spending my time looking at bugzilla :-) I see you are on it. Thanks, --Ken Michael K. Johnson wrote: >Our db was built with posix mutexes in the hope that it would gracefully >fall back when nptl wasn't available. No such luck. I've changed the >recipe not to do that, and we'll have to re-build db. > >Ken: this is what was causing your problem with straw last night. When >we get a new db, straw should be happier. >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 10 10:20:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7AEKwbI003740 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:20:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C87A1654A for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7AELTTD002067 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:21:29 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7AELTf4002065 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:21:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:21:29 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040810142129.GA1829@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:20:58 -0000 New versions: conary, sysvinit New tests: at, binutils, curl New sources: automake, db, kernel New groups: group-gnome We'll probably do another update later today. From tchung@openwebmail.org Tue Aug 10 21:04:28 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7B14SbI004933 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:04:28 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7B15uea011325 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:05:56 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:05:56 -0700 Message-Id: <20040811010328.M49053@fedoranews.org> In-Reply-To: <20040809235138.GA17142@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040809235138.GA17142@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.32 20040809 X-OriginatingIP: 24.31.56.126 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: New ISO image available: 0.3 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:04:28 -0000 0.3 iso image is also available at our mirror site too! http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.3/ Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Sent: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:51:38 -0400 Subject: New ISO image available: 0.3 > We finally got the 0.3 image out onto the FTP server, as several of > you noticed already -- I see plenty of downloads happening. It is > similar to the repository we just pushed; it talks the same protocols. > It's a few days older, being from Friday instead of Monday, but the > changes are not large. You do not need to update conary "by hand" > if you install the 0.3 ISO; you can just update individual components. > > ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.3/specifix-linux-0.3.iso > ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.3/MD5SUM > ... ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Aug 11 11:05:13 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7BF5DbI011333 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:05:13 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8B316736 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7BF5jTD020898 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:05:45 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7BF5jLj020896 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:05:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:05:45 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040811150545.GA20704@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:05:14 -0000 New versions: kernel, sqlite (do NOT update sqlite yet!) New sources: db, firefox, hotplug, linux-kernel, lockdev, mkinitrd, thunderbird, udev Warning: hal:source cannot be fetched. This will be fixed at the next repository update; it's a minor problem. As part of the work of moving conary over to use sqlite 3, the repository has an sqlite 3 package in it. However, if you update to it, conary will no longer function, including to revert. Please do not update to the new sqlite! From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Aug 11 16:53:12 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7BKrBbI011999 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:53:12 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E9C16264 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7BKriTD002530 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:53:44 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7BKriT8002528 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:53:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:53:44 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040811205344.GA932@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:53:12 -0000 New versions: libpng (revert to 1.2.5, but with all security patches), linux-kernel (security update for CAN-2004-0415) New binaries: qt-x11-free (finally able to build, after downgrading libpng) New sources: hal Repeat from last time: As part of the work of moving conary over to use sqlite 3, the repository has an sqlite 3 package in it. However, if you update to it, conary will no longer function, even to revert. Please do not update to the new sqlite! I'd like to note that going from 1.2.6-rc1 to 1.2.5 for libpng did not require epoch, thanks to proper version history in the repository. From elliot@bentlogic.net Wed Aug 11 22:55:14 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.dulug.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7C2tEbI016163 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:55:14 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.202] (rdu57-78-175.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.175]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600FF2C168 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:52:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-pMU6vbOttZAYLO19T/YS" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:54:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1092279259.1647.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.91 Subject: swig fixes to make subversion build X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:55:14 -0000 --=-pMU6vbOttZAYLO19T/YS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heres a patch to the swig recipe so that it installs libswigpy. Also the subversion package will build now. Elliot --=-pMU6vbOttZAYLO19T/YS Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=swig.recipe.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=swig.recipe.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- swig/swig.recipe 2004-06-24 14:01:16.000000000 -0400 +++ swig-new/swig.recipe 2004-08-11 22:43:48.000000000 -0400 @@ -15,16 +15,19 @@ def setup(r): r.mainDir('SWIG-%(version)s') - r.addArchive('http://aleron.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/%(name)s/%(name)s-%(version)s.tar.gz') + r.addArchive('http://aleron.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/%(name)s/%(name)s-%(version)s.tar.gz') + srpm = 'ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/swig-1.3.21-3.src.rpm' + r.addPatch('swig-1.3.19-pylib.patch', rpm=srpm) r.Configure() - # install M4 file in correct spot - r.Run('sed -i "s|^M4_INSTALL_DIR = /usr/|M4_INSTALL_DIR = \${DESTDIR}/usr/|g" Makefile') + # install M4 file in correct spot + r.Run('sed -i "s|^M4_INSTALL_DIR = /usr/|M4_INSTALL_DIR = \${DESTDIR}/usr/|g" Makefile') r.Make() r.Make('runtime') r.MakePathsInstall('DESTDIR=%(destdir)s') + r.Make('runtime-install') r.Doc('ANNOUNCE', 'CHANGES', 'FUTURE', 'INSTALL', 'LICENSE', 'NEW', 'README', 'TODO', 'Doc/*') --=-pMU6vbOttZAYLO19T/YS-- From ebpeele2@pams.ncsu.edu Wed Aug 11 23:28:22 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.dulug.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7C3SMbI016218 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:28:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.202] (rdu57-78-175.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.175]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D0A2C185 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:25:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Elliot Peele To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <1092279259.1647.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1092279259.1647.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Z8oZkwm1FQ9JPk4buf6t" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:27:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1092281247.1647.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.91 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:43:18 -0400 Subject: Re: swig fixes to make subversion build X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:28:22 -0000 --=-Z8oZkwm1FQ9JPk4buf6t Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, let just pretend that patch doesn't exists as it seems that apparently that isn't the recipe I built my swig package from. Matt changed some stuff and fixed the swig package and it should be on conary-commits. Elliot On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 22:54 -0400, Elliot Peele wrote: > Heres a patch to the swig recipe so that it installs libswigpy. Also the > subversion package will build now. >=20 > Elliot > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list --=20 Elliot Peele --=-Z8oZkwm1FQ9JPk4buf6t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBGuOfmSqoIAXFTXMRAt+bAJsFFhq6dPAWfxzBh6JKyVCb9ClgfwCgtufm qsDfx6srcHCBBx57XdNPiMQ= =H+zj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Z8oZkwm1FQ9JPk4buf6t-- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 12 19:39:57 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7CNdvbI018160 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:39:57 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECD716212 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7CNeUTD003374 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:40:30 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7CNeU28003372 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:40:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:40:30 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040812234030.GA2613@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:39:57 -0000 The big focus of this repository update was getting binaries caught up with sources. Previous updates have had more and more new :source components not built; we tried to build most of the lagging :source components for the 0.4 ISO we are working on. The 0.4 ISO is still being built (change in kernel uname caused some delay) but it should be pretty much the same as this content when it comes out. (The 0.4 ISO will not introduce lots of conary changes after all; we are going to wait a few more days before we do that.) New packages: gnome-spell, hal New versions: dbus, docbook-dtds (fixed taghandler), kernel (2.6 kernel; should now be able to build external modules against the kernel using the build-tree and source-tree components -- please discuss any failures here or on #conary), linux-kernel (ditto for 2.4 kernel, though less tested so far), neon (enable ssl), rp-pppoe (was only :source before), subversion (including mod_dav_svn, was only :source before), swig (install runtime) New binaries: GConf (includes test), Zope (was only :source before), autoconf, automake (test), bind, bison (test), cproto (test), db (built without POSIX mutexes), e2fsprogs (test), ed (test), enscript (test), flex (test), fontconfig (font tag handler built), gaim (re-enable nss SSL support), gdm (no significant change), gettext (test), glib (version 1.2, but don't install it yet, we still have bugs between 1.2 and 2.0 to resolve), glibc (remove files that conflict with quota), gmp, gnupg (moved docs), gpm (was only :source before), gstreamer (revert version from 0.8.4 to 0.8.3 temporarily), gtk (no significant change), gtk-engines (do not provide module sonames in dependency info), hotplug (add missing /etc/hotplug.d/ directory and contents), librsvg (no significant change), mailman (config file marked as config file), mkinitrd (no significant change, taghandler added to source but not yet hooked up), mozilla (add desktop and menu items), pygtk (2.3.95 developmnt version), pyxf86config (compile .py files), tclx (was only :source before), vixie-cron (/etc/crond./ now exists even though empty), xorg-x11 (no significant change) "(no significant change)" means that no semantic changes were made to the sources, only cosmetics such as comments were changed, and the rebuild was just to catch binary releases up to source releases. In general, rebuilds of packages with python files caused .pyc and .pyo files to be marked as "transient", which should in the future help avoid the need to use --replace-files. New sources: evolution Note that the new :test components are NOT part of their corresponding packages; like :source components, :test components live alone. You can install them separately and try them out, though. Repeat from last time: As part of the work of moving conary over to use sqlite 3, the repository has an sqlite 3 package in it. However, if you update to it, conary will no longer function, even to revert. Please do not update to the new sqlite! From elliot@bentlogic.net Fri Aug 13 01:50:34 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.dulug.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7D5oYbI018599 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:50:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.202] (rdu57-78-175.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.175]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19E12C0E1 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:47:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-//gCvYSmQE3fgPiF2g8Z" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:49:38 -0400 Message-Id: <1092376178.1645.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.91 Subject: updated recipe for evolution X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 05:50:34 -0000 --=-//gCvYSmQE3fgPiF2g8Z Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have added some needed biuldrequires to the evolution recipe and turned on some things in the config file so that it builds with ldap, krb5, and pilot conduits enabled. Elliot --=-//gCvYSmQE3fgPiF2g8Z Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=evolution.recipe Content-Type: text/plain; name=evolution.recipe; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit # # Copyright (c) 2004 Specifix, Inc. # All rights reserved # loadRecipe('gnomepackage.recipe') class Evolution(GnomePackageRecipe): name = 'evolution' version = '1.5.91' extraConfig = GnomePackageRecipe.extraConfig + ' --enable-nss=yes' buildRequires = [ 'evolution-data-server:devel', 'libgal:devel', 'libsoup:devel', 'gtkhtml:devel', 'mozilla:devel', 'libbonobo:devel', 'libbonoboui:devel', 'gnome-vfs:devel', 'libgnomecanvas:devel', 'libxml2:devel', 'GConf:devel', 'intltool', 'ORBit2:devel', 'flex', 'bison', 'byacc', 'libtool', 'gettext', 'pkgconfig', 'desktop-file-utils'] # XXX actually requires mozilla-nss -- may only be runtime # add ldap support if Use.ldap: extraConfig += ' --with-openldap=yes' buildRequires.append('openldap:devel') else: extraConfig += ' --without-openldap' # add krb5 support if Use.krb: extraConfig += ' --with-krb5=/usr/kerberos' buildRequires.append('krb5:devel') else: extraConfig += ' --without-krb5' # add support for pilot (should probably have a use flag here) extraConfig += ' --enable-pilot-conduits=yes' buildRequires.append('gnome-pilot:devel') buildRequires.append('pilot-link:devel') def build(r): r.Run('intltoolize -c -f') GnomePackageRecipe.build(r) --=-//gCvYSmQE3fgPiF2g8Z-- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 13 12:22:25 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DGMObI020208 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:22:25 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F991675B for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DGMxTD025048 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:22:59 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7DGMxSd025046 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:22:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:22:59 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040813162259.GA25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040812234030.GA2613@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040812234030.GA2613@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:22:25 -0000 On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:40:30PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > (The > 0.4 ISO will not introduce lots of conary changes after all; we are > going to wait a few more days before we do that.) We changed our minds again. We're going to rebuild the 0.4 ISO with the new conary. You can update your existing version to talk to the new repository code by following the instructions at http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion The repository will be moving over to the new conary sometime today. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 13 12:28:42 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DGSgbI020224 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:28:42 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742F61675B for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DGTHTD025192 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:29:17 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7DGTGlr025190 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:29:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:29:16 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040813162916.GB25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:28:43 -0000 Last repository update that the 0.6* versions of conary will be able to talk to; transition should happen later today to the new format. New packages: sysfsutils (needed by new udev) New versions: anaconda, conary, mkinitrd, sqlite (see caution below, do not update sqlite yet!) New binaries: udev (fix ata_identify, modify conf file, buildreq sysfsutils) New sources: dbus (new upstream), hal (new upstream), xdelta (ported to glib 2) Repeat from last time: As part of the work of moving conary over to use sqlite 3, the repository has an sqlite 3 package in it. However, if you update to it, conary will no longer function, even to revert. Please do not update to the new sqlite! This is the last update with this situation; the internal repository is now using the new database, so the next update will necessarily be using the new code. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 13 13:58:53 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com ([64.62.200.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DHwqbI020313 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:58:53 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C805816766 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7DHxRTD027099 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:59:27 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7DHxRtC027097 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:59:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:59:27 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040813175927.GC25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040813162916.GB25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040813162916.GB25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:58:53 -0000 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:29:16PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Last repository update that the 0.6* versions of conary will be > able to talk to; transition should happen later today to the new > format. That transition has happened. Follow the transition process documented at http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion and then you will be able to access the repository again. Please let us know if you have any difficulties in the transition. #conary is probably the best place to do so, because we can interact directly. Several machines have already been migrated successfully; there have been no errors so far. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 16 10:17:03 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7GEH0bI000351 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:17:01 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9781623F for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7GEHcTD022696 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:17:38 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7GEHctq022694 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:17:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:17:38 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040816141738.GA22355@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040813162916.GB25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040813162916.GB25005@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:17:04 -0000 New packages: abiword, aiksaurus, enchant, frebidi, g-wrap, gnumeric, libgda, libgnomedb, libgphoto2 (doesn't work yet), libwmf, mergeant, psiconv New sources: gnet, gphoto2 (known not to work), grip, gthumb, gtkam, iRipDB, id3lib, libmusicbrainz, pan, sound-juicer, vorbis-tools I'll let the packagers give any comments or caveats they want to. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 17 09:14:18 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HDEIbI008198 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:14:18 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E411D1620B for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 06:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HDEuTD008406 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:14:56 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7HDEun5008404 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:14:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:14:56 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040817131456.GA7680@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:14:18 -0000 This covers changes since Friday. Pay particular attention to: conary: http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion and new tag changes at http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryDynamicTags texinfo: unmangling info directory file New packages: pcmcia-cs (source only right now) New versions: anaconda, autoconf, conary (small incompatibilities relative to 0.7.0; see http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion for details), glibc (put info pages in the right place), m4 (ditto), texinfo (unmangle the info directory file -- you will need to remove and then update the texinfo package to fix your info directory file) New source versions: TiMidity, cyrus-sasl (1.5.28-2 no longer conflicts with 2.1.15), dbus (re-add /var/run/dbus), docbook-dsssl (self->handler in tagdescription, keeping up with changes to http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryDynamicTags), esound (new upstream), ethereal (new upstream, still doesn't build), glib (new upstream), gstreamer (new upstream, Provides exception), gtk (new upstream), kernel and linux-kernel (explicitly tag kernel files), metacity (new upstream), mkinitrd (kernel tagdescription/handler), mutt (now builds, against cyrus-sasl 1 that now doesn't conflict with newer cyrus-sasl 2), python (add :test), rsync (add :test), xscreensaver (new upstream) From ewtlists@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 17 09:16:13 2004 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (rdu-nat.specifixinc.com [24.172.59.42]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HDGCbI008213 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:16:13 -0400 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HDGNMF001459 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:16:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i7HDGNLC001455 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:16:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Troan X-X-Sender: ewt@bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040817131456.GA7680@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Message-ID: References: <20040817131456.GA7680@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:16:13 -0000 It's important that users of conary update to the conary 0.7.4 which is now available. It isn't in any ISO images, and contains some important bug fixes. Erik On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > This covers changes since Friday. Pay particular attention to: > conary: http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion and new > tag changes at http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryDynamicTags > texinfo: unmangling info directory file > > New packages: > pcmcia-cs (source only right now) > > New versions: > anaconda, autoconf, conary (small incompatibilities relative to > 0.7.0; see http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion for > details), glibc (put info pages in the right place), m4 (ditto), > texinfo (unmangle the info directory file -- you will need to > remove and then update the texinfo package to fix your info > directory file) > > New source versions: > TiMidity, cyrus-sasl (1.5.28-2 no longer conflicts with 2.1.15), > dbus (re-add /var/run/dbus), docbook-dsssl (self->handler in > tagdescription, keeping up with changes to > http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryDynamicTags), esound (new > upstream), ethereal (new upstream, still doesn't build), > glib (new upstream), gstreamer (new upstream, Provides > exception), gtk (new upstream), kernel and linux-kernel > (explicitly tag kernel files), metacity (new upstream), > mkinitrd (kernel tagdescription/handler), mutt (now builds, > against cyrus-sasl 1 that now doesn't conflict with newer > cyrus-sasl 2), python (add :test), rsync (add :test), > xscreensaver (new upstream) > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 17 12:57:38 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HGvbbI008774 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:57:38 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6883016212 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7HGwHTD016115 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:58:17 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7HGwGsq016113 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:58:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:58:16 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040817165816.GA16075@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1092376178.1645.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1092376178.1645.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: updated recipe for evolution X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:57:38 -0000 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:49:38AM -0400, Elliot Peele wrote: > I have added some needed biuldrequires to the evolution recipe and > turned on some things in the config file so that it builds with ldap, > krb5, and pilot conduits enabled. Just thought I'd mention that this is on the queue and thank you for doing it. Not meaning to ignore it. My opinion is that there's no need to conditionalize the pilot conduits -- I can't imagine building evolution, but not wanting the pilot conduits. However, if it were conditionalized, it should probably be with a package use flag, rather than a system use flag. I think. Arguments to the contrary welcome. :-) From ken@biZrace.com Tue Aug 17 21:25:26 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7I1PPbI009692 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:25:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i7I1PxNr021358 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:24:43 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> In-Reply-To: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:25:26 -0000 Missing Document Root directory for apache. "/var/www/html" is referenced as the default Document Root, but the directory doesn't exist. Fix, create /var/www/html and restart apache. --Ken From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Aug 18 15:34:28 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7IJYRbI011658 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:34:28 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630F216264 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7IJZ8TD022641 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:35:08 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7IJZ3JB022639 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:35:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:35:03 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040818193503.GA22514@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:34:28 -0000 New packages: gphoto2, gthumb, gtkam, libgphoto2, spyce New sources: My-SQL-python, g-wrap, gnumeric, libgda, libgnomedb, mergeant, sound-juicer From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 19 09:53:12 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7JDrBbI017610 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:53:12 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277EE1649A for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7JDrqTD015306 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:53:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7JDroXr015304 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:53:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:53:50 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040819135350.GA14809@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:53:12 -0000 As before, if you are running Conary 0.7.0 or earlier, see http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Particularly notice the new rsync for a security fix. New packages: espgs (version of ghostscript), firefox (only :source before), ghostscript-fonts, libieee1284 (needed for sane), mtr (only :source before), mutt (only :source before), pcmcia-cs (only :source before), sane-backends, sane-frontends, ttmkfdir, xdelta (only :source before) New versions: conary, dbus (re-add /var/run/dbus), docbook-dsssl (fixed taghandler), docbook-xsl (ditto), esound (new upstream), gdb (:test fixes), gstreamer (new upstream), gtk (new upstream), hal (new upstream), kernel (builds with newer conary, x86_64 support, tagged for kernel taghandler), libsoup (new upstream), linux-kernel (builds with newer conary, tagged for kernel taghandler), metacity (new upstream), mkinitrd (kernel taghandler, will make kernels install themselves properly on update), python (:test work), rsync (new upstream for security fix), xscreensaver (new upstream) New source versions: ethereal (builds properly now), evolution-data-server (new upstream), evolution (new upstream, fixes from Elliot Peele), gal (new upstream), ggv, gimp (builds properly now), glib (new upstream), xsane From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 19 16:53:04 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7JKr4bI018776 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:53:04 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1876716212 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7JKrjTD006711 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:53:45 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7JKrj8D006709 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:53:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:53:45 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040819205345.GA6651@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:53:04 -0000 As before, if you are running Conary 0.7.0 or earlier, see http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion New packages: lm_sensors New versions: desktop-printing, evolution, evolution-data-server, gal, ggv, gimp (new upstream), gnome-spell, gtkhtml, iptables, libgnomecups, rhythmbox, xsane New source versions: ethereal From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 19 21:55:25 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7K1tObI019350 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:55:25 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2026D16212 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7K1u6TD013967 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:56:06 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7K1u6g6013965 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:56:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:56:06 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040820015606.GA13892@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:55:25 -0000 New packages: qemu New versions: gqview, gv, xpdf (were only :source before) New sources: MySQL-python, mx From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 20 12:43:20 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7KGhKbI011243 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:43:20 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EFC1623F for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7KGi2TD032468 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:44:02 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7KGi2WN032466 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:44:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:44:02 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040820164402.GA32434@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:43:21 -0000 New packages: gnome-system-tools, librsync, obconf, openbox, planner, rdiff-backup, sonykeyd, spicctrl New sources: gnome-nettool From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 09:55:47 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QDtlbI032578 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:55:47 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B901416784 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QDuaNI019570 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:56:36 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7QDuaiE019568 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:56:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:56:36 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040826135636.GA18579@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:55:47 -0000 As before, if you are running Conary 0.7.0 or earlier, see http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Also, we'll be updating Conary to 0.8.0 soon, which will require another conversion; changesets are changing format again, to support hardlinks and reduce memory usage. New versions: conary, conary-gui, New source versions: A great many that I don't list, where the only change is the source of the URL, or disabling parallel make. dbus (latest upstream, remove references to Fedora), galeon (fixed buildRequires), glibc (infodir fixes), gtk (new upstream 2.4.8), hal (add hwdata buildRequires, remove references to Fedora), hdparm (new upstream 5.6), indent (remove /usr/doc), libmng (added auto* buildRequires), ltrace (remove /usr/doc), vsftpd (added a buildRequires), New sources: foomatic, xfsprogs, From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 10:12:00 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QEBxbI032649 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:12:00 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A8916784 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QECmNI023461 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:12:48 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7QECmQo023448 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:12:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:12:48 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040826141248.GB18579@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:12:00 -0000 New packages: gnome-cups-manager, gnome-nettool, gnome-volume-manager, gnomebaker, liferea, powernowd, valgrind New versions: bsddb3, g-wrap, gphoto2, gthumb, libgda, libgnomedb, qemu, straw New source versions: abiword From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 16:03:29 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QK3SbI001315 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:03:29 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC151649A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QK4INI018991 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:04:18 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7QK4IMw018989 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:04:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:04:18 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:03:29 -0000 On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:24:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > Missing Document Root directory for apache. "/var/www/html" is > referenced as the default Document Root, but the directory doesn't exist. > > Fix, create /var/www/html and restart apache. I think this is fixed by our including an index.html. Next apache build, I expect. From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Aug 26 17:00:18 2004 Received: from in.fer.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QL0HbI001416 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:00:17 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.49] (unknown [10.0.1.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by in.fer.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D03F20A9B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:01:39 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:00:18 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:24:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > >>Missing Document Root directory for apache. "/var/www/html" is >>referenced as the default Document Root, but the directory doesn't exist. >> >>Fix, create /var/www/html and restart apache. > > > I think this is fixed by our including an index.html. Next apache > build, I expect. No don't do that. Apache uses /var/www/error/noindex.html (which needs to be unfedoraized) if index.html is missing. All users want a custom index.html Geir From ken@bizrace.com Thu Aug 26 17:03:32 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QL3WbI001437 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:03:32 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id E43DD5F60A; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:04:23 -0400 Message-ID: <1093554263.412e5057a5e5a@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:04:23 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion , Geir Thomassen References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Cc: Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:03:33 -0000 I think the noindex.html is a good thing to stick with. All that needs to be done is create the directory. Apache can't start without it. --Ken Quoting Geir Thomassen : > Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:24:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > > >>Missing Document Root directory for apache. "/var/www/html" is > >>referenced as the default Document Root, but the directory doesn't exist. > >> > >>Fix, create /var/www/html and restart apache. > > > > > > I think this is fixed by our including an index.html. Next apache > > build, I expect. > > No don't do that. Apache uses /var/www/error/noindex.html (which needs > to be unfedoraized) if index.html is missing. All users want a custom > index.html > > Geir > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 17:32:10 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QLWAbI001726 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:32:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABF41649A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QLWxNI021835 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:32:59 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7QLWxXS021833 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:32:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:32:59 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:32:10 -0000 On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:01:39PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Michael K. Johnson wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:24:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > > >>Missing Document Root directory for apache. "/var/www/html" is > >>referenced as the default Document Root, but the directory doesn't exist. > >> > >>Fix, create /var/www/html and restart apache. > > > > > >I think this is fixed by our including an index.html. Next apache > >build, I expect. > > No don't do that. Apache uses /var/www/error/noindex.html (which needs > to be unfedoraized) if index.html is missing. All users want a custom > index.html Remember that conary preserves files. You can even conary remove /var/www/html/index.html and it will stay gone. I think that /var/www/error/noindex.html is a hack for packaging systems without this capability. Make sense? If not, I'd love to hear why not... From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Thu Aug 26 17:37:41 2004 Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QLbfbI001764 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:41 -0400 Received: from [152.3.182.42] (opus.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.42]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE893240 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: seth vidal To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093556271.17574.0.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:52 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:37:42 -0000 > Remember that conary preserves files. You can even conary remove > /var/www/html/index.html and it will stay gone. I think that > /var/www/error/noindex.html is a hack for packaging systems > without this capability. > > Make sense? If not, I'd love to hear why not... noindex, iirc, was put in place to keep vhosts from, by default, being unprotected when indexing was enabled. -sv From ewtlists@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 17:54:36 2004 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (rdu-nat.specifixinc.com [24.172.59.42]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QLsZbI001841 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:54:36 -0400 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QLskV2023748 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:54:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i7QLskms023744 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:54:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Troan X-X-Sender: ewt@bradley.rdu.specifixinc.com To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Message-ID: References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:54:36 -0000 On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Remember that conary preserves files. You can even conary remove > /var/www/html/index.html and it will stay gone. I think that > /var/www/error/noindex.html is a hack for packaging systems > without this capability. > > Make sense? If not, I'd love to hear why not... I don't think so -- it seems like we'll want to be able to change that index file over time, and trying to merge our changes into a "real" index.html will be a mess. Erik From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 18:07:02 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QM71bI001918 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:07:02 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36041649A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7QM7pNI023409 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:07:51 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7QM7pjo023407 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:07:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:07:51 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040826220751.GA23339@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:07:02 -0000 See http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion You will need to update your Conary due to changeset format modifications before you can access the repository again. New versions: conary (new changeset format supporting hardlinks) New source versions: gtk (yet another new upstream), initscripts (handle changes to conary policy), kernel (new upstream, now builds), net-snmp (working around bad perl 5.8.0 makemaker) New builds: gzip, lm_sensors New sources: lslk, nc, ncompress, recode From msw@specifixinc.com Thu Aug 26 23:55:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7R3tWbI002611 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:55:33 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBA01649A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7R3uMNI014908 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:56:22 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7R3uLj2014906 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:56:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:56:21 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040827035621.GA10602@specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.6 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 03:55:33 -0000 The weekly snapshot of the distribution is now available at: ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.6/specifix-linux-0.6.iso This build of the distribution uses Conary 0.8.0. As a result of the new changeset format, the ISO image is almost 60 MiB smaller than the 0.5 release, yet contains even more packages. That's a savings of almost 9%. Added packages: autoconf-2.13, automake-1.6.3, cyrus-sasl-1.5.28, and lm_sensors. This is the first distro release to install two versions of autoconf, automake, and cyrus-sasl in parallel. After installation is complete you will see: [root@mswtest root]# conary q autoconf autoconf 2.13-1-6 autoconf 2.57-2-1 Updated packages: conary, conary-gui, distro-release, gzip, and hotplug. Give it a whirl, and send mail to distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com with your comments, or find us in the #conary channel on irc.freenode.net. Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Aug 27 09:30:43 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7RDUgbI025041 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:30:42 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D9C16745 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7RDVKNI026233 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:31:20 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7RDVKV7026231 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:31:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:31:20 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040827133120.GA26168@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <410C5539.6080406@biZrace.com> <4122AFDB.3050201@biZrace.com> <20040826200418.GA18953@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <412E4FB3.3010201@in.fer.no> <20040826213259.GA21742@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Bug report - [Missing directory breaks apache] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:30:43 -0000 Thanks to Geir, Seth, and Erik for setting me straight. We'll add error/noindex and an empty html directory. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 30 19:26:17 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7UNQGbI005416 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:26:17 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB4716399 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7UNRBNI016149 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:27:11 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7UNRB0B016147 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:27:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:27:11 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040830232711.GA15732@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:26:17 -0000 The last push had a lot of source updates that were just for recipe tweaks like changing download URLs. This push has over 200 newly cooked packages with those changes cooked into the repository. Because few files have actually changed, the changesets are small. I'm not going to list all 200-odd packages with changes, I'll try to just cover the important changes. The biggest change is the new conary. The source code is very much re-arranged, and the interface has changed as well. There are two big changes you will need to know about: o If you are currently using "conary src", "conary cook", or "conary branch", you'll need to change. The new "cvc" program takes all the arguments that the "conary src" subcommand used to take, and it also takes the "cook" and "branch" commands. So "cvc cook", "cvc branch", "cvc checkout", "cvc commit", etc. o The "installLabel" in your /etc/conaryrc and/or ~/.conaryrc has been changed to "installLabelPath" as part of our work on dealing sanely with multiple repositories. New versions: conary (as discussed) autofs (new policy fixes), pcmcia-cs (put back a few programs that are useful at least with the 2.4 kernel), hal (disabled fstab modifications for now), kudzu and pciutils (updated for better 2.6 kernel support), linux-kernel (bug fixes in configuration management; these bug fixes require a new conary with a bug fix for flag comparisons -- note that your uname will be different with this kernel, now that configuration has been fixed) New source versions: kernel (same changes as linux-kernel, just not cooked yet) From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Aug 30 19:42:23 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7UNgMbI005461 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:42:23 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A95B16399 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7UNhENI016824 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:43:14 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7UNhEWb016822 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:43:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:43:14 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040830234314.GA16783@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:42:23 -0000 New packages: celestia, cog, freeglut, gtkglext, quick-lounge-applet New versions: gnome-nettool, planner New source versions: openafs From elliot@bentlogic.net Mon Aug 30 23:19:19 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.dulug.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7V3JIbI009940 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:19:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.202] (rdu57-78-175.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.175]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B324BC1FB for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:20:13 -0400 Message-Id: <1093922413.2098.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: new mirror X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 03:19:19 -0000 I have setup a new mirror at: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix Elliot From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 31 10:09:10 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7VE99bI003189 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:09:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BFC16783 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7VDhaNI000590 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:43:36 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7VDhZ7u000588 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:43:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:43:35 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040831134335.GA558@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1093922413.2098.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1093922413.2098.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: new mirror X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:09:10 -0000 On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 11:20:13PM -0400, Elliot Peele wrote: > I have setup a new mirror at: > > ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix Thank you, Elliot! I guess I should mention here to other prospective mirrors: publically available mirrors get rsync access to the ftp site now. From elliot@bentlogic.net Tue Aug 31 11:39:08 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.dulug.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7VFd7bI007950 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:39:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.202] (rdu57-78-175.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.175]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEA0BC1FC for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Elliot Peele To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20040831134335.GA558@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1093922413.2098.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040831134335.GA558@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:40:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1093966801.2098.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new mirror X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:39:08 -0000 On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 09:43 -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 11:20:13PM -0400, Elliot Peele wrote: > > I have setup a new mirror at: > > > > ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix > > Thank you, Elliot! > > I guess I should mention here to other prospective mirrors: publically > available mirrors get rsync access to the ftp site now. For got to mention I also have rsync available at rsync://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/specifix Elliot -- Elliot Peele From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Aug 31 19:16:00 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7VNG0bI010304 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:16:00 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD43164A1 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7VNGtNI021926 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:16:55 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7VNGtp6021924 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:16:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:16:55 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040831231655.GA21826@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:16:00 -0000 Conary changed again. Version 0.9.0 is in the repository, and the update path is, as usual, documented at http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Note that the only new binary cooked into the repository is conary itself; all the other changes are just to source components at this time. New versions: conary (protocol change) New source versions: cups (packaging fixes), krb5 (packaging fix), kernel (SMP builds now work, AMD64 build bug fixed), minicom (buildRequires), apr (test change), linux-kernel (SMP builds now enabled, sync with appropriate kernel changes), docbook-dsssl (taghandler fixes) New sources: glabels, devhelp (gtk-doc viewer) From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 2 22:55:28 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i832tRbI014238 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:55:27 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED631678A for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i832uONI030727 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:56:24 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i832uOMV030725 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:56:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:56:24 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040903025624.GA30656@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: ISO delayed X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 02:55:28 -0000 A bug in pango made our first 0.7 candidate unusable, so it won't be available tonight. FYI. From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 3 13:37:56 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83HbtbI027734 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:37:55 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F06016781 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83HcsNI026580 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:54 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i83HcsbY026578 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:54 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040903173853.GA24144@specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.7 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:37:56 -0000 Now available, Specifix Linux 0.7 (ALPHA) - Even More Alpha Than Before. ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso Please use a mirror. They have much more available bandwidth than download.specifixinc.com. Thank you, mirror sites administrators! ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso Note that the MD5SUM file is not correct on openwebmail.org's mirror. This will be fixed when the mirror updates later tonight. The correct MD5SUM is 514e4c616ac66559be0cc7bca4474287. This version is the first to use a 2.6 kernel and an updated anaconda code base. That makes this release much less tested than our previous versions. The following packages were added: ethereal, gnumeric, inkscape, libieee1284, libsigc++, tclx, xfsprogs, kernel, pyparted, system-config-mouse The following were removed: linux-kernel Many packages have been updated, but most of the source-build number increases were due to updating upstream URLs. The binaries haven't changed dramatically. There is a very noticeable cosmetic bug in this release. /etc/distro-release reports the version number as 0.6 instead of 0.7. That will be fixed next week. Please give 0.7 a try and email any feedback to distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com. I'm eager to hear how the 2.6 kernel and new anaconda hold up under wide testing. Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 3 13:38:00 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83HbxbI027746 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:37:59 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DE216781 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83HcwNI026588 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:58 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i83HcwY3026586 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:58 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040903173858.GA26057@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:38:00 -0000 Roughly corresponding to the 0.7 ISO image, we have published more changes to the repository. If you do not have at least Conary 0.9.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion One package rebuild created a new package, due to a bug fix in Conary. Before, all components built from a single recipe, regardless of the name of the component, went into one package. For example, MAKEDEV:source built dev:runtime, but dev:runtime was in the MAKEDEV package and there was no dev package. Now there is a dev package that contains dev:runtime. In general, in these cases, you will want to update both packages together. Right now, don't update MAKEDEV or install dev; we're looking into a possible conary bug there. Also, please note that the krb5 update is a security update. New versions: MAKEDEV (dev is now a separate package; do not try to update MAKEDEV or install dev right now; bugs in conary are making that fail), a2ps, apr, conary, cups, galeon, hwdata, inkscape (first build, :source only before), inn, kernel, krb5 (security update), kudzu, libsigc++ (first build, :source only before), linux-kernel (smp flavor on by default), logrotate, nc (first build, :source only before), ncompress (first build, :source only before), pango (taghandler fix so that modules are again installed correctly), parted, pciutils, pcmcia-cs (policy change only), pdksh (first build, :source only before), ppp, pump, pygtk, pyparted (new), rhpl, system-config-mouse (new) New builds: am-utils, autofs, cyrus-sasl, docbook-dsssl, dovecot, gtk (among other things, fixes a bug in nautilus where thumbnail images appeared corrupted), lslk, minicom, mysql, quagga (requires the quagga user, will not install without adding the user manually until we add proper uid/gid handling), recode, smartmontools, xfsprogs New source versions: gnumeric, mkinitrd (kernel taghandler changes -- notice LILO boot record, make new kernels be the default to run), samba, speex (new upstream), system-config-keyboard (new), vorbis-tools (new) From tchung@openwebmail.org Fri Sep 3 15:23:11 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83JNAbI027886 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:23:10 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i83JOgWG013077 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:24:43 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:24:42 -0700 Message-Id: <20040903192339.M17495@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040903173853.GA24144@specifixinc.com> References: <20040903173853.GA24144@specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.40 20040830 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.7 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:23:11 -0000 Hi All, I just ran the rsync script to get the correct MD5SUM on our mirror site: [root@www 0.7]# cat MD5SUM 514e4c616ac66559be0cc7bca4474287 specifix-linux-0.7.iso [root@www 0.7]# md5sum --check MD5SUM specifix-linux-0.7.iso: OK Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Sent: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:38:54 -0400 Subject: Specifix Linux 0.7 (ALPHA) available > Now available, Specifix Linux 0.7 (ALPHA) - Even More Alpha Than Before. > > ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso > > Please use a mirror. They have much more available bandwidth than > download.specifixinc.com. Thank you, mirror sites administrators! > > ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso > http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.7/specifix-linux-0.7.iso > > Note that the MD5SUM file is not correct on openwebmail.org's mirror. > This will be fixed when the mirror updates later tonight. The correct > MD5SUM is 514e4c616ac66559be0cc7bca4474287. > > This version is the first to use a 2.6 kernel and an updated anaconda > code base. That makes this release much less tested than our previous > versions. > > The following packages were added: > ethereal, gnumeric, inkscape, libieee1284, libsigc++, tclx, > xfsprogs, kernel, pyparted, system-config-mouse > > The following were removed: > linux-kernel > > Many packages have been updated, but most of the source-build number > increases were due to updating upstream URLs. The binaries haven't > changed dramatically. > > There is a very noticeable cosmetic bug in this release. > /etc/distro-release reports the version number as 0.6 instead of 0.7. > That will be fixed next week. > > Please give 0.7 a try and email any feedback to > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com. I'm eager to hear how the 2.6 > kernel and new anaconda hold up under wide testing. > > Cheers, > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 9 08:49:52 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i89CnqbI029487 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:49:52 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E2216610 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 05:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i89CnqNI032746 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:49:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i89Cnqv3032744 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:49:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:49:52 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040909124952.GA32687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:49:52 -0000 New packages: gretools, libsamplerate, ndiswrapper, system-config-soundcard, transfig, vnc, xfig New versions: cog, gecko-sharp (first build), gtk-sharp (first build), gtksourceview-sharp (first build), liferea, mono (first build) New source versions: aklog From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 9 09:49:11 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i89DnAbI029605 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 09:49:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C4016610 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 06:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i89DnBNI001425 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 09:49:11 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i89DnBCf001423 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 09:49:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 09:49:10 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040909134910.GB32687@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:49:11 -0000 If you do not have at least Conary 0.9.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Make SURE that you do not do "conary update MAKEDEV" if the "dev" package is not installed on your system. Run the command: conary update MAKEDEV dev --replace-files to get the proper package set installed on your system. You will need this only if you started with the 0.6 ISO, or earlier. The 0.7 ISO has the proper dev package in it. There are several security updates: star (only applies to setuid, which is not how we ship it), samba, and lha. New versions: conary, evolution, gnopernicus, initscripts, kernel (split into kernel and kernel-source packages to enable installing multiple flavors of kernel simultaneously), lha (security), libsigc++, linux-kernel (split like kernel), lm_sensors, metacity, mkinitrd, pam, samba, star, tar, tetex (first binary build; see note below), xfsprogs New builds: cvs, distcc, popt, speex, vorbis-tools (first build), xmltex New source versions: dasher, openoffice.org (current :source component does not build, an update is under construction but has not yet been completed) New packages: w3c-libwww Note: If you get an "Argument list too long" error from updating tetex, you will need to run these two commands as root: /usr/libexec/conary/tags/texdata files update /usr/libexec/conary/tags/texpackagesource files update From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 10 00:11:42 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8A4BgbI030929 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:42 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C2D1622A for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8A4BhNI026204 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:43 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8A4BhDj026202 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:43 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040910041143.GA21793@specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: No ISO tonight X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:11:43 -0000 I ran into various problems today. Look for the weekly ISO tomorrow. Cheers, Matt From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Sep 13 18:49:29 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DMnSbI011711 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:49:29 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65F164B3 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DMnYNI019243 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:49:34 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8DMnYxg019241 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:49:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:49:34 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040913224934.GB27093@specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.8 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:49:29 -0000 I've just uploaded nearly 900 MB of Specifix Linux goodness to download.specifixinc.com. If you're patient, you can grab the latest ALPHA release (version 0.8) here: ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.8/ But since watching downloads trickle in at 10 KB/s on your speedy connection isn't a lot of fun, you will want to use a mirror site. The mirror.physics.ncsu.edu mirror already has 0.8, so it's your best bet: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.8 The http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/ mirror will update tonight, unless Thomas kicks off a sync by hand. This is the first release of the distribution that has required two CDs to install. The installed system needs almost 3 GB of storage. Added packages: OpenOffice.org (which was previously only available in the networked repository), sysstat, tetex, and w3c-libwww. Additionally, both a uniprocessor and SMP kernel are provided. Only the uniprocessor kernel will be configured in grub after the install completes. Removed packages: lha, Plone, Zope Updated packages: am-utils, conary, cvs, distcc, distro-release, docbook-dtds, docbook-xsl, evolution, gaim (new upstream version), galeon, gdm, glade, gucharmap, initscripts, libsigc++, lm_sensors, metacity (new upstream version), mkinitrd, pam (new upstream version), pcituils, popt, samba (new upstream version), speex (new upstream version), star (new upstream version), tar, xfsprogs And yes, now that we so much software that we need a multi-CD install, package selection moves higher on my TODO list. Download, test, and enjoy. Cheers, Matt From tchung@openwebmail.org Mon Sep 13 19:16:44 2004 Received: from www.openwebmail.org (www.openwebmail.org [69.44.61.113]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DNGibI011847 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:16:44 -0400 Received: from openwebmail.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.openwebmail.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DNHa6Z014367 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:17:36 -0700 From: "Thomas Chung" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:17:36 -0700 Message-Id: <20040913231620.M79460@openwebmail.org> In-Reply-To: <20040913224934.GB27093@specifixinc.com> References: <20040913224934.GB27093@specifixinc.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.40 20040912 X-OriginatingIP: 137.79.66.107 (tchung) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.8 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:16:44 -0000 Hi All, Our mirror site is ready with confirmed MD5SUM! # ll -h total 899M -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126 Sep 13 15:21 MD5SUMS -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 559M Sep 13 15:20 specifix-linux-0.8-disc1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340M Sep 13 15:20 specifix-linux-0.8-disc2.iso # md5sum --check MD5SUMS specifix-linux-0.8-disc1.iso: OK specifix-linux-0.8-disc2.iso: OK Thomas ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Sent: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:49:34 -0400 Subject: Specifix Linux 0.8 (ALPHA) available > I've just uploaded nearly 900 MB of Specifix Linux goodness to > download.specifixinc.com. If you're patient, you can grab the latest > ALPHA release (version 0.8) here: > ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.8/ > > But since watching downloads trickle in at 10 KB/s on your speedy > connection isn't a lot of fun, you will want to use a mirror site. The > mirror.physics.ncsu.edu mirror already has 0.8, so it's your best bet: > ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.8 > > The http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/ mirror will > update tonight, unless Thomas kicks off a sync by hand. > > This is the first release of the distribution that has required two > CDs to install. The installed system needs almost 3 GB of storage. > > Added packages: > OpenOffice.org (which was previously only available in the networked > repository), sysstat, tetex, and w3c-libwww. Additionally, both a > uniprocessor and SMP kernel are provided. Only the uniprocessor > kernel will be configured in grub after the install completes. > > Removed packages: lha, Plone, Zope > > Updated packages: am-utils, conary, cvs, distcc, distro-release, > docbook-dtds, docbook-xsl, evolution, gaim (new upstream version), > galeon, gdm, glade, gucharmap, initscripts, libsigc++, lm_sensors, > metacity (new upstream version), mkinitrd, pam (new upstream > version), pcituils, popt, samba (new upstream version), speex (new > upstream version), star (new upstream version), tar, xfsprogs > > And yes, now that we so much software that we need a multi-CD install, > package selection moves higher on my TODO list. > > Download, test, and enjoy. > > Cheers, > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ------- End of Original Message ------- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Sep 13 19:16:55 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DNGtbI011859 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:16:55 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAD164B3 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8DNH0NI019974 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:17:00 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8DNH0wF019970 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:17:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:17:00 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040913231700.GA19458@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:16:55 -0000 This update is to just slightly newer than the level of the 0.8 ISO images that we just released. If you do not have at least Conary 0.9.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Before updating other software in this repository, we recommend that you run "conary update conary" first. Make SURE that you do not do "conary update MAKEDEV" if the "dev" package is not installed on your system. Run the command: conary update MAKEDEV dev --replace-files to get the proper package set installed on your system. You will need this only if you started with the 0.6 ISO, or earlier. The 0.7 ISO has the proper dev package in it. There are other packages that have been affected by the same change; tetex is now in tetex, tetex-afm, tetex-dvips, tetex-xdvi, tetex-fonts, and tetex-latex -- but those other packages should not render your system useless if the split-out packages disappear on update, the way that will hapen with the MAKEDEV/dev split. Special updates to do one one command line: conary update MAKEDEV dev --replace-files conary update tetex tetex-afm tetex-dvips tetex-xdvi tetex-fonts tetex-latex conary update kernel kernel-source Note: If you get an "Argument list too long" error from updating tetex, you will need to run these two commands as root: echo | /usr/libexec/conary/tags/texdata files update echo | /usr/libexec/conary/tags/texpackagesource files update New versions: am-utils, conary, docbook-dtds, docbook-xsl, galeon, gdm, glade, gtk, gucharmap, kernel, libgnomecups, tetex, vorbis-tools New source versions: ImageMagick, dejagnu, docbook-dsssl, docbook-utils, doxygen, gimp-print, gnome-cups-manager, gnome-utils, gnumeric, libexif, man, net-snmp, openmotif, parted, perl, qt-x11-free New sources: oprofile New packages: dia, sysstat, urw-fonts From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Sep 14 12:19:56 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8EGJum4014408; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:19:56 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D601622D; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8EGK1NI011022; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:20:01 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8EGK0dR011020; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:20:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:20:00 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: conary-list@lists.specifix.com, distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20040914162000.GA10747@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Domain name addition X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:19:57 -0000 Just wanted to let folks know that Specifix, Inc. now owns the "specifix.com" domain. (Yay!) The mailing list should now respond at both the old and the new address. Please let us know about any difficulties in that regard. For now, the repository will have to continue to live at the "conary.specifixinc.com" and "contrib.specifixinc.com" because the domain name is embedded in the version references. Because we're still alpha, we'll probably end up keeping things as clean as possible by modifying the repository by hand. We'll do this at the same time as another conversion that will need to be applied on the client end, so that we do not add another step. We will need to modify both the repository and client databases in order to enable dependency resolution, and we currently expect to do the version modifications at the same time. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 15 23:14:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8G3EXm4027267 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:14:33 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536871620B for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8G3EgGP014829 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:14:42 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8G3Efrq014827 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:14:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:14:41 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040916031441.GA14668@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Contrib updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:14:34 -0000 New packages: dcraw (reads/processes raw camera images), gimp-DoG (special bluring), gimp-gap (gimp animation package), gimp-help-2 (help files for the gimp), gksu/libgksu1.2/libgksuui1.0 (graphical su/sudo), perl-ExtUtils-Depends, perl-ExtUtils-PkgConfig, perl-glib, perl-gtk, rawphoto (gimp plugin for dcraw), refocus-it (standalone tools and gimp plugin for focussing blurred images) New versions: gnome-system-tools, liferea New source versions: gimp-perl (does not yet build) From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 16 09:28:27 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8GDSQVR028553 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:28:26 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4465A16223 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8GDSYGP028925 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:28:34 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8GDSY3J028923 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:28:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:28:34 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040916132834.GA28877@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:28:27 -0000 This update is mainly to test GNOME 2.8 before we release the 0.9 ISOs with GNOME 2.8 on them. If you do not have at least Conary 0.9.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Before updating other software in this repository, we recommend that you run "conary update conary" first. Make SURE that you do not do "conary update MAKEDEV" if the "dev" package is not installed on your system. Run the command: conary update MAKEDEV dev --replace-files to get the proper package set installed on your system. You will need this only if you started with the 0.6 ISO, or earlier. The 0.7 ISO has the proper dev package in it. New versions/packages: GConf, ImageMagick, ORBit2, at-spi, atk, bug-buddy, conary, control-center, dasher, desktop-file-utils, docbook-dsssl, docbook-dtds, docbook-utils, docbook-utils-pdf (newly split off docbook-utils), doxygen, eel, eog, epiphany, evolution, evolution-data-server, expect (new), expectk (new), file-roller, foomatic (first build), gail, gal, gcalctool, gconf-editor, gdm, gedit, ggv, gimp-print, gnome-applets, gnome-common (new in GNOME 2.8), gnome-desktop, gnome-games, gnome-games-extra-data (new in GNOME 2.8), gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring, gnome-mag, gnome-media, gnome-netstatus, gnome-panel, gnome-pilot-conduits, gnome-pilot, gnome-python, gnome-session, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes, gnome-utils, gnome-vfs, gnome2-user-docs, gnopernicus, gnumeric, gok, gpdf, gst-plugins, gtk, gtkhtml, gtksourceview, intltool, iproute, libIDL, libbonobo, libbonoboui, libexif, libgnome, libgnomecups, libgnomeprint, libgnomeui, libgtop, librsvg, libsoup, libwnck, libxml2, libxslt, lvm, metacity, nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, net-tools, openjade, oprofile, pango, perl, qt-x11-free, samba, samba-swat, stunnel, tcsh, tetex, tetex-afm, tetex-dvips, tetex-fonts, tetex-latex, tetex-xdvi, yelp, zenity New builds: dejagnu, jadetex, man, net-snmp (first build), nss_ldap (first build), parted, vorbis-tools New source versions: gnomepackage (virtual base package) From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 17 01:11:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8H5BWVR030653 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:11:33 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6480D1622A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8H5BfGP019120 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:11:42 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8H5BfLT019118 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:11:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 01:11:41 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040917051141.GC3948@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Specifix Linux 0.9 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 05:11:33 -0000 Yes, that's right, two ISO releases in one week. The major new addition in this release is GNOME 2.8. Also included for the first time are: dejagnu, expect, foomatic, jadetex, and net-snmp. Download ISOs and xdelta files to apply to 0.8 ISOs at: ftp://download.specifixinc.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.9/ Mirrors haven't updated yet, but hopefully they will be synced by morning EST. Good night, and happy downloading. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 17 09:22:43 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8HDMgVR015062 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:22:43 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527031622D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8HDMpGP028217 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:22:51 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8HDMnHt028215 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:22:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:22:49 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040917132249.GA27505@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:22:44 -0000 Before updating other software in this repository, we recommend that you run "conary update conary" first. If you do not have at least Conary 0.9.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion Make SURE that you do not do "conary update MAKEDEV" if the "dev" package is not installed on your system. Run the command: conary update MAKEDEV dev --replace-files to get the proper package set installed on your system. You will need this only if you started with the 0.6 ISO, or earlier. The 0.7 ISO has the proper dev package in it. The builds in this update are now in sync with the 0.9 ISO. New versions/packages: evolution-webcal (first build), gnome-themes-extras (new package), sqlite (new upstrea) New source versions: chkfontpath, db, gamin (new source) From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Sep 21 20:34:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8M0YWVR030482 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:32 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C012C1622D for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8M0YlGP028126 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:47 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8M0Yl8F028124 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:34:47 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922003447.GA28032@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Repository updated X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:34:33 -0000 This update introduces dependency checking. Before updating other software in this repository, we recommend that you run "conary update conary" first. If you do not have at least Conary 0.10.0, please remember to read http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ConaryConversion To upgrade X, you will need to use the following long command line: # conary update xorg-x11 xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts \ xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts \ xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts \ xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts \ xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts \ xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU xorg-x11-Xnest \ xorg-x11-Xvfb xorg-x11-base-fonts xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts \ xorg-x11-font-utils xorg-x11-libs-data xorg-x11-tools \ xorg-x11-truetype-fonts xorg-x11-twm xorg-x11-xauth \ xorg-x11-xdm xorg-x11-xfs --replace-files You may, of course, leave out any packages that you know you do not need. This command line will be needed only once; it's the result of rebuilding X with our change to build multiple packages from a single recipe, and is analogous to the need to update dev with MAKEDEV once. Chances are good that the provided command line does not work. If it fails, you will have to erase and re-install X. If you do that, make SURE to back up your xorg.conf file first, since currently our only X configuration tool is the installer. (The joys of running alpha software!) # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup # conary erase xorg-x11 run the same long update command as above, then restore the configuration file # cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf Even if the update command line succeeds, X may freeze. We recommend that you save all existing work before attempting to update X. You may at a minimum have to restart xfs after the update. You really want to restart X afterward; you can run # telinit 3; telinit 5 as root in order to do so. (The day of delay in sending this update notice was due to many iterations of testing the X upgrade path...) Due to scripting complications from our repository conversion, this announcement may miss some of the changes. I am also going to leave out new source versions from now on, on the theory that anyone who cares about new source troves is monitoring distro-commits. If you are not doing so yet, now would be a good time to start. New versions/packages: binutils, conary, cyrus-sasl=@spx:cyrus-sasl1, db, gtk, nautilus-cd-burner, openmotif, samba, sharutils, sqlite (required by the new conary and included in the changeset provided on the ConaryConversion page), xorg-x11 (see list of component packages to update together above) As a reward for having read this far: we'll be updating the repository protocol again soon, due to work toward dependency resolution. From ken@biZrace.com Tue Sep 21 23:58:39 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8M3wdVR032176 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:58:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i8M3wsiA028711 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:58:43 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080205010406060601020104" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:58:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080205010406060601020104 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050803040704060705040406" --------------050803040704060705040406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some patches that greatly reduces the boot time, at least as far as getting a gdm login. On my laptop it reduced time from boot -> gdm login from 118 seconds to 32 seconds. It is actually quite simple, apply the attached patches to /etc/inittab and /etc/X11/prefdm. Then create a new file as /etc/sysconfig/prefdm which contains a list of services you want to make sure are started before gdm. It should look like this: WAITFOR="xfs acpid" Just add (or remove) services you want to wait for to that list. You also need to move those services up in the order in /etc/rc5.d, I changed mine to S01xfs for example. On boot it checks to see if those services are started, and if not checks again... until it is either started or 15 seconds passes, then it gives up and starts gdm. Please beat on it, and let me know how it can be improved. Also, please send services you find that are useful to wait for to this list. We will need to go thru and audit the init scripts to get a sane starting point. Have fun and enjoy the fast (appearing) boot! --Ken --------------050803040704060705040406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some patches that greatly reduces the boot time, at least as far as getting a gdm login.  On my laptop it reduced time from boot -> gdm login from 118 seconds to 32 seconds.  It is actually quite simple, apply the attached patches to /etc/inittab and /etc/X11/prefdm.  Then create a new file as /etc/sysconfig/prefdm which contains a list of services you want to make sure are started before gdm.  It should look like this:

WAITFOR="xfs acpid"

Just add (or remove) services you want to wait for to that list.  You also need to move those services up in the order in /etc/rc5.d, I changed mine to S01xfs for example. 

On boot it checks to see if those services are started, and if not checks again... until it is either started or 15 seconds passes, then it gives up and starts gdm.

Please beat on it, and let me know how it can be improved.  Also, please send services you find that are useful to wait for to this list.  We will need to go thru and audit the init scripts to get a sane starting point.

Have fun and enjoy the fast (appearing) boot!

--Ken
 --------------050803040704060705040406-- --------------080205010406060601020104 Content-Type: text/plain; name="inittab.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="inittab.patch" --- /etc/inittab.orig 2004-09-21 23:42:01.321657608 -0400 +++ /etc/inittab 2004-09-21 23:42:11.615092768 -0400 @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4 -l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 +l5:5:once:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6 # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE --------------080205010406060601020104 Content-Type: text/plain; name="prefdm.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="prefdm.patch" --- /etc/X11/prefdm.orig 2004-09-21 21:16:49.000000000 -0400 +++ /etc/X11/prefdm 2004-09-21 23:41:07.234880048 -0400 @@ -34,6 +34,34 @@ fi fi +if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/prefdm ]; then + . /etc/sysconfig/prefdm + wait=($WAITFOR) +fi + +checkwait() { + +if [ ! -f /var/lock/subsys/${wait[$element]} ]; then + return 2 +fi +} + +proceed=0 +while [[ $proceed -lt 1 && $count -lt 60 ]] +do + for element in $(seq 0 $((${#wait[@]} - 1))) + do + if ! checkwait ${wait[$element]} + then + sleep 0.25 + proceed=0 + else + proceed=1 + fi + done + count=`expr $count + 1` +done + if [ -n "$preferred" ] && which $preferred >/dev/null 2>&1; then exec `which $preferred` $* >/dev/null 2>&1 fi --------------080205010406060601020104-- From ken@bizrace.com Wed Sep 22 08:52:18 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MCqHVR019638 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:52:17 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 7BBE55F56B; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:52:34 -0400 Message-ID: <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:52:34 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> In-Reply-To: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:52:18 -0000 We need to wait a little longer in case kudzu needs interaction. So, I think we should bump the wait time to 60 seconds to allow plenty of time. It should not take that long unless hardware has changed, which should be acceptable. So, bump the 60 up to 240 in the for while loop in /etc/X11/prefdm. Let me know what you think, I would like to add this patch to the repository. --Ken Quoting Ken VanDine : > Here are some patches that greatly reduces the boot time, at least as > far as getting a gdm login. On my laptop it reduced time from boot -> > gdm login from 118 seconds to 32 seconds. It is actually quite simple, > apply the attached patches to /etc/inittab and /etc/X11/prefdm. Then > create a new file as /etc/sysconfig/prefdm which contains a list of > services you want to make sure are started before gdm. It should look > like this: > > WAITFOR="xfs acpid" > > Just add (or remove) services you want to wait for to that list. You > also need to move those services up in the order in /etc/rc5.d, I > changed mine to S01xfs for example. > > On boot it checks to see if those services are started, and if not > checks again... until it is either started or 15 seconds passes, then it > gives up and starts gdm. > > Please beat on it, and let me know how it can be improved. Also, please > send services you find that are useful to wait for to this list. We > will need to go thru and audit the init scripts to get a sane starting > point. > > Have fun and enjoy the fast (appearing) boot! > > --Ken > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From ewtlists@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 09:28:33 2004 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifix.com (rdu-nat.specifix.com [24.172.59.42]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MDSWVR022607 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:28:33 -0400 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bradley.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MDRcdG023019 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:27:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by bradley.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i8MDRcFi023015 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:27:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bradley.rdu.specifix.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Troan X-X-Sender: ewt@bradley.rdu.specifix.com To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> Message-ID: References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:37:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:28:33 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Ken VanDine wrote: > We need to wait a little longer in case kudzu needs interaction. So, I think we > should bump the wait time to 60 seconds to allow plenty of time. It should not > take that long unless hardware has changed, which should be acceptable. So, > bump the 60 up to 240 in the for while loop in /etc/X11/prefdm. How about switching VC's to kudzu automatically if it needs interaction rather then an arbitrary timeout? Erik From ken@bizrace.com Wed Sep 22 09:52:05 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MDq5VR024547 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:52:05 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 98DF05F5DA; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: <1095861142.4151839667905@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:52:22 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:52:05 -0000 I like the idea, would that be best done in kudzu? --Ken Quoting Erik Troan : > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Ken VanDine wrote: > > > We need to wait a little longer in case kudzu needs interaction. So, I > think we > > should bump the wait time to 60 seconds to allow plenty of time. It should > not > > take that long unless hardware has changed, which should be acceptable. > So, > > bump the 60 up to 240 in the for while loop in /etc/X11/prefdm. > > How about switching VC's to kudzu automatically if it needs interaction > rather then an arbitrary timeout? > > Erik > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 09:57:48 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MDvlVR025039 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:57:47 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C7516399 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MDw3GP011681 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:58:03 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MDw39F011679 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:58:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:58:03 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922135803.GA11658@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:57:48 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:27:38AM -0400, Erik Troan wrote: > How about switching VC's to kudzu automatically if it needs interaction > rather then an arbitrary timeout? I wanted a timeout of some length so that broken initscript that forgot to create a subsys lock wouldn't block the user from logging in. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 12:51:17 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MGpHVR002928 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:51:17 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CB1164DB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MGpWGP017764 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:51:32 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MGpUu7017762 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:51:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:51:30 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922165130.GA17677@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <1095857554.41517592390f5@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:51:18 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:27:38AM -0400, Erik Troan wrote: > How about switching VC's to kudzu automatically if it needs interaction > rather then an arbitrary timeout? OK, now that I understand the other half of what you were asking... :-) One of the important things that we'll care about kudzu for is when you switch your video card. Mouse and keyboard are no longer much of a big deal; with the 2.6 kernel it's all one input layer anyway... The reason kudzu is a pain is that it does slow probes by default, and those slow probes are for hardware that hardly anyone has any more. Let's disable the slow probes by default at boot time, and let folks run kudzu manually if they add some old serial mouse or whatever is serviced by the slow probes. Then waiting for kudzu is no big deal. From msw@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 12:56:14 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MGuCVR003344 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:56:14 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8233C164DB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MGuSGP018135 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:56:28 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MGuSCH018133 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:56:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:56:28 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:56:14 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:58:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > WAITFOR="xfs acpid" You'll need to add network to the list - otherwise the system's hostname can change from underneath X, and your cookies won't be valid anymore. Also it will break network logins. So you would want to wait for networked filesystems too, for people who use nfs, afs, etc. home directories. Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 13:11:47 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHBkVR004646 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:11:46 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28EC164DB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHC2GP018654 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:12:02 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MHC2fi018652 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:12:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:12:02 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:11:47 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:56:28PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:58:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > > > WAITFOR="xfs acpid" > > You'll need to add network to the list - otherwise the system's > hostname can change from underneath X, and your cookies won't be valid > anymore. Also it will break network logins. So you would want to > wait for networked filesystems too, for people who use nfs, afs, etc. > home directories. I came up with a list of about 8 candidates that need to be on that list. Of course, I sent it on IRC last night and don't have it handy... I'll try to recreate it: acpid amd keytable kudzu netfs network xfs ypbind acpid: At least, battery applet might want it? amd: Home directories mounted keytable: If X depends on keytables being set, or if keytables needs to be run before X starts -- does anyone know? kudzu: X might depend on the results of kudzu having run, such as to deal with a new video card netfs: Like amd, for mounting home directories network: Setting the hostname -- maybe this dependency only applies if the hostname is not localhost.localdomain? X doesn't like it when the hostname changes under it, though. xfs: X wants a font server ypbind: might be needed for login Note that each test has to be conditional on %(initdir)s/$name existing, and the S??$name script existing in the current runlevel, because not all those services might be installed, and even if installed might not be turned on. It's "if this service is installed, it might be needed" and we need a conservative default. From msw@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 13:14:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHEvVR004926 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:14:57 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABA0164DB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHFDGP018785 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:15:13 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MHFD3b018783 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:15:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:15:13 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922171513.GB29638@specifix.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:14:58 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:12:02PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > acpid amd keytable kudzu netfs network xfs ypbind > > amd: > Home directories mounted add autofs From ken@bizrace.com Wed Sep 22 13:16:42 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHGfVR005076 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:16:41 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id B74785F624; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <1095873417.4151b38985d2e@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:16:57 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:16:42 -0000 I have done this on a number of boxes now that use nfs and ypbind for dealing with users and there are no issues. Those services start be the time you could actually type in the login window. If we want to wait for them, they will need to be bumped up in the order. I think we might want to do some renumbering anyway. --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:56:28PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:58:43PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > > > > > WAITFOR="xfs acpid" > > > > You'll need to add network to the list - otherwise the system's > > hostname can change from underneath X, and your cookies won't be valid > > anymore. Also it will break network logins. So you would want to > > wait for networked filesystems too, for people who use nfs, afs, etc. > > home directories. > > I came up with a list of about 8 candidates that need to be on that > list. Of course, I sent it on IRC last night and don't have it handy... > I'll try to recreate it: > > acpid amd keytable kudzu netfs network xfs ypbind > > acpid: > At least, battery applet might want it? > > amd: > Home directories mounted > > keytable: > If X depends on keytables being set, or if keytables needs to > be run before X starts -- does anyone know? > > kudzu: > X might depend on the results of kudzu having run, such as to > deal with a new video card > > netfs: > Like amd, for mounting home directories > > network: > Setting the hostname -- maybe this dependency only applies if > the hostname is not localhost.localdomain? X doesn't like it > when the hostname changes under it, though. > > xfs: > X wants a font server > > ypbind: > might be needed for login > > Note that each test has to be conditional on %(initdir)s/$name existing, > and the S??$name script existing in the current runlevel, because not all > those services might be installed, and even if installed might not be > turned on. It's "if this service is installed, it might be needed" and > we need a conservative default. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 22 13:26:54 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHQsVR005965 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:26:54 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC744164DB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8MHRAGP019179 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:27:10 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8MHRAau019177 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:27:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:27:10 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040922172710.GB18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <4150F873.9050408@biZrace.com> <20040922165628.GA29638@specifix.com> <20040922171202.GA18420@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1095873417.4151b38985d2e@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095873417.4151b38985d2e@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Fast boot patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:26:54 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:16:57PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > I have done this on a number of boxes now that use nfs and ypbind for dealing > with users and there are no issues. Those services start be the time you could > actually type in the login window. If we want to wait for them, they will need > to be bumped up in the order. I think we might want to do some renumbering anyway. I'm absolutely expecting that we will have to renumber. I'm even thinking about adding something to build.py to make it easier to do it, and possibly even policy to enforce it -- "don't add anything that starts earlier than without an explicit exception" From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Sep 23 07:45:23 2004 Received: from in.fer.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NBjNVR025807 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:45:23 -0400 Received: from [10.10.10.115] (gatekeeper.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by in.fer.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F90E20ABA for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4152B743.3020009@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:45:07 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040923 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mozilla patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:45:24 -0000 I have made a patch to the mozilla recipe which updates mozilla from 1.7.0 to 1.7.3. I have also added a small fix for bugzilla bug #217527 which annoys me. 1.7.3 is mostly a bugfix release to 1.7.0, and the patch for bug #217527 is in the mozilla trunk, so I think both are safe. I have used the new package and it looks solid. Any chance of getting this into the repository? Best Regards Geir From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Sep 23 07:48:45 2004 Received: from in.fer.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NBmjVR029840 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:48:45 -0400 Received: from [10.10.10.115] (gatekeeper.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by in.fer.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F176620ABA for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:55:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4152B80F.9000400@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:48:31 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040923 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <4152B743.3020009@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <4152B743.3020009@in.fer.no> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050006070403010604020005" Subject: Re: Mozilla patch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:48:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050006070403010604020005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doh, forgot the patch. Geir Geir Thomassen wrote: > I have made a patch to the mozilla recipe which updates mozilla from > 1.7.0 to 1.7.3. I have also added a small fix for bugzilla bug #217527 > which annoys me. > > 1.7.3 is mostly a bugfix release to 1.7.0, and the patch for bug #217527 > is in the mozilla trunk, so I think both are safe. I have used the new > package and it looks solid. > > Any chance of getting this into the repository? > > Best Regards > > Geir > --------------050006070403010604020005 Content-Type: text/plain; name="mozilla.recipe.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="mozilla.recipe.patch" diff -ruN mozilla.orginal/bugzilla-217527.patch mozilla/bugzilla-217527.patch --- mozilla.orginal/bugzilla-217527.patch 1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100 +++ mozilla/bugzilla-217527.patch 2004-09-23 12:21:53.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,47 @@ +Index: nsBlockFrame.cpp +=================================================================== +RCS file: /cvsroot/mozilla/layout/html/base/src/nsBlockFrame.cpp,v +retrieving revision 3.622 +diff -p -u -1 -2 -r3.622 nsBlockFrame.cpp +--- nsBlockFrame.cpp 23 Apr 2004 19:27:14 -0000 3.622 ++++ nsBlockFrame.cpp 29 Apr 2004 19:54:03 -0000 +@@ -2403,35 +2403,32 @@ nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine(nsBlockReflowSt + aState.SetFlag(BRS_UNCONSTRAINEDWIDTH, oldUnconstrainedWidth); + aState.mSpaceManager->PopState(); + + // Update the line's maximum width + aLine->mMaximumWidth = aLine->mBounds.XMost(); + #ifdef NOISY_MAXIMUM_WIDTH + printf("nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine block %p line %p setting aLine.mMaximumWidth to %d\n", + this, NS_STATIC_CAST(void*, aLine.get()), aLine->mMaximumWidth); + #endif + aState.UpdateMaximumWidth(aLine->mMaximumWidth); + + // Now reflow the line again this time without having it compute +- // the maximum width or max-element-width. +- // Note: we need to reset both member variables, because the inline +- // code examines mComputeMaxElementWidth and if there is a placeholder +- // on this line the code to reflow the float looks at both... +- nscoord oldComputeMaxElementWidth = aState.GetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXELEMENTWIDTH); ++ // the maximum width. ++ // We leave whether to compute max-element-width as-is, because ++ // making this call throws out the previous max-element-width ++ // information stored in the float cache. + nscoord oldComputeMaximumWidth = aState.GetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXWIDTH); + +- aState.SetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXELEMENTWIDTH, PR_FALSE); + aState.SetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXWIDTH, PR_FALSE); + rv = ReflowInlineFrames(aState, aLine, aKeepReflowGoing, aDamageDirtyArea); +- aState.SetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXELEMENTWIDTH, oldComputeMaxElementWidth); + aState.SetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXWIDTH, oldComputeMaximumWidth); + + } else { + rv = ReflowInlineFrames(aState, aLine, aKeepReflowGoing, aDamageDirtyArea); + if (NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) + { + if (aState.GetFlag(BRS_COMPUTEMAXWIDTH)) + { + #ifdef NOISY_MAXIMUM_WIDTH + printf("nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine block %p line %p setting aLine.mMaximumWidth to %d\n", + this, NS_STATIC_CAST(void*, aLine.get()), aLine->mMaximumWidth); + #endif diff -ruN mozilla.orginal/mozilla.recipe mozilla/mozilla.recipe --- mozilla.orginal/mozilla.recipe 2004-07-26 23:55:18.000000000 +0200 +++ mozilla/mozilla.recipe 2004-09-23 12:40:45.000000000 +0200 @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ # preReqs = [ 'fileutils:runtime', 'perl:runtime', 'killall:runtime' ] name = 'mozilla' - version = '1.7' + version = '1.7.3' def setup(r): r.mainDir('mozilla') @@ -21,6 +21,8 @@ r.macros.icondir = '%(mozlib)s/chrome/icons/default' r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla%(version)s/src/mozilla-source-%(version)s.tar.bz2') + r.addPatch('bugzilla-217527.patch', dir='layout/html/base/src', level=0) + for s in ['mozilla', 'mozilla-compose', 'mozilla-mail']: r.addSource(s + '.desktop') r.addSource(s + '-icon.png') --------------050006070403010604020005-- From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Sep 23 11:46:48 2004 Received: from in.fer.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NFklVR007880 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from [10.10.10.115] (gatekeeper.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by in.fer.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5686120ABA for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:53:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4152EFD7.3080507@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:46:31 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040923 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080301030704070102070500" Subject: Firefox patch for 1.0RC X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:46:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080301030704070102070500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ken VanDine asked for a firefox 1.0RC package on IRC this morning. Please apply this to the repository. I have done this with minimal effort, just patching up the absolutely necessary things, but the recipe needs a cleanup. PS: I don't use firefox on a daily basis, so I have no idea if this build is good or not. I would be surprised if this is much worse than the one in the repository though. Have fun Geir --------------080301030704070102070500 Content-Type: text/plain; name="firefox.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="firefox.patch" diff -ruN firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig firefox/dot_mozconfig --- firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig 2004-06-26 00:14:53.000000000 +0200 +++ firefox/dot_mozconfig 2004-09-23 16:17:56.000000000 +0200 @@ -13,13 +13,18 @@ ac_add_options --disable-jsd ac_add_options --disable-ldap ac_add_options --disable-mailnews +ac_add_options --disable-profilesharing +ac_add_options --disable-shared ac_add_options --disable-tests ac_add_options --disable-xprint ac_add_options --enable-crypto -ac_add_options --enable-extensions="default,-irc,-venkman" +ac_add_options --enable-extensions=cookie,xml-rpc,xmlextras,pref,transformiix,universalchardet,webservices,inspector,gnomevfs,negotiateauth ac_add_options --enable-mathml +ac_add_options --enable-optimize ac_add_options --enable-plaintext-editor-only ac_add_options --enable-reorder +ac_add_options --enable-single-profile +ac_add_options --enable-static ac_add_options --enable-strip ac_add_options --enable-strip-libs ac_add_options --enable-xinerama @@ -31,3 +36,6 @@ ac_add_options --without-system-nspr ac_add_options --enable-xft ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit="gtk2" + + + Binary files firefox.orginal/firefox-1.0PR.ccs and firefox/firefox-1.0PR.ccs differ diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe firefox/firefox.recipe --- firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe 2004-08-19 02:54:34.000000000 +0200 +++ firefox/firefox.recipe 2004-09-23 17:07:03.506718984 +0200 @@ -15,19 +15,23 @@ # preReqs = [ 'fileutils:runtime', 'perl:runtime', 'killall:runtime' ] name = 'firefox' - version = '0.9.3' + version = '1.0PR' def setup(r): r.disableParallelMake() r.mainDir('mozilla') - r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox-%(version)s/' - r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox-%(version)s/' - - r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2') + r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox/' + r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox/' + + if(r.version == '1.0PR'): + r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10/firefox-1.0PR-source.tar.bz2') + else: + r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2') + r.addSource('dot_mozconfig', dest='.mozconfig') r.addSource('firefox.desktop') r.addSource('firefox.sh') - r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g;s/-%(version)s//g' firefox.sh") + r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g' firefox.sh") r.addSource('firefox.png') r.Environment('MOZ_APP_NAME', 'firefox') r.Environment('MOZ_PHOENIX', '1') diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.sh firefox/firefox.sh --- firefox.orginal/firefox.sh 2004-08-11 14:48:30.000000000 +0200 +++ firefox/firefox.sh 2004-09-23 16:56:58.353716224 +0200 @@ -72,8 +72,8 @@ #uncomment for debugging #set -x -moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox-0.9.3 -MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-0.9.3 +moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox +MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre # Use run-mozilla.sh in the current dir if it exists # If not, then start resolving symlinks until we find run-mozilla.sh --------------080301030704070102070500-- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 16:53:33 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NKrWVR011780 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:53:32 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AFA16212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NKrmGP014977 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:53:48 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NKrmW0014975 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:53:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:53:48 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:53:33 -0000 We need to implement initscript dependencies. Their lack isn't just a performance thing, it's a correctness thing. "service foo start" should handle dependencies. However, let's start by rearranging the initscripts a bit. I'm concentrating on start numbers for now; I don't actually care very much about the "kill" stop numbers. :-) I've proposed an ordering here that is focussed on getting to allowing prefdm to allow login as soon as possible. It also lets us get rid of the "WAITFOR" hack in initscripts, before it ever gets entrenched. :-) The corrections I'd like would be especially dependencies that I didn't think about between initscripts, where one I've put earlier depends on one that I have moved to start later. First, the bits that might be needed to get to X, with their dependencies: 01 xfs X needs it 03 kudzu If video card has been replaced or network card has been replaced, X might not come up -- network card for hostname setting, see network 05 ip6tables 05 iptables 06 network Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain 08 syslog Wants hostname, everything else wants it 10 acpid battery applet wants it 10 ypbind If needed for login information 10 netfs If home directories mounted manually 12 amd 12 autofs If home directories mounted automatically 12 keytable If X cares about changed keytable setting (I think it does, but I do not know -- can anyone fill in here?) =============================== OK, now we can start X 14 prefdm This signals prefdm that it can go ahead and launch -- if you know that you don't need any of the previous services, you can move it earlier. =============================== 16 microcode_ctl # stuff should be able to BOOT without a microcode update... 16 sysstat 16 irqbalance 16 random 16 sshd 18 dc_server 18 dc_client 19 httpd 22 portmap 23 nfslock We can add conary policy that says "no start values below 25 without an explicit exception" 31 pcmcia 31 apmd The rest we don't touch. 40 smartd 55 cups 56 rawdevices 80 sendmail 80 spamassassin 85 gpm 90 crond 90 xfs 95 anacron 95 atd 97 messagebus 98 haldaemon 99 kdcrotate 99 local From msw@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 17:05:13 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NL5DVR011829 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:05:13 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC016212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NL5UGP015681 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:05:30 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NL5TGe015679 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:05:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:05:29 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:05:13 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 04:53:48PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > We need to implement initscript dependencies. Their lack isn't just > a performance thing, it's a correctness thing. "service foo start" > should handle dependencies. > > However, let's start by rearranging the initscripts a bit. I'm > concentrating on start numbers for now; I don't actually care > very much about the "kill" stop numbers. :-) > > I've proposed an ordering here that is focussed on getting to allowing > prefdm to allow login as soon as possible. It also lets us get rid of > the "WAITFOR" hack in initscripts, before it ever gets entrenched. :-) > > The corrections I'd like would be especially dependencies that I > didn't think about between initscripts, where one I've put earlier > depends on one that I have moved to start later. > > > > First, the bits that might be needed to get to X, with their dependencies: > > 01 xfs > X needs it xfs appears in your "start the rest" list too > 03 kudzu > If video card has been replaced or network card has been replaced, > X might not come up -- network card for hostname setting, see network > > 05 ip6tables > 05 iptables > 06 network > Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain need to do pcmcia around here, for pcmcia networking. > 08 syslog > Wants hostname, everything else wants it > > 10 acpid > battery applet wants it > > 10 ypbind > If needed for login information These have to go here, otherwise the kernel won't be able to register the locking service with portmap and mounting nfs shares will hang. 22 portmap 23 nfslock > 10 netfs > If home directories mounted manually > > 12 amd > 12 autofs > If home directories mounted automatically > > 12 keytable > If X cares about changed keytable setting (I think it does, but > I do not know -- can anyone fill in here?) It does slightly, but normally the xkb configuration overrides the linux keyboard, so it doesn't really matter. Should start messagebus before gdm, since various gnome applets will want to get on dbus. haldaemon might be in the same category. > =============================== > > OK, now we can start X > > 14 prefdm > This signals prefdm that it can go ahead and launch -- if you > know that you don't need any of the previous services, you > can move it earlier. > > =============================== > > > 16 microcode_ctl > # stuff should be able to BOOT without a microcode update... > 16 sysstat > 16 irqbalance > 16 random > 16 sshd > > 18 dc_server > 18 dc_client > 19 httpd > > > We can add conary policy that says "no start values below 25 without > an explicit exception" > > 31 pcmcia > 31 apmd > > The rest we don't touch. > > 40 smartd > 55 cups > 56 rawdevices > 80 sendmail > 80 spamassassin > 85 gpm > 90 crond > 90 xfs > 95 anacron > 95 atd > 97 messagebus > 98 haldaemon > 99 kdcrotate > > 99 local > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From ken@bizrace.com Thu Sep 23 17:14:24 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLEOVR011848 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:14:24 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id B4D3F5F644; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:14:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1095974081.41533cc1835b3@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:14:41 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> In-Reply-To: <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:14:24 -0000 I like it... a couple of notes: pcmcia needs to come before network, this has been a pain for a long time. keytable isn't really needed before X Thanks,' --Ken Quoting Matt Wilson : > On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 04:53:48PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > We need to implement initscript dependencies. Their lack isn't just > > a performance thing, it's a correctness thing. "service foo start" > > should handle dependencies. > > > > However, let's start by rearranging the initscripts a bit. I'm > > concentrating on start numbers for now; I don't actually care > > very much about the "kill" stop numbers. :-) > > > > I've proposed an ordering here that is focussed on getting to allowing > > prefdm to allow login as soon as possible. It also lets us get rid of > > the "WAITFOR" hack in initscripts, before it ever gets entrenched. :-) > > > > The corrections I'd like would be especially dependencies that I > > didn't think about between initscripts, where one I've put earlier > > depends on one that I have moved to start later. > > > > > > > > First, the bits that might be needed to get to X, with their > dependencies: > > > > 01 xfs > > X needs it > > xfs appears in your "start the rest" list too > > > 03 kudzu > > If video card has been replaced or network card has been replaced, > > X might not come up -- network card for hostname setting, see network > > > > 05 ip6tables > > 05 iptables > > 06 network > > Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain > > need to do pcmcia around here, for pcmcia networking. > > > 08 syslog > > Wants hostname, everything else wants it > > > > 10 acpid > > battery applet wants it > > > > 10 ypbind > > If needed for login information > > These have to go here, otherwise the kernel won't be able to register > the locking service with portmap and mounting nfs shares will hang. > 22 portmap > 23 nfslock > > > 10 netfs > > If home directories mounted manually > > > > 12 amd > > 12 autofs > > If home directories mounted automatically > > > > 12 keytable > > If X cares about changed keytable setting (I think it does, but > > I do not know -- can anyone fill in here?) > > It does slightly, but normally the xkb configuration overrides the > linux keyboard, so it doesn't really matter. > > Should start messagebus before gdm, since various gnome applets will > want to get on dbus. haldaemon might be in the same category. > > > =============================== > > > > OK, now we can start X > > > > 14 prefdm > > This signals prefdm that it can go ahead and launch -- if you > > know that you don't need any of the previous services, you > > can move it earlier. > > > > =============================== > > > > > > 16 microcode_ctl > > # stuff should be able to BOOT without a microcode update... > > 16 sysstat > > 16 irqbalance > > 16 random > > 16 sshd > > > > 18 dc_server > > 18 dc_client > > 19 httpd > > > > > > We can add conary policy that says "no start values below 25 without > > an explicit exception" > > > > 31 pcmcia > > 31 apmd > > > > The rest we don't touch. > > > > 40 smartd > > 55 cups > > 56 rawdevices > > 80 sendmail > > 80 spamassassin > > 85 gpm > > 90 crond > > 90 xfs > > 95 anacron > > 95 atd > > 97 messagebus > > 98 haldaemon > > 99 kdcrotate > > > > 99 local > > > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-list mailing list > > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 17:20:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLKwVR011887 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:20:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7916212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLLFGP016077 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:15 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NLLFWC016075 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:21:15 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040923212115.GA15841@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> <1095974081.41533cc1835b3@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095974081.41533cc1835b3@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:20:58 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:14:41PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > pcmcia needs to come before network, this has been a pain for a long time. It shouldn't need to come before network -- it has its own hotplug network settings. What bugs are you seeing here? From tgerla@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 17:22:07 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLM6VR011899 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:22:07 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B32516212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLMOGP016100 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:22:24 -0400 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NLMOPE016098 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:22:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:22:24 -0400 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040923212224.GA21945@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:22:07 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:05:29PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > > Should start messagebus before gdm, since various gnome applets will > want to get on dbus. haldaemon might be in the same category. > Also, messagebus has to start before haldaemon. -Tim From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 17:23:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLNvVR011914 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:23:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860B216212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NLOFGP016176 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:24:15 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NLOFA5016174 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:24:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:24:15 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040923212415.GB15841@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:23:58 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:05:29PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > xfs appears in your "start the rest" list too oops, editing mistake, thanks. > > 06 network > > Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain > > need to do pcmcia around here, for pcmcia networking. Hmm, was thinking that in practice pcmcia networking is generally of the transient sort and therefore shouldn't set the hostname. Does it? > These have to go here, otherwise the kernel won't be able to register > the locking service with portmap and mounting nfs shares will hang. > 22 portmap > 23 nfslock > > > 10 netfs > > If home directories mounted manually Oh, right. Thanks. > > 12 keytable > > If X cares about changed keytable setting (I think it does, but > > I do not know -- can anyone fill in here?) > > It does slightly, but normally the xkb configuration overrides the > linux keyboard, so it doesn't really matter. OK, I'll move it back then. No point in doing anything we don't need to do, and users with weird setups can move them around. They can move them around even more easily once we have initscripts with dependencies in them. :-) > Should start messagebus before gdm, since various gnome applets will > want to get on dbus. haldaemon might be in the same category. OK. Tim, can you comment on haldaemon? From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 18:09:36 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NM9ZVR012045 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:36 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F0316212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NM9qGP018926 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8NM9q6A018924 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:52 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20040923220952.GA17199@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:09:36 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 04:53:48PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I've proposed an ordering here that is focussed on getting to allowing > prefdm to allow login as soon as possible. It also lets us get rid of > the "WAITFOR" hack in initscripts, before it ever gets entrenched. :-) OK, thanks to everyone for their help. The new proposal looks like: First, the bits that might be needed to get to X, with their dependencies: 01 xfs X needs it 01 keytable kudzu might need it 03 kudzu If video card has been replaced or network card has been replaced, X might not come up -- network card for hostname setting, see network 05 ip6tables 05 iptables 05 pcmcia 06 network Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain 08 syslog Wants hostname, everything else wants it 08 portmap 09 nfslock netfs will need it 11 acpid battery applet wants it 11 ypbind If needed for login information 11 netfs If home directories mounted manually 13 amd 13 autofs If home directories mounted automatically 15 messagebus 16 haldaemon desktop apps might want these, and haldaemon wants messagebus =============================== OK, now we can start X 18 prefdm This signals prefdm that it can go ahead and launch -- if you know that you don't need any of the previous services, you can move it earlier. =============================== 20 microcode_ctl # stuff should be able to BOOT without a microcode update... 20 sysstat 20 irqbalance 20 random 20 sshd 22 dc_server 22 dc_client 23 httpd We can add conary policy that says "no start values below 25 without an explicit exception" 31 apmd The rest we don't touch. 40 smartd 55 cups 56 rawdevices 80 sendmail 80 spamassassin 85 gpm 90 crond 95 anacron 95 atd 99 kdcrotate 99 local From ken@biZrace.com Thu Sep 23 19:43:22 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NNhMVR012292 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:43:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i8NNhcNr023612 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41535F9A.7090105@biZrace.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:43:22 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923210529.GA6262@specifix.com> <1095974081.41533cc1835b3@webmail.bizrace.com> <20040923212115.GA15841@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040923212115.GA15841@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080106060003010801040807" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:43:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080106060003010801040807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it isn't always a problem. Hotplug isn't always reliable for wireless cards. Example, my laptop with a 802.11g card that require ndiswrappers doesn't load during hotplug, also my work laptop doesn't load the wireless card either (it is a well supported one). However, my wifes loads fine everytime. So, for the ones that has problems I have been renumbering pcmcia manually and all is well. --Ken Michael K. Johnson wrote: >On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:14:41PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > >>pcmcia needs to come before network, this has been a pain for a long time. >> >> > >It shouldn't need to come before network -- it has its own hotplug >network settings. What bugs are you seeing here? >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifix.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > --------------080106060003010801040807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it isn't always a problem.  Hotplug isn't always reliable for wireless cards.  Example, my laptop with a 802.11g card that require ndiswrappers doesn't load during hotplug, also my work laptop doesn't load the wireless card either (it is a well supported one).  However, my wifes loads fine everytime.  So, for the ones that has problems I have been renumbering pcmcia manually and all is well. 

--Ken


Michael K. Johnson wrote: 
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:14:41PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote:
  
pcmcia needs to come before network, this has been a pain for a long time.
    

It shouldn't need to come before network -- it has its own hotplug
network settings.  What bugs are you seeing here?
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--------------080106060003010801040807-- From ken@biZrace.com Thu Sep 23 19:45:49 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8NNjnVR012313 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:45:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-163-091-077.nc.rr.com [24.163.91.77]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i8NNk5D0003815 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4153602C.4020601@biZrace.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:45:48 -0400 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <4152EFD7.3080507@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <4152EFD7.3080507@in.fer.no> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050601040407020603050709" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Firefox patch for 1.0RC X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:45:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050601040407020603050709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This cooked up fine for me, good job Geir! Geir Thomassen wrote: > Hello > > Ken VanDine asked for a firefox 1.0RC package on IRC this morning. > Please apply this to the repository. > > I have done this with minimal effort, just patching up the absolutely > necessary things, but the recipe needs a cleanup. > > PS: I don't use firefox on a daily basis, so I have no idea if this > build is good or not. I would be surprised if this is much worse than > the one in the repository though. > > Have fun > Geir > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >diff -ruN firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig firefox/dot_mozconfig >--- firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig 2004-06-26 00:14:53.000000000 +0200 >+++ firefox/dot_mozconfig 2004-09-23 16:17:56.000000000 +0200 >@@ -13,13 +13,18 @@ > ac_add_options --disable-jsd > ac_add_options --disable-ldap > ac_add_options --disable-mailnews >+ac_add_options --disable-profilesharing >+ac_add_options --disable-shared > ac_add_options --disable-tests > ac_add_options --disable-xprint > ac_add_options --enable-crypto >-ac_add_options --enable-extensions="default,-irc,-venkman" >+ac_add_options --enable-extensions=cookie,xml-rpc,xmlextras,pref,transformiix,universalchardet,webservices,inspector,gnomevfs,negotiateauth > ac_add_options --enable-mathml >+ac_add_options --enable-optimize > ac_add_options --enable-plaintext-editor-only > ac_add_options --enable-reorder >+ac_add_options --enable-single-profile >+ac_add_options --enable-static > ac_add_options --enable-strip > ac_add_options --enable-strip-libs > ac_add_options --enable-xinerama >@@ -31,3 +36,6 @@ > ac_add_options --without-system-nspr > ac_add_options --enable-xft > ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit="gtk2" >+ >+ >+ >Binary files firefox.orginal/firefox-1.0PR.ccs and firefox/firefox-1.0PR.ccs differ >diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe firefox/firefox.recipe >--- firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe 2004-08-19 02:54:34.000000000 +0200 >+++ firefox/firefox.recipe 2004-09-23 17:07:03.506718984 +0200 >@@ -15,19 +15,23 @@ > # preReqs = [ 'fileutils:runtime', 'perl:runtime', 'killall:runtime' ] > > name = 'firefox' >- version = '0.9.3' >+ version = '1.0PR' > > def setup(r): > r.disableParallelMake() > r.mainDir('mozilla') >- r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox-%(version)s/' >- r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox-%(version)s/' >- >- r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2') >+ r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox/' >+ r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox/' >+ >+ if(r.version == '1.0PR'): >+ r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10/firefox-1.0PR-source.tar.bz2') >+ else: >+ r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2') >+ > r.addSource('dot_mozconfig', dest='.mozconfig') > r.addSource('firefox.desktop') > r.addSource('firefox.sh') >- r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g;s/-%(version)s//g' firefox.sh") >+ r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g' firefox.sh") > r.addSource('firefox.png') > r.Environment('MOZ_APP_NAME', 'firefox') > r.Environment('MOZ_PHOENIX', '1') >diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.sh firefox/firefox.sh >--- firefox.orginal/firefox.sh 2004-08-11 14:48:30.000000000 +0200 >+++ firefox/firefox.sh 2004-09-23 16:56:58.353716224 +0200 >@@ -72,8 +72,8 @@ > #uncomment for debugging > #set -x > >-moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox-0.9.3 >-MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-0.9.3 >+moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox >+MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre > > # Use run-mozilla.sh in the current dir if it exists > # If not, then start resolving symlinks until we find run-mozilla.sh > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifix.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > --------------050601040407020603050709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This cooked up fine for me, good job Geir!

Geir Thomassen wrote:
Hello

Ken VanDine asked for a firefox 1.0RC package on IRC this morning. Please apply this to the repository.

I have done this with minimal effort, just patching up the absolutely necessary things, but the recipe needs a cleanup.

PS: I don't use firefox on a daily basis, so I have no idea if this build is good or not. I would be surprised if this is much worse than the one in the repository though.

Have fun
  Geir 

diff -ruN firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig firefox/dot_mozconfig
--- firefox.orginal/dot_mozconfig	2004-06-26 00:14:53.000000000 +0200
+++ firefox/dot_mozconfig	2004-09-23 16:17:56.000000000 +0200
@@ -13,13 +13,18 @@
 ac_add_options --disable-jsd
 ac_add_options --disable-ldap
 ac_add_options --disable-mailnews
+ac_add_options --disable-profilesharing
+ac_add_options --disable-shared
 ac_add_options --disable-tests
 ac_add_options --disable-xprint
 ac_add_options --enable-crypto
-ac_add_options --enable-extensions="default,-irc,-venkman"
+ac_add_options --enable-extensions=cookie,xml-rpc,xmlextras,pref,transformiix,universalchardet,webservices,inspector,gnomevfs,negotiateauth
 ac_add_options --enable-mathml
+ac_add_options --enable-optimize 
 ac_add_options --enable-plaintext-editor-only
 ac_add_options --enable-reorder
+ac_add_options --enable-single-profile
+ac_add_options --enable-static
 ac_add_options --enable-strip
 ac_add_options --enable-strip-libs
 ac_add_options --enable-xinerama
@@ -31,3 +36,6 @@
 ac_add_options --without-system-nspr
 ac_add_options --enable-xft
 ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit="gtk2"
+
+
+
Binary files firefox.orginal/firefox-1.0PR.ccs and firefox/firefox-1.0PR.ccs differ
diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe firefox/firefox.recipe
--- firefox.orginal/firefox.recipe	2004-08-19 02:54:34.000000000 +0200
+++ firefox/firefox.recipe	2004-09-23 17:07:03.506718984 +0200
@@ -15,19 +15,23 @@
     # preReqs = [ 'fileutils:runtime',  'perl:runtime', 'killall:runtime' ]
 
     name = 'firefox'
-    version = '0.9.3'
+    version = '1.0PR'
 
     def setup(r):
 	r.disableParallelMake()
 	r.mainDir('mozilla')
-	r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox-%(version)s/'
-	r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox-%(version)s/'
-
-	r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2')
+	r.macros.fflib = '%(libdir)s/firefox/'
+	r.macros.ffinc = '%(includedir)s/firefox/'
+        
+        if(r.version == '1.0PR'):
+            r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10/firefox-1.0PR-source.tar.bz2')
+        else:
+            r.addArchive('http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/%(version)s/firefox-%(version)s-source.tar.bz2')
+            
 	r.addSource('dot_mozconfig', dest='.mozconfig')
         r.addSource('firefox.desktop')
         r.addSource('firefox.sh')
-        r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g;s/-%(version)s//g' firefox.sh")
+        r.addAction("sed -i 's/\/usr\/local/\%(prefix)s/g' firefox.sh")
         r.addSource('firefox.png')
 	r.Environment('MOZ_APP_NAME', 'firefox')
 	r.Environment('MOZ_PHOENIX', '1')
diff -ruN firefox.orginal/firefox.sh firefox/firefox.sh
--- firefox.orginal/firefox.sh	2004-08-11 14:48:30.000000000 +0200
+++ firefox/firefox.sh	2004-09-23 16:56:58.353716224 +0200
@@ -72,8 +72,8 @@
 #uncomment for debugging
 #set -x
 
-moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox-0.9.3
-MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-0.9.3
+moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox
+MRE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/mre/mre
 
 # Use run-mozilla.sh in the current dir if it exists
 # If not, then start resolving symlinks until we find run-mozilla.sh
  

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--------------050601040407020603050709-- From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Thu Sep 23 21:52:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8O1qwVR012619 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:52:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4773316212 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8O1rFGP025424 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:53:15 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8O1rFOw025422 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:53:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:53:15 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20040924015315.GA22829@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923220952.GA17199@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923220952.GA17199@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:52:59 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:09:52PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > OK, thanks to everyone for their help. The new proposal looks like: With the exception of amd, which we haven't packaged at this time, the new proposal is implemented in the current set of source components. It won't take effect until we rebuild, and even then it won't take effect without asking chkconfig to remove and re-add the start links, I think. I haven't tested this yet; these components are not yet rebuilt. :-) From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Sep 24 05:02:54 2004 Received: from mail.network-electronics.com (mail.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.55]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8O92sVR014006 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:02:54 -0400 Received: from in.fer.no (photon.network-electronics.com [10.10.10.150]) by mail.network-electronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0342B2641FA for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:03:11 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:02:54 -0000 Starting the network should be delayed, since it is so slow (module loading, + dhcp). Ideally, nothing should be dependent on the network. It is quite common that the network comes and goes, and that the hostname changes without reboots (eg. taking a suspended laptop with you). Can we split the network script in two, one that sets the hostname and starts the lo interface, and another script which starts after GDM that brings up the rest? Geir From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Sep 24 05:04:51 2004 Received: from mail.network-electronics.com (mail.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.55]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8O94oVR014018 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:04:51 -0400 Received: from in.fer.no (photon.network-electronics.com [10.10.10.150]) by mail.network-electronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9E42641FA for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:05:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4153E345.7030701@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:05:09 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:04:51 -0000 Another improvement is to let the user enter her user name and password as soon as possible, and then let her wait until everything is up (NFS, etc) before she is logged in. There are two approaches two this: 1) Hack GDM to not let the user in before the initscripts have run S80let_the users_in. This gives us time to do things like NFS mount /home 2) (Evil plan, I suspect windows is doing this) Run the init scripts at a very high priority (+15) so the user in fact can't do anything useful before the scripts have finished. That gives the user the good old windows feeling: You can log in, but the system is so slow that you can't do anything before everything have started. I am not sure this is a good idea ;-) Geir From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 24 08:59:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8OCxvVR014231 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:59:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF471620B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8OD0FGP006770 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:00:15 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8OD0Fsx006768 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:00:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:00:15 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040924130015.GA6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:59:58 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 11:03:11AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Starting the network should be delayed, since it is so slow (module > loading, + dhcp). > > Ideally, nothing should be dependent on the network. It is quite common > that the network comes and goes, and that the hostname changes without > reboots (eg. taking a suspended laptop with you). > > Can we split the network script in two, one that sets the hostname and > starts the lo interface, and another script which starts after GDM that > brings up the rest? No, the whole point is that on machines that run dhcp, it's bringing up the ethernet interfaces that sets the hostname. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 24 09:00:45 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8OD0jVR014247 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:00:45 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64D31620B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8OD13GP006787 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:01:03 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8OD13Eq006785 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:01:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:01:03 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040924130103.GB6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4153E345.7030701@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4153E345.7030701@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:00:46 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 11:05:09AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > 2) (Evil plan, I suspect windows is doing this) Run the init scripts > at a very high priority (+15) so the user in fact can't do anything > useful before the scripts have finished. That gives the user the > good old windows feeling: You can log in, but the system is so slow > that you can't do anything before everything have started. I am not > sure this is a good idea ;-) Wouldn't really help; it's I/O load, not CPU load, that dominates startup. nice only affects CPU scheduling, not I/O scheduling. From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Sep 24 09:16:59 2004 Received: from mail.network-electronics.com (mail.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.55]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODGxVR014422 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:16:59 -0400 Received: from in.fer.no (photon.network-electronics.com [10.10.10.150]) by mail.network-electronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810D22641FA for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41541E5B.20501@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:17:15 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> <20040924130015.GA6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040924130015.GA6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:16:59 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 11:03:11AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > >>Starting the network should be delayed, since it is so slow (module >>loading, + dhcp). >> >>Ideally, nothing should be dependent on the network. It is quite common >>that the network comes and goes, and that the hostname changes without >>reboots (eg. taking a suspended laptop with you). >> >>Can we split the network script in two, one that sets the hostname and >>starts the lo interface, and another script which starts after GDM that >>brings up the rest? > > > No, the whole point is that on machines that run dhcp, it's bringing up > the ethernet interfaces that sets the hostname. What if I boot the machine, and then plug in the ethernet cable afterwards (which I do regularly on my laptop)? What if I suspend the machine, and brings it to the office, then the hostname changes when I connect it to the office WLAN. Which applications needs the hostname to run? The only one I know of is apache, but apache can be started after the networking is up. Gnome? Geir From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 24 09:26:16 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODQFVR014472 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:26:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E81620B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODQXGP008044 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:26:33 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8ODQX1o008042 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:26:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:26:33 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040924132633.GA8008@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> <20040924130015.GA6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <41541E5B.20501@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41541E5B.20501@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:26:16 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:17:15PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > What if I boot the machine, and then plug in the ethernet > cable afterwards (which I do regularly on my laptop)? What > if I suspend the machine, and brings it to the office, then > the hostname changes when I connect it to the office WLAN. It only changes it if starts out as localhost.localdomain It won't change *again*. And laptops usually have their hostname set precisely because of this problem. Do you really see your hostname changing all the time? I'm not talking DNS. I'm talking hostname(). > Which applications needs the hostname to run? The only one > I know of is apache, but apache can be started after the > networking is up. Gnome? X authentication requires that the machine hostname not change after the cookie is created. From ken@bizrace.com Fri Sep 24 09:28:31 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODSVVR014485 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:28:31 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id CB63D5F5A9; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:28:50 -0400 Message-ID: <1096032530.415421129a285@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:28:50 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4153E2CF.2020305@in.fer.no> <20040924130015.GA6734@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <41541E5B.20501@in.fer.no> <20040924132633.GA8008@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20040924132633.GA8008@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:28:31 -0000 Hostname shouldn't change, the issue is when you don't specify a hostname for dhcp and rely on it getting set by dhcp. Usually a bad idea, I prefer it get set locally. --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:17:15PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > > What if I boot the machine, and then plug in the ethernet > > cable afterwards (which I do regularly on my laptop)? What > > if I suspend the machine, and brings it to the office, then > > the hostname changes when I connect it to the office WLAN. > > It only changes it if starts out as localhost.localdomain > It won't change *again*. > > And laptops usually have their hostname set precisely because > of this problem. > > Do you really see your hostname changing all the time? > > I'm not talking DNS. I'm talking hostname(). > > > Which applications needs the hostname to run? The only one > > I know of is apache, but apache can be started after the > > networking is up. Gnome? > > X authentication requires that the machine hostname not change > after the cookie is created. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Sep 24 09:41:02 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODf1VR014522 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:41:01 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A531620B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ODfJGP008651 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:41:19 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8ODfJXh008649 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:41:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:41:19 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20040924134119.GA8535@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040923205348.GA14902@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20040923220952.GA17199@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040923220952.GA17199@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: boot order proposal X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:41:02 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:09:52PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > OK, thanks to everyone for their help. The new proposal looks like: > 06 network > Hostname setting -- only required if not localhost.localdomain > > 08 syslog > Wants hostname, everything else wants it Oops, messagebus should go here, followed directly by haldaemon 08 messagebus 09 haldaemon desktop apps might want these, and haldaemon wants messagebus Then back to the parallel set with its own interdependencies: > 08 portmap > 09 nfslock > netfs will need it Dependencies will clean this up... From msw@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 29 12:25:27 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8TGPQVR031965 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:25:27 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039FF16399 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8TGPoGP001449 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:25:50 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8TGPo0b001447 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:25:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:25:49 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20040929162549.GA348@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Specifix Linux 0.10 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:25:27 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.10 (ALPHA) is now available. There are some exciting changes in this release. First, this release incorporates Conary 0.10.2. If you haven't followed Conary development, version 0.10.0 introduced dependency checking and resolution. Specifix Linux 0.10 currently has dependency closure for all packages except openoffice.org and perl. These packages have erroneous dependencies that will be fixed soon. Second, it uses the new boot order discussed on the list last week. This gets you to a graphical boot faster, but has the side effect of presenting a text login prompt before init scripts have completed when using runlevel 5. The ISO images include a broken epiphany. The public repository has a fixed version. If you use epiphany run "conary update epiphany" as root after the install is complete. ISO images can be downloaded at: http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.10/ ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.10/ ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.10/ Download it, install it, and send feedback to distro-list@list.specifix.com Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Sep 29 14:24:44 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8TIOiVR000494 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:24:44 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D340816399 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8TIP8GP006064 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:25:08 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i8TIP8ih006062 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:25:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:25:08 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20040929182508.GA6048@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20040929162549.GA348@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040929162549.GA348@specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.10 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:24:44 -0000 On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:25:49PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > The ISO images include a broken epiphany. The public repository has a > fixed version. If you use epiphany run "conary update epiphany" as > root after the install is complete. Galeon is also broken in the ISO images, and can be updated from the public repository in the same way. From andrew@textux.com Thu Oct 7 05:02:51 2004 Received: from exo.phpwebhosting.com (exo.phpwebhosting.com [69.93.122.60]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i9792pVR025514 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 05:02:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 11318 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2004 09:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO landing.pern.lan) (4.26.188.61) by exo.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2004 09:01:18 -0000 From: Andrew McCall To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-RAH7u7+dX+bPrOwtaphQ" Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:59:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1097139587.31983.44.camel@landing> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.0 Subject: Packaging KDE: Notes, Problems, and Recipes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:02:52 -0000 --=-RAH7u7+dX+bPrOwtaphQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is my early work at packaging KDE, and I do not consider these recipes to be finished. As a sidebar, KDE 3.3.1 is due out in the next week or so, and should include fixes for some of the bugs I've found. I haven't had time to get the new Specifix release installed yet, so I don't know if any of these issues are already fixed. Instead of sending out 4/5 emails to the list, I decided to send one long one, as these are all related to the kde recipe writing. Problems with the distribution and KDE 1. libsmbclient: libsmbclient.so is located in /usr/lib/samba/ instead of /usr/lib. Kdebase does not like this, as it has problems linking/finding the library. I'd suggest that libsmbclient.so should be placed in /usr/lib. It appears this is a small packaging problem caused by seperating out all the junk samba wants to put in the /usr/lib directory. 2. autoconf Kdelibs appears to want autoconf 2.58 or better, in order to build. Unfortunately, kde eses autoconf 2.58 while we have autoconf 2.57. Most major distributions have switched to 2.59, but I understand that may be a problem for Specifix, as that might break some builds. It may be working with autoconf 2.57 now, but I won't know for sure until my build tonight is done. (To get kde up and running I used autoconf 2.59, I'm now working on getting 2.57 working.) I think it'd be worth the effort to update to 2.59, as many of the other major distributions(Gentoo, Debian, Fedora) have already done so. 3. php Php is required for kdesdk, and does not appear to be packaged or cooked yet. 4. conary From the "I never thought anyone would try to do that department", theres a small bug in conary, illustrated by kdenetwork. Specifically, conary _REALLY_ doesn't like adding files that have %'s in them to a changeset. This is keeping kdenetwork from being packaged for now. Now, onto the main event, kde recipes! I've attached a .tar.gz file containing all of the recipes. Notes on kde recipes: kdepackage.recipe: * I've seperated out things into two version strings: kde version and actual version. This was done because there is no real relation between the kde version, and the real version of the package. (Witness desparaties in kdevelop, arts, etc...) And there didn't seem to be a way to cleanly macroize the kdeversion from the actual version. * The .la files are required by KDE as they are used by its runtime library loader, without them all sorts of things break in KDE. To get around this problem, the libtool files are included in all KDE packages, for all libraries. kdelibs.recipe: * The file admin.diff belongs to this recipe. The rest is pretty much self explanatory. Things I'm planning on changing: I'd like to place the --disable-debug configure flag into either an internal flag in kdepackage, turned on and off by a variable, or a flag turned on and off by a Use variable(eg: Use.debug). I had some patches to kdebase, but it appears that the new version of KDE should fix the problems I found. I'm still working on making sure that the build dependencies are right. I didn't include kdesdk and kdemultimedia. I understand that kdemultimedia will require the mp3 player to be disabled. I haven't had time to find the best way of doing this yet. This is a Work in progress. 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Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:29:22 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F62B167B2 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 04:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i97BTtGP011170 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:29:55 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i97BTsob011168 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:29:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:29:54 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041007112954.GA10311@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <1097139587.31983.44.camel@landing> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1097139587.31983.44.camel@landing> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Packaging KDE: Notes, Problems, and Recipes X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:29:23 -0000 On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 03:59:47AM -0500, Andrew McCall wrote: > Problems with the distribution and KDE > 1. libsmbclient: > libsmbclient.so is located in /usr/lib/samba/ instead of > /usr/lib. Kdebase does not like this, as it has problems > linking/finding the library. I'd suggest that libsmbclient.so > should be placed in /usr/lib. It appears this is a small > packaging problem caused by seperating out all the junk samba > wants to put in the /usr/lib directory. Fixed in our latest samba sources. > 2. autoconf ... > I think it'd be worth the effort to update to 2.59, as many of > the other major distributions(Gentoo, Debian, Fedora) have > already done so. I think we'll do this rather soon. > 3. php > Php is required for kdesdk, and does not appear to be packaged > or cooked yet. Packaged, and will be cooked shortly. > 4. conary > From the "I never thought anyone would try to do that > department", theres a small bug in conary, illustrated by > kdenetwork. Specifically, conary _REALLY_ doesn't like > adding files that have %'s in them to a changeset. This is > keeping kdenetwork from being packaged for now. Fixed in cvs head. > Now, onto the main event, kde recipes! I've attached a .tar.gz file > containing all of the recipes. Thank you! It looks good. My review is, of course, suggestions for changes, so it might look negative at first glance. It isn't; this is great work. > Notes on kde recipes: > > kdepackage.recipe: > * I've seperated out things into two version strings: kde version > and actual version. This was done because there is no real relation > between the kde version, and the real version of the package. (Witness > desparaties in kdevelop, arts, etc...) And there didn't seem to be a way > to cleanly macroize the kdeversion from the actual version. OK, that's reasonable. One way to do it would be to set the default kdeversion in kdepackage.recipe, and override it only for odd cases where you are building a different version of some kde package on the same (conary) branch as your kdepackage recipe. I.e. if for some reason you had to build, say, kdeedu from kde 3.3 when kdepackage (and thus all the other kde packages) had gone on to kde 3.3.1. I would set macros.kdeversion separately from unpack, in case you ever need to override unpack for a KDE program. > * The .la files are required by KDE as they are used by its runtime > library loader, without them all sorts of things break in KDE. To get > around this problem, the libtool files are included in all KDE packages, > for all libraries. Perfectly reasonable. > Things I'm planning on changing: > I'd like to place the --disable-debug configure flag into either an > internal flag in kdepackage, turned on and off by a variable, or a flag > turned on and off by a Use variable(eg: Use.debug). I'm generally in favor of local use flags for debug, because it means different things for different programs. It's just not consistent enough in my view. > I had some patches to kdebase, but it appears that the new version of > KDE should fix the problems I found. That's good! > I'm still working on making sure that the build dependencies are right. In response to your more specific question on IRC: If build dependency A requires B, only A should go into buildRequires > I didn't include kdesdk and kdemultimedia. I understand that > kdemultimedia will require the mp3 player to be disabled. I haven't > had time to find the best way of doing this yet. Yeah, let's work that out in IRC. > This is a Work in progress. Other comments: Don't do linkerOpts -- we should do that globally, not just for KDE or GNOME or whatever. (I know it was in GNOME; we pulled it out for that reason.) We'll work out the hicolor dependency on IRC. > Kudos to everyone on IRC for putting up with my questions. Naw, kudos to you for doing this. Good work! From msw@specifixinc.com Fri Oct 8 23:05:10 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i99359VR029951 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:05:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F0E167C0 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9935iGP017233 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:05:44 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9935iex017231 for distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:05:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:05:44 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifixinc.com Message-ID: <20041009030544.GA16396@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Specifix Linux 0.11 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:05:10 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.11 (ALPHA) is now available. This release is the first to include a graphical installation. We've only done minimal hardware testing using the GUI installation. i810-based video chipsets definitely do not work. I'm looking on into this since most of our test hardware use i810 chips. Most of the artwork is placeholder. I never claimed to be a graphics designer. The isolinux boot image is especially bad. This will get better in a future release. The gtk deprecation warning messages and bad font in the gui partitioning screen are also known. There are a few new packages in this release. devhelp (online GNOME online developer documentation), libthoera (the open source video codec), urw-fonts, system-config-keyboard, and vino are now included in the distribution. fam has been replaced with gamin. New versions of epiphany, evolution, evolution-dta-server, firefox, gal, gimp, gnome-pythom, gtkhtml, libvorbis, pygtk, and pyorbit are in this release. Please download and enjoy. If you run into problems with the GUI install, or the distribution in general, be sure to email distro-release@lists.specifix.com. Download from a mirror: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.11/ http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.11/ Or from (the slow) main download server: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.11/ Cheers, Matt From chaos@in.fer.no Mon Oct 11 07:52:12 2004 Received: from cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BBqCVR009342 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:52:12 -0400 Received: from in.fer.no (photon.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C3320179 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:52:49 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:52:13 -0000 I don't know if I am opening a can of worms here ... Can I create patches to make Specifix Linux FHS 2.3 compliant and move the data for services provided by the machine into /srv? Rationale: #1 The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) 2.3 says so. #2 I can't confirm this on the net, but I have been told that the /var name is a short for /varying, not /various. Files under /var change all the time so making a good backup of /var is difficult. The "good" backup would be obsolete after a few hours. A one month old backup of /var is just as usable as a 24h old backup. Think about it, lock files, PID files, mail spool (assuming that your mail is moved to ~ when read) are all very volatile, and it does not make sense to back up this every day. /var/www and friends does not fit into this scheme. #3 Conary have got it right. The macro for /var is named %(localstatedir)s #4 Suse does it. Gentoo is discussing it (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html), FedoraFC3 have added the /srv directory. If you don't agree to the idea, please consider adding this (untested) patch to conary (but I would prefer to set the %(servicedatadir) to /srv) Geir --- conary.orginal/build/recipe.py 2004-10-07 15:56:09.000000000 +0200 +++ conary/build/recipe.py 2004-10-11 13:36:31.000000000 +0200 @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ 'essentiallibdir' : '/%(lib)s', 'libexecdir' : '%(exec_prefix)s/libexec', 'localstatedir' : '/var', + 'servicedatadir' : '/var', 'cachedir' : '%(localstatedir)s/cache', 'sharedstatedir' : '%(prefix)s/com', 'includedir' : '%(prefix)s/include', From ken@bizrace.com Mon Oct 11 08:36:20 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BCaKVR010260 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:36:20 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 6F76A5F6B1; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:36:59 -0400 Message-ID: <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:36:59 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:36:20 -0000 Thanks for bringing this up.... I agree completely. It has always bothered and I have always changed it myself. I really can't make any sense out of why it was ever put in /var anyway. And while we are on the subject, why are the mysql databases stored in /var/lib? The databases should be stored in a similar way to the web and ftp service deirectories, imho. Thanks, --Ken Quoting Geir Thomassen : > I don't know if I am opening a can of worms here ... > > Can I create patches to make Specifix Linux FHS 2.3 compliant and > move the data for services provided by the machine into /srv? > > Rationale: > > #1 The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) 2.3 says so. > > #2 I can't confirm this on the net, but I have been told that the > /var name is a short for /varying, not /various. Files under /var > change all the time so making a good backup of /var is difficult. > The "good" backup would be obsolete after a few hours. A one month > old backup of /var is just as usable as a 24h old backup. Think > about it, lock files, PID files, mail spool (assuming that your > mail is moved to ~ when read) are all very volatile, and it does > not make sense to back up this every day. /var/www and friends > does not fit into this scheme. > > #3 Conary have got it right. The macro for /var is named %(localstatedir)s > > #4 Suse does it. Gentoo is discussing it > (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html), FedoraFC3 > have added the /srv directory. > > If you don't agree to the idea, please consider adding this > (untested) patch to conary (but I would prefer to set the > %(servicedatadir) to /srv) > > Geir > > > --- conary.orginal/build/recipe.py 2004-10-07 15:56:09.000000000 +0200 > +++ conary/build/recipe.py 2004-10-11 13:36:31.000000000 +0200 > @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ > 'essentiallibdir' : '/%(lib)s', > 'libexecdir' : '%(exec_prefix)s/libexec', > 'localstatedir' : '/var', > + 'servicedatadir' : '/var', > 'cachedir' : '%(localstatedir)s/cache', > 'sharedstatedir' : '%(prefix)s/com', > 'includedir' : '%(prefix)s/include', > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From ken@bizrace.com Mon Oct 11 10:28:09 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BES9VR010838 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:28:09 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id ACC515F6C0; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:28:46 -0400 Message-ID: <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:28:46 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> In-Reply-To: <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:28:10 -0000 A few more details for what i would like to see. I would like servicedatadir to be /srv. And here is a mapping of how i would like to see the defaults for service apps. /var/www become /srv/www /var/ftp become /srv/ftp /var/lib/mysql become /srv/mysql /var/lib/pgsql become /srv/pgsql /var/spool/mail become /srv/mail (mqueue should stay in /var but spool be in srv) /var/imap become /srv/imap And I am sure there are more. Does this sound reasonable? Thanks, --Ken Quoting Ken VanDine : > Thanks for bringing this up.... I agree completely. It has always bothered > and > I have always changed it myself. I really can't make any sense out of why > it > was ever put in /var anyway. > > And while we are on the subject, why are the mysql databases stored in > /var/lib? > The databases should be stored in a similar way to the web and ftp > service > deirectories, imho. > > Thanks, > --Ken > > Quoting Geir Thomassen : > > > I don't know if I am opening a can of worms here ... > > > > Can I create patches to make Specifix Linux FHS 2.3 compliant and > > move the data for services provided by the machine into /srv? > > > > Rationale: > > > > #1 The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) 2.3 says so. > > > > #2 I can't confirm this on the net, but I have been told that the > > /var name is a short for /varying, not /various. Files under /var > > change all the time so making a good backup of /var is difficult. > > The "good" backup would be obsolete after a few hours. A one month > > old backup of /var is just as usable as a 24h old backup. Think > > about it, lock files, PID files, mail spool (assuming that your > > mail is moved to ~ when read) are all very volatile, and it does > > not make sense to back up this every day. /var/www and friends > > does not fit into this scheme. > > > > #3 Conary have got it right. The macro for /var is named > %(localstatedir)s > > > > #4 Suse does it. Gentoo is discussing it > > (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html), FedoraFC3 > > have added the /srv directory. > > > > If you don't agree to the idea, please consider adding this > > (untested) patch to conary (but I would prefer to set the > > %(servicedatadir) to /srv) > > > > Geir > > > > > > --- conary.orginal/build/recipe.py 2004-10-07 15:56:09.000000000 > +0200 > > +++ conary/build/recipe.py 2004-10-11 13:36:31.000000000 +0200 > > @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ > > 'essentiallibdir' : '/%(lib)s', > > 'libexecdir' : '%(exec_prefix)s/libexec', > > 'localstatedir' : '/var', > > + 'servicedatadir' : '/var', > > 'cachedir' : '%(localstatedir)s/cache', > > 'sharedstatedir' : '%(prefix)s/com', > > 'includedir' : '%(prefix)s/include', > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-list mailing list > > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > > > > > -- > Ken VanDine > biZrace Inc. > http://www.biZrace.com > kvandine@biZrace.com > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Oct 11 10:31:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BEVwVR010862 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:31:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EBB1623E for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BEWZGP021963 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:32:35 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9BEWZur021961 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:32:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:32:35 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041011143235.GA21916@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:31:58 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 01:52:49PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > If you don't agree to the idea, please consider adding this > (untested) patch to conary (but I would prefer to set the > %(servicedatadir) to /srv) Should be %(servicedir)s rather than %(servicedatadir)s -- but yeah, we probably should add that macro, regardless of whether we actually point it at /var or /srv. From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Oct 11 10:42:52 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BEgpVR010894 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:42:51 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1841623E for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BEhSGP022719 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:43:28 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9BEhSXK022717 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:43:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:43:28 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:42:52 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:28:46AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > A few more details for what i would like to see. > > I would like servicedatadir to be /srv. > > And here is a mapping of how i would like to see the defaults for service apps. > > /var/www become /srv/www > /var/ftp become /srv/ftp > /var/lib/mysql become /srv/mysql > /var/lib/pgsql become /srv/pgsql > /var/spool/mail become /srv/mail (mqueue should stay in /var but spool be in srv) > /var/imap become /srv/imap > > And I am sure there are more. Presumably /var/named -> /srv/named -- though would slaves be a symlink into /var? Thoughts? > Does this sound reasonable? If we're going to do this, now is the right time, while we're still in alpha... We'd definitely want compatibility symlinks. The world isn't going to convert to /srv/mail any time soon for looking for mailboxes. From ken@bizrace.com Mon Oct 11 10:58:50 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BEwoVR010935 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:58:50 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id AE5105F567; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:59:29 -0400 Message-ID: <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:59:29 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:58:50 -0000 That is what symlinks are for :-) I agree now is the time, I actually already do this myself. My general thoughts are that nothing that needs backing up goes in /var. --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:28:46AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > A few more details for what i would like to see. > > > > I would like servicedatadir to be /srv. > > > > And here is a mapping of how i would like to see the defaults for service > apps. > > > > /var/www become /srv/www > > /var/ftp become /srv/ftp > > /var/lib/mysql become /srv/mysql > > /var/lib/pgsql become /srv/pgsql > > /var/spool/mail become /srv/mail (mqueue should stay in /var but spool be > in srv) > > /var/imap become /srv/imap > > > > And I am sure there are more. > > Presumably /var/named -> /srv/named -- though would slaves be a symlink > into /var? Thoughts? > > > Does this sound reasonable? > > If we're going to do this, now is the right time, while we're still in > alpha... > > We'd definitely want compatibility symlinks. The world isn't going to > convert to /srv/mail any time soon for looking for mailboxes. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Oct 11 13:49:35 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BHnYVR011278 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:49:34 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89C216242 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BHoCGP029750 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:50:12 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9BHoCKc029748 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:50:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:50:12 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:49:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:59:29AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > That is what symlinks are for :-) The problem is that we don't have the ability right now to change a directory to a symlink in conary. This means that upgrades are going to be a pain. Which really means that y'all are right, and to do this it *really* ought to be during the alpha. It also means that some manual gymnastics will be required to do the upgrade. > I agree now is the time, I actually already do this myself. My general thoughts > are that nothing that needs backing up goes in /var. I back up my mail queue on the theory that undelivered mail shouldn't just go away. But that definitely doesn't belong in /srv. I find it hard to use that metric reliably. You might want named slave files backed up, or you might not. Opinions there? We really need to come up with the entire set of moves that we want to make before doing anything. To consider moving from /var to /srv (so far): spool/mail -> spool/mail (mqueue should stay in /var but spool be in srv) spool/cron -> spool/cron (both files that should be backed up -- personal crontabs -- and temporary files, this one is hard) named -> named (what about slaves?) www -> www ftp -> ftp lib/mysql -> mysql lib/pgsql -> pgsql imap -> imap Other candidates? Did we actually have /var/tftpboot and /var/cvs packaged? From ken@bizrace.com Mon Oct 11 14:04:37 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BI4bVR011481 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:04:37 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 522775F5C4; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:05:16 -0400 Message-ID: <1097517916.416acb5c217c6@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:05:16 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:04:37 -0000 I don't feel slaves need to be backed up. As long as the box is configure to be a proper slave that will heal itself. --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 10:59:29AM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > That is what symlinks are for :-) > > The problem is that we don't have the ability right now to change a > directory to a symlink in conary. This means that upgrades are going > to be a pain. Which really means that y'all are right, and to do this > it *really* ought to be during the alpha. It also means that some > manual gymnastics will be required to do the upgrade. > > > I agree now is the time, I actually already do this myself. My general > thoughts > > are that nothing that needs backing up goes in /var. > > I back up my mail queue on the theory that undelivered mail shouldn't > just go away. But that definitely doesn't belong in /srv. I find it > hard to use that metric reliably. You might want named slave files > backed up, or you might not. Opinions there? > > We really need to come up with the entire set of moves that we want > to make before doing anything. > > To consider moving from /var to /srv (so far): > spool/mail -> spool/mail (mqueue should stay in /var but spool be in > srv) > spool/cron -> spool/cron (both files that should be backed up -- > personal > crontabs -- and temporary files, this one is hard) > named -> named (what about slaves?) > www -> www > ftp -> ftp > lib/mysql -> mysql > lib/pgsql -> pgsql > imap -> imap > > Other candidates? Did we actually have /var/tftpboot and /var/cvs > packaged? > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Mon Oct 11 14:38:01 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BIc1VR011578 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:38:01 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECE316242 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BIcdGP000352 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:38:39 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9BIcdkb000350 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:38:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:38:39 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041011183838.GA32744@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097517916.416acb5c217c6@webmail.bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1097517916.416acb5c217c6@webmail.bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:38:01 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > I don't feel slaves need to be backed up. As long as the box is configure to be > a proper slave that will heal itself. OK, so you want /var/named to be empty except for a slaves directory, and /srv/named to have the master files? From ken@bizrace.com Mon Oct 11 14:43:48 2004 Received: from mail.bizrace.com (eth0.bizrace.com [66.45.101.41] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9BIhmVR011597 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:43:48 -0400 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 868B05F6B1; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com ( [psphinxa.xh1.lilly.com]) as user ken.bizrace.com@web1.bizrace.com by webmail.bizrace.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1097520268.416ad48c4f9c8@webmail.bizrace.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:44:28 -0400 From: Ken VanDine To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097517916.416acb5c217c6@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011183838.GA32744@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041011183838.GA32744@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 40.254.24.8 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:43:49 -0000 That would be my recommendation. --Ken Quoting "Michael K. Johnson" : > On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > > I don't feel slaves need to be backed up. As long as the box is configure > to be > > a proper slave that will heal itself. > > OK, so you want /var/named to be empty except for a slaves directory, > and /srv/named to have the master files? > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > -- Ken VanDine biZrace Inc. http://www.biZrace.com kvandine@biZrace.com From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Oct 12 10:21:55 2004 Received: from cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CELsVR013838 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:21:55 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.49] (unknown [10.0.1.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E27B2019D for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:29:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <416BE8A8.7070303@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:22:32 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040924 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:21:55 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > The problem is that we don't have the ability right now to change a > directory to a symlink in conary. This means that upgrades are going > to be a pain. Which really means that y'all are right, and to do this > it *really* ought to be during the alpha. It also means that some > manual gymnastics will be required to do the upgrade. Do we really need the symlinks? The symlinks confuse users new to linux, and the old ones manage because of the experience. One exception might be the mail spool, but can't we configure postfix to deliver the mail directly to a Maildir in the users home directory? The mqueue is not touched by any program other than postfix, so no symlinks are needed (if we move it to /srv, which might be a bad idea) Most users use POP3 or IMAP4 for mail, so the mail spool isn't important for them. I vote for no symlinks :-) Geir From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Oct 12 10:23:36 2004 Received: from cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CENaVR013862 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:23:36 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.49] (unknown [10.0.1.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C002019D for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <416BE90E.1010309@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:24:14 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040924 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Specifix Distribution Discussion References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097517916.416acb5c217c6@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011183838.GA32744@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041011183838.GA32744@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:23:36 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Ken VanDine wrote: > >>I don't feel slaves need to be backed up. As long as the box is configure to be >>a proper slave that will heal itself. > > > OK, so you want /var/named to be empty except for a slaves directory, > and /srv/named to have the master files? Makes sense to me :-) Geir From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Oct 12 10:29:08 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CET7VR013921 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:29:08 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F45716228 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CETkGP000799 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:29:46 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9CETkKh000797 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:29:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:29:45 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041012142945.GA749@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <416BE8A8.7070303@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <416BE8A8.7070303@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:29:08 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 04:22:32PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Do we really need the symlinks? The symlinks confuse users new to linux, > and the old ones manage because of the experience. Plenty of users have scripts that reference /var/spool/mail We need the symlinks. From ewtlists@specifixinc.com Tue Oct 12 11:09:34 2004 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifix.com (rdu-nat.specifix.com [24.172.59.42]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CF9YVR014058 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:09:34 -0400 Received: from bradley.rdu.specifix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bradley.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CF8mBf006186 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:08:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by bradley.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9CF8lvU006183 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:08:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bradley.rdu.specifix.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Troan X-X-Sender: ewt@bradley.rdu.specifix.com To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20041012142945.GA749@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Message-ID: References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <416BE8A8.7070303@in.fer.no> <20041012142945.GA749@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:09:34 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 04:22:32PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: >> Do we really need the symlinks? The symlinks confuse users new to linux, >> and the old ones manage because of the experience. > > Plenty of users have scripts that reference /var/spool/mail > We need the symlinks. We need a link for this. I doubt we need links for /var/www and such??? Erik From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Oct 12 11:15:15 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CFFFVR014090 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:15:15 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454B416228 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9CFFrGP004085 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:15:53 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9CFFrLn004083 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:15:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:15:53 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041012151553.GA4061@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <416BE8A8.7070303@in.fer.no> <20041012142945.GA749@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:15:15 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:08:47AM -0400, Erik Troan wrote: > We need a link for this. I doubt we need links for /var/www and such??? Oh, right. Just ones likely to be used in scripts, I think. From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Oct 18 10:41:13 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9IEfAVR029826 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:12 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ADB1629F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9IEftGP005261 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:55 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9IEftBs005259 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:55 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041018144155.GA24132@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.12 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:41:13 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.12 (ALPHA) is now available. The release was actually uploaded late last week, but this announcement was delayed. This build mostly consists of package updates. New versions of e2fsprogs, evolution, evolution-data-server, gal, gnome-applets, gnome-games, gtkhtml, libpcap, libsoup, metacity, microcode_ctl, sqlite, xchat, and zlib are included. mdadm is now included to replace raidtools. php is making its first appearance in this release. The system will now boot with the "quiet" kernel option, which makes the booting experience, well, quieter. Please download and enjoy. Be sure to email feedback to distro-release@lists.specifix.com. Download from a mirror: http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.12/ ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.12/ Or from (the slow) main download server: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.11/ Cheers, Matt From msw@specifixinc.com Tue Oct 26 17:16:25 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QLGPVR013461 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:16:25 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65FA1649C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QLHKj5004143 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:17:20 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9QLHKqu004141 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:17:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:17:20 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041026211720.GB28493@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.13 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:16:26 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.13 (ALPHA) is now available. The changes from 0.12 include new upstream versions of conary, conary-gui, gaim, gamin, glib, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-terminal, gtk, hal, lftp, rsync, run, tcpdump, and udev. Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.13 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.13 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.13 We won't be doing another ISO release this week due to some system administration tasks. Look for new ISO images the first week of November. Cheers, Matt From msw@specifixinc.com Mon Nov 1 10:03:23 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA1F3MVR028281 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:03:22 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D980B162D7 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA1F4Oj5013538 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:04:24 -0500 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iA1F4OwF013536 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:04:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:04:24 -0500 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041101150424.GE412@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Upcoming Alpha ISO images X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:03:23 -0000 Although the system administration tasks I spoke about last week have been going well, we've decided to forgo an ISO release this week. We're going to be making some major changes to Conary soon and we may need the rest of the week to get things stabilized. Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Nov 19 10:23:09 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAJFN8UJ026351 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:23:09 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C151622F for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAJFN6j5029747 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:23:06 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iAJFN5xV029745 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:23:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:23:05 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041119152305.GA29566@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.14 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:23:09 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.14 (ALPHA) is now available. We have been working primarily on changes to Conary over the past few weeks. We delayed announcing 0.14 because as soon as it was released you already needed to read the http://wiki.specifix.com/ConaryConversion web page to be able to talk to the repository, and we hoped to have 0.15 out soon to rectify that. We still expect to have 0.15 out soon, but in the meantime 0.14 is still a better bet to install than 0.13... Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.14 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.14 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.14 From msw@specifixinc.com Tue Nov 23 17:42:30 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iANMgUUJ015484 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:30 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B62162C4 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iANMgRj5011840 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:27 -0500 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iANMgRaP011838 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:27 -0500 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.15 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:42:31 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.15 (ALPHA) is now available. This version includes new upstream versions of conary, conary-gui autoconf, eel, epiphany, firefox, foomatic, gimp, gnome-vfs, httpd, libgnomecups, libwnck, libxml2, nautilus, pygtk, subversion, udev, and wireless-tools. gnome-cups-manager is included for the first time. Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.15 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.15 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.15 ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.15 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.15 Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Dec 3 17:02:02 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3M22Qv017383 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:02:02 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D0516211 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3M1wj5008993 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:01:58 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB3M1w2k008991 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:01:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:01:58 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:02:02 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) is now available. This is the first version built following some internal infrastructure changes. These changes mean that every package in the distribution has been rebuilt. It also means a few new bugs. Oh, well. This is the first release to include KDE (thanks to Andrew McCall for doing the initial KDE packaging!). We have a new an much improved version of inkscape, and lots of security updates. Known issues: o su is not setuid (to fix, log in as root, chmod u+s /bin/su) o ntsysv is missing (to fix, conary update ntsysv) o The distribution release file is still version 0.15. Oops, sorry. You will probably find more. Please tell us about them! We'll do better next week! Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Fri Dec 3 17:26:13 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3MQDQv017887 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:26:13 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2498F162A2 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3MQ9j5010065 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:26:09 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB3MQ92V010061 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:26:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:26:09 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041203222609.GA9653@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:26:13 -0000 On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 05:01:58PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > o su is not setuid (to fix, log in as root, chmod u+s /bin/su) Actually, *nothing* is setuid. This is not a coreutils problem, it appears to be a bug in Conary. We're investigating. From fedora64@leaper.linuxtx.org Fri Dec 3 17:24:59 2004 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-24-1-16-159.client.comcast.net [24.1.16.159]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3MOwQv017873 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:24:58 -0500 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB3MOuhL028690 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:24:56 -0600 Received: (from fedora64@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iB3MOuWO028689 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:24:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:24:56 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041203222456.GA28044@linuxtx.org> References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:30:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:24:59 -0000 On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 05:01:58PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Known issues: > o su is not setuid (to fix, log in as root, chmod u+s /bin/su) chmod u+s /bin/mount chmod u+s /bin/ping chmod u+s /bin/ping6 chmod u+s /bin/traceroute chmod u+s /bin/traceroute6 chmod u+s /bin/umount chmod u+s /usr/bin/at chmod u+s /usr/bin/chage chmod u+s /usr/bin/chfn chmod u+s /usr/bin/chsh chmod u+s /usr/bin/crontab chmod u+s /usr/bin/gpasswd chmod u+s /usr/bin/lppasswd chmod u+s /usr/bin/newgrp chmod u+s /usr/sbin/userhelper chmod u+s /usr/sbin/usernetctl Thanks, Justin From ken@bizrace.com Fri Dec 3 17:31:58 2004 Received: from trend.Silverbackasset.com (66-194-221-242.gen.twtelecom.net [66.194.221.242]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iB3MVwQv017988 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:31:58 -0500 Received: from 192.168.40.2 by trend.Silverbackasset.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:31:56 -0500 Thread-Index: AcTZh+TDx3DIUlvvS3G4o/71GkRh7g== Received: from [192.168.40.150] ([192.168.40.150]) by server1.Silverbackasset.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: <41B0E95A.1090601@bizrace.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:31:54 -0500 From: "Ken VanDine" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Specifix Distribution Discussion" References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20041203222609.GA9653@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041203222609.GA9653@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: normal Priority: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2004 22:31:55.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4A1FC50:01C4D987] Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:31:58 -0000 Does that mean we should wait for 0.17? Michael K. Johnson wrote: >On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 05:01:58PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > >> o su is not setuid (to fix, log in as root, chmod u+s /bin/su) >> >> > >Actually, *nothing* is setuid. This is not a coreutils problem, it >appears to be a bug in Conary. We're investigating. >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifix.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, do not review, retransmit, disclose, disseminate, use, or take any action in reliance upon, this information. If you received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and destroy all printed copies and delete the material from all computers. From fedora64@leaper.linuxtx.org Fri Dec 3 17:36:31 2004 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-24-1-16-159.client.comcast.net [24.1.16.159]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB3MaUQv018016 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:36:31 -0500 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB3MaTwY028934 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:36:29 -0600 Received: (from fedora64@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iB3MaTNj028933 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:36:29 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:36:29 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041203223629.GB28044@linuxtx.org> References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20041203222609.GA9653@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <41B0E95A.1090601@bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41B0E95A.1090601@bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.16 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:36:31 -0000 On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 05:31:54PM -0500, Ken VanDine wrote: > Does that mean we should wait for 0.17? I don't really think so. easier to keep up with updates when you don't have every package showing as needing an update due to the rebuild. The changes which are needed to fix 0.16 take about 2 minutes. Justin From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Dec 7 16:40:23 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB7LeNQv022036 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:40:23 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5104D162C5 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB7LeInE010863 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:40:18 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB7LeIVb010861 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:40:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:40:18 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041207214018.GA10646@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:40:23 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 01:50:12PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > To consider moving from /var to /srv (so far): ... > spool/cron -> spool/cron (both files that should be backed up -- personal > crontabs -- and temporary files, this one is hard) Is anyone else doing this? Seems low-benefit, and a questionable case. I don't like the idea of moving it, frankly. > named -> named (what about slaves?) Pure sysadmin. > lib/mysql -> mysql Sysadmin, but defaults changed. > lib/pgsql -> pgsql > imap -> imap We don't package postgresql or cyrus. Other than that, I think that the recipe changes are mostly made. We still have to decide where the /var/spool/mail symlink goes, and a few more programs that know about /var/spool/mail need to be modified, but the recipe modifications are mostly done. From ken@bizrace.com Tue Dec 7 16:55:17 2004 Received: from trend.Silverbackasset.com (66-194-221-242.gen.twtelecom.net [66.194.221.242]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iB7LtHQv022064 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:55:17 -0500 Received: from 192.168.40.2 by trend.Silverbackasset.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:55:13 -0500 Thread-Index: AcTcp22MXHqPs1aARqusxdOtD1SH3g== Received: from [192.168.40.150] ([192.168.40.150]) by server1.Silverbackasset.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:55:12 -0500 Message-ID: <41B626C0.1090904@bizrace.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:55:12 -0500 From: "Ken VanDine" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Specifix Distribution Discussion" References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20041207214018.GA10646@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20041207214018.GA10646@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Importance: normal Priority: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2004 21:55:12.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D724130:01C4DCA7] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.specifix.com id iB7LtHQv022064 Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:55:17 -0000 Great news, I guess I should get on cyrus and postgres soon :-) Thanks, --Ken Michael K. Johnson wrote: >On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 01:50:12PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > >>To consider moving from /var to /srv (so far): >> >> >... > > >> spool/cron -> spool/cron (both files that should be backed up -- personal >> crontabs -- and temporary files, this one is hard) >> >> > >Is anyone else doing this? Seems low-benefit, and a questionable case. >I don't like the idea of moving it, frankly. > > > >> named -> named (what about slaves?) >> >> > >Pure sysadmin. > > > >> lib/mysql -> mysql >> >> > >Sysadmin, but defaults changed. > > > >> lib/pgsql -> pgsql >> imap -> imap >> >> > >We don't package postgresql or cyrus. > > >Other than that, I think that the recipe changes are mostly made. >We still have to decide where the /var/spool/mail symlink goes, >and a few more programs that know about /var/spool/mail need to >be modified, but the recipe modifications are mostly done. >_______________________________________________ >distro-list mailing list >distro-list@lists.specifix.com >http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Tue Dec 7 17:07:20 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB7M7JQv022109 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:07:20 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE97B162C5 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB7M7EnE012007 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:07:14 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB7M7EDq012005 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:07:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:07:14 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041207220714.GA11933@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <416A7411.5000907@in.fer.no> <1097498219.416a7e6b3541e@webmail.bizrace.com> <1097504926.416a989e7acb0@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011144328.GA22425@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <1097506769.416a9fd17d233@webmail.bizrace.com> <20041011175012.GA28490@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <20041207214018.GA10646@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <41B626C0.1090904@bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41B626C0.1090904@bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Moving /var/{www,ftp,tftpboot,cvs} to /srv X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:07:21 -0000 On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 04:55:12PM -0500, Ken VanDine wrote: > Great news, I guess I should get on cyrus and postgres soon :-) We haven't changed the definition of servicedir yet -- wanted to get all the recipes ready first. And dealing with the mail spool will require manual surgery once we do change the definition of servicedir. From elliot@bentlogic.net Tue Dec 7 17:28:16 2004 Received: from mail.dulug.duke.edu (annapurna.linux.duke.edu [152.3.183.71]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB7MSGQv022194; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:28:16 -0500 Received: from 192.168.1.200 (rdu57-78-208.nc.rr.com [66.57.78.208]) by mail.dulug.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104FABC197; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:28:11 -0500 (EST) From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Q2JFolSpBkRtliUMpacN" Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:28:10 -0500 Message-Id: <1102458490.2734.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Cc: mirror-list@lists.specifix.com Subject: mirror.physics.ncsu.edu X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:28:16 -0000 --=-Q2JFolSpBkRtliUMpacN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is mirroring off of mirror.physics.ncsu.edu they should switch to ftp.linux.ncsu.edu. Elliot --=20 Elliot Peele --=-Q2JFolSpBkRtliUMpacN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBti55mSqoIAXFTXMRAoQ4AJ9024cLrItEKvXyqvwXa+LoCGeYngCfahe/ FMewdL2m0CQ5ropXHt6Asi4= =0ZVx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Q2JFolSpBkRtliUMpacN-- From ken@bizrace.com Wed Dec 8 07:10:50 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB8CAoQv024023 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 07:10:50 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-024-211-210-069.nc.rr.com [24.211.210.69]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id iB8CAikc024140 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41B6EF46.3010608@bizrace.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 07:10:46 -0500 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Gripes about 0.16 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:10:51 -0000 There are some kde apps as defaults. Ark is the default archive tool and KGhostview is the default pdf/ps reader. Is this the direction we are headed? Or is the just a "bug". I really prefer to keep defaults GNOME with the ability to run KDE apps. --Ken From tgerla@specifixinc.com Wed Dec 8 09:41:49 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB8EfmQv024288 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:41:49 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8C51648B for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 06:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB8EfgnE032307 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:41:42 -0500 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB8EfgVx032305 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:41:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:41:42 -0500 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041208144142.GA32290@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <41B6EF46.3010608@bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41B6EF46.3010608@bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Gripes about 0.16 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 14:41:49 -0000 On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:10:46AM -0500, Ken VanDine wrote: > There are some kde apps as defaults. Ark is the default archive tool > and KGhostview is the default pdf/ps reader. Is this the direction we > are headed? Or is the just a "bug". I really prefer to keep defaults > GNOME with the ability to run KDE apps. > > --Ken Nope, that's a bug. If you're in the GNOME desktop, GNOME apps should be preferred. I'll look into it and see if I can track down the problem. Thanks, -Tim From johnnymikeaz@yahoo.com Wed Dec 8 17:51:48 2004 Received: from web53610.mail.yahoo.com (web53610.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.43]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iB8MpmQv025497 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:51:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 20343 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Dec 2004 22:51:43 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=E0dHU7Z8aqBeozkcqt6cVoWJHKK/J8lXWxK9A2DSb9aXW+cQn2O50tnOd0fvsntT9fhMkyGzclOb4yTGr5iQ8dHUjLlUccV4q5igG9BiRat2KDCtZXLGFdD8ph21R7QIzYTn/1az6/Iu+IeqwCCrfZl5uI8XgrOVKpzyVjQHmvY= ; Message-ID: <20041208225143.20341.qmail@web53610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.176.110.221] by web53610.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 14:51:43 PST Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: John McCarvel To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <41B6EF46.3010608@bizrace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Gripes about 0.16 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:51:48 -0000 I totally agree... --- Ken VanDine wrote: > There are some kde apps as defaults. Ark is the > default archive tool > and KGhostview is the default pdf/ps reader. Is > this the direction we > are headed? Or is the just a "bug". I really > prefer to keep defaults > GNOME with the ability to run KDE apps. > > --Ken > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Sat Dec 11 06:37:58 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBBBbvQv003787 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:37:58 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC5D1648B for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBBBbonE027411 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:37:50 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBBBbo1r027409 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:37:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:37:50 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041211113750.GA27261@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20041123224227.GA6509@specifix.com> <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041203220158.GA8399@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.17 (ALPHA) available. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:37:58 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.17 (ALPHA) is now available. We fixed the bugs noted for the 0.16 release, updated several packages, particularly GNOME packages, to latest upstream version, and made several changes to packages that won't be very visible yet but will become visible later. We modified packages that need to know about servicedir, which we can then change to /srv to comply with the latest FHS; this is a recipe change that will not show up in the binaries until we change the definition of servicedir. We also changed recipes to make it easier to change to Python 2.4 in the future. We added a few more requirements, as well. Lastly, we have started to move files from :runtime components to :lib components as necessary to ensure that dependency resolution works more reliably. We'll be doing a lot of this in the future. (N.B: This last item means that at least for now, some updates will have to be done with --replace-files if you are updating rather than installing the new version.) Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.16 From david.coulthart@gmail.com Sun Dec 19 19:55:17 2004 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBK0tGQv022919 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:55:16 -0500 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so120959rnf for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:55:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IDAiK1nogoljawmBOOM9APo1R6xL/po+APcodDnoHOrpVfXSD/NHWxcpBJU57FyxQPsn8h0s8b5Vd/RSB1u3O71qM9LjAaABME8zIRAS3COYld/3QYOgNZY8mziXdjflixHvENINi2wIEjUswMGzgxhqhy64m18cdlDthiHc0o8= Received: by 10.39.2.61 with SMTP id e61mr915075rni; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.6 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:55:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c6f91c30412191655ed27759@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:55:07 -0500 From: David Coulthart To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1888_5496918.1103504107488" Subject: Updates to microcode_ctl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Coulthart , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:55:17 -0000 ------=_Part_1888_5496918.1103504107488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Throughout my testing of the Specifix Distro (starting around 0.15), I was continually receiving an error on startup relating to the microcode loader: microcode: error! Bad data in microcode data file microcode: Error in the microcode data After poking for a while, I think this is because the patch included in the repository (which looks like it was derived from RH's patch to microcode_ctl) is missing a change o remove an "&" to correspond with changing a variable from a static array to a pointer. In the process, I also updated microcode_ctl to the latest upstream release (1.11) and pulled the latest version of the init script from RH's recently public Fedora Core CVS. The updated init scripts include fixes to allow i18n, remove dependencies on /usr (i.e., use sort -u instead of head -1), and to only perform the update on 686+ processors since microcode updates are unsupported on <=586. I had to fix a slight bug in RH's 686+ check, so I'll be opening up a bug with them so they can incorporate that fix, too. I'm guessing there's some cool way to make this patch available in a repository that can be pulled within conary, but I'm familiar with submitting patches created with diff, so hopefully this is acceptable for a first-timer. I'm also attaching the microcode_ctl.patch as a separate file instead of including it in the diff, since a diff of a patch is very hard to make sense of IMHO. Next on my list is figuring out why X seems to have some major display issues on my test machine (widgets don't get properly refreshed/lots of the screen is black in both GNOME & KDE); why my machine locks hard when launching X during a graphical install (yet works fine with a FC3 install); and why I've been getting a kernel oops when cups starts up. :-/ Suggestions/feedback welcome. 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Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:14:52 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA13169DD for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBK1EfnE012221 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:14:41 -0500 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBK1EfNX012219 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:14:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:14:41 -0500 From: Tim Gerla To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041220011441.GA12143@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <4c6f91c30412191655ed27759@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c6f91c30412191655ed27759@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Updates to microcode_ctl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:14:53 -0000 On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 07:55:07PM -0500, David Coulthart wrote: > > In the process, I also updated microcode_ctl to the latest upstream > release (1.11) and pulled the latest version of the init script from > RH's recently public Fedora Core CVS. The updated init scripts > include fixes to allow i18n, remove dependencies on /usr (i.e., use > sort -u instead of head -1), and to only perform the update on 686+ > processors since microcode updates are unsupported on <=586. I had to > fix a slight bug in RH's 686+ check, so I'll be opening up a bug with > them so they can incorporate that fix, too. > Hi, I've applied your patches and tested this out on my system. Looks like it worked fine, so I've committed to the repository and will show up in the next distro release. Thanks! > I'm guessing there's some cool way to make this patch available in a > repository that can be pulled within conary, but I'm familiar with > submitting patches created with diff, so hopefully this is acceptable > for a first-timer. I'm also attaching the microcode_ctl.patch as a > separate file instead of including it in the diff, since a diff of a > patch is very hard to make sense of IMHO. > You could theoretically host a repository with a branched version of microcode_ctl with your changes, but the way you've submitted this is just fine. It applied cleanly and made sense to me. Your video card problems are known--hopefully we'll find a fix soon. We have a couple of test machines that show the same behavior, so it's not just you. Thanks again for the patches, -Tim From david.coulthart@gmail.com Wed Dec 22 00:37:16 2004 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBM5bGQv029915 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:37:16 -0500 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so102759rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:37:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kwH3+N8YJrXB7XV7IbRLfPI7GRFh99DRsUlvZnoAO0quyP1sy6VbriToPANw5B5JofbkGY5+tHPXsZlqbtFnXaPNs+ohjh+jsrPsA+jY0OinZa5DVPdwubXNliz9yiK3D09zw3wxVqZEvYK7WOV6aKS7F+06EsfO8f1tSOEV9A8= Received: by 10.38.101.74 with SMTP id y74mr40362rnb; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.6 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:37:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c6f91c304122121374c221ca5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:37:05 -0500 From: David Coulthart To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_696_5958136.1103693825035" Subject: updates to tftp X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Coulthart , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:37:16 -0000 ------=_Part_696_5958136.1103693825035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Looking for another small package to update (after deciding xorg was a bit too much to bite off quite yet & tar's lack of inclusion of a default manpage was going to frustrate my perfectionism), I stumbled across tftp. Since I've actually set up tftp & even submitted a patch to hpa for it (0.40 is all my fault ;-) I figured I could handle this one. I noticed Specifix was using its SRPM helper stuff to "borrow" from Fedora. But really the only reason to use Fedora's SRPM was because they included a default xinetd config file for the tftp server. As of tftp-hpa-0.39, however, hpa has included this config file in the tarball. So, yet another bug to file with RH b/c of updates to Specifix. :-) The only thing of importance I noticed was this message when I did "cvc cook tftp.recipe": + excluding empty directory /tftpboot Comparatively, the files section for the server in RH's tftp specfile has the following line: %dir /tftpboot Some explanation on the appropriate handling of this for conary would be appreciated. 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Christian" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20041222153932.GD32438@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: updates to tftp X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:39:46 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:37:05AM -0500, David Coulthart commented: > Looking for another small package to update (after deciding xorg was a > bit too much to bite off quite yet & tar's lack of inclusion of a > default manpage was going to frustrate my perfectionism), I stumbled > across tftp. Hmmm...I have a man page for tar in my installation of 0.18... > The only thing of importance I noticed was this message when I did > "cvc cook tftp.recipe": > > + excluding empty directory /tftpboot > > Comparatively, the files section for the server in RH's tftp specfile > has the following line: > > %dir /tftpboot > > Some explanation on the appropriate handling of this for conary would > be appreciated. Ah, you have wondered into the wonderful world of package policy. We use policy to keep our packages from doing obviously wrong things -- such as putting non-executable files in bin directories, e.g., or having world-writable files, etc. Currently, there are two types of policy: ones that modify the destination directory, and ones that affect how the package is created without modifying the destination directory. You can look at policies that modify files in the destination directory in http://cvs.specifix.com/conary-docs/private/conary.build.destdirpolicy-module.html Normally, you'd be able to look at more policy which affects how the files are packaged in http://cvs.specifix.com/conary-docs/private/conary.build.packagepolicy-module.html, but it seems that an error in epydoc documentation is keeping it from being rendered currently. We'll try to get that fixed today. ExcludeDirectores is a piece of package policy. It automatically tells conary not to bother to package directories if they have mode 0755. You want to override that policy, so you would specify in the recipe r.ExcludeDirectories(exceptions='/tftpboot') After making that change and associating the /tftpboot directory with the tftpboot-server package, I have applied your patch. Thanks for your help! David > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.specifix.com > http://lists.specifixinc.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list ----- End forwarded message ----- From david.coulthart@gmail.com Wed Dec 22 12:42:14 2004 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBMHgDQv001100 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:13 -0500 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1631rnf for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:41:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XB+ibIdgxVVNqto9InpBu+7ENLXUjV2A6/3JCNizm65GGfbTTPIOtFWhCcy3WVKnhpjupjZ/3b5Tdm2zTaqey1uv/OU0Tzh6aeB8HUC/b0pYbryBddMt98bV5xPZCnUYxkttsWVXA4arxTyL4vQI5ZZmZSivyu2XD9puh4MKeWc= Received: by 10.39.3.19 with SMTP id f19mr312194rni; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.6 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c6f91c3041222094153605885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:41:59 -0500 From: David Coulthart To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20041222153932.GD32438@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222153932.GD32438@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> Subject: Re: updates to tftp X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Coulthart , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:42:14 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:39:33 -0500, David B. Christian wrote: > Hmmm...I have a man page for tar in my installation of 0.18... I'm guessing you mean your installation of tar 0.13.25, with the man page coming from 0.13.18. As best I can tell the man page comes from a patch RH includes in their RPM for tar. If you build tar directly from source from GNU, it only includes info pages. Since the current version of tar is 0.15.1, I was worried the man page would be out of sync with reality, and I really have no experience hacking on man pages. At 11 PM, I decided I'd tackle something a bit simpler & save that for a weekend project. Thx for the documentation pointers on package policy. Understanding those pages may take me a little while, and I tend to be better at understanding things by looking at examples, but I'm sure they'll be a handy reference when I poke some more recipes. Thx, David Coulthart From johnsonm@specifixinc.com Wed Dec 22 13:45:08 2004 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBMIj8Qv001199 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:45:08 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA87164DA for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBMIitnE006251 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:55 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBMIitdL006249 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:55 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20041222184455.GA6153@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> References: <20041222153932.GD32438@lambchop.rdu.specifixinc.com> <4c6f91c3041222094153605885@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c6f91c3041222094153605885@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: updates to tftp X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:09 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:41:59PM -0500, David Coulthart wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:39:33 -0500, David B. Christian wrote: > > Hmmm...I have a man page for tar in my installation of 0.18... > > I'm guessing you mean your installation of tar 0.13.25, with the man > page coming from 0.13.18. I think David meant Specifix Linux 0.18. As you point out, that tar man page is an add-on. From chaos@in.fer.no Sun Jan 2 16:48:17 2005 Received: from cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j02LmEQv027086 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:48:17 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.45] (unknown [10.0.1.45]) by cd9088fe3.sdsl.catch.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5432013C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:57:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41D86C8B.6050706@in.fer.no> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:50:03 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com References: <200412250411.iBP4B2TB025924@conary-commits.specifix.com> In-Reply-To: <200412250411.iBP4B2TB025924@conary-commits.specifix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipw2100:source /contrib.specifix.com@spx:linux/1.0.2-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:48:17 -0000 Apache wrote: > 1.0.2-1 Ken VanDine (ken@vandine.org) Fri Dec 24 23:15:37 2004 > Not sure if the is the best fix, but this change bypasses hotplug for loading firmware. It works much better for me. Now you will need to put your firmware in /etc/firmware. > > It no longer fails on first load. > Oh, I forgot to tell... The reason the firmware load fails on the first attempt is that the is_available() function in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions disables hotplug before loading modules. I have no idea why it does so. I have commented out that code (a long time ago), and it just works. All ethernet cards that needs firmware (or other hotplug support) will fail with the current networking scripts. BTW: Have anyone tried the "/etc/net" scripts from http://pilot.org.ua/etcnet/ ? Geir Thomassen From johnsonm@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com Mon Jan 3 10:32:29 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j03FWTQv029411 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:32:29 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55ED164EF for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 07:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j03FWCfb001045 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:32:12 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j03FWC0f001043 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:32:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:32:12 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050103153212.GA954@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: emacs updates X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:32:29 -0000 Depending on which version of the distribution you installed, you might have an emacs-el package on your system. Before you next update emacs, do "conary erase emacs-el" to avoid conflicts. From andrew@textux.com Wed Jan 5 01:04:10 2005 Received: from exo.phpwebhosting.com (exo.phpwebhosting.com [69.93.122.60]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j05649Qv005212 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:04:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 17636 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2005 06:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (4.26.188.61) by exo.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2005 06:03:39 -0000 Message-ID: <41DB8246.7000603@textux.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:59:34 -0600 From: Andrew McCall User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000702070501080309040300" Subject: Gnome/KDE file associations X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 06:04:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000702070501080309040300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since KDE has been added, there's been the unfortunate side-effect of some KDE programs running in GNOME undesireably. (Eg: double-clicking a pdf file launches kpdf instead of gpdf.) Links (Skip ahead for a summary): [1]-http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=282281 [2]-https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=131643 [3]-http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-kde-list/2000-November/msg00025.html [4]-http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng/file-associations.html To summarize: 1. Gnome uses /usr/share/applications/defaults.list to pick programs to run, and in its absence picks seemingly randomly, causing KDE programs to be run sometimes instead. 2. KDE uses InitialPreference, an entry in the .desktop files, to determine the file association, the highest number entry in all the .desktop files gets the program Currently, without a defaults.list file, gnome is essentially picking at random what to use in association with a file when double-clicked, be it kde or gnome programs. Now, with a defaults.list file, it's possible to tell gnome where to go for different file types. As KDE uses a different system(and will until/if freedesktop.org adopts defaults.list as a standard), it would appear, to me at least, that the best course of action is to create a standard defaults.list that uses all gnome applications, and drop that in a package that's grouped with gnome. I've tested this on my system, and to my pleasure, I now have gnome running just gnome apps, and kde running being itself. hehe. I've started a defaults.list that I've attached to this e-mail... I think we should look at this carefully... Slide this into /usr/share/applications and things should work. The downside, depending on how you look at it, is that if you are running Gnome, and click on a file that has no association you might end up with a KDE application running. If there are no associated GNOME apps at all, but there are KDE apps, you will definately have a KDE app run. (Vice-Versa also applies.) --------------000702070501080309040300 Content-Type: text/plain; name="defaults.list" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="defaults.list" [Default Applications] image/bmp=eog.desktop image/gif=eog.desktop image/jpeg=eog.desktop image/jpg=eog.desktop image/pjpeg=eog.desktop image/png=eog.desktop image/tiff=eog.desktop image/x-bmp=eog.desktop image/x-gray=eog.desktop image/x-icb=eog.desktop image/x-ico=eog.desktop image/x-png=eog.desktop image/x-portable-anymap=eog.desktop image/x-portable-bitmap=eog.desktop image/x-portable-graymap=eog.desktop image/x-portable-pixmap=eog.desktop image/x-psd=eog.desktop image/x-xbitmap=eog.desktop image/x-xpixmap=eog.desktop application/x-core=bug-buddy-core.desktop application/x-arj=file-roller.desktop application/x-bzip=file-roller.desktop application/x-bzip-compressed-tar=file-roller.desktop application/x-compress=file-roller.desktop application/x-compressed-tar=file-roller.desktop application/x-gtar=file-roller.desktop application/x-gzip=file-roller.desktop application/x-lha=file-roller.desktop application/x-lhz=file-roller.desktop application/x-rar=file-roller.desktop application/x-rar-compressed=file-roller.desktop application/x-tar=file-roller.desktop application/x-zip=file-roller.desktop application/x-zip-compressed=file-roller.desktop application/zip=file-roller.desktop multipart/x-zip=file-roller.desktop application/x-rpm=file-roller.desktop application/x-jar=file-roller.desktop application/x-java-archive=file-roller.desktop application/x-lzop=file-roller.desktop application/x-zoo=file-roller.desktop application/x-cd-image=file-roller.desktop application/pdf=gpdf.desktop application/postscript=ggv.desktop text/plain=gedit.desktop --------------000702070501080309040300-- From johnsonm@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com Wed Jan 5 09:10:02 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05EA1Qv007216 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:10:01 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA9A16A0E for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 06:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05E9hfb003163 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:09:43 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j05E9hVo003161 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:09:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:09:42 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050105140942.GA1663@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <41DB8246.7000603@textux.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41DB8246.7000603@textux.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Gnome/KDE file associations X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:10:02 -0000 On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:59:34PM -0600, Andrew McCall wrote: > I've started a defaults.list that I've attached to this e-mail... I > think we should look at this carefully... Slide this into > /usr/share/applications and things should work. Thank you! Good work! I think we should probably deal with this by allowing each application to express its preference, and build this file using tag handlers as applications are installed. The easiest way to do this is to install snippets of this file in a directory, and have the taghandler just do cat /path/to/snippets/directory/* > /usr/share/applications/defaults.list whenever it is called. From msw@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com Wed Jan 5 10:48:37 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05FmaQv007815 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:48:37 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013C216A0E for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05FmEfb006989 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:48:14 -0500 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j05FmEZR006987 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:48:14 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <200501051548.j05FmEZR006987@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:45:58 -0500 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050105154558.GA6648@specifix.com> References: <20050103153212.GA954@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050103153212.GA954@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Resent-From: msw@specifix.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:48:14 -0500 Resent-To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Subject: Re: emacs updates X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:48:37 -0000 On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 10:32:12AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Depending on which version of the distribution you installed, you > might have an emacs-el package on your system. Before you next > update emacs, do "conary erase emacs-el" to avoid conflicts. The path I took on my system left me with: emacs 21.3-7-1 emacs-el:emacs 21.3-2-1 emacs-el:runtime 21.3-2-1 emacs-leim:runtime 21.3-2-1 emacs:doc 21.3-7-1 emacs:emacs 21.3-7-1 emacs:runtime 21.3-7-1 This goes back to when emacs-el:{emacs,runtime} were a part of the emacs package. Therefore I had to run: conary erase emacs-el:emacs emacs-el:runtime Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com Wed Jan 5 14:15:32 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05JFWQv008650 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:15:32 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2929E164DA for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05JFEfb014482 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:15:14 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j05JFEUo014480 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:15:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:15:14 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050105191514.GA14460@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.19 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:15:33 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.19 is now available, and changes include: * Conary 0.12.1, which requires Python 2.4 and adds lots of feature capabilities. * Python 2.4, and all packages which require a specific version of Python have also been updated. * Postgresql is now included, and php is built with php-mysql and php-pgsql packages that contain the bindings for mysql and postgresql, respectively. * The Gimp was upgraded to 2.2.0. * The kernel was updated to 2.6.10. * OpenOffice.org now installs menu entries. * The emacs:emacs component no longer exists, and the emacs-el package has been replaced by the emacs:elisp component. * A few packages were added that accidentally fell out of several of the past few releases, such as vorbis-tools and dhclient. Please remember that Specifix Linux is still Alpha software. Download from a mirror site: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.19 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.19 ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.19 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.19 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.19 From johnsonm@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com Wed Jan 5 16:05:06 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05L55Qv009147 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:05:06 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC42167C2 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j05L4mfb018811 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:04:48 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j05L4ll7018809 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:04:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:04:47 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050105210447.GA18578@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <41DB8246.7000603@textux.com> <20050105140942.GA1663@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050105140942.GA1663@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Gnome/KDE file associations X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:05:06 -0000 On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:09:42AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I think we should probably deal with this by allowing each application > to express its preference, and build this file using tag handlers as > applications are installed. The easiest way to do this is to install > snippets of this file in a directory, and have the taghandler just do > cat /path/to/snippets/directory/* > /usr/share/applications/defaults.list > whenever it is called. Actually, I realized that GNOME applications have desktop files that include a line that matches '^Categories:.*GNOME', so I've added handling for the defaults.list file to the desktop-file taghandler. It doesn't require the snippets directory, and in fact requires no changes to any gnome applications. The next installation of desktop-file-utils should magically make the defaults.list file be fully and correctly populated, and from then on it should be managed correctly. (Well, there's an intentional bug/tradeoff mentioned in the taghandler, but I don't think anyone will care.) This demonstrates nicely the power of Conary taghandlers. :-) One tiny update to one file, and lots of existing packages just magically begin to function correctly. Thanks again for bringing defaults.list to our attention! From johnsonm@specifix.com Mon Feb 7 20:37:34 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j181bYQv023962 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:37:34 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0212916775 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j181b2fb023105 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:37:02 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j181b2sq023103 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:37:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:37:02 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050208013702.GA22418@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Updating xorg-x11 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:37:34 -0000 We recently re-packaged X, reducing the set of packages drastically. However, it makes it a bit difficult to update. The easiest way is, I believe: conary update ttmkfdir cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 conary q | grep xorg-x11 | grep -v ':' | sed 's/ .*//g' > /tmp/xpkgs conary erase --no-deps --just-db $(cat /tmp/xpkgs) conary update --replace-files xorg-x11 xorg-x11-{tools,fonts,xfs} cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf If you get a segmentation fault from ttmkfdir during the update, you can fix up after it by running: ttmkfdir -d /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF -o /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.scale This process takes quite a while! For what it's worth, this kind of upgrade problem should go away once we have redirects (soonish). We would have been able to redirect the obsolete packages to the appropriate new packages, and simply running conary update on all the packages together would have updated everything. (It would also have been solved, in practice, by the proper group handling that is also due to be implemented soonish; simply updating group-dist would have had the same effect, even without redirects.) From johnsonm@specifix.com Tue Feb 8 13:37:34 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j18IbXQv028778 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:37:34 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF891679A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j18Ib1fb015434 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:37:01 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j18Ib1ch015432 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:37:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:37:01 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050208183701.GA15414@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.21 (ALPHA) available X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:37:34 -0000 Every package in the entire distribution has been rebuilt. We had to rebuild everything anyway because we changed to storing all our sources in the repository (a move long planned but only recently implemented, for various trivial reasons). In addition, rebuilding means that the packages all have "trove info", including size, the source trove from which they are built, time they were built, and the version of Conary that built them (view this information with conary rq --info). Lastly, this rebuild incorporates the new LSB /srv directory for things that used to be in /var but are local information that is permanent in character. Please see the full announcement at: http://www.specifix.com/blogs/index.php?blog=5&title=specifix_linux_0_21_alpha_available Please visit one of our friendly mirror sites to fetch your copy: ftp://mirror.physics.ncsu.edu/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.21 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.21 ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/specifix/linux/alpha/0.21 http://download.specifix.openwebmail.org/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.21 Or the main site: ftp://download.specifix.com/pub/specifix/linux/alpha/0.21 From yeliab@gmail.com Fri Feb 11 22:09:06 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1C396Qv020251 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:09:06 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so276315wri for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=D9LDLJL3KFlks+/yYUQYI58DlfjnI5ZSt8k1gE0RTRXWj5fUvJhEA1JOmkh08W7fD+IeGhIhnqp8VyRLTkafBdeR8ZF1P6YCST7Izhg8umcxq8L93I4jxxPuo8V+EOb6ardKC/hcXoKVx4er04btWKiJcH/A92KRUFjmHkl3/ic= Received: by 10.54.17.71 with SMTP id 71mr276234wrq; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.44 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:08:34 -0500 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:09:07 -0000 Hello all, Over the course of the past couple of months I've spent playing with Conary and Specifix Linux, I've come to realize that there appears to be a real problem regarding Conary and how the kernels are packaged. I originally mentioned this on IRC a week or so ago, but have come to realize that, unlike my original concern (how a typical user could identify which kernel-related file corresponded with which version of the kernel trove) the problem appears to go deeper than that. The crux of the issue revolves around two issues: o Conary seems to have no mechanism for dealing with the situation where multiple versions of the same trove are installed at the same time (and have file sets that are not entirely disjoint) o The set of files in any given kernel trove is not guaranteed to be disjoint from all other kernel troves Since it's always wise to keep a known-bootable kernel installed when upgrading to a newer kernel, these issues present problems: o You can just do a 'conary update kernel' and hope that the new kernel will be bootable o You can do a 'conary update --keep-existing kernel' and never erase any of the older kernel troves (at least I think that would work -- I did this and then tried erasing the older trove once and was left without a vmlinuz file, so that's not an option) Given this, it seems to me that there are two ways to address this issue: o Create a "last resort" kernel trove with a file set completely disjoint from the "normal" kernel troves, and keep that around in case 'conary update kernel' results in an unbootable configuration o Revamp the kernel recipe to ensure that each kernel's file set is completely disjoint from all others The first solution to me seems overly hackish; that leaves the second solution. This should be doable -- for instance, add a timestamp string to the files/directories for each version of the trove. Ideal would be a way of adding the trove's binary and source counts, but based on the IRC conversation that I started it appears that's not possible. I realize that doing something like this effectively changes every kernel changeset into an absolute one, which really sucks (particularly for a fairly hefty trove like the kernel) but given my admittedly incomplete knowledge of Conary I can't see any way around it... Thoughts, anyone? Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From ken@bizrace.com Tue Feb 15 06:54:37 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101] (may be forged)) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FBsbQv014284 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:54:37 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (cpe-069-133-144-145.nc.rr.com [69.133.144.145]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j1FBrged026810 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:53:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4211E2C5.6090209@bizrace.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:53:41 -0500 From: Ken VanDine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060202030605070906090108" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: [Fwd: crash when installing Specifixb] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:54:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060202030605070906090108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone seen this problem? Thanks, --Ken --------------060202030605070906090108 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="crash when installing Specifixb" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="crash when installing Specifixb" Return-Path: Received: from mail.bizrace.com ([unix socket]) by mail.bizrace.com (Cyrus v2.1.9) with LMTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:17:58 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix, from userid 33346) id 401225F59B; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from basil.hostbusters.be (basil.hostbusters.be [207.44.178.101]) by mail.bizrace.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5A25F4B1 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 145-132.244.81.adsl.skynet.be ([81.244.132.145] helo=192.168.2.5) by basil.hostbusters.be with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.44) id 1D0xtr-00004r-7L for ken@vandine.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:17:39 +0100 Subject: crash when installing Specifixb From: Lode Vermeiren Reply-To: lode@linu.cx To: ken@vandine.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RDwazfCcOunZGip8CQzs" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:17:35 +0100 Message-Id: <1108455455.11623.1.camel@t23.linu.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - basil.hostbusters.be X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vandine.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - linu.cx X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on web1.bizrace.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: --=-RDwazfCcOunZGip8CQzs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ken, i'm very interested in trying out Foresightlinux. I downloaded and checked the isos for Specifix. Near the end of the installation the anaconda installer crashes while installing xmlto. It gives an error about FileCopyException in ConaryInstaller.py, leaving the system in an unusable state. This happens in both text and graphical mode. Do you know what's up with that? Best regards, Lode --=-RDwazfCcOunZGip8CQzs Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ken,

i'm very interested in trying out Foresightlinux. I downloaded and checked the isos for Specifix.  Near the end of the installation the anaconda installer crashes while installing xmlto. It gives an error about FileCopyException in ConaryInstaller.py, leaving the system in an unusable state. This happens in both text and graphical mode. Do you know what's up with that?

Best regards,
Lode --=-RDwazfCcOunZGip8CQzs-- --------------060202030605070906090108-- From johnsonm@specifix.com Tue Feb 15 08:38:00 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FDbxQv014509 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:37:59 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8962C16797 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FDbPfb021651 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:37:25 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1FDbOhK021649 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:37:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:37:24 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050215133724.GA21223@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <4211E2C5.6090209@bizrace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4211E2C5.6090209@bizrace.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: [Fwd: crash when installing Specifixb] X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:38:00 -0000 On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 06:53:41AM -0500, Ken VanDine wrote: > Has anyone seen this problem? The text of the exception might have helped. :-) It is possible for the media check step to not notice problems with slightly questionable media, when a linear read is fine but the drive gets confused when seeking. (I'm assuming that "checked" means the media check from within the installer, not just checking an MD5 or SHA1.) Certainly, we installed quite a few systems with 0.21, and while some were network installs, I know I installed at least one system from CD images. I would suggest burning new images, and if that does not work, perhaps burning them with a different brand of media and/or a different drive if possible. Alternatively: I've never tried installing onto a partition that is not large enough to hold our distribution, so I have no idea what exception it throws, so I can't rule it out, especially considering that the packages get installed in alphabetical order, and xmltex is pretty late. We do not yet have disk space checking implemented... So I'd check on disk space (since that's easiest to check) and probably reburning the second disc (where xmltex is) and if that doesn't do it, getting the text of the exception. From johnsonm@specifix.com Tue Feb 15 18:33:04 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FNX4Qv016844; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:33:04 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E15316A17; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FNWTfb009284; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:32:29 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1FNWT5B009282; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:32:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:32:29 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com, conary-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050215233228.GA9233@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: The Great Renaming X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:33:04 -0000 We are in the process of instituting the new naming conventions described at http://wiki.specifix.com/ReleaseManagementStructure I suggest that you not try to build anything tonight (Tuesday night EST) until we have finished the conversion. When the conversion is finished, we will remove the warnings from the http://wiki.specifix.com/ConaryConversion page that warn you not to update yet. Summary of the renaming: @spx:linux becomes @spx:devel Thanks for your patience. From johnsonm@specifix.com Tue Feb 15 19:02:21 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1G02LQv016985; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:02:21 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E4D16A17; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1G01kfb010555; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:01:46 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1G01jri010553; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:01:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:01:45 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com, conary-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050216000145.GA10530@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050215233228.GA9233@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050215233228.GA9233@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Re: The Great Renaming X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:02:21 -0000 On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 06:32:29PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > When the conversion is finished, we will remove the warnings from the > http://wiki.specifix.com/ConaryConversion page that warn you > not to update yet. That went more quickly than I anticipated. Please feel free to update now. From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 09:00:18 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OE0IQv014220 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:00:18 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E2F16A6A for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1ODxefb001780 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:59:40 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1ODxdFj001778 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:59:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:59:39 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:00:18 -0000 We followed up on IRC, but not here, and I think this might clarify some of the IRC discussion anyway. I've been thinking on and off about this issue for about as long as we've had a kernel trove... On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 10:08:34PM -0500, Edward C. Bailey wrote: > o Create a "last resort" kernel trove with a file set completely > disjoint from the "normal" kernel troves, and keep that around in > case 'conary update kernel' results in an unbootable configuration > > o Revamp the kernel recipe to ensure that each kernel's file set is > completely disjoint from all others As you noted, the build count is simply not available at build time; it's assigned by the repository after the build has been completed. This means that the "serial number" in the kernel recipe is the mechanism to use to create disjoint file sets. In practice, it's actually going to be quite rare that you'll have multiple builds of the same flavor, thus creating a different build count, and thus merely bumping the "serial number" when modifying the kernel recipe would solve this problem for the case where you want each kernel to be entirely disjoint. The right answer might depend on the goals of the particular distribution being built. For the development stream, having (practically) all the kernel version be 100% disjoint might be the right option. Just always bumping the serial number... For some distributions, a "last resort" kernel on a different branch or shadow might be a better option. The last resort kernel branch could even be a shadow that is updated to follow the kernel, except that it bumps the "serial number" each time in order to stay disjoint. In that case, it could serve a double purpose -- it could be a testing kernel and a fallback kernel. o If you merely want a fallback kernel, you never touch that shadow, and merely update the main kernel, keeping the fallback for recovery. o If you want a staging/testing kernel, you could test each new version by installing the latest version on the testing/lastresort shadow, using --keep-existing. Then if the test succeeded, you would have that kernel as the "last resort" to fall back on, and you could update the main kernel to the parallel version built from the same source but with the serial number not bumped. The cool thing here is that the choice of how to use the shadow would be entirely the system administrators, if the shadow was kept updated in this way. Maintaining the shadow would of course entail a little bit of human time and double the computer time needed, but if customers wanted to pay for that capability, it would certainly be technically possible to provide it. There might be some third option I haven't thought of, something involving magic in the kernel taghandler to save old initrds and changed modules and have a rescue capability, probably optionally selected by some configuration file. I'm not sure what this would look like, so it would be hard to say if we would have to extend the taghandler api to support it -- but if we do have to extend it, we did design the api to be extensible. I'm open to suggestions in this area. And, for that matter, any other suggested ways to mitigate this issue... From fedora64@leaper.linuxtx.org Thu Feb 24 09:59:30 2005 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-24-1-16-159.client.comcast.net [24.1.16.159]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OExUQv014352 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:59:30 -0500 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1OEwr4D030051 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:58:53 -0600 Received: (from fedora64@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j1OEwnKK030050 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:58:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:58:49 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:59:30 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:59:39AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > The right answer might depend on the goals of the particular > distribution being built. For the development stream, having > (practically) all the kernel version be 100% disjoint might be the > right option. Just always bumping the serial number... > I think this might be a good idea, as much as I hate having to manually bump something with every change, I do not see a better option. > For some distributions, a "last resort" kernel on a different > branch or shadow might be a better option. The last resort kernel > branch could even be a shadow that is updated to follow the kernel, > except that it bumps the "serial number" each time in order to > stay disjoint. In that case, it could serve a double purpose -- > it could be a testing kernel and a fallback kernel. > I can see two sides to this. Assuming standard goals for a distribution, I see two real paths: Stable: The distribution is stable for enterprise use. Any changes are simply backported and well tested. In this instance, it would seem that there is no need to bump serial since there should rarely if ever be any major changes. On the other hand, most people in the enterprise are not so keen on replacing a known good kernel with one that they have not tested. Particularly if there is not a simple backout plan. With this in mind, it would seem that the ability for concurrent installs would be more important than shorter download times for a changeset. Bleeding Edge: Okay, maybe not so bloody, but these are the distro customers who want to stay up to date with the latest changes upstream. They want their software to move with the rest of the world, but also want the stability of a tested distribution. For these people, the chances of a kernel change is a bit more likely, but odds are there will be a version bump. I can see the standard builds do not bump serial as acceptable here. Though a shadow might be nice for the rare instance that the kernel is rebuilt without a version bump. > > There might be some third option I haven't thought of, something > involving magic in the kernel taghandler to save old initrds and > changed modules and have a rescue capability, probably optionally > selected by some configuration file. I'm not sure what this would > look like, so it would be hard to say if we would have to extend > the taghandler api to support it -- but if we do have to extend it, > we did design the api to be extensible. I'm open to suggestions > in this area. And, for that matter, any other suggested ways to > mitigate this issue... This seems like a very good solution to the problem, if the tag handler could copy the kernel to vmlinuz-version.extraver-last or something, and keep a grub entry for it, that would at least make it safe for people to back out of the current kernel if things do not work out. In this scenario I would only expect one -last per kernel version, so that could simplify things. Just an idea. Justin From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 11:05:37 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OG5bQv014539 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:05:37 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5234A16A77 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OG4xfb007115 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:04:59 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1OG4xBk007113 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:04:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:04:59 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224160458.GA5715@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:05:37 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:58:49AM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > This seems like a very good solution to the problem, if the tag handler > could copy the kernel to vmlinuz-version.extraver-last or something, and > keep a grub entry for it, that would at least make it safe for people to > back out of the current kernel if things do not work out. In this scenario > I would only expect one -last per kernel version, so that could simplify > things. Just an idea. I guess vmlinuz and initrd :-) And yeah, only one -last per kernel version -- if it ever worked, it should keep working. And we'd have to figure out when a version goes away entirely; that would take some magic in the taghandler. One problem this doesn't solve is the "some critical module not in the initrd was broken" -- for example, maybe an update breaks e1000 for only one card rev, and that's not in the initrd, so after the update there's no functional e1000 driver, and that's their only network interface on the machine, which makes it hard to get back the functional driver. Well, rollbacks could almost solve that problem -- except that we've been talking about changing rollbacks to not store information that can be fetched back from the repository. I think we were talking about making that optional; to make it optimal we'd want a list of exceptions: do not store rollback information that can be fetched from the repository EXCEPT for kernel. But even then, rollbacks have to be applied in precise reverse order, and any updates after the kernel update would have to be rolled back before the kernel, and if any of those needed contents from the repository, they would fail. It might make sense to make backup copies of the modules mentioned in either of /etc/modprobe.conf or /proc/modules when we're backing up the vmlinuz and initrd. That should pretty much cover at least the truly critical essentials. And, of course, we need to make sure that these things get cleaned up somehow. From fedora64@leaper.linuxtx.org Thu Feb 24 12:01:47 2005 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-24-1-16-159.client.comcast.net [24.1.16.159]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OH1kQv014880 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:01:47 -0500 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1OH1kXu032074 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:01:46 -0600 Received: (from fedora64@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j1OH1k0t032073 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:01:46 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:01:46 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224170146.GA31955@linuxtx.org> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> <20050224160458.GA5715@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050224160458.GA5715@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:01:47 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:04:59AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:58:49AM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > > I guess vmlinuz and initrd :-) > We could actually copy everything, but I do not think it is necessary, the kernel will most likely be able to load the new modules, and if those happen to be broken, at least you should have enough to roll-back or install a different version. I think if there is a failure, it is more likely that people will replace the bad kernel than try to fix it. > It might make sense to make backup copies of the modules mentioned > in either of /etc/modprobe.conf or /proc/modules when we're backing > up the vmlinuz and initrd. That should pretty much cover at least > the truly critical essentials. > That would be an easy way. Make sure we are not copying too much. You will still have to load them by hand, but they are there. > And, of course, we need to make sure that these things get cleaned > up somehow. Taghandler on remove can pull a -last if it is actually removing the version on which the last is based? Justin From yeliab@gmail.com Thu Feb 24 13:18:34 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OIIXQv015092 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:18:33 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so161318wri for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:18:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oK4upX0rFBKYga+jTUZJqD5mmNXZFzU1rdEAQ4r98/fWObIftj1h6h4tafKTqILDoxISzV7mtcu9j/isuwOhLh+TJPDw+59ZZRjf78yq9T2LaQxUVOR0fAudaHbWwAnaTGmYJRyZCEFP6UWe1ae2igew5KWZ0J3JJqpl0KYtPx0= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr15874wra; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.44 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:18:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:18:31 -0500 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:18:34 -0000 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:59:39 -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > As you noted, the build count is simply not available at build time; > it's assigned by the repository after the build has been completed. > This means that the "serial number" in the kernel recipe is the > mechanism to use to create disjoint file sets. In practice, it's > actually going to be quite rare that you'll have multiple builds Having recently been bitten by this very situation, I cringe at the thought of a solution based the assumption that it will be "quite rare;" after all, it wasn't rare for me... :-) > of the same flavor, thus creating a different build count, and thus > merely bumping the "serial number" when modifying the kernel recipe > would solve this problem for the case where you want each kernel to > be entirely disjoint. My viewpoint is that you *always* want each kernel to be entirely disjoint, but then, you knew that already... :-) > For some distributions, a "last resort" kernel on a different > branch or shadow might be a better option. The last resort kernel > branch could even be a shadow that is updated to follow the kernel, > except that it bumps the "serial number" each time in order to > stay disjoint. In that case, it could serve a double purpose -- > it could be a testing kernel and a fallback kernel. An interesting viewpoint on the concept... > The cool thing here is that the choice of how to use the shadow > would be entirely the system administrators, if the shadow was > kept updated in this way. Of course, the bad thing here is that the choice of how to use the shadow would be entirely the system administrators' -- meaning some will "get it", and some won't (with the predictable results). > There might be some third option I haven't thought of, something > involving magic in the kernel taghandler to save old initrds and > changed modules and have a rescue capability, probably optionally > selected by some configuration file. I'm not sure what this would > look like, so it would be hard to say if we would have to extend > the taghandler api to support it -- but if we do have to extend it, > we did design the api to be extensible. I'm open to suggestions > in this area. And, for that matter, any other suggested ways to > mitigate this issue... Perhaps there is some potential in this line of thought; I lack the Conary internals knowledge to understand what is and is not possible in this area. I will be honest, though. Unless the solution, by whatever method, keeps the known-good kernel and all its modules completely intact after a newer kernel is installed, there *will* be corner cases where systems will become unusable. Because we simply cannot predetermine all possible situations, there is no way to know with any certainty the impact that a solution materially differing from the "disjoint kernels" approach might have. Additionally, the more the solution strays from the present approach the more likely people will not understand it, will misuse it, and will be bitten by it. It might be best to think of how kernel updates are handled as being similar to how the NEC (National Electrical Code) handles the wiring of various types of electrical circuits. A great deal of what is stipulated in the NEC is there not because it is necessary for the proper operation of a given circuit, in a given situation. Rather, it is stipulated because all possible situations cannot be predicted, and the downside of a circuit failing can be so dire. Therefore, the NEC intentionally keeps circuit design and safety interlocks as simple -- and a "bulletproof" -- as possible. It ain't sexy, but it's safe. As I see it, since the kernel is comprised of files on a filesystem, the only way to ensure that it remains intact is to ensure that the set of files is disjoint from that of any other kernel. I know, it ain't sexy... But it's safe. Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From yeliab@gmail.com Thu Feb 24 13:21:38 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OILcQv015115 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:21:38 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so161520wri for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:21:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=olts7pBM4nH+9Rtq/Rmv8PnzsoZJSmhWb0L0fLGD68Afn7XK0BNLZhRRnpQOw7fLLC+kGIJ8hoDl05oTmikeBiydX4kQh2/rJOkNakOheYD+Y/S5idNyiXRe+w+y9ltEVgmaxO2xWqm8BM+XlYhzen7uZrSFE3Yil7bz9onf2ag= Received: by 10.54.59.11 with SMTP id h11mr17249wra; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.44 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:21:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:21:38 -0500 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:21:38 -0000 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:58:49 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:59:39AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > > The right answer might depend on the goals of the particular > > distribution being built. For the development stream, having > > (practically) all the kernel version be 100% disjoint might be the > > right option. Just always bumping the serial number... > > > I think this might be a good idea, as much as I hate having to manually > bump something with every change, I do not see a better option. Surely there's some way to have a recipe take the current output of 'date' and use that as a guaranteed source of unique strings? Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 13:39:13 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OIdCQv015308 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C794116A83 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OIdAfb013713 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:39:10 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1OIdA2Q013711 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:39:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:39:10 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224183910.GA13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> <20050224160458.GA5715@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224170146.GA31955@linuxtx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050224170146.GA31955@linuxtx.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:39:13 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:01:46AM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:04:59AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:58:49AM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > > > > I guess vmlinuz and initrd :-) > > > We could actually copy everything, but I do not think it is necessary, I'd never stand for it anyway... At least by default. We could make it a configuration option for extraordinarily paranoid sysadmins. > the kernel will most likely be able to load the new modules, There's no particular reason to think that vmlinuz will be broken rather than the modules -- in fact, if the changes are so small that the serial number isn't being increased, it's FAR more likely that we're talking about changes to modules, and so saving the modules that are needed to recover is the most important thing we we are doing here. Chances are very high that either: o The backup initrd will work with the modules installed on the system o The new initrd will work with the backup modules It's only in an extreme case that folks might need to use both the backup initrd and the backup modules. But we want to enable that, too. > and if those > happen to be broken, at least you should have enough to roll-back or > install a different version. You didn't copy the part where I explained why we can't depend on rollbacks working... > I think if there is a failure, it is more > likely that people will replace the bad kernel than try to fix it. Of course -- the point is to *enable* that. > > It might make sense to make backup copies of the modules mentioned > > in either of /etc/modprobe.conf or /proc/modules when we're backing > > up the vmlinuz and initrd. That should pretty much cover at least > > the truly critical essentials. > > > That would be an easy way. Make sure we are not copying too much. You will > still have to load them by hand, but they are there. Exactly, there is a path to recovery. We may or may not be able to reasonably automate it. We might find that we can augment the initrd that we're saving in order to make this easier and more reliable. It would be good to find a way to make this mechanism work reliably for folks who have remotely-installed systems, administered via the network. Perhaps a configuration option to put network modules in the backup initrd and load them during boot, to make sure of loading a known-good module to give them a path back to a working system. > > And, of course, we need to make sure that these things get cleaned > > up somehow. > > Taghandler on remove can pull a -last if it is actually removing the > version on which the last is based? Basically. But we'll have to look at it carefully to make sure we are getting it right. From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 14:07:45 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OJ7jQv015401 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:07:45 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8783A16A83 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OJ7hfb015098 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:07:43 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1OJ7huS015096 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:07:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:07:43 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224190743.GB13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:07:45 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 01:18:31PM -0500, Edward C. Bailey wrote: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:59:39 -0500, Michael K. Johnson > wrote: > > > As you noted, the build count is simply not available at build time; > > it's assigned by the repository after the build has been completed. > > This means that the "serial number" in the kernel recipe is the > > mechanism to use to create disjoint file sets. In practice, it's > > actually going to be quite rare that you'll have multiple builds > > Having recently been bitten by this very situation, I cringe at the > thought of a solution based the assumption that it will be "quite > rare;" after all, it wasn't rare for me... :-) It was rare because we were rebuilding for a conary change. o This is likely to happen only on development branches o This should get less and less likely as development goes on, and Conary proper changes less. You can choose to believe me or not. > > The cool thing here is that the choice of how to use the shadow > > would be entirely the system administrators, if the shadow was > > kept updated in this way. > > Of course, the bad thing here is that the choice of how to use the > shadow would be entirely the system administrators' -- meaning > some will "get it", and some won't (with the predictable results). No, really doesn't matter. Both ways should work fine. They just have the choice of which functional way they *prefer*, as a matter of policy. But neither choice will leave them with a disabled system. > I will be honest, though. Unless the solution, by whatever method, > keeps the known-good kernel and all its modules completely intact > after a newer kernel is installed, there *will* be corner cases where > systems will become unusable. There are too many assumptions in here. What I care about is whether the system gets into a condition which makes it difficult to recover from. That absolutely does not require all modules; the proof to that is a trivial example proof: you will NEVER require an alsa module not mention in /etc/modprobe.conf to recover your kernel. (The hedging about /etc/modprobe.conf is because otherwise you will tell me that you are going to recover using the modem that you are driving through an alsa module...) > Because we simply cannot > predetermine all possible situations, there is no way to know with > any certainty the impact that a solution materially differing from > the "disjoint kernels" approach might have. Well, one situation that you won't be able to recover from, period, is that you replace your hardware with totally unsupported hardware, whether or not you are doing a kernel upgrade at the same time. But that violates all the cardinal rules -- and you can still recover from that kind of stupidity with a rescue disk as long as you can get supported hardware. > Additionally, the more the solution strays from the present approach > the more likely people will not understand it, will misuse it, and will > be bitten by it. Conary is already very different from "the present approach"; let's not get too caught up in trying to do the same thing that's always been done. From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 14:11:56 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OJBtQv015423 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50F216A83 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OJBrfb015426 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:11:53 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1OJBrMF015424 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:11:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:11:53 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224191153.GC13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224145849.GE30656@linuxtx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:11:56 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 01:21:38PM -0500, Edward C. Bailey wrote: > Surely there's some way to have a recipe take the current output of 'date' > and use that as a guaranteed source of unique strings? This is guaranteed to be unique? I don't think so. $ uname -r 2.6.10-20050224153565.smp.x86.i686.cmov $ ls /lib/modules/* /lib/modules/2.6.10-20050224153565.smp.x86.i686.cmov How about 2.6.10-d58ce99e53ef61498a4e8145c3dbf61e2eecbefb55aebfe48ef746f469aa5ff8.smp.x86.i686.cmov :-) Anyway, you get my drift. From yeliab@gmail.com Thu Feb 24 15:59:56 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OKxuQv015687 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:59:56 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so173381wri for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:59:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dcX0xuB8Op4d+gyyXdl3vMBDVr5Pun/I/4NAduIf6SnbvnIoK1AHQ6Rxx+D71yX6xOOYhJgAX5l5wLz8p0OWYLw3jvhK0vgbhWz7MRVSeTGW2Jsb2yOVSTET0QVY+zHv8z9L+FQME0urDRHP4iMQJ2ZsOYdnNWBOk7WWlS0CEZo= Received: by 10.54.59.24 with SMTP id h24mr221698wra; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.44 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:59:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:59:49 -0500 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion In-Reply-To: <20050224190743.GB13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224190743.GB13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:59:56 -0000 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:07:43 -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 01:18:31PM -0500, Edward C. Bailey wrote: ... > > Having recently been bitten by this very situation, I cringe at the > > thought of a solution based the assumption that it will be "quite > > rare;" after all, it wasn't rare for me... :-) > > It was rare because we were rebuilding for a conary change. > o This is likely to happen only on development branches > o This should get less and less likely as development goes on, > and Conary proper changes less. > > You can choose to believe me or not. It's not a matter of me believing you or not, it's a matter of having seen too many cases of "this should never happen" happening to feel comfortable with such statements... :-) ... > Conary is already very different from "the present approach"; let's > not get too caught up in trying to do the same thing that's always > been done. Fair enough; just keep in mind that sometimes things are done the way they always have been because it has advantages over the alternatives. In any case, I've voiced my concerns. Lacking sufficient background in Conary to help move a solution forward, I'll leave it to the experts to determine the best way to address the issue... Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From johnsonm@specifix.com Thu Feb 24 16:30:44 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OLUhQv015783 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:30:44 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5816A73 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1OLUffb020428 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:30:41 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j1OLUfW2020426 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:30:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:30:41 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050224213041.GA20030@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050224135939.GA1361@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> <20050224190743.GB13369@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Thoughts about Conary and kernel packaging... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:30:44 -0000 On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 03:59:49PM -0500, Edward C. Bailey wrote: > It's not a matter of me believing you or not, it's a matter of having > seen too many cases of "this should never happen" happening to > feel comfortable with such statements... :-) Straw man... I said "rare", not "this should never happen". I understand that it happened to you -- the exact same thing happened to me, and probably to 90% of the folks currently using Specifix Linux, sparing only those who didn't update on a few particular days. I didn't mean rare in the sense that only a small percentage of current users would see it; I meant rare in that the event (irrespective of the number of users) would not occur often. * * * In any case, the tag handler mechanism would solve the problem anyway, so the point should be moot; no need to discuss the finer points of the word "rare". Come to think about it, the tag handler has enough information to back up *only* the modules that have *actually changed*. I think you would agree that modules that haven't changed don't actually need to be backed up. :-) With that in mind, the configuration for the paranoid can back up all the modules that have changed, and the non-paranoid configuration can back up all the modules that have changed and that there is any reason to suspect are actually in critical use (mentioned in lsmod output and/or in /etc/modprobe.conf). We can also have a configuration for the sanguine (or alternatively prepared) user, one that doesn't bother with the backup parts at all. > Fair enough; just keep in mind that sometimes things are done the > way they always have been because it has advantages over the > alternatives. Sometimes things are done the way they have always been done because the tools haven't supported a better way. If we don't even attempt to use the new power that Conary provides, we deserve to fail. :-) From johnsonm@specifix.com Sat Mar 5 19:47:28 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j260lRQv015020 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:47:27 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D0D16792 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j260lLfb021446 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:47:21 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j260lLlY021444 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:47:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:47:21 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050306004721.GA21384@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.22 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 00:47:28 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.22 is now available, debuting support for the x86_64 architecture. See http://wiki.specifix.com/SpecifixMirrorSites to download. Be aware that some mirrors have not yet finished syncing the x86_64 ISO images as of this writing. Conary is now in beta, and has lots of changes for multilib support, which enables many x86 troves to be installed on x86_64. Many packages were rebuilt to take advantage of this multilib support in order to enable the x86_64 version. Many packages have new component assignments to support multilib; in particular, there are new standard :devellib and :perl components to many packages. A minimal install option is now available. New packages and versions: * authconfig-gtk newly built from authconfig sources * firstboot and all its requirements (htmlview, system-config-date, system-config-display, system-config-language, system-config-network, system-config-rootpassword, system-config-securitylevel) newly added * ethereal 0.10.9 (latest upstream) * firefox 1.0.1 * gaim 1.1.4 * gc 6.4 * glib 2.6.3 * gtk 2.6.3 * hal 0.4.7 * hwdata 0.150.1 * inkscape 0.41 * kid 0.5.2 * lvm2 2.00.25 replaces lvm 1.0.3 * nss_ldap 207 newly included * passivetex 1.25 newly included * postgresql 8.0.1 * pygtk 2.5.3 * samba 3.0.11 * sed 4.1.4 * umb-scheme 3.2 newly added * xmltex 20020625 newly included * xorg-x11 6.8.2 In addition, we now install some group files as part of the distribution. This is in preparation for being able to use conary to update using those group files; eventually, it will be practical to run conary update group-dist to update the distribution. More groups will be included in later versions of the distribution. As a workaround until conary group handling is appropriate for this operation, we have packaged a script named yuck (those of you who have used one of a few distributions using another update tool will get the joke...) which is intended to assist you in keeping your system up to date. It is not complete or perfect, but we will not be doing significant further development on it, because it is merely a hack to work around the fact that our development of group handling in conary is still ongoing. Lastly, we'd like to take this opportunity to welcome Foresight Desktop Linux. It is the first derivative distribution built from Specifix Linux, and demonstrates the power of of Conary. Most of it is stock Specifix Linux; less than 100 source packages are different. The modified packages are maintained as shadows of their counterparts in Specifix Linux, and it also includes several packages (such as beagle and mono) that are not included in Specifix Linux proper. We'd like to thank Ken VanDine for demonstrating how Conary allows you to build a new OS without having to maintain everything yourself. Errata: On the x86_64 platform, the pango modules are not properly set up during the installation process. After installing, log in as root and run the following command: pango-querymodules-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu > /etc/pango/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/pango.modules From msw@specifix.com Sat Mar 5 23:45:31 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j264jUQv015635 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:45:30 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B97316792 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 20:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j264jOfb026389 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:45:24 -0500 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j264jNqp026387 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:45:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:45:23 -0500 From: Matt Wilson To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050306044523.GB26197@specifix.com> References: <20050306004721.GA21384@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050306004721.GA21384@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.22 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 04:45:31 -0000 On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > A minimal install option is now available. More installation-related news: SMP and HyperThread-capable machines should now be autodetected and a SMP kernel installed and used by default. LVM may now work during installation, but I haven't tested it yet. I'd be happy to hear success stories or bug reports. Cheers, Matt From johnsonm@specifix.com Mon Mar 7 07:24:37 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j27COaQv031935 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:24:37 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D00169BB for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 04:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j27COUfb029074 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:24:30 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j27COUQq029072 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:24:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:24:30 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050307122430.GA29040@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050306004721.GA21384@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050306004721.GA21384@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.22 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:24:37 -0000 On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 07:47:21PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > download. Be aware that some mirrors have not yet finished syncing the > x86_64 ISO images as of this writing. All mirrors now have x86_64 available. From johnsonm@specifix.com Fri Apr 8 11:08:46 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j38F8kQv009034 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:08:46 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711C16AC4 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j38F8Qfb008565 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:08:26 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j38F8QNd008563 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:08:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:08:26 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050408150826.GA8456@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Specifix Linux 0.23 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:08:46 -0000 Specifix Linux 0.23 is now available, again with support for the x86_64 architecture. No mirrors have yet finished syncing as of this writing; we suggest waiting until mirrors have their copies. See the mirror list at http://wiki.specifix.com/SpecifixMirrorSites to download from mirrors in a few more hours. This release has been updated to GNOME 2.10, and it has debuginfo support; most of the packages in the distribution have a :debuginfo component that can be installed from the repository in order to debug the binaries in the package. The :debuginfo components contain both the source code and the debugging information from the binaries, and gdb will find all the right information if the :debuginfo components are installed. (This can be useful not only for debugging, but also bug reporting; for example, you could install libgnome* :debuginfo and some application's :debuginfo components in order to make a bug-buddy stack trace more useful to developers in a bug report.) o New upstream versions include acl, acpid, alsa-lib, alsa-utils, apr, apr-util, aspell, aspell-en, atk, at-spi, attr, bug-buddy, conary, conary-gui, control-center, dasher, dbus, dbus-x11, desktop-file-utils, eel, elfutils, eog, evolution, evolution-data-server, evolution-webcal, file-roller, firefox (includes a security update for the javascript replace security hole), gaim, gal, gamin, gcalctool, GConf, gconf-editor, gdm, gedit, ggv, gimp, glade, gnome2-user-docs, gnome-applets, gnome-cups-manager, gnome-desktop, gnome-games, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring, gnome-mag, gnome-media, gnome-netstatus, gnome-panel, gnome-python, gnome-session, gnome-speech, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes, gnome-utils, gnome-vfs, gok, gst-plugins, gstreamer, gtk-doc, gtk-engines, gtkhtml, gtksourceview, gucharmap, ImageMagick, jfsutils, kernel (several security fixes), kid, libbonobo, libbonoboui, libelf, libgail-gnome, libglade, libgnome, libgnomecanvas, libgnomecups, libgnomeprint, libgnomeprintui, libgnomeui, libgtop, librsvg, libsoup, libwnck, libxdlavier, metacity, mozilla, mozilla-chat, mozilla-dom-inspector, mozilla-js-debugger, mozilla-mail, mozilla-nspr, mozilla-nss (javascript security hole update), nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, nmap, pango, pcre, perl-DateManip, pygtk, SDL, SDL_image, speex, sqlite, startup-notification, tftp, vino, vte, xscreensaver, and zenity. o New packages include debugedit (for supporting debuginfo), gnome-backgrounds, gnome-doc-utils, gnome-menus, gnome-system-tools, krb5 (only included components, not the package, before), oprofile, system-tools-backends, and totem. o The modutils package was replaced by module-init-tools. If you are upgrading, you will get a redirect to modutils; a simple update of modutils should be sufficient. Similarly, reiserfs-utils was renamed to follow the upstream name reiserfsprogs. o The nautilus-media package is now subsumed in nautilus, and no longer exists separately. o A compiler bug in gcc 3.3.3 prevents 64-bit firefox from working, and so for the moment, the x86_64 distribution contains only the 32-bit firefox, instead of containing both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions. From johnsonm@specifix.com Fri Apr 8 16:22:01 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j38KM0Qv010160 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:22:00 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931B5167EB for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j38KLffb019704 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:21:41 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j38KLfgS019702 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:21:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:21:41 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com Message-ID: <20050408202141.GA19575@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050408150826.GA8456@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050408150826.GA8456@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.23 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:22:01 -0000 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 11:08:26AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Specifix Linux 0.23 is now available, again with support for the x86_64 > architecture. No mirrors have yet finished syncing as of this writing; > we suggest waiting until mirrors have their copies. See the mirror > list at http://wiki.specifix.com/SpecifixMirrorSites to download from > mirrors in a few more hours. The NCSU mirror is now up to date with our initial release. We have since released xdelta files and a README-dvd script that you can use to turn two the two cd images for either architecture into a DVD image. From tgerla@specifix.com Sat Apr 9 11:30:01 2005 Received: from bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (w098.z064220152.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.220.152.98]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j39FU0Qv013911 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:30:00 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (lambchop.rdu.specifix.com [172.16.58.2]) by bluesmobile.specifixinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3960169B8 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j39FTefb009180 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:29:40 -0400 Received: (from tgerla@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j39FTehB009178 for distro-list@lists.specifix.com; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:29:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:29:39 -0400 From: Tim Gerla To: Specifix Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050409152939.GA9158@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> References: <20050408150826.GA8456@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050408150826.GA8456@lambchop.rdu.specifix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Specifix Linux 0.23 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:30:01 -0000 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 11:08:26AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Specifix Linux 0.23 is now available, again with support for the x86_64 > architecture. No mirrors have yet finished syncing as of this writing; > we suggest waiting until mirrors have their copies. See the mirror > list at http://wiki.specifix.com/SpecifixMirrorSites to download from > mirrors in a few more hours. We recently discovered that the Minimal Install option is broken for both x86 and x86_64. It will be fixed in the next alpha release. -Tim From yeliab@gmail.com Tue May 10 14:17:02 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4AIH2Ea001661 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:17:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 49so153097wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IJJbcUPKosshz1hY56IequDtZALtjEZtfkT+kEZGhXSGQfzuyuDOa8VEe7zlFHdf4skLx6qr9VM87Uk3DcVRghjRDcjg5QQ3sJ7W7Qaj+Qu9EuLZ1Whg3HfReyANSq9OsPZYwlMf9vNkHwXuyvU6Iinf8G+G22+qnMRzYP0sJgg= Received: by 10.54.20.40 with SMTP id 40mr465493wrt; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.51 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:16:31 -0400 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.specifix.com id j4AIH2Ea001661 Cc: Subject: Question about files failing update errors test on a fresh 0.23 install... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:17:02 -0000 Hello all, I did a fresh 0.23 install, and went through the process to bring the system up to 0.60.0 as described on the ConaryConversion page. This part of the process went flawlessly; however, when I ran the conary verify|grep|grep pipeline to determine whether the system had problems from the older version of conary originally installed, I got the following output (sorted and piped through uniq, as each line appeared twice in the output): Mod -r-------- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/lastlog Mod -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/acpid Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Aug 16 2004 /usr/share/info/dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 12 2000 /usr/share/a2ps/afm/fonts.map Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 14 17:40 /usr/share/applications/defaults.list Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/scrollkeeper.log Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67 Sep 9 2004 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 236 Jul 8 2004 /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xmlcatalog Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 276 Mar 16 00:46 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5760 Sep 16 2004 /usr/share/themes/Industrial/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9604 Sep 18 2004 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.scale Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158810 Mar 30 04:16 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 812174 Mar 27 21:17 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/xmltex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 821201 Mar 27 21:17 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/pdfxmltex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1845458 Feb 2 17:21 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/pdfjadetex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1867423 Feb 2 17:21 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/jadetex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root utmp 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/wtmp Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root utmp 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/run/utmp Mod drwx-----T 1 root sys 0 Jul 8 2004 /var/spool/cups/tmp Mod drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /proc My guess is that at least some of these are not worth worrying about (/proc and the accounting files, for example), but I'm not sure if some of the other files reflect a problem, and require me to go through the "erase --no-deps --just-db/update --replace-files" two-step. Any thoughts? Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From yeliab@gmail.com Tue May 10 14:35:49 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4AIZnEa001720 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:35:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so83021wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GWhUSCWrcZ+YGSyB9ZtJD+5aS7UK7h7XpSBzMB0twj+HtIdhJ2aKR/b1ka6/bcTHGh018D8V3VDpcFIqOi6/ZsA4ArTUs7MoiXsBTsWixSdpJHMqf9q0Y638Z4VA4f757PijrY99EGIp2j7u45RQ4au+twSPqlmEVV5gI4OpxAI= Received: by 10.54.17.28 with SMTP id 28mr472234wrq; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.51 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:35:19 -0400 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.specifix.com id j4AIZnEa001720 Subject: Question about files failing update errors test on a fresh 0.23 install... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:35:50 -0000 Hello all, I did a fresh 0.23 install, and went through the process to bring the system up to 0.60.0 as described on the ConaryConversion page. This part of the process went flawlessly; however, when I ran the conary verify|grep|grep pipeline to determine whether the system had problems from the older version of conary originally installed, I got the following output (sorted and piped through uniq, as each line appeared twice in the output): Mod -r-------- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/lastlog Mod -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/acpid Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Aug 16 2004 /usr/share/info/dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 29 17:31 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 12 2000 /usr/share/a2ps/afm/fonts.map Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 14 17:40 /usr/share/applications/defaults.list Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/scrollkeeper.log Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67 Sep 9 2004 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 236 Jul 8 2004 /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xmlcatalog Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 276 Mar 16 00:46 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5760 Sep 16 2004 /usr/share/themes/Industrial/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9604 Sep 18 2004 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/fonts.scale Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158810 Mar 30 04:16 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 812174 Mar 27 21:17 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/xmltex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 821201 Mar 27 21:17 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/pdfxmltex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1845458 Feb 2 17:21 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/pdfjadetex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1867423 Feb 2 17:21 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/jadetex.fmt Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root utmp 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/log/wtmp Mod -rw-r--r-- 1 root utmp 0 Jul 7 2004 /var/run/utmp Mod drwx-----T 1 root sys 0 Jul 8 2004 /var/spool/cups/tmp Mod drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Jul 7 2004 /proc My guess is that at least some of these are not worth worrying about (/proc and the accounting files, for example), but I'm not sure if some of the other files reflect a problem, and require me to go through the "erase --no-deps --just-db/update --replace-files" two-step. Any thoughts? Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From yeliab@gmail.com Tue May 10 21:17:05 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4B1H5Ea004961 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:17:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so113798wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iOn6fjXzoSH3x4mjanOSJmwtP/gGApeC47F3HgCvsPRAzvZRgoSCS4vTGWGhp9DNnMGOM4c/SjxoGu6jhWmZETGDedPiZRWLXjzq37NsjllPPYAn6uZ5j50+e7mCDGktwGSxCkgWPq/nzqzjfTIyFVjxhF66bW+9Fcx16slSrg0= Received: by 10.54.55.24 with SMTP id d24mr647291wra; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.51 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:16:34 -0400 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.specifix.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.specifix.com id j4B1H5Ea004961 Subject: Re: Question about files failing update errors test on a fresh 0.23 install... X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.specifix.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edward C. Bailey" , Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Id: Specifix Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:17:05 -0000 Sorry about replying to my own email (and double-posting the original message at that), but apparently the files I listed are not a problem. So for those of you that might be lurking on the list -- only worry if you have files *other* than what I've listed... :-) Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From johnsonm@specifix.com Mon May 16 17:48:49 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4GLmmEa009738; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:48:49 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4GLmELv026695; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4GLj4bg015985; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:45:04 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.specifix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j4GLj47f015984; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:45:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:45:04 -0400 From: "Michael K. 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Thanks From tansuwa@gmail.com Mon May 30 03:25:25 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U7PP1e010042 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 03:25:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so3537210wra for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 00:24:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ujUWnT+cf/t9Kf1T6DiMvCznLzUwT+67aVjPmakLRgsvJkIeJ/EqPJVRv3t7iIWB3LVlnuPsEhiJ/mBti0AUOBioLzdi0WvmI5Bk7fvnmmeSPJKfK730mVp4RYO9PK/IwtUQ1frmhmPdaZdRw3nbGZ3uHajpCnkGVIqZxEBdt34= Received: by 10.54.34.62 with SMTP id h62mr2894294wrh; Mon, 30 May 2005 00:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.128.1 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 00:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:24:47 +0800 From: Suwanto Tan To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id j4U7PP1e010042 Subject: How can I use conary to start building distribution packages using Linux From Scratch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, Suwanto Tan List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:25:25 -0000 Hi, I would like to use Conary as the package manager when I am building Linux From Scratch (LFS). I plan to start to use Conary once I am ready to chroot to the build system. I would like to start building packages: # Glibc-2.3.4-20040701 # Binutils-2.15.91.0.2 # GCC-3.4.1 # Coreutils-5.2.1 # Zlib-1.2.1 # Mktemp-1.5 # Iana-Etc-1.01 # Findutils-4.1.20 # Gawk-3.1.4 # Ncurses-5.4 # Readline-5.0 # Vim-6.3 # M4-1.4.2 # Bison-1.875a # Less-382 # Groff-1.19.1 # Sed-4.1.2 # Flex-2.5.31 # Gettext-0.14.1 # Inetutils-1.4.2 # Iproute2-2.6.8-040823 # Perl-5.8.5 # Texinfo-4.7 # Autoconf-2.59 # Automake-1.9.1 # Bash-3.0 # File-4.10 # Libtool-1.5.8 # Bzip2-1.0.2 # Diffutils-2.8.1 # Kbd-1.12 # E2fsprogs-1.35 # Grep-2.5.1 # Grub-0.95 # Gzip-1.3.5 # Man-1.5o # Make-3.80 # Module-Init-Tools-3.0 # Patch-2.5.4 # Procps-3.2.3 # Psmisc-21.5 # Shadow-4.0.4.1 # Sysklogd-1.4.1 # Sysvinit-2.85 # Tar-1.14 # Udev-030 # Util-linux-2.12b Install them into the chroot-ed build system. Use the conary again to build system bootscripts. and install them into the chroot-ed build system again. In short, I would like to use conary to make a linux distro based on LFS. I am in learning mode and I am interested in conary since it has many good features. I would like to explore and at the same time learn on how to make a linux distro. Pardon me if my question to general. Hints or leads would be very much welcome too. Thanks Suwanto From ken@bizrace.com Mon May 30 07:58:29 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4UBwT1e011543 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:58:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.93] (cpe-069-134-213-039.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.213.39]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4UBvlL4025707; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:57:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: Suwanto Tan , distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:57:42 -0400 Message-Id: <1117454262.3177.15.camel@vision> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Subject: Re: How can I use conary to start building distribution packages using Linux From Scratch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:58:30 -0000 I would be glad to help. I created Foresight with conary. Basically, you don't need to rebuild all those packages. You can pull the changesets from rpath, and shadow the packages you want to change and build them yourself. Conary really makes this stuff easy. Have you setup a repository yet? You will surely need one. Also, have you learned about shadows yet? Those are your best bet. --Ken On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 15:24 +0800, Suwanto Tan wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use Conary as the package manager when I am building > Linux From Scratch (LFS). > > I plan to start to use Conary once I am ready to chroot to the build system. > > I would like to start building packages: > > # Glibc-2.3.4-20040701 > # Binutils-2.15.91.0.2 > # GCC-3.4.1 > # Coreutils-5.2.1 > # Zlib-1.2.1 > # Mktemp-1.5 > # Iana-Etc-1.01 > # Findutils-4.1.20 > # Gawk-3.1.4 > # Ncurses-5.4 > # Readline-5.0 > # Vim-6.3 > # M4-1.4.2 > # Bison-1.875a > # Less-382 > # Groff-1.19.1 > # Sed-4.1.2 > # Flex-2.5.31 > # Gettext-0.14.1 > # Inetutils-1.4.2 > # Iproute2-2.6.8-040823 > # Perl-5.8.5 > # Texinfo-4.7 > # Autoconf-2.59 > # Automake-1.9.1 > # Bash-3.0 > # File-4.10 > # Libtool-1.5.8 > # Bzip2-1.0.2 > # Diffutils-2.8.1 > # Kbd-1.12 > # E2fsprogs-1.35 > # Grep-2.5.1 > # Grub-0.95 > # Gzip-1.3.5 > # Man-1.5o > # Make-3.80 > # Module-Init-Tools-3.0 > # Patch-2.5.4 > # Procps-3.2.3 > # Psmisc-21.5 > # Shadow-4.0.4.1 > # Sysklogd-1.4.1 > # Sysvinit-2.85 > # Tar-1.14 > # Udev-030 > # Util-linux-2.12b > > > Install them into the chroot-ed build system. > > Use the conary again to build system bootscripts. > and install them into the chroot-ed build system again. > > In short, I would like to use conary to make a linux distro based on LFS. > > I am in learning mode and I am interested in conary since it has many > good features. I would like to explore and at the same time learn on > how to make a linux distro. > > Pardon me if my question to general. Hints or leads would be very much > welcome too. > > Thanks > Suwanto > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From tansuwa@gmail.com Mon May 30 10:04:42 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4UE4f1e012061 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:04:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so3662648wra for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WNoWiq5rn+87Xe/etlBO2RIFlUE5LVrxFytJaSd6TddfWWDbfL2Xnw3l9c1CpbYkfDMlrC0RV8c/14skJoQSjUEcw9ANG/LmaevSJlVhateEmZ8bYGCP7TgRlQIEnTTI/ULjAOFCOeaAyvsNeFB2S5/1UqWNWGF7dQ2mM0CS/jE= Received: by 10.54.53.44 with SMTP id b44mr3207533wra; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.128.1 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 22:04:04 +0800 From: Suwanto Tan To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <1117454262.3177.15.camel@vision> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1117454262.3177.15.camel@vision> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id j4UE4f1e012061 Subject: Re: How can I use conary to start building distribution packages using Linux From Scratch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, Suwanto Tan List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:04:42 -0000 Hi Ken, Thanks for your help. Ok. I have read Conary FrontPage. I guess I have to read it several times. I understand the concept about shadow and repository and I think it's time to get my hands dirty. There is explanation on how to use conary and populate the conary conf with existing conary repo and there is also explanation on how to setup single threaded conary repo. But I cannot find how to populate the conary repo with the source codes tarballs. The recipes look similar with ebuild, arch PKGBUILD or FreeBSD ports. But with different approach such as no scripts compared to PKGBUILD where it uses normal bash script. Maybe I miss the part on populating conary repo (exact commands), but could you tell me (links/URLs/manuals) the command to populate connary with source tarballs? In archlinux PKGBUILD I only need to specify the URLs inside source variable and attach the md5sum of source files. I consider PKGBUILD is easier to use than gentoo ebuild. I am not too sure which one is more powerful. I prefer simplicity, the more complex the system, the more effort to maintain it. Of course simplicity plus powerful feature is great. I have another problem though with LFS devel, but that's another story. Thanks. Suwanto On 5/30/05, Ken VanDine wrote: > I would be glad to help. I created Foresight with conary. Basically, > you don't need to rebuild all those packages. You can pull the > changesets from rpath, and shadow the packages you want to change and > build them yourself. Conary really makes this stuff easy. Have you > setup a repository yet? You will surely need one. Also, have you > learned about shadows yet? Those are your best bet. > > --Ken > > From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue May 31 16:04:19 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4VK4I1e031816 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:04:19 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4VK3a0V017997; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4VK2qS1021819; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:02:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j4VK2poO021818; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:02:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:02:51 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050531200251.GA21698@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <1117454262.3177.15.camel@vision> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Suwanto Tan Subject: Re: How can I use conary to start building distribution packages using Linux From Scratch X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:04:19 -0000 On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:04:04PM +0800, Suwanto Tan wrote: > setup single threaded conary repo. But I cannot find how to populate > the conary repo with the source codes tarballs. The recipes look When you commit recipes to the repository, conary automatically also commits the URL-referenced sources. > similar with ebuild, arch PKGBUILD or FreeBSD ports. But with > different approach such as no scripts compared to PKGBUILD where it > uses normal bash script. Right. You can put scriptlets in with "r.Run('some script')" but it's basically a python script with some magic to make it easier and avoid "boilerplate" text that needs to be copied from recipe to recipe. > Maybe I miss the part on populating conary repo (exact commands), but > could you tell me (links/URLs/manuals) the command to populate connary > with source tarballs? cvc commit --message 'some message' > In archlinux PKGBUILD I only need to specify the URLs inside source > variable and attach the md5sum of source files. In conary, you specify the URLs to addArchive or addSource or addPatch and optionally a gpg key fingerprint for verifying the signature of the URL. The sum of the file is stored in the repository automatically rather than having to be explicitly added to the recipe, reducing recipe churn. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Jun 2 13:29:51 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j52HTp1e026286 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:29:51 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j52HTAY4019678 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j52HS8ml002723 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:28:08 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j52HS8Eo002722 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:28:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:28:04 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: rpath Distribution Discussion Message-ID: <20050602172804.GA2693@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Specifix Linux 0.24 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:29:51 -0000 We are happy to announce rpath Linux 0.24. Previously called "Specifix Linux", this is the first release of the Linux distribution under the new "rpath Linux" name. The package set included in the ISO images of this release is smaller than Specifix Linux 0.23. There are packages that are considered a part of the OS, but not included on the CD. The group-os group defines the entire set of packages that makes up the OS. group-os includes group-dist, which defines what goes on the ISO images. Most of the packages that have been moved from group-dist to group-os are servers that do not need to be installed on most systems. Others are less-used packages, or packages that duplicate functionality provided by other packages. This release has Conary 0.60.4, eliminating the need for an immediate conversion after installing the distribution. o New upstream versions include: arts, automake, conary, conary-gui, cups, dmalloc, emacs, firefox, gaim, gamin, gedit, gimp, glib, gnome-panel, httpd, ImageMagick, iptables, kde*, lftp, libtool, mod_ssl, mtr, parted, php, pyparted, python, SDL_mixer, sqlite, subversion, swig, util-linux, and vte o Updated packages include: a2ps, aspell, booty, cyrus-sasl, dasher, distcache, docbook-xsl, firstboot, GConf, gconf-editor, gnome-system-monitor, gok, gtk, hotplug, mutt, nail, passivetex, schedutils, sgml-common, and vorbis-tools o New packages include: conary-web-common (required to run a conary repository), evince, and poppler o Packages moved into (or newly added in) group-os include: am-utils, anaconda, anaconda-images, bind (except bind:lib for dependencies), devlabel, dhcp, distcc, dovecot, dump, ethereal, expect, expectk, flac, gparted, inn, krbafs, lesstif, lrzsz, lynx, mailman, minicom, mozilla and mozilla-* (except mozilla-nspr, mozilla:lib, and mozilla-mail:lib), mysql (except mysql:lib), net-snmp (except net-snmp:lib), nmap, openldap (except openldap:lib), oprofile, pam_krb5, pam_smb, pax, php-pgsql, php-mysql, postgresql (except postgresql:lib), pstack, pump, quagga, radvd, sane-* (except sane-backends:lib), sharutils, spamassassin, squirrelmail, stunnel, sumlinks, syslinux, tcl (except tcl:lib), tclx, tftp, tk (except tk:lib), vsftpd, xsane, and ypserv o Removed packages include: boost, ElectricFence and njamd (redundant given nmalloc), ggv and gpdf (replaced by evince) The firstboot program does not always run the first time you boot an installed system. If it does not run, you can log in on a text console as root and run it manually. The bug has been fixed in the repository and the next version of rpath Linux will have the fixed firstboot. Deleting partitions is currently broken in anaconda. This will be fixed in our next release. Please visit http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites, see the ibiblio Osprey bittorrent tracker at http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc.php?docid=19, or (as a last resort) download from ftp://download.rpath.com/pub/rpath/linux/alpha/0.24/ From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Sat Jun 11 02:29:35 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer2.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.4]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5B6TX1e031509 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:29:35 -0400 Received-SPF: none Received: from [192.168.0.200] (222-152-200-184.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.152.200.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5B6Tg3T032060 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:29:43 +1200 Message-ID: <42AA84A1.2050009@orcon.net.nz> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:28:49 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: conary update not working X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:29:35 -0000 Hi all, I have done a minimal install of rpath 0.24 and I would now like to install KDE. This is where the fun begins. conary update group-kde appears to work, then has a freak out over missing depends. Anyone able to shed some light on whats happening? I have done a yuck --update before attempting this. I thought conary was able to resolve depends. Cheers Mike From johnsonm@rpath.com Sat Jun 11 08:45:42 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5BCjg1e000506 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:45:42 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5BCivY4024730 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5BCgewJ020165 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:42:40 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5BCge0t020164 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:42:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:42:36 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050611124236.GA20148@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42AA84A1.2050009@orcon.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AA84A1.2050009@orcon.net.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: conary update not working X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:45:42 -0000 On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 06:28:49PM +1200, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > I thought conary was able to resolve depends. Only if you ask it to. You can do this on the command line or in conaryrc files. "man conary" says: --resolve Attempt to automatically resolve all dependencies. Can be made the default option by setting the autoResolve flag in conaryrc. From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Sat Jun 11 16:54:51 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer2.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.4]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5BKso1e001829 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:50 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (222-152-200-184.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.152.200.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5BKrrnq021458 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:53:54 +1200 Message-ID: <42AB4F6C.6070201@orcon.net.nz> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:54:04 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42AA84A1.2050009@orcon.net.nz> <20050611124236.GA20148@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050611124236.GA20148@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: conary update not working X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 06:28:49PM +1200, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > > >>I thought conary was able to resolve depends. >> >> > >Only if you ask it to. You can do this on the command line or >in conaryrc files. "man conary" says: > > --resolve > Attempt to automatically resolve all dependencies. Can be made > the default option by setting the autoResolve flag in conaryrc. > > Seems to be doing the trick. Thank you! Mike From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Sun Jun 12 05:37:03 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer2.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.4]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5C9b11e014822 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:37:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (222-153-224-68.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.153.224.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5C9a4qD000866 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:36:05 +1200 Message-ID: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:36:15 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:37:03 -0000 Hi all, If you remove GDM so KDM is the default login manager, KDE fails to login. Has this been seen before? The login process gets to initializing periphals and then drops back the KDM. Reinstalling GDM corrects the issue. Any ideas? I can't find in any log files whats going on. Cheers Mike From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Jun 13 13:21:05 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j5DHL41e025445 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:21:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 23861 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2005 17:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2005 17:20:16 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 28250-202 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:20:11 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050613172011.GA23452@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:28:45 -0400 Subject: How I spent my summer vacation, or, Installing rpath Linux on my laptop. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:21:05 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I gather that there isn't much traffic on this list -- some good points there, considering the amount of mail that I suspect most of us receive. Although I had glanced at the rpath.com site in the past, Matt's talk at TriLUG on Thursday night prompted me to try out the distribution. I wound up spending much more of my weekend than I could really afford, but did have fun, mostly. I am running various distributions on different machines in my "office" ( home office ), and decided that this might make an interesting change for my Thinkpad 600E, "currently" running Debian. It has a roughly 75 MHz P-II with 64 Megs of RAM and a 6-ish GiB hard drive. I rsync'd the contents of this machine on to another in my network, and set to work Friday night, after downloading and burning the two CDs of 0.24. I knew that I was going to have to reformat the drive so had no issues with that. First try, I decided to go with "Minimal" and see what I got. Before that, however, I ran into the most serious crash that I encountered with this installation. It occurs whenever I try to use the "manual" method of running Disk Druid. When I try and delete a partition -- I had four counting swap, I get a crash message, reporting failure at line 1145. Unfortunately, because there is _nothing_ on the machine at that point, I had no way ( except actual pen and paper! ) of capturing the whole=20 message. If I let the "automatic partitioning" function run, it was successful. Once the install finished, I discovered that "minimal" is definitely that, without even man pages for the Conary tools. Back to the start, since I wasn't knowledgeable enough on using Conary to feel confident continuing. ( I've got a lot more experience now! ) Once again, trying to delete any one of the partitions, crash at line 1145. This time I chose the other alternative -- Everyhing. ( Note to rpath -- how about "task groups" or functional selections such as is found when installing ( older ) Debian ( don't know how the new one has changed ) and other distributions. For instance, besides "Minimal" and "Everything" offer, "Development", "Web Server", "Word Processing", "Game Playing" 'packages' as well. -- other suggestions? -- ) I knew that I would need to dedicate most of the disk to that choice, and found that when Automatic was finished, it had created a 100 Meg /boot, a 200 Meg swap ( much larger that I had previously ) and the rest on one partition. I don't know whether I could have installed to LVM as I would have preferred if Disk Druid had not crashed. More on that later. OK, so now I have a complete install ( of much more than I wanted ) and it is running Gnome, which I didn't really want. ( I don't remember whether choosing "text install" did that or not. I'm sure that I tried that at least once! ) However, editing inittab and changing the run level fixed that little issue. A LOT of Saturday and Sunday were spent doing "conary erase". I discovered that "conary query and repquery" didn't seem to have the facilities for searching that I needed, so I did a lot of SLO-O-O-W "conary repquery | grep xxxx" instead to see what files were needed and not needed. Along the way I downloaded "icewm" from Sourceforge, which I would like to contribute to the repository once I learn how to write a proper recipe. When I tried to build icewm, I found that it wanted "Imlib" so spent quite a bit of time trying to find that on the repository and then get it to install. ( A lot of spinning wheels here. ) Eventually I went back and re-read the IceWM notes and re-ran configure, telling it to use XPM instead of Imlib. Make and Make Install worked fine and I now have my preferred ( relatively light-weight ) window manager. It runs much more comfortably on this machine, although CLI is best, of course. Once I had removed enough "extra" from the system, I reduced the size of the primary partition and split it. The new partition became a type "8e" and I was started. Unfortunately, despite the various shoe-horning that I have been doing, I still don't seem to have removed enough to be able to completely convert to an LVM-root machine, yet. One option that I have thought of is to back up the machine ( rsync again ), re-partition completely and re-load the disk. However, I am not sure how the installer behaves when I want to preserve the existing partitioning scheme, even if they are empty. ( I see ext3(2) /boot, swap, and the rest being a single LVM partition, subdivided as necessary. ) In any case, it was now late Sunday afternoon and I had done very little of the work that I needed to do for clients this weekend, so I stopped "messing about" and started actually "using" the machine. Bye for now, and Have Fun! 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X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:57:18 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 01:20:11PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > First try, I decided to go with "Minimal" and see what I got. Before > that, however, I ran into the most serious crash that I encountered with > this installation. It occurs whenever I try to use the "manual" method > of running Disk Druid. When I try and delete a partition -- I had four > counting swap, I get a crash message, reporting failure at line 1145. > Unfortunately, because there is _nothing_ on the machine at that point, > I had no way ( except actual pen and paper! ) of capturing the whole > message. If I let the "automatic partitioning" function run, it was > successful. Yup, this was discovered shortly before we announced the release. The announcement mentioned it. It'll be fixed in the next build. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. 919.412.3256 msw@rpath.com From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Jun 13 15:08:10 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5DJ8A1e029524 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:08:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5DJ7OL4016488 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5DJ4mwJ029235 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:04:48 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5DJ4mdO029234 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:04:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:04:48 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050613190447.GA28852@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050613172011.GA23452@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613172011.GA23452@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: How I spent my summer vacation, or, Installing rpath Linux on my laptop. X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:08:11 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 01:20:11PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > First try, I decided to go with "Minimal" and see what I got. Before > that, however, I ran into the most serious crash that I encountered with > this installation. It occurs whenever I try to use the "manual" method Yes, this was found right after we cut the release and was noted in the release notes. Very annoying, and has been fixed for our next release. This will address many of your concerns. > This time I chose the other alternative -- Everyhing. ( Note to rpath > -- how about "task groups" or functional selections such as is found Code that is being written now is a prerequisite for this. The general problem here has been listed on the list of things to do for over a year now, but we're finally making some of the changes needed to support this sanely. While you might not agree on the final set of groups we select for rpath Linux, that's actually not very important; what's really cool is that it will be easy for anyone to set up their own groups. 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The login process gets to initializing > periphals and then drops back the KDM. > > Reinstalling GDM corrects the issue. > > Any ideas? I can't find in any log files whats going on. This appears to be an issue between /etc/sysconfig/desktop and /etc/X11/xdm/prefdm, which chooses which display manager to use. On my test system, I replaced DESKTOP="GNOME" with DESKTOP="KDE" in /etc/sysconfig/desktop and added the line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE". Then KDM loaded just fine after an init 3; init 5. I then deleted GDM with the above changes in place with no problems. I then deleted all the contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop leaving an empty file. Still no problems logging into KDE from KDM. Then, for giggles, I put DESKTOP="GNOME" back in (as originally configured) to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and ran init 3; init 5. I still had no problems. Unfortunately I never saw the problem you described above. Please send more feedback when you are able. -- Joseph Tate Personal e-mail: jtate AT dragonstrider DOT com Web: http://www.dragonstrider.com From jtate@rpath.com Wed Jun 15 10:46:09 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5FEk91e006567 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:46:09 -0400 Received: from mail.dragonstrider.com (cpe-066-057-082-134.nc.res.rr.com [66.57.82.134]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5FEjNL4028689 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.73] (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by mail.dragonstrider.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBB1E337B for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:46:37 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:46:09 -0000 Joseph Tate wrote: >This appears to be an issue between /etc/sysconfig/desktop and >/etc/X11/xdm/prefdm, which chooses which display manager to use. On >my test system, I replaced DESKTOP="GNOME" with DESKTOP="KDE" in >/etc/sysconfig/desktop and added the line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE". Then >KDM loaded just fine after an init 3; init 5. > >I then deleted GDM with the above changes in place with no problems. > >I then deleted all the contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop leaving an >empty file. Still no problems logging into KDE from KDM. > >Then, for giggles, I put DESKTOP="GNOME" back in (as originally >configured) to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and ran init 3; init 5. I still >had no problems. > >Unfortunately I never saw the problem you described above. Please >send more feedback when you are able. > > A further test on my system at work: I removed GDM with no other changes, and I was able to log in to KDE from KDM, so I still have not been able to reproduce the bug as described. From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Wed Jun 15 15:23:21 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5FJNK1e007717 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:23:21 -0400 Received: from orcon.net.nz (222-153-224-68.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.153.224.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5FJMFYQ022972 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:22:23 +1200 Message-ID: <42B07FF2.30105@orcon.net.nz> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:22:26 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20050513 Linspire/1.6-5.1.0.50.linspire2.48 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:23:22 -0000 Joseph Tate wrote: > Joseph Tate wrote: > >> This appears to be an issue between /etc/sysconfig/desktop and >> /etc/X11/xdm/prefdm, which chooses which display manager to use. On >> my test system, I replaced DESKTOP="GNOME" with DESKTOP="KDE" in >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop and added the line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE". Then >> KDM loaded just fine after an init 3; init 5. >> >> I then deleted GDM with the above changes in place with no problems. >> >> I then deleted all the contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop leaving an >> empty file. Still no problems logging into KDE from KDM. >> >> Then, for giggles, I put DESKTOP="GNOME" back in (as originally >> configured) to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and ran init 3; init 5. I still >> had no problems. >> >> Unfortunately I never saw the problem you described above. Please >> send more feedback when you are able. >> >> > A further test on my system at work: I removed GDM with no other > changes, and I was able to log in to KDE from KDM, so I still have not > been able to reproduce the bug as described. I am rebuilding my box atm. I am installing minimal, a bunch of xorg change sets and group-kde. This is how i first replicated the problem. Will let you know more soon. Cheers Mike From msw@rpath.com Wed Jun 15 17:32:18 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5FLWI1e008167 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:32:18 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5FLVWY4028686 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5FLVMwM003180 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:22 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5FLVLp8003179 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:21 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050615213120.GI19062@rpath.com> References: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> <42B07FF2.30105@orcon.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B07FF2.30105@orcon.net.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:32:18 -0000 On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:22:26AM +1200, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > > I am installing minimal, a bunch of xorg change sets and group-kde. This > is how i first replicated the problem. It's quite likely that we're missing a dependency that kdm needs to work. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. 919.412.3256 msw@rpath.com From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Wed Jun 15 18:31:43 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5FMVg1e009415 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:31:43 -0400 Received-SPF: none Received: from webmail.orcon.net.nz ([172.16.100.200]) by dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5FMVspv004286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:31:54 +1200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.orcon.net.nz (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-15) with ESMTP id j5FMZMLb031188; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:35:23 +1200 Message-Id: <200506152235.j5FMZMLb031188@webmail.orcon.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com From: Michael Honeyfield X-DBMAIL-Control: mhoneyfield X-DBMAIL-Originating-IP: 203.97.51.114 X-DBMAIL-Webmail-Version: 1.1 Beta 3 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:35:22 +1200 (NZST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:31:43 -0000 But that doesn't explain why I get the same when I remove GDM with a full install. I will continue my testing and suggests from jtate to see what happens. Hopefully it is just a missing depend, cuz thats fairly straight forward to fix, just install it :) Mike PS: sorry for the VERY badly formatted email, my ISP's webmail.. not good. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Wilson Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:21 -0400 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:22:26AM +1200, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > > I am installing minimal, a bunch of xorg change sets and group-kde. This > is how i first replicated the problem. It's quite likely that we're missing a dependency that kdm needs to work. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. 919.412.3256 msw@rpath.com _______________________________________________ distro-list mailing list distro-list@lists.rpath.com http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list







































































































































































































From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Tue Jun 21 03:29:09 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer-VIP.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.2]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5L7T61e003726 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:29:08 -0400 Received: from orcon.net.nz (222-152-247-149.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.152.247.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5L7TmtO015292 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:29:48 +1200 Message-ID: <42B7C191.5020006@orcon.net.nz> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:28:17 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20050513 Linspire/1.6-5.1.0.50.linspire2.48 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:29:09 -0000 OK, finally had sometime. Clean install of 0.24 yuck --update conary erase gdm init 6 KDM starts Login as Michael kpersonaliser starts and finishes KDE splash screen works up to initialising devices then exits back to KDM. Expected behavior is for KDM to work. Mike Joseph Tate wrote: > Joseph Tate wrote: > >> This appears to be an issue between /etc/sysconfig/desktop and >> /etc/X11/xdm/prefdm, which chooses which display manager to use. On >> my test system, I replaced DESKTOP="GNOME" with DESKTOP="KDE" in >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop and added the line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE". Then >> KDM loaded just fine after an init 3; init 5. >> >> I then deleted GDM with the above changes in place with no problems. >> >> I then deleted all the contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop leaving an >> empty file. Still no problems logging into KDE from KDM. >> >> Then, for giggles, I put DESKTOP="GNOME" back in (as originally >> configured) to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and ran init 3; init 5. I still >> had no problems. >> >> Unfortunately I never saw the problem you described above. Please >> send more feedback when you are able. >> >> > A further test on my system at work: I removed GDM with no other > changes, and I was able to log in to KDE from KDM, so I still have not > been able to reproduce the bug as described. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > From mhoneyfield@orcon.net.nz Tue Jun 21 03:36:51 2005 Received: from dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer-VIP.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.2]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5L7ao1e003754 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:36:50 -0400 Received: from orcon.net.nz (222-152-247-149.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.152.247.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5L7bXH1019856 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:37:33 +1200 Message-ID: <42B7C363.6030501@orcon.net.nz> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:36:03 +1200 From: Michael Honeyfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20050513 Linspire/1.6-5.1.0.50.linspire2.48 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42AC020F.7040002@orcon.net.nz> <42B03F4D.30300@rpath.com> <42B7C191.5020006@orcon.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <42B7C191.5020006@orcon.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: GDM vs KDM X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:36:51 -0000 I should have also added, that I had not logged into the system as Michael yet, only as root via ssh. I had made the suggested changes to /etc/sysconfig/desktop I will try tomorrow on a couple of systems at work. But it does look like a bug in KDM Cheers Mike Michael Honeyfield wrote: > OK, finally had sometime. > > Clean install of 0.24 > > yuck --update > > conary erase gdm > > init 6 > > KDM starts > > Login as Michael > > kpersonaliser starts and finishes > > KDE splash screen works up to initialising devices then exits back to > KDM. > > Expected behavior is for KDM to work. > > Mike > > Joseph Tate wrote: > >> Joseph Tate wrote: >> >>> This appears to be an issue between /etc/sysconfig/desktop and >>> /etc/X11/xdm/prefdm, which chooses which display manager to use. On >>> my test system, I replaced DESKTOP="GNOME" with DESKTOP="KDE" in >>> /etc/sysconfig/desktop and added the line DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE". Then >>> KDM loaded just fine after an init 3; init 5. >>> >>> I then deleted GDM with the above changes in place with no problems. >>> >>> I then deleted all the contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop leaving an >>> empty file. Still no problems logging into KDE from KDM. >>> >>> Then, for giggles, I put DESKTOP="GNOME" back in (as originally >>> configured) to /etc/sysconfig/desktop and ran init 3; init 5. I still >>> had no problems. >>> >>> Unfortunately I never saw the problem you described above. Please >>> send more feedback when you are able. >>> >>> >> A further test on my system at work: I removed GDM with no other >> changes, and I was able to log in to KDE from KDM, so I still have >> not been able to reproduce the bug as described. >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > > > From chaos@in.fer.no Wed Jun 22 17:44:01 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5MLi01e019172 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:44:00 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.20] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DFA85848A for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:43:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:43:12 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050526 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060201030503060803020003" Subject: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:44:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060201030503060803020003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentlemen, I have created a working postfix recipe, but I am not sure what to do with it. We have an empty postfix package in the main repository because we are missing the debian 'alternatives' package. Without 'alternatives' postfix and sendmail conflicts on a number of files (eg. /usr/bin/sendmail). I propose a number of different solutions: 1) Add the debian 'alternatives' system I think alternatives is inelegant. It tries to solve a problem that should be solved by the package manager (rpm/dpkg/conary) and/or the package policy. 2) Force users to install ether sendmail or postfix, but not both at the same time. This can be confusing. Conary will complain about existing files, and unexperienced users will try the '--replace' option which mangles at least one of the packages. 3) Remove sendmail from the main repository. Even experienced sendmail users have trouble finding positive things to say about sendmail. It is a radical change. A few users will complain. Users new to email servers will have a simpler task in configuring Postfix compared to any other mail server out there. 4) Move postfix into contrib. Postfix deserves a place in the main repository. It is compact, simple to configure, very powerful and written by people that care about their emails and code. It has an excellent security track record, and a large user base. Sendmail should not be the default. I have created a clean postfix recipe for the latest version of postfix. I have also created a separate recipe for pflogsumm (a log analyzer for postfix). There are a number of nice addons to postfix and I can be persuaded to pack them as well. There are a few glitches in the cyrus-sasl package that prevents TLS from working (eg. /etc/init.d/saslauthd is missing), but this affects sendmail as well. Please advice. My vote is for solution #3 (replace sendmail with postfix). 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'README', 'ToDo') --------------060201030503060803020003-- From tgerla@rpath.com Mon Jun 27 17:43:50 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5RLho1e023530 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:43:50 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5RLgxBH004842 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.68] (marshank.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.68]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5RLf7Fd005636 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:41:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:42:56 -0400 From: Tim Gerla Organization: rpath, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050526) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:43:50 -0000 We are happy to announce rpath Linux 0.25. Previously called "Specifix Linux", this is the second release of the Linux distribution under the new "rpath Linux" name. This release includes Conary 0.60.12 and many bug fixes and updated packages: * New upstream versions include: alsa-lib, authconfig, authconfig-gtk, bison, bzip2, conary, cpio, diffstat, distro-release, dmidecode, docbook-dsssl, dosfstools, doxygen, dvd+rw-tools, e2fsprogs, eject, elementtree, epic, evolution, evolution-data-server, file, findutils, freetype, gaim, gal, gawk, gettext, gmp, gnome-pilot, gnome-pilot-conduits, gnome-spell, gnupg, gtk-doc, gtkhtml, gtkspell, iproute, irqbalance, joe, kbd, less, libao, libexif, libgsf, libgtkhtml, libieee1284, libmng, libpng, libsoup, libtiff, libuser, libxml2, logrotate, lsof, ltrace, m4, mdadm, mkbootdisk, mt-st, mtools, nano, nasm, netpbm, patchutils, pcmcia-cs, perl-DBD-MySQL, perl-DBD-Pg, pinfo, pkgconfig, procps, psmisc, quota, rdate, rsync, setarch, smartmontools, sqlite, strace, switchdesk, sysfsutils, system-config-date, system-config-display, system-config-network, tcsh, units, unzip, usermode, vim, vim-minimal, which, xfsprogs, xterm, yelp, yp-tools, ypbind, zip * Updated packages include: GConf, Hermes, ImageMagick, MAKEDEV, ORBit2, Pyrex, SDL, SDL_image, SDL_mixer, SDL_net, VFlib, Xaw3d, acl, acpid, anacron, apmd, apr, apr-util, ash, aspell, aspell-en, at, at-spi, atk, attr, audiofile, autoconf, autofs, automake, bc, bind-utils, binutils, bitmap-fonts, bitstream-vera-fonts, bogl, booty, bug-buddy, byacc, caching-nameserver, cdecl, cdparanoia, chkconfig, chkfontpath, control-center, coreutils, cracklib, crontabs, ctags, curl, cvs, cyrus-sasl, dasher, db, dbus, dbus-x11, debugedit, dejagnu, desktop-file-utils, desktop-printing, dev, dev86, devhelp, device-mapper, dietlibc, diffutils, distcache, dmalloc, docbook-dtds, docbook-utils, docbook-utils-pdf, docbook-xsl, dos2unix, ed, eel, elfutils, enscript, eog, esound, espgs, ethtool, evince, evolution-webcal, expat, fbset, fetchmail, file-roller, filesystem, finger, firefox, firstboot, floppy, fontconfig, foomatic, ftp, gail, gamin, gc, gcalctool, gcc, gconf-editor, gd, gdb, gdbm, gdm, gedit, ghostscript-fonts, gimp, gimp-print, glade, glib, glibc, glibmm, gnome-applets, gnome-audio, gnome-backgrounds, gnome-cups-manager, gnome-desktop, gnome-doc-utils, gnome-games, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-keyring, gnome-mag, gnome-media, gnome-menus, gnome-mime-data, gnome-netstatus, gnome-nettool, gnome-panel, gnome-python, gnome-session, gnome-speech, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-system-tools, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes, gnome-themes-extras, gnome-utils, gnome-vfs, gnome2-user-docs, gnomemeeting, gok, gperf, gpm, grep, groff, group-kde, grub, gst-plugins, gstreamer, gtk, gtk-engines, gtkmm, gtksourceview, gucharmap, guile, gzip, hal, hal-gnome, hdparm, hesiod, hicolor-icon-theme, htmlview, httpd, hwbrowser, hwdata, icon-slicer, indent, info, initscripts, inkscape, install-info, intltool, iptables, iputils, irda-utils, jadetex, jfsutils, jwhois, kid, krb5, kudzu, latex2html, lftp, libIDL, libart_lgpl, libbonobo, libbonoboui, libcap, libcroco, libelf, libgail-gnome, libglade, libgnome, libgnomecanvas, libgnomecups, libgnomeprint, libgnomeprintui, libgnomeui, libgtop, libogg, libole2, libpcap, librsvg, libsigc++, libtermcap, libtool, libungif, libusb, libvorbis, libwnck, libxklavier, libxslt, linc, linux-kernel-headers, linuxdoc-tools, lm_sensors, lockdev, logwatch, longrun, lvm2, mailcap, make, man-pages, memprof, metacity, microcode_ctl, mingetty, mkinitrd, mktemp, mod_python, mod_ssl, module-init-tools, mozilla-nspr, mtr, mutt, nail, nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, ncurses, neon, net-tools, newt, nfs-utils, nss_ldap, ntp, ntsysv, openh323, openjade, openoffice.org, pam, pango, parted, passivetex, passwd, patch, pciutils, pcre, perl, perl-DBI, perl-Digest-HMAC, perl-Digest-SHA1, perl-Filter, perl-Filter-Simple, perl-HTML-Parser, perl-HTML-Tagset, perl-Net-DNS, perl-Parse-Yapp, perl-Time-HiRes, perl-URI, perl-XML-Dumper, perl-XML-Encoding, perl-XML-Parser, perl-XML-Twig, perl-libwww-perl, perl-libxml-enno, perl-libxml-perl, php, pidentd, pilot-link, poppler, popt, portmap, ppp, procmail, psgml, pwlib, pygtk, pyorbit, pyparted, python, pyxf86config, qt-x11-free, rcs, rdist, readline, reiserfsprogs, rhpl, rhythmbox, rootfiles, rp-pppoe, rsh, run, rusers, rwho, samba, samba-swat, schedutils, screen, scrollkeeper, sed, sendmail, sendmail-cf, setserial, setup, setuptool, sgml-common, shadow, shapecfg, shared-mime-info, slang, slocate, speex, splint, startup-notification, statserial, swig, sysklogd, sysstat, system-config-keyboard, system-config-language, system-config-mouse, system-config-rootpassword, system-config-securitylevel, system-tools-backends, sysvinit, talk, tar, tcp_wrappers, tcpdump, telnet, termcap, tetex, tetex-afm, tetex-dvips, tetex-fonts, tetex-latex, tetex-xdvi, texi2html, texinfo, time, tmpwatch, totem, ttfprint, ttmkfdir, udev, umb-scheme, unix2dos, usbutils, utempter, vconfig, vino, vixie-cron, vorbis-tools, vte, w3c-libwww, wget, wireless-tools, words, wvdial, wvstreams, x11-ssh-askpass, xchat, xdelta, xhtml1-dtds, xinetd, xinitrc, xmltex, xmlto, xorg-x11, xorg-x11-fonts, xorg-x11-tools, xorg-x11-xfs, xscreensaver, zenity, zlib Please visit our mirrors to download: http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Or (as a last resort) download from: ftp://download.rpath.com/pub/rpath/linux/alpha/0.25/ Please note that several of our mirrors have not yet updated. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jun 28 13:30:20 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j5SHUJ1e028995 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:30:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 14687 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2005 17:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 17:29:26 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 05876-145 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:29:25 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:30:20 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:42:56PM -0400, Tim Gerla wrote: > We are happy to announce rpath Linux 0.25. Previously called "Specifix=20 > Linux", this is the second release of the Linux distribution under the=20 > new "rpath Linux" name. Is there an upgrade path, or is it just "reformat and re-install?" 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Our upgrades are done "online" via networked upgrades with conary. But the code that makes doing a full-system upgrade bearable (by splitting the job into pieces that are applied one at a time, instead of downloading and applying the whole changeset as one transaction) is only available in CVS currently. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. 919.412.3256 msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jun 28 14:45:14 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j5SIjE1e029734 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 15484 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2005 18:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 18:44:21 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 15079-07 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:44:19 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:45:15 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:34:18PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:29:25PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > >=20 > > Is there an upgrade path, or is it just "reformat and re-install?" >=20 > Our upgrades are done "online" via networked upgrades with conary. Which was the answer that I expected. So for this upgrade between "versions", I just issue a "conary upgrade" ( or is that update -- I don't have my man page here ) on the machine and wait a day or two? Or do I need to compile a list of all troves installed on my machine and issue individual updates for each? > Cheers, Toodles, > Matt Brian --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIojCCCJ4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjUwggLuMIICV6ADAgECAgMNNaEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA0MTAxMjAzMDQ0MFoXDTA1MTAxMjAz MDQ0MFowYjETMBEGA1UEBBMKTWNDdWxsb3VnaDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFQnJpYW4xGTAXBgNVBAMT EEJyaWFuIE1jQ3VsbG91Z2gxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWJkbWNAYmRtY2MtdXMuY29tMIIB IjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAwUh7NBHH0qjx/XGykx6hJUO+Vf6DItvO evGuzrYybuTmra8y0P8ewrXqdeLsWr0IrGNLoXKIltCx/F3WvNTPoPcpKTkBc53eT0xBnnXN ljlToJX2LyRMqTs2nrkOkVLf2IGbsUe9zymJjqUOQq6HlpPyaS7/3/7wc1L9JdVX5EGb9Op5 RseESqg6c+7wXv+uaJ5ZyqhU31gRu1hQCu6rBnDtwetRrBR6+Fg00UQ64EOomOxam9UNMofI IrQX16oQdVXwqW+s9edjFf7stYS1l93HEiW3VhalKkP/ObrgnQFv8ggsddYBlaZ19Ogsg31r 3DZ76EHyBhWQP6l9E033rQIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFiZG1jQGJkbWNjLXVzLmNv bTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAKmI1cDnZfQYBb2B/hRenhu8327X +7QxIkPYItv57oztR5+4r/WpAuKerZSsBrbK+YJ3lN22Yms9BqM2gTAovvuIB+y/UcQB10RU OWDLwtAmGR16D5BR7rp/1y6kyuubWe34cHuaIjhZhMl99cCPL7KRzPes9+LodO9Tz4CEcnCK MIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxw ZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIz NTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV 84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GU MIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50 aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkG A1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUF AAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3h YWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQ Gls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMNNaEwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA2MjgxODQ0MThaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBR3X2MZQ9MyDjhk4wLmfDYExw1CJzBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQCxS2uc5emoHyV6+35ozjTpZWJjCWbbQdue oVJqmRIGLEQdEcB+xe1a/BSAyxewJL6oxMi7nFBbh6MylTV+fCB/PSuU8PkX3NnlyXD4fJuF zqvqhKHhVX9kDv86bUXJKm2AZyiBcTy4RCBitjfYim+ogP2WNWQEGu5dLjnLlIBezogs96zn oUtmI6j5UjeYr5CbtzSFKBW8bvDH0UnQBz28pNCSQGW+H52Q009Fu6h590/LE9/DLSWo0uxu +HR14Z8IyJqZEQ9IpHeWoB483i81+6peT1mNzFAEnNlQm27qBgrxWcVqwiX5qGx2Fuk5+Obd q69LjHRRXqKSctupGbrh --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From msw@rpath.com Tue Jun 28 14:59:18 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5SIxI1e029766 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:59:18 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5SIwRl8002188 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5SIuRFd024688 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:56:27 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5SIuR7h024687 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:56:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:56:27 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:59:19 -0000 On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Which was the answer that I expected. So for this upgrade between > "versions", I just issue a "conary upgrade" ( or is that update -- I > don't have my man page here ) on the machine and wait a day or two? Or > do I need to compile a list of all troves installed on my machine and > issue individual updates for each? Since conary has a sweet grouping feature, you just do "conary update group-dist". This tells conary to update the group-dist group (and everything that it references, i.e., all the packages on the system) to the new version from the repository. The version of the group that defines rpath linux 0.25 is "group-dist=0.25-8-1". -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. 919.412.3256 msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jun 28 15:58:37 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j5SJwY1e030002 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 16448 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2005 19:57:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 19:57:33 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 15079-24 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:57:32 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050628195732.GA16423@bdmcc-us.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:58:37 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:56:27PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > Since conary has a sweet grouping feature, you just do=20 > "conary update group-dist". This tells conary to update the > group-dist group (and everything that it references, i.e., all the > packages on the system) to the new version from the repository. > The version of the group that defines rpath linux 0.25 is=20 > "group-dist=3D0.25-8-1". On its way. However, I am a little concerned -- it seems to be trying to download 483 Megabytes! I had thought that removing KDE and Gnome would help more than that. Hmmm, I guess that that is less than one CD, and the install image is two. We'll see. 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We're now entirely converted from specifix to rpath. Torrents are now available for 0.25: http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc.php?docid=29 As soon as we implement a clean way to target subsets in our torrent site, I'll add a permanent link to the download mirrors section of the wiki. Thanks, -jrr From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Jul 1 07:12:01 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j61BC01e016591 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 07:12:00 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.174] (geir-wlan.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8D6858005 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:11:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C524CB.9070602@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:11:07 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070902030502020509050409" Subject: Updated recipe for cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:12:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070902030502020509050409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have cleaned up the cyrus-sasl recipe, updated to the latest version (2.1.21, since 2.1.22 isn't released yet), added a few essential files, removed all redhat references and made the package work. I am now running rpath linux as a mail server (see my postfix mail) with TLS (thus cyrus-sasl), and dovecot as POP3/IMAP over SSL. With a small number of extra tweaks, it should be possible to make this configuration install almost "out of the box" if the distro is built with the Use.ssl flag. I would also welcome a global Use.maildir flag, just like gentoo. The dovecot recipe could need some tweaks, I will do that if I can find some spare time. 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This tells conary to update the >> group-dist group (and everything that it references, i.e., all the >> packages on the system) to the new version from the repository. >> The version of the group that defines rpath linux 0.25 is >> "group-dist=0.25-8-1". > > > On its way. However, I am a little concerned -- it seems to be > trying to download 483 Megabytes! I had thought that removing KDE and > Gnome would help more than that. Hmmm, I guess that that is less than > one CD, and the install image is two. As Matt has said, we're almost done with code to make this process much more sane. He, I, and Ken have all run it successfully. Erik From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Jul 1 13:35:11 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j61HZB1e020682 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:35:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 17918 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2005 17:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 17:34:17 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 14117-59 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:34:14 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050701173414.GA17850@bdmcc-us.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> <20050628195732.GA16423@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:35:12 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 05:12:51PM -0400, ewt@rpath.com wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Brian McCullough wrote: >=20 > >On its way. However, I am a little concerned -- it seems to be > >trying to download 483 Megabytes! I had thought that removing KDE and > >Gnome would help more than that. Hmmm, I guess that that is less than > >one CD, and the install image is two. >=20 > As Matt has said, we're almost done with code to make this process much > more sane. He, I, and Ken have all run it successfully. Thanks, Erik. I have been intending to continue the saga of the updated Thinkpad, but haven't got there yet. OK, so after it ran out of disk space, as expected, I managed to find enough, and added it to /var, since that seemed to be the area that needed it most. ( That may not be precisely true, but I was guessing, =66rom the log, and the code that I read. ) Next run produced a message about "bad magic." Run 3 went much farther and this time complained that it had run out of memory, too bad. ( messages seemed to suggest that it had eaten all of RAM and all of swap -- ( 64M and 192M respectively )) Next run ( I think we're only at 4, so far ) is still running. Each pass is taking close to a day. I suspect that I am really going to have to just forget the update process and do a re-install from CD. Speaking of which, I gather that the issue with changing partitions manually has been fixed. Is it possible to create LVM partitions and populate them during the install? -- That is, I want to, for example, create a small /boot, swap, and a large ( 5-6 G ) LVM partition. Then I want to subdivide the LVM partition into /root, /usr, /var, /home and have the install respect each. Is this reasonable at this point? 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Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:40:12 -0000 On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:43:12PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > 3) Remove sendmail from the main repository. While I strongly agree that postfix should be available (and I expect us to be using it on at least one server at some point in the future), I want it to augment, not replace sendmail. Sendmail has a lot of momentum and is also vigorously maintained by sendmail, Inc. Its recent security record (in the last few years, since it was significantly overhauled from a security standpoint) has also been good. I don't think that having both sendmail and postfix available in the same repository is a bad thing, even with file conflicts. There is nothing that says that we can't have file conflicts in the repository; you just don't want them on an installed system. We've got file conflicts between the main repository and contrib, and contrib isn't really meant to be a second-class citizen, it's just an area where we're a bit more flexible about how the software is built. So since we allow file conflicts in that context, it is hard to defend the position that we shouldn't have them within the main repository. Does that make sense to you? I don't think that we want postfix to be the default MTA in the distribution. While it is easier to configure in some respects than sendmail, sendmail is documented in many systems administration books and other guides. Postfix is less widely documented than sendmail, and I have not found that it is trivial to configure correctly, relative to using commented sendmail.m4 files. I would suggest that if we're going to change the *default* MTA, we should probably change to exim, not postfix. I know that there are a lot of people using exim as a local MTA that have told me that it is very easy to configure, and I'd think that we should consider it as the default MTA. These are smart people who do not want to waste time playing with their MTA because they want to spend time on other things. > I have created a clean postfix recipe for the latest version of postfix. > I have also created a separate recipe for pflogsumm (a log analyzer for > postfix). There are a number of nice addons to postfix and I can be > persuaded to pack them as well. There are a few glitches in the > cyrus-sasl package that prevents TLS from working (eg. > /etc/init.d/saslauthd is missing), but this affects sendmail as well. Please commit your postfix update to the main repository, and pflogsumm (and other postfix addons) to the contrib repository. I've committed the trivial fix to cyrus-sasl to include /etc/init.d/saslauthd -- what are the other glitches? Let's get them fixed and then we can rebuild and solve the problem. Thanks for looking into this! From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Jul 1 17:53:34 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j61LrY1e022239 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:53:34 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j61LqgL4018953 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j61LoFFd016795 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:50:15 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j61LoELk016794 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:50:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:50:14 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050701215014.GB15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42C524CB.9070602@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C524CB.9070602@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Updated recipe for cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:53:34 -0000 On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:11:07PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Hello, I have cleaned up the cyrus-sasl recipe, updated to the latest > version (2.1.21, since 2.1.22 isn't released yet), added a few essential > files, removed all redhat references and made the package work. Thank you! Sorry I missed this mail when responding to your earlier mail. It's wonderful seeing a cleaned-up simplification. I have committed it with only minor stylistic changes (like using dest= in addSource). > I am now running rpath linux as a mail server (see my postfix mail) with > TLS (thus cyrus-sasl), and dovecot as POP3/IMAP over SSL. With a small > number of extra tweaks, it should be possible to make this configuration > install almost "out of the box" if the distro is built with the Use.ssl > flag. That would be very good. > I would also welcome a global Use.maildir flag, just like gentoo. Hmm, that would make sense to me. Any objections from anyone else? > The dovecot recipe could need some tweaks, I will do that if I can find > some spare time. Well, your cyrus-sasl cleanups sure look nice, so I'll definitely look forward to dovecot tweaks if you locate any spare time. :-) Thanks! From msw@rpath.com Fri Jul 1 18:01:17 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j61M1H1e022318 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:01:17 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j61M0Ol8017988 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j61LvvFd017334 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:57:57 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j61LvvDI017333 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:57:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:57:57 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050701215757.GA2522@rpath.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> <20050628195732.GA16423@bdmcc-us.com> <20050701173414.GA17850@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050701173414.GA17850@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:01:17 -0000 On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:34:14PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Next run produced a message about "bad magic." Were you doing something like "conary update foo" where foo was a local file? > Run 3 went much farther and this time complained that it had run out of > memory, too bad. ( messages seemed to suggest that it had eaten all of > RAM and all of swap -- ( 64M and 192M respectively )) Yes, conary can grow over 200 MB currently when doing something like updating the whole system. > I suspect that I am really going to have to just forget the update > process and do a re-install from CD. Speaking of which, I gather that > the issue with changing partitions manually has been fixed.] Yes, that should work in 0.25. > Is it possible to create LVM partitions and populate them during > the install? Creating LVM partitions should also work. You define LVM PVs, LVs, and volumes the same as you do in Fedora/Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Jul 1 19:33:28 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j61NXS1e024095 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:33:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 20563 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2005 23:32:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 23:32:33 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 18877-26 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:32:32 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050701233232.GA20472@bdmcc-us.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> <20050628195732.GA16423@bdmcc-us.com> <20050701173414.GA17850@bdmcc-us.com> <20050701215757.GA2522@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050701215757.GA2522@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:33:28 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 05:57:57PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:34:14PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > >=20 > > Next run produced a message about "bad magic." >=20 > Were you doing something like "conary update foo" where foo was a > local file? Nope. Just the command that you gave me. "conary update group-dist=3D0.25..." > > Run 3 went much farther and this time complained that it had run out of > > memory, too bad. ( messages seemed to suggest that it had eaten all of > > RAM and all of swap -- ( 64M and 192M respectively )) >=20 > Yes, conary can grow over 200 MB currently when doing something like > updating the whole system. So this poor little machine of mine has no hope at the moment. B-) > > Is it possible to create LVM partitions and populate them during > > the install? >=20 > Creating LVM partitions should also work. You define LVM PVs, LVs, and > volumes the same as you do in Fedora/Red Hat Enterprise Linux. But that is possible during the install, correct? 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I did some work today with installing from the CDs, since I was not able to upgrade in place. As promised, Disk Druid is much more usable. However ( you heard that coming, didn't you? ), it's not quite there yet. Actually, it isn't just Disk Druid. OK, chain of events. Either X mode or Text mode. ( Text mode Disk Druid says that it can't edit LVM information. ) I work through the steps leading up to partitioning without any issues. I choose manual partitioning. I delete all partitions successfully. I create a 20MB /boot. ( Later on, the installer tells me that rpath Linux does not want to accept that -- I go back and increase this to 78 ( 81 ) MB. ) I create a 192MB swap. I allocate the rest of the disk ( 5.6 GB or so ) to LVM. I create a volume group and four logical volumes: / at 100 MB ( installer complains and I increase it to 250 ) /usr at 2500 MB /var at 400 MB /home at 500 MB ( Remember these numbers ) I exit Disk Druid. I am told that because I have very little memory, swap needs to be started, so the installer wants to write my partition table right away. I agree. At this point we go through GRUB, Languages and Time Zone setting. Finally, we hit the "commit" point and proceed with the installation. Only we don't! The system happily formats the /boot partition, but when it comes to format the logical volumes, it stops and presents a fatal error to the user, saying that it can't find any such "partition" to format. The only option at this point is to reboot. Starting again, go through the steps leading up to Disk Druid. Find that while the "real" partitions are shown, no mount points are shown. OK, just edit to fix that. However, while the names of the logical volumes are shown, their file type is "foreign", no mount point is shown, and, most interestingly, the sizes are 10% of what was originally chosen. In other words, / is showing 25M, /usr is showing 250M, etc. The only editing possible is to delete them and start again. Dropping to a shell shows that the allocations are actually correct and that no editing was necessary. Leave Disk Druid and write the partition table. Drop to a shell. Run vgscan, it finds the volume group. Run "vgchange -a y" -- all logical volumes found and activated. Format the logical volumes, check the resulting sizes, all OK. Resume installation. Go up to the "go" point -- crash. Same failure -- can't format logical volume, no such device. Drop to shell -- logical volumes are INactive. I went through this five or six times, trying both the graphical and text installs. No difference. Not quite sure where to go from here. Probably re-install 0.24. 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Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:59:21 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j63EwSY4012848 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j63EtlFd012716 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:47 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j63EtltZ012715 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:47 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050703145546.GB23274@rpath.com> References: <42C072E0.1030703@rpath.com> <20050628172925.GA14674@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628183418.GB17707@rpath.com> <20050628184419.GA15462@bdmcc-us.com> <20050628185627.GC17707@rpath.com> <20050628195732.GA16423@bdmcc-us.com> <20050701173414.GA17850@bdmcc-us.com> <20050701215757.GA2522@rpath.com> <20050701233232.GA20472@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050701233232.GA20472@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: rpath Linux 0.25 (ALPHA) available for x86 and x86_64 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:59:22 -0000 On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 07:32:32PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Nope. Just the command that you gave me. "conary update > group-dist=0.25..." Hmm.. might have been a corrupted download. > So this poor little machine of mine has no hope at the moment. Yea, getting memory usage back down is on the TODO list, but behind some other items. > > Creating LVM partitions should also work. You define LVM PVs, LVs, and > > volumes the same as you do in Fedora/Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > > But that is possible during the install, correct? Correct. > I have done all of that work on the current install "after-the-fact" but > was wondering whether it was possible at the "Disk Druid" step? It worked for me (and some other users) last time I tried it. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From chaos@in.fer.no Sun Jul 3 20:12:02 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j640C11e022254 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:12:02 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.20] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537EF85800F for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:11:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:11:09 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:12:02 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > So since we allow file conflicts in that context, it is > hard to defend the position that we shouldn't have them within the > main repository. Does that make sense to you? Sure, this makes sense to me :-) Can conary create dependencies on a file? We have a number of packages (mutt, inn, squirrelmail, at, nail) that depends on sendmail, but I guess they only need a /usr/bin/sendmail for sending mail. > Please commit your postfix update to the main repository, and pflogsumm > (and other postfix addons) to the contrib repository. This is good news, I will work on the recipes. Thanks Geir From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 07:39:36 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64Bda1e025393 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:39:36 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j64BchBH024062 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64BZrFd021133 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:35:54 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j64BZrR5021132 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:35:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:35:49 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:39:36 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 02:11:09AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Sure, this makes sense to me :-) Cool. :) > Can conary create dependencies on a file? We have a number of packages > (mutt, inn, squirrelmail, at, nail) that depends on sendmail, but I > guess they only need a /usr/bin/sendmail for sending mail. It can, but the files need to be explicitly provided. We don't automatically provide every path, because the infrastructure to support rename makes path dependencies expensive: r.Provies('file', '%(bindir)s/sendmail') From ewtlists@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 09:19:58 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64DJv1e025707 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:19:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j64DJ4BH000294 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64DGFFd022063 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:16:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id j64DGFVF022060 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:16:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lambchop.rdu.rpath.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:16:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ewtlists@rpath.com X-X-Sender: ewt@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Message-ID: References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:19:58 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > It can, but the files need to be explicitly provided. We don't > automatically provide every path, because the infrastructure to > support rename makes path dependencies expensive: > r.Provies('file', '%(bindir)s/sendmail') Not quite... When every file can be the target of a dependency, dependency resolution needs complete file lists to check for closure. Those lists are quite large, around 9MB on my system. Fwiw, anaconda for RPM uses all sorts of hacks to get around this problem; part of the process of generating the hdlist is to rewrite filelists is limiting it to files which are the targets of dependencies. We can't take that sort of an approach since we don't have the same closed package set anaconda gets. Erik From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Mon Jul 4 09:57:24 2005 Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64DvO1e025838 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:57:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (cpe-024-211-128-223.nc.res.rr.com [24.211.128.223]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED56793231 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: seth vidal To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:58:21 -0400 Message-Id: <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:57:24 -0000 On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 09:16 -0400, ewtlists@rpath.com wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > It can, but the files need to be explicitly provided. We don't > > automatically provide every path, because the infrastructure to > > support rename makes path dependencies expensive: > > r.Provies('file', '%(bindir)s/sendmail') > > Not quite... When every file can be the target of a dependency, dependency > resolution needs complete file lists to check for closure. Those lists are > quite large, around 9MB on my system. > > Fwiw, anaconda for RPM uses all sorts of hacks to get around this problem; > part of the process of generating the hdlist is to rewrite filelists is > limiting it to files which are the targets of dependencies. We can't take > that sort of an approach since we don't have the same closed package set > anaconda gets. > In yum with the xml metadata we took a different approach. We took a survey of packages from rpmfind and looked at what the most common file-deps were. We then came up with a glob list that matched something like 95% of them. The list is: /etc/* *bin/* /usr/lib/sendmail Then you can just include the files that, quite frankly, you're most likely to hit. This lets us include those files in the smaller primary.xml file and have the complete filelists be pulled in only in odd situations. And it tells us immediately where we should look. If we know we have a file dep and we know it doesn't match the above globs then we look in the complete filelists. If it does match the globs and we haven't found it then we can stop searching b/c it is just not there. dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably well. -sv From laroche@redhat.com Mon Jul 4 10:09:55 2005 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64E9t1e025886 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:09:55 -0400 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64E94Ec004086 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:09:04 -0400 Received: from pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com (pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com [172.16.2.10]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j64E94V23386 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:09:04 -0400 Received: from dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (dhcp-2-42.stuttgart.redhat.com [172.16.2.42]) by pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j64E937u011026; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:09:03 +0200 Received: from dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j64EAO0h005929; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:10:24 +0200 Received: (from laroche@localhost) by dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j64EAKes005925; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:10:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:10:20 +0200 From: Florian La Roche To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704141020.GA5919@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: pknirsch@redhat.com Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:09:56 -0000 > In yum with the xml metadata we took a different approach. We took a > survey of packages from rpmfind and looked at what the most common > file-deps were. We then came up with a glob list that matched something > like 95% of them. The list is: > /etc/* > *bin/* > /usr/lib/sendmail > > Then you can just include the files that, quite frankly, you're most > likely to hit. This lets us include those files in the smaller > primary.xml file and have the complete filelists be pulled in only in > odd situations. And it tells us immediately where we should look. If we > know we have a file dep and we know it doesn't match the above globs > then we look in the complete filelists. If it does match the globs and > we haven't found it then we can stop searching b/c it is just not there. > > dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably > well. We now have packages in the core set that have further dependencies, so the fallback case to look at the complete data might get used way more often than in the past. You could add an option to createrepo to actually do a two-pass over the data to at least include all required deps that occur in the repo itself and make sure those also get included in addition to the regex that is currently in the source code (and/or also change the regex to include those cases found by looking at Requires:) I think I have seen a Red Hat bugzilla on this together with a patch to implement this in createrepo. Phil will also write things up for the meta-data/yum mailinglists to suggest this. greetings, Florian La Roche From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 10:19:47 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64EJl1e025919 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:19:47 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j64EIsBH013982 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64EG4Fd022756 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:16:04 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j64EG4uL022755 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:16:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:16:04 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:19:47 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:58:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably > well. Would be trivial to automatically provide those files, but we talked about it, and Erik says it's still too big a hit on dependency resolution; he has said that consistenly each time I have brought up the idea. :-) From ewtlists@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 11:08:54 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64F8s1e026085 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:08:54 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j64F81BH024393 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64F5BFd023930 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:05:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id j64F5Bsu023927 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:05:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lambchop.rdu.rpath.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: ewtlists@rpath.com X-X-Sender: ewt@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Message-ID: References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:08:54 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:58:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: >> dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably >> well. > > Would be trivial to automatically provide those files, but we > talked about it, and Erik says it's still too big a hit on > dependency resolution; he has said that consistenly each time > I have brought up the idea. :-) When I wrote the hdlist hack for anaconda I mentioned before (in 2000 probably) all of Red Hat Linux depended on about 25 different paths. Out of curiousity, I just did a count of the 3853 binary rpms which are Mandrake (don't ask; it just turned out to be easy to do). Here's what I found: * Number of files: 560422 * Targets of dependencies: 59 * Files caught by svidal's filter: 11416[1] So, with a filter like Seth's, 99.5% of the provides we'd create are false hits. I think I've convinced even more that tagging files which can be the target of dependecies is the right way to go. Erik [1] I turned the globs into egrep -- (^/etc/|.*bin/|/usr/lib/sendmail). I wouldn't want to promise I got that right. From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Mon Jul 4 15:40:38 2005 Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64Jec1e026867 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:40:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (cpe-024-211-128-223.nc.res.rr.com [24.211.128.223]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021F793268 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: seth vidal To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:41:35 -0400 Message-Id: <1120506096.18966.36.camel@cutter> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:40:38 -0000 On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 11:05 -0400, ewtlists@rpath.com wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:58:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > >> dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably > >> well. > > > > Would be trivial to automatically provide those files, but we > > talked about it, and Erik says it's still too big a hit on > > dependency resolution; he has said that consistenly each time > > I have brought up the idea. :-) > > When I wrote the hdlist hack for anaconda I mentioned before (in 2000 probably) > all of Red Hat Linux depended on about 25 different paths. Out of curiousity, > I just did a count of the 3853 binary rpms which are Mandrake (don't ask; it > just turned out to be easy to do). Here's what I found: > > * Number of files: 560422 > * Targets of dependencies: 59 > * Files caught by svidal's filter: 11416[1] is this 11416 unique files or 11416 total? Also is 11416 entries really all the much to search through? It seems pretty trivial. -sv From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Jul 4 15:53:08 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j64Jr81e026904 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:53:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 30326 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 19:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2005 19:52:12 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 17229-118 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:52:10 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:53:08 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I have just installed a "minimum" installation of 0.25 and have been filling in holes to make a usable machine. One of the missing pieces was "mutt", which when I tried to install it, told me that "cyrus-sasl" was needed. I re-ran "conary update --resolve mutt" which claimed to be successful. However, when I try to run mutt, I get a complaint that "libsasl.so.7" can not be found, and "find" agrees that there is no copy of "libsasl.anything" installed. Hmmm. I just tried "conary update --resolve cyrus-sasl" and am told that "Troves being removed create unresolved dependencies" and tells me that mutt:runtime is dependent on ELF32/libsasl.so.7. I thought that I was trying to "add" not "remove"??? OK, so I "conary erase" mutt, followed by "conary update cyrus-sasl", both successful. I find in /usr/lib "libsasl2.", not "libsasl". I go ahead and "conary update mutt" which complains that "additional troves are needed: mutt:runtime -> cyrus-sasl:plain(1.5.28-1-1)". I am having similar issues with firefox and thunderbird, which I will describe in another message. 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I installed xorg-x11, and xorg-x11-*. I also installed Firefox and Thunderbird successfully. When I come to run either one, though, I get a complete failure in two messages. The first message is a complaint like: "Fontconfig: can't load default=20 configuration file", followed by a segfault on line 159 of=20 "run-mozilla.sh". As always, tell me what information would be useful, and I will be happy to supply. 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I re-ran "conary update --resolve > mutt" which claimed to be successful. > > However, when I try to run mutt, I get a complaint that "libsasl.so.7" > can not be found, and "find" agrees that there is no copy of > "libsasl.anything" installed. Strange, somehow mutt is depending on sasl1. I can't find any traces of sasl1 support in rpath at all (only sasl2), so how mutt was built in the first place puzzles me. The solution is to rebuild mutt with sasl2. Here is a quick patch (untested, it builds, but I have not tested the binary): --- mutt.recipe.orginal 2005-07-04 22:29:34.000000000 +0200 +++ mutt.recipe 2005-07-04 22:41:30.000000000 +0200 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ name = 'mutt' version = '1.4.2.1' - buildRequires = [ 'cyrus-sasl:devel=:cyrus-sasl1', + buildRequires = [ 'cyrus-sasl:devel', 'krb5:devel', 'sendmail:runtime', 'autoconf:runtime', @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ extraConfig += ' --with-ssl' if Use.krb: extraConfig += ' --with-gss=%(krbprefix)s' - r.Configure(' --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl' + r.Configure(' --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl2' ' --disable-warnings --with-ncursesw --disable-domain' ' --disable-flock --enable-fcntl' ' --with-mailpath=%(servicedir)s/spool/mail' + extraConfig) The next question is why mutt should be a part of a minimal installation at all? Best Regards Geir From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Jul 4 17:30:15 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j64LUF1e027256 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:30:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 30816 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 21:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2005 21:29:20 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 17227-124 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:29:17 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704212917.GA30788@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:30:15 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Strange, somehow mutt is depending on sasl1. I can't find any traces of= =20 > sasl1 support in rpath at all (only sasl2), so how mutt was built in the= =20 > first place puzzles me. The solution is to rebuild mutt with sasl2. Here= =20 I copied my mutt binary from the 0.24 installation and created a link =66rom libsasl2 to libsasl.so.7 and it appears to work correctly, so your solution is almost undoubtedly right. > The next question is why mutt should be a part of a minimal installation= =20 > at all? Oh, it isn't. I am just adding troves to my minimal installation to make it a working installation. I have been running into quite a few interesting issues by doing this. When I installed 0.24, I used the "Everything" option, and then deleted a lot of troves, so tried Minimal this time. It appears that I want a "not Everything, but definitely not Minimal" installation, since Minimal didn't include much networking support ( for a laptop ) and there were quite a few other items that I am having to install. > Best Regards > Geir And to you, Brian --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIojCCCJ4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjUwggLuMIICV6ADAgECAgMNNaEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA0MTAxMjAzMDQ0MFoXDTA1MTAxMjAz MDQ0MFowYjETMBEGA1UEBBMKTWNDdWxsb3VnaDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFQnJpYW4xGTAXBgNVBAMT EEJyaWFuIE1jQ3VsbG91Z2gxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWJkbWNAYmRtY2MtdXMuY29tMIIB IjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAwUh7NBHH0qjx/XGykx6hJUO+Vf6DItvO evGuzrYybuTmra8y0P8ewrXqdeLsWr0IrGNLoXKIltCx/F3WvNTPoPcpKTkBc53eT0xBnnXN ljlToJX2LyRMqTs2nrkOkVLf2IGbsUe9zymJjqUOQq6HlpPyaS7/3/7wc1L9JdVX5EGb9Op5 RseESqg6c+7wXv+uaJ5ZyqhU31gRu1hQCu6rBnDtwetRrBR6+Fg00UQ64EOomOxam9UNMofI IrQX16oQdVXwqW+s9edjFf7stYS1l93HEiW3VhalKkP/ObrgnQFv8ggsddYBlaZ19Ogsg31r 3DZ76EHyBhWQP6l9E033rQIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFiZG1jQGJkbWNjLXVzLmNv bTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAKmI1cDnZfQYBb2B/hRenhu8327X +7QxIkPYItv57oztR5+4r/WpAuKerZSsBrbK+YJ3lN22Yms9BqM2gTAovvuIB+y/UcQB10RU OWDLwtAmGR16D5BR7rp/1y6kyuubWe34cHuaIjhZhMl99cCPL7KRzPes9+LodO9Tz4CEcnCK MIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxw ZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIz NTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV 84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GU MIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50 aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkG A1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUF AAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3h YWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQ Gls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMNNaEwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA3MDQyMTI5MTdaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRn+zitD71t0yrpTu9usPS7P70qgzBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQApo4/XkOXx8eDuDTEXyKEhZU2nvr2vKXUO Tt6OXOgxmo3SUthatY4TezD9raAlk7SRshJArWjydTpprNO+fw9WxHLTmtXXCImkG+JVGfWF DqUpOpXlssRgSVSw6aWvbHu3Wbi5L5Pm6fLXakSIAdD1vahZFvkjw+5XO9z7xaw2vyYHZfeZ Rnvbk0xmsdSKnFGRFDasP2kYK93CV3iu6I2xcmqoiOw04InZbhF+GgFB/YkP1i6H/Aks/9SC Obv/wLW3eux1rhEcTamSsXO7zEDhrl93oD9Fb3bASAJ5zL4tv+jIsWLRtGjJ/b3fNUgzk3ze gyIWn69hKyGD0lPd+e7+ --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From chaos@in.fer.no Mon Jul 4 18:12:51 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64MCo1e027363 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:12:51 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.20] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410C685800F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:11:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C9B42E.8030600@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:11:58 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050704212917.GA30788@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20050704212917.GA30788@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:12:51 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > > I copied my mutt binary from the 0.24 installation and created a link > from libsasl2 to libsasl.so.7 and it appears to work correctly, so your > solution is almost undoubtedly right. > No, that will not work, sasl1 and sasl2 are two different libs. Your fix will make mutt start, but I guess it will fail if you try to configure it to download mails from a POP3S or IMAP4S server or send mails trough a SMTP server with TLS (if that is supported by mutt). Mutt depends on sendmail, so chances are that it just uses /usr/sbin/sendmail. The real fix is to get mutt compiled with sasl2 instead of sasl1. BTW: group-dist.recipe and group-dist-source.recipe both have references to sasl1, which should be removed. Have fun, Geir From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Jul 4 18:29:27 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j64MTJ1e027406 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:29:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 31107 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 22:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2005 22:28:19 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 17229-128 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:28:18 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050704222818.GA31077@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050704212917.GA30788@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9B42E.8030600@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C9B42E.8030600@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:29:27 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 12:11:58AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Brian McCullough wrote: > > > >I copied my mutt binary from the 0.24 installation and created a link > >from libsasl2 to libsasl.so.7 and it appears to work correctly, so your > >solution is almost undoubtedly right. > > >=20 > No, that will not work, sasl1 and sasl2 are two different libs. Your fix= =20 > will make mutt start, but I guess it will fail if you try to configure=20 > it to download mails from a POP3S or IMAP4S server or send mails trough= =20 > a SMTP server with TLS (if that is supported by mutt). Mutt depends on=20 > sendmail, so chances are that it just uses /usr/sbin/sendmail. You're up late. B-) Sorry, what I meant was that I agreed that your solution was correct, since I was able to get mutt to at least start with a simple mis-direction of one library. I agree that that is not the real solution, but that yours should be. 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Johnson wrote: > > > > > It can, but the files need to be explicitly provided. We don't > > > automatically provide every path, because the infrastructure to > > > support rename makes path dependencies expensive: > > > r.Provies('file', '%(bindir)s/sendmail') > > > > Not quite... When every file can be the target of a dependency, dependency > > resolution needs complete file lists to check for closure. Those lists are > > quite large, around 9MB on my system. > > > > Fwiw, anaconda for RPM uses all sorts of hacks to get around this problem; > > part of the process of generating the hdlist is to rewrite filelists is > > limiting it to files which are the targets of dependencies. We can't take > > that sort of an approach since we don't have the same closed package set > > anaconda gets. > > > > In yum with the xml metadata we took a different approach. We took a > survey of packages from rpmfind and looked at what the most common > file-deps were. We then came up with a glob list that matched something > like 95% of them. The list is: > /etc/* > *bin/* > /usr/lib/sendmail > > Then you can just include the files that, quite frankly, you're most > likely to hit. This lets us include those files in the smaller > primary.xml file and have the complete filelists be pulled in only in > odd situations. And it tells us immediately where we should look. If we > know we have a file dep and we know it doesn't match the above globs > then we look in the complete filelists. If it does match the globs and > we haven't found it then we can stop searching b/c it is just not there. > > dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably > well. > > -sv The file list could be exploded on the server: http://example.com/repo/provides/usr/lib/sendmail sendmail-8.13.1-2.i386.rpm postfix-2.0.11-5.i386.rpm HTTP 404 == no package provides the file you depend on HTTP 200 == a list of packages, one per line, that provide this file If there are only ~59 file deps in an entire distro, this can't get too slow. You could even HTTP pipeline request all 59 deps at once... From msw@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 23:06:28 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6536S1e028185 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:06:28 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j6535Zl8002433 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6532eFd028824 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:02:40 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j6532d5h028823 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:02:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:02:39 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> References: <20050704201505.GA30461@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050704201505.GA30461@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Minimum 0.25, Firefox and Thunderbird X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:06:28 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 04:15:05PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > The first message is a complaint like: "Fontconfig: can't load default > configuration file", followed by a segfault on line 159 of > "run-mozilla.sh". You probably need fontconfig:runtime and bitstream-vera-fonts Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From msw@rpath.com Mon Jul 4 23:19:33 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j653JW1e028244 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:19:32 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j653Idl8011151 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j653FiFd028928 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:15:44 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j653FiTK028927 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:15:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:15:44 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705031544.GC28718@rpath.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:19:33 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Brian McCullough wrote: > >One of the missing pieces was "mutt", which when I tried to install it, > >told me that "cyrus-sasl" was needed. I re-ran "conary update --resolve > >mutt" which claimed to be successful. > > > >However, when I try to run mutt, I get a complaint that "libsasl.so.7" > >can not be found, and "find" agrees that there is no copy of > >"libsasl.anything" installed. > > Strange, somehow mutt is depending on sasl1. I can't find any traces of > sasl1 support in rpath at all (only sasl2), so how mutt was built in the > first place puzzles me. The solution is to rebuild mutt with sasl2. Here > is a quick patch (untested, it builds, but I have not tested the binary): sasl1 is on the conary.rpath.com@rpl:cyrus-sasl1 label [root@localhost ~]# conary q cyrus-sasl --full-versions cyrus-sasl /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/2.1.19-8-1 cyrus-sasl /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/1.5.28-1-0/cyrus-sasl1/6-1 You have mail in /home/devel/msw/cvs/cvs.gnome.org/evince/ [root@localhost ~]# conary rq cyrus-sasl=conary.rpath.com@rpl:cyrus-sasl1 cyrus-sasl 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:devel 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:devellib 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:doc 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:gssapi 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:lib 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:md5 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:plain 1.5.28-6-1 cyrus-sasl:runtime 1.5.28-6-1 You should be able to install both cyrus-sasl1 and cyrus-sasl2 at the same time by using --keep-existing. -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Jul 5 05:17:17 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j659HG1e029582 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:17:17 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.20] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73948580AB for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:16:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CA4FE7.1020501@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:16:23 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050705031544.GC28718@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705031544.GC28718@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:17:17 -0000 Matt Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: >>Strange, somehow mutt is depending on sasl1. I can't find any traces of >>sasl1 support in rpath at all (only sasl2), so how mutt was built in the >>first place puzzles me. > > sasl1 is on the conary.rpath.com@rpl:cyrus-sasl1 label > Eureka! >> The solution is to rebuild mutt with sasl2. Here is a quick patch I still think this is the right solution. There is no good reason (that I can think of) for linking mutt against the old version of sasl. Best Regards Geir From laroche@redhat.com Tue Jul 5 05:18:09 2005 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j659I91e029594 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:18:09 -0400 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j659HINK009060 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:17:18 -0400 Received: from pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com (pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com [172.16.2.10]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j659HHV22102 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:17:17 -0400 Received: from dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (dhcp-2-42.stuttgart.redhat.com [172.16.2.42]) by pobox.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j659HF7u029813 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:17:16 +0200 Received: from dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j659IdNj003321 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:18:39 +0200 Received: (from laroche@localhost) by dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j659IY67003317 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:18:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:18:34 +0200 From: Florian La Roche To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705091834.GA3201@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:18:09 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:05:06AM -0400, ewtlists@rpath.com wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > >On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:58:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > >>dunno if that's possible to setup for conary but it works reasonably > >>well. > > > >Would be trivial to automatically provide those files, but we > >talked about it, and Erik says it's still too big a hit on > >dependency resolution; he has said that consistenly each time > >I have brought up the idea. :-) > > When I wrote the hdlist hack for anaconda I mentioned before (in 2000 > probably) > all of Red Hat Linux depended on about 25 different paths. Out of > curiousity, > I just did a count of the 3853 binary rpms which are Mandrake (don't ask; it > just turned out to be easy to do). Here's what I found: > > * Number of files: 560422 > * Targets of dependencies: 59 > * Files caught by svidal's filter: 11416[1] > > So, with a filter like Seth's, 99.5% of the provides we'd create are false > hits. I think I've convinced even more that tagging files which can be the > target of dependecies is the right way to go. Hello Erik, In the rpm case we can limit the list via the repodata, but then need a fallback to the full filelists. While the glob list is right now hardcoded in yum/createrepo, a per-repo setting should allow a long glob list that is the 0.5% from above, then the same data as file provides (which should then reduce the data to 1% in your example). Then your 99.5% false hits go down to 0% and you only have to worry about further addon packages which are using further file dependencies. Then these items can go into automatic search tools, config setting at the time the repo is setup or also rpm tags sepcifying which files should get added for the repodata. This would allow yum/rpm to furthe reduce data transfers and RAM requirements, even if we always have to keep the fallback to the full data. On the packaging side we have a trend to add further file dependencies as they are often easier to specify than package dependencies. Mostly due to moving way to many files into new rpm subpackages and renaming them. Sorry for keeping on the rpm side which is probably a bit offtopic for this list, Florian La Roche > > Erik > > [1] I turned the globs into egrep -- (^/etc/|.*bin/|/usr/lib/sendmail). I > wouldn't want to promise I got that right. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From ewt@rpath.com Tue Jul 5 10:13:40 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65EDe1e030373 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:13:40 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j65ECkY4019493 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65E9jFd002406 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:09:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id j65E9jb0002403 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:09:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lambchop.rdu.rpath.com: ewt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ewt@rpath.com X-X-Sender: ewt@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <1120506096.18966.36.camel@cutter> Message-ID: References: <42B9DB70.8070800@in.fer.no> <20050701213652.GA15625@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42C87E9D.7020809@in.fer.no> <20050704113548.GA21112@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120485501.18966.9.camel@cutter> <20050704141603.GA22742@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1120506096.18966.36.camel@cutter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:03:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Postfix and alternatives X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:13:40 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, seth vidal wrote: >> * Number of files: 560422 >> * Targets of dependencies: 59 >> * Files caught by svidal's filter: 11416[1] > > is this 11416 unique files or 11416 total? > > Also is 11416 entries really all the much to search through? It seems pretty trivial. It may be total, but any overlap is a bug in Mandrake. All of those extra provides are a lot of extra work to sort through for no benefit. Erik From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Jul 5 11:04:32 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65F4W1e030526 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:04:32 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j65F3bl8001873 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65F0YFd004115 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:00:34 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j65F0YDE004114 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:00:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:00:34 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705150034.GA3996@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050705031544.GC28718@rpath.com> <42CA4FE7.1020501@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CA4FE7.1020501@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:04:32 -0000 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 11:16:23AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > I still think this is the right solution. There is no good reason (that > I can think of) for linking mutt against the old version of sasl. It was legacy -- thanks for pointing this out. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have cyrus-sasl 1 available, but you are right that we should build mutt against the new cyrus-sasl. From msw@rpath.com Tue Jul 5 11:07:41 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65F7f1e030556 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:41 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j65F6kl8004768 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65F3hFd004153 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:43 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j65F3hkb004152 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:43 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705150343.GA2864@rpath.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050705031544.GC28718@rpath.com> <42CA4FE7.1020501@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CA4FE7.1020501@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:07:41 -0000 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 11:16:23AM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > > I still think this is the right solution. There is no good reason (that > I can think of) for linking mutt against the old version of sasl. Me either. We had a good reason for doing it at the time, but I can't recall what it was. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Jul 5 12:30:06 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65GU61e030756 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:30:06 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j65GTCBH008750 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65GQDFd007459 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:26:13 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j65GQDBw007458 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:26:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:26:13 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705162612.GA7425@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:30:06 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > first place puzzles me. The solution is to rebuild mutt with sasl2. Here > is a quick patch (untested, it builds, but I have not tested the binary): > > --- mutt.recipe.orginal 2005-07-04 22:29:34.000000000 +0200 > +++ mutt.recipe 2005-07-04 22:41:30.000000000 +0200 > @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ > name = 'mutt' > version = '1.4.2.1' > > - buildRequires = [ 'cyrus-sasl:devel=:cyrus-sasl1', > + buildRequires = [ 'cyrus-sasl:devel', > 'krb5:devel', > 'sendmail:runtime', > 'autoconf:runtime', > @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ > extraConfig += ' --with-ssl' > if Use.krb: > extraConfig += ' --with-gss=%(krbprefix)s' > - r.Configure(' --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl' > + r.Configure(' --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl2' > ' --disable-warnings --with-ncursesw --disable-domain' > ' --disable-flock --enable-fcntl' > ' --with-mailpath=%(servicedir)s/spool/mail' + > extraConfig) It builds because it ignores the unrecognized --with-sasl2 config option, and builds entirely without sasl support. I think this might be why we are using sasl 1 for mutt... From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Jul 5 15:21:25 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65JLP1e031434 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:21:25 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.20] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8C8858031 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CADD7D.60801@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:20:29 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050705162612.GA7425@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705162612.GA7425@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:21:25 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > It builds because it ignores the unrecognized --with-sasl2 config > option, and builds entirely without sasl support. > > I think this might be why we are using sasl 1 for mutt... I was a bit quick, I thought the "mutt-sasl.patch" was the patch from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126724. I was wrong, sorry. If we want to get rid of sasl1 we can use the patch from bugzilla. Best Regards Geir From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Jul 5 16:10:31 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65KAU1e031756 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:10:31 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j65K9aL4024646 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65K6Yag018934 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:06:34 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j65K6YHE018933 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:06:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:06:34 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050705200634.GA18491@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050704195209.GA30199@bdmcc-us.com> <42C9A131.5000802@in.fer.no> <20050705162612.GA7425@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <42CADD7D.60801@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CADD7D.60801@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: 0.25, Mutt and cyrus-sasl X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:10:31 -0000 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:20:29PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > I was a bit quick, I thought the "mutt-sasl.patch" was the patch from > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126724. I was > wrong, sorry. If we want to get rid of sasl1 we can use the patch from > bugzilla. Indeed. Thanks, it does seem to work. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jul 5 22:10:12 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j662A51e000405 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:10:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 5901 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2005 02:09:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2005 02:09:04 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 01166-55 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bard.bdmcc-us.com (HELO ?192.168.1.123?) (192.168.1.123) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2005 02:09:02 -0000 Message-ID: <42CB3D00.8030207@bdmcc-us.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:08:00 -0400 From: Brian McCullough User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050704201505.GA30461@bdmcc-us.com> <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Minimum 0.25, Firefox and Thunderbird X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:10:13 -0000 Matt Wilson wrote: >On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 04:15:05PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > >>The first message is a complaint like: "Fontconfig: can't load default >>configuration file", followed by a segfault on line 159 of >>"run-mozilla.sh". >> >> > >You probably need fontconfig:runtime and bitstream-vera-fonts > > Correct. I also needed to install Pango. Both Firefox and Thunderbird are working fine. >Cheers, > >Matt > > Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Jul 7 19:57:46 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j67Nvj1e011460 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:57:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 19620 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2005 23:56:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 23:56:48 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 14742-55 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:56:47 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050707235647.GA19571@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050704201505.GA30461@bdmcc-us.com> <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Minimum 0.25, Firefox and Thunderbird X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:57:46 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:02:39PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: >=20 > You probably need fontconfig:runtime and bitstream-vera-fonts Incidentally, I noticed both with these programs and with some others that I am adding to make my system usable, that I needed to run ldconfig manually after the libraries were loaded by conary before the programs would properly run. 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Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:30:59 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j681U4Y4012601 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j681Qiag031814 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:26:44 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j681QiNB031813 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:26:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:26:44 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050708012644.GA27308@rpath.com> References: <20050704201505.GA30461@bdmcc-us.com> <20050705030239.GB28718@rpath.com> <20050707235647.GA19571@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050707235647.GA19571@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Minimum 0.25, Firefox and Thunderbird X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:30:59 -0000 On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:02:39PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > > > > You probably need fontconfig:runtime and bitstream-vera-fonts > > > Incidentally, I noticed both with these programs and with some others > that I am adding to make my system usable, that I needed to run ldconfig > manually after the libraries were loaded by conary before the programs > would properly run. That's very strange. conary is supposed to run ldconfig for you. -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From mark@marktrompell.de Wed Jul 27 09:01:15 2005 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6RD1E1e012585 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:01:15 -0400 Received: from p50829387.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.130.147.135] (helo=[192.168.0.50]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1DxlW91Y9Q-0000EM; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:00:13 +0200 Message-ID: <42E78562.2090904@marktrompell.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:00:18 +0200 From: Mark Trompell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8b3) Gecko/20050713 SeaMonkey/1.0a MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:7c9603ba72f34457688622aa3330dee6 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:55:18 -0400 Subject: packages depending on fltk X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:01:15 -0000 Hi, I'm going to cook fltk2, so I'm wondering what packages in rpath have dependencies on fltk. I don't want to break useful parts of my system. regards Mark From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Jul 29 10:10:23 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6TEAN1e025351 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:10:23 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j6TE9KL4028219 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6TE9GfR004220 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:09:16 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j6TE9F9O004217 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:09:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:09:11 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050729140911.GA4106@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <42E78562.2090904@marktrompell.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42E78562.2090904@marktrompell.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: packages depending on fltk X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:10:23 -0000 On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 03:00:18PM +0200, Mark Trompell wrote: > Hi, I'm going to cook fltk2, so I'm wondering > what packages in rpath have dependencies on fltk. > I don't want to break useful parts of my system. Nothing in the distribution proper depends on fltk. If we need two versions of fltk in the repository, it would make sense to branch fltk. An incompatible version of a library should have a different soname and be installable side-by-side. From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Aug 11 03:58:14 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7B7wD1e019305 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:58:13 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.174] (geir-wlan.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD8B858B6E; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42FB04D4.5070307@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:57:08 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:58:14 -0000 Apache wrote: > ================================ > postfix:source=2.2.5-1 (previous: 2.0.18-4) > cvc rdiff postfix -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/2.2.5-1 > ================================ > 2.2.5-1 Joseph Tate (jtate@rpath.com) Wed Aug 10 12:00:55 2005 > A working postfix recipe, finally > Thank you! There is one bug left in the recipe. When I removed the alternatives support, I forgot to update the mailq binary: --- postfix/postfix.recipe 2005-08-10 18:00:52.000000000 +0200 +++ postfix.geir/postfix.recipe 2005-07-27 22:45:51.000000000 +0200 @@ -84,7 +83,7 @@ ' queue_directory=%(queuedir)s' ' sendmail_path=%(sbindir)s/sendmail' ' newaliases_path=%(bindir)s/newaliases' - ' mailq_path=%(bindir)s/mailq.postfix' + ' mailq_path=%(bindir)s/mailq' ' mail_owner=%(postfix_user)s' ' setgid_group=%(postdrop_group)s' ' html_directory=no' Sorry! Geir From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Aug 11 04:39:04 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7B8d31e019904 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:39:03 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.174] (geir-wlan.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FB0858B27; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:37:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42FB0E64.6090507@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:37:56 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:39:04 -0000 Another minor fix: Apache wrote: > + r.Replace('^#alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases$', 'alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases', '%(sysconfdir)s/postfix/main.cf') I have not tested this, but I believe you have to update the alias_database parameter as well. If not, "newaliases" will use the wrong aliases file when creating the /etc/aliases.db file. Is there a way to tell conary that /etc/aliases.db is a file generated by postfix? It would be nice if "conary q --path /etc/aliases.db" could give some meaningful output. BTW, the /etc/aliases from mailbase is very bloated. Drop me a mail, if you want me to clean it up. Geir From jtate@rpath.com Thu Aug 11 11:26:23 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7BFQM1e021473 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:26:23 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7BFPFl8020176 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7BFPFKs029832 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:25:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42FB6DDF.4050706@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:25:19 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> <42FB04D4.5070307@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <42FB04D4.5070307@in.fer.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:26:23 -0000 Geir Thomassen wrote: > Thank you! > > There is one bug left in the recipe. When I removed the alternatives > support, I forgot to update the mailq binary: > > --- postfix/postfix.recipe 2005-08-10 18:00:52.000000000 +0200 > +++ postfix.geir/postfix.recipe 2005-07-27 22:45:51.000000000 +0200 > @@ -84,7 +83,7 @@ > ' queue_directory=%(queuedir)s' > ' sendmail_path=%(sbindir)s/sendmail' > ' newaliases_path=%(bindir)s/newaliases' > - ' mailq_path=%(bindir)s/mailq.postfix' > + ' mailq_path=%(bindir)s/mailq' > ' mail_owner=%(postfix_user)s' > ' setgid_group=%(postdrop_group)s' > ' html_directory=no' > > Sorry! > Geir Fixed. I will commit shortly. From jtate@rpath.com Thu Aug 11 11:45:58 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7BFjw1e021549 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:45:58 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7BFipL4002128 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7BFioKs030423 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:44:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42FB7276.3010306@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:44:54 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> <42FB0E64.6090507@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <42FB0E64.6090507@in.fer.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:45:58 -0000 Geir Thomassen wrote: > Another minor fix: > > Apache wrote: > >> + r.Replace('^#alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases$', 'alias_maps = >> hash:/etc/aliases', '%(sysconfdir)s/postfix/main.cf') > > > I have not tested this, but I believe you have to update the > alias_database parameter as well. If not, "newaliases" will use the > wrong aliases file when creating the /etc/aliases.db file. No, main.cf.defaults says that /etc/aliases is the default alias_database. No further configuration is required. In fact, the above r.Remove line will be removed upon some testing, as it appears that the default alias_maps is hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases. > > Is there a way to tell conary that /etc/aliases.db is a file generated > by postfix? It would be nice if "conary q --path /etc/aliases.db" > could give some meaningful output. Ed Anderson is working on this, and the source has been committed. > BTW, the /etc/aliases from mailbase is very bloated. Drop me a mail, > if you want me to clean it up. I'd be interested in what you think could be removed. This aliases file is a conglomeration of a sendmail's, postfix's and exim's. We could very easily leave stuff commented out so that it could be enabled as needed. From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Aug 12 05:46:52 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7C9kp1e003777 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 05:46:51 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.174] (geir-wlan.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BD7858BE0; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:45:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42FC6FC7.6070504@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:45:43 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, Joseph Tate References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> <42FB0E64.6090507@in.fer.no> <42FB7276.3010306@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <42FB7276.3010306@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:46:52 -0000 Joseph Tate wrote: > No, main.cf.defaults says that /etc/aliases is the default > alias_database. No further configuration is required. You are right, I have just tested it :-) > In fact, the > above r.Remove line will be removed upon some testing, as it appears > that the default alias_maps is hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases. Don't do that, I did that mistake once, and /var/log/maillog was filled with "postfix/local[30952]: warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled" messages (one for each received mail). Geir From jtate@rpath.com Fri Aug 12 09:59:53 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7CDxq1e004568 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:59:53 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7CDwjCA018571 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7CDwjKs018463 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42FCAB19.3050107@rpath.com> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:58:49 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <200508101601.j7AG15f7020941@conary-commits.rpath.com> <42FB0E64.6090507@in.fer.no> <42FB7276.3010306@rpath.com> <42FC6FC7.6070504@in.fer.no> In-Reply-To: <42FC6FC7.6070504@in.fer.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Source: postfix=2.2.5-1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:59:53 -0000 Geir Thomassen wrote: > Don't do that, I did that mistake once, and /var/log/maillog was > filled with "postfix/local[30952]: warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain > name not set - NIS lookups disabled" messages (one for each received > mail). > > Geir Then I will persue a method for changing the default in code rather than changing a config file. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Sat Aug 20 08:26:40 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7KCQd1e020605 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:26:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 17890 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2005 12:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 12:25:31 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 16505-68 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:25:29 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Value error: unknown tag for merge X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:26:40 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Help! I have been trying to do "conary update this and that" and all I get is a crash at line 442 of trove.py in applyChangeSet. I am still running a basic 0.25, as updated when it first came out, and I notice that conary has been updated. How do I get that update, if that's what I need to get past this error? 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Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050820132431.GA19804@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Value error: unknown tag for merge X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:25:42 -0000 On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 08:25:29AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > I am still running a basic 0.25, as updated when it first came out, and > I notice that conary has been updated. How do I get that update, if > that's what I need to get past this error? Ah, an opportunity to point out an important wiki page: http://wiki.conary.com/ConaryConversion While Conary is still in beta testing, we encourage everyone to check the ConaryConversion page before updating Conary, as we post update instructions there when necessary. Also, Planet Conary http://planet.conary.com/ has announcements of new versions of Conary, and mentions when it is necessary to follow some instructions on the ConaryConversion page. Or you can go straight to the blog where we post those announcements and skip the other content on Planet Conary via http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews We are working on a new release of rPath Linux right now, which we expect to be out some time next week. What you need to do now is: # conary update sqlite=3.2.2-4-1 conary=0.61.0 # rm -f /var/lib/conarydb/rollbacks/* # conary update conary # conary q conary The reason for this is documented on the ConaryConversion page, if you are interested. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Sat Aug 20 10:19:53 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7KEJq1e020974 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:19:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 18250 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2005 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 14094-30 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:18:36 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050820141836.GA18232@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> <20050820132431.GA19804@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050820132431.GA19804@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Value error: unknown tag for merge X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:19:53 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 09:24:31AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 08:25:29AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > I am still running a basic 0.25, as updated when it first came out, and > > I notice that conary has been updated. How do I get that update, if > > that's what I need to get past this error? >=20 > Ah, an opportunity to point out an important wiki page: > http://wiki.conary.com/ConaryConversion Believe it or not, I _had_ looked at this page before posting, but hadn't read far enough down to see my error message. > Also, Planet Conary http://planet.conary.com/ has announcements of new > versions of Conary, and mentions when it is necessary to follow some > instructions on the ConaryConversion page. Or you can go straight to > the blog where we post those announcements and skip the other content > on Planet Conary via http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews OK, these are new to me. I don't see them mentioned on the Conary web pages ( wiki ) either. > We are working on a new release of rPath Linux right now, which we > expect to be out some time next week. Which means reformat -- reinstall? > What you need to do now is: > # conary update sqlite=3D3.2.2-4-1 conary=3D0.61.0 > # rm -f /var/lib/conarydb/rollbacks/* > # conary update conary > # conary q conary Done successfully. Now doing the update that I wanted to do in the first place. Just for fun, I tried downloading a virgin kernel source to build, but ran into some issues even before configuring. It is complaining about missing "as" ( or gas ), even though I am sure=20 that I have the complete gcc package installed. I am going to try updating that and see what happens. Otherwise, I will try doing a conary update for "kernel-source" ( is that the correct name? ) and see if that one will compile. 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Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050820171632.GA21346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> <20050820132431.GA19804@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <20050820141836.GA18232@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050820141836.GA18232@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Value error: unknown tag for merge X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:17:48 -0000 On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 10:18:36AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > Believe it or not, I _had_ looked at this page before posting, but > hadn't read far enough down to see my error message. Easy to believe, there's lots of text on that page... > OK, these are new to me. I don't see them mentioned on the > Conary web pages ( wiki ) either. Again, lost in text -- the planet is mentioned on the main wiki page, and the blog is referenced via a link on the planet (but not directly referenced from the wiki; given the planet, the blog is perhaps a little superfluous -- adding it would probably just increase the amount of text on the main wiki page, which would just make the existing problem of too much information in one place worse). > > We are working on a new release of rPath Linux right now, which we > > expect to be out some time next week. > > Which means reformat -- reinstall? It means that new installs will be with new conary. The installer doesn't do updates, but conary is intended to. It's beta, we're still fixing bugs involving updating, so bug reports are solicited. We just pushed a major update involving changing library versions and adding compatibility libraries; this helped us find new bugs in Conary, and I suspect that as people update different systems they'll uncover a few more. > Just for fun, I tried downloading a virgin kernel source to build, but > ran into some issues even before configuring. > > It is complaining about missing "as" ( or gas ), even though I am sure > that I have the complete gcc package installed. as comes from binutils. Try "conary update binutils". If you did a minimal install, you'll probably have a few other packages to update. We probably need to add some dependencies here... > I am going to try updating that and see what happens. Otherwise, I will > try doing a conary update for "kernel-source" ( is that the correct > name? ) and see if that one will compile. No, like some (most?) other distributions we no longer package up the kernel source as a binary package. If you want to build the kernel using Conary, do: cvc co kernel cd kernel [edit config files, change the patch set in the recipe, whatever] cvc cook kernel.recipe conary update --keep-existing *.ccs From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Sat Aug 20 13:40:34 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7KHeM1e021781 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:40:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 18958 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2005 17:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 17:39:10 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 16505-78 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:39:07 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050820173907.GA18883@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050820122529.GA17825@bdmcc-us.com> <20050820132431.GA19804@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <20050820141836.GA18232@bdmcc-us.com> <20050820171632.GA21346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050820171632.GA21346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Value error: unknown tag for merge X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:40:34 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 01:16:33PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 10:18:36AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: >=20 > > OK, these are new to me. I don't see them mentioned on the > > Conary web pages ( wiki ) either. >=20 > Again, lost in text -- the planet is mentioned on the main wiki page, But only very indirectly. I would suggest a more prominent role if you want it seen. > and the blog is referenced via a link on the planet (but not directly > referenced from the wiki; given the planet, the blog is perhaps a Actually, the reference on the Conary wiki page seems to be more related to the blogs than to Planet as something worth stressing. > It means that new installs will be with new conary. The installer > doesn't do updates, but conary is intended to. It's beta, we're still > fixing bugs involving updating, so bug reports are solicited. We just > pushed a major update involving changing library versions and adding > compatibility libraries; this helped us find new bugs in Conary, and > I suspect that as people update different systems they'll uncover a > few more. OK. Since I had had no luck using "conary update thing" or "conary update --resolve thing" where thing ranged from individual troves such as gnupg and lvm2 to groups like group-dist, I was interested to see "conary updateall" on the Planet page. I just tried it and got the following: ( copying by hand from another screen ) Resolving dependencies...error: The following dependencies could not be resolved: cyrus-sasl:md5: (libcrypto.so.5) openssh-client:runtime: (libcrypto.so.5) cyrus-sasl:runtime: ( ditto ) openssh-server:runtime: ( ditto ) mutt:runtime: ( ditto and libssl.so.5 ) python:lib: ( libcrypto.so.5 and libssl.so.5 ) gnome-vfs:lib: ( ditto ) openssh:runtime: ( libcrypto.so.5 ) Which looks as if I need to find two libraries -- do you happen to know where they are kept? > as comes from binutils. Try "conary update binutils". If you did a Of course. > minimal install, you'll probably have a few other packages to update. I know. I have had to do a lot of filling in of blanks since doing that minimal. > We probably need to add some dependencies here... How's the work on the "selection sets" going? > If you want to build the kernel using Conary, do: > cvc co kernel > cd kernel > [edit config files, change the patch set in the recipe, whatever] > cvc cook kernel.recipe > conary update --keep-existing *.ccs Thanks, Brian --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIojCCCJ4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjUwggLuMIICV6ADAgECAgMNNaEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA0MTAxMjAzMDQ0MFoXDTA1MTAxMjAz MDQ0MFowYjETMBEGA1UEBBMKTWNDdWxsb3VnaDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFQnJpYW4xGTAXBgNVBAMT EEJyaWFuIE1jQ3VsbG91Z2gxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWJkbWNAYmRtY2MtdXMuY29tMIIB IjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAwUh7NBHH0qjx/XGykx6hJUO+Vf6DItvO evGuzrYybuTmra8y0P8ewrXqdeLsWr0IrGNLoXKIltCx/F3WvNTPoPcpKTkBc53eT0xBnnXN ljlToJX2LyRMqTs2nrkOkVLf2IGbsUe9zymJjqUOQq6HlpPyaS7/3/7wc1L9JdVX5EGb9Op5 RseESqg6c+7wXv+uaJ5ZyqhU31gRu1hQCu6rBnDtwetRrBR6+Fg00UQ64EOomOxam9UNMofI IrQX16oQdVXwqW+s9edjFf7stYS1l93HEiW3VhalKkP/ObrgnQFv8ggsddYBlaZ19Ogsg31r 3DZ76EHyBhWQP6l9E033rQIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFiZG1jQGJkbWNjLXVzLmNv bTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAKmI1cDnZfQYBb2B/hRenhu8327X +7QxIkPYItv57oztR5+4r/WpAuKerZSsBrbK+YJ3lN22Yms9BqM2gTAovvuIB+y/UcQB10RU OWDLwtAmGR16D5BR7rp/1y6kyuubWe34cHuaIjhZhMl99cCPL7KRzPes9+LodO9Tz4CEcnCK MIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxw ZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIz NTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV 84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GU MIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50 aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkG A1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUF AAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3h YWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQ Gls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMNNaEwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA4MjAxNzM5MDdaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBS2mc24BN9rVn4leeezIPpSQ+gdcDBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQA6AnMk+vDFNgdKzxKK7MdU8urSnT2oHfvH H71FF3yo498v/OqCSPjrXKqXrk3yPXADFGScdoyWMGUnDa78PozD5PXkGuvOqP3DDRj/ldrC N/jeFMZDP/hDyHztaIuf7qy3yystEEBrTrdL4179Bbtq+IUEvrzWoe9WQ4kjlfHUBH3+fXyB 26BcEqPrIChdiWID1Us552WXdpO5mjVtPbgLitoANttXGSIrsiF08PIB8OKqkiWO4+x/FnPA aSfEiz9j2KkeK3rEdufKyBfis3SZ6MBh1UcWFB0H1YVtmsgci0WLcb0w8AeGtfwWUhtC/wiO GYt3JsM5yXVK0KFjA7z8 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Aug 25 18:27:24 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7PMRL1e018323 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:27:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 25819 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2005 22:26:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2005 22:26:08 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 08241-128 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:26:06 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:27:24 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OK, I just updated to conary 0.61.11, and then attempted to run the command line shown in planet under 0.61.9. ( the cp /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb /var/lib/conarydb.backup; conary updateall --items > /tmp/updateitems.out; conary update group-dist --info > /tmp/updateinfo.out; conary updateall --info > /tmp/updateallinfo.out line! ) When doing so, I got the following messages at the bottom of the traceback: File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/conary/updatecmd.py", line 191, in displayUpdateJobInfo new.append(("%s (%s)" % (x.getName(), newInfo, 'N'))) TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting error: The following dependencies could not be resolved: cyrus-sasl:md5: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) python:lib: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) openssh-client:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) cyrus-sasl:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) openssh-server:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) freetype:devel: trove: freetype:devellib openssh:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) mutt:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) gnome-vfs:lib: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) These messages are very similar to those that I reported earlier, when I tried to update certain individual troves. ( mainly having to do with libcrypto and libssl ) Let me know if there is any other information that I can provide. 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( the cp > /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb /var/lib/conarydb.backup; conary updateall > --items > /tmp/updateitems.out; conary update group-dist --info > > /tmp/updateinfo.out; conary updateall --info > /tmp/updateallinfo.out > line! ) Oops, this was a bug that got introduced in the --info code in 0.61.11. I've committed a new version in CVS that makes that line read: append(("%s (%s -> N)" % (x.getName(), newInfo))) You could try making the same change and running with --info again. Or throw caution to the wind and run without --info... -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From dbc@rpath.com Thu Aug 25 20:37:43 2005 Received: from wallace.rdu.rpath.com (pool-71-111-194-97.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.194.97]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7Q0bh1e022033 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:37:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wallace.rdu.rpath.com [127.0.0.1]) by wallace.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7Q0aQrw004599 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:36:26 -0400 Message-ID: <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:36:25 -0400 From: David Christian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:37:44 -0000 Hello, This was my bug, and in fact the correct line should read: new.append(("%s (%s)" % (x.getName(), newInfo), 'N')) Thanks to Matt for the quick response, and sorry about the introduced bug. On the up side, the --info output should be more informative now. Dave From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Aug 25 20:52:30 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7Q0qT1e022091 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:52:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 26319 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2005 00:51:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2005 00:51:15 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 18452-68 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:51:14 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:52:30 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:36:25PM -0400, David Christian wrote: > Hello, > This was my bug, and in fact the correct line should read: >=20 > new.append(("%s (%s)" % (x.getName(), newInfo), 'N')) Thank you, David. I had tried Matt's solution which removed the "new." and was just trying replacing that when I saw your message and corrected the whole line. On the other hand, is any of this likely to correct the unresolved dependencies? 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Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:04:05 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7Q12rWe002486 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7Q12quu012399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:02:53 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j7Q12qTm012394 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:02:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:02:48 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:04:06 -0000 On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:51:14PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > On the other hand, is any of this likely to correct the unresolved > dependencies? Various changes we made to the group handling code should make dependency problems go away - IF you had group-dist installed from a previous build (the 0.25 era group-dist). -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Aug 25 21:32:12 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7Q1WA1e022303 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:32:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 26478 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2005 01:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2005 01:30:55 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 18250-77 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:30:54 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:32:12 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:02:48PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:51:14PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > >=20 > > On the other hand, is any of this likely to correct the unresolved > > dependencies? >=20 > Various changes we made to the group handling code should make > dependency problems go away - IF you had group-dist installed from a > previous build (the 0.25 era group-dist). As far as I know, I did. I seem to remember using that for some conary update command. However, the command line that I quoted earlier has completed, resulting in the following: error: The following dependencies could not be resolved: cyrus-sasl:md5: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) python:lib: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) openssh-client:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) cyrus-sasl:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) openssh-server:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) freetype:devel: trove: freetype:devellib openssh:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) mutt:runtime: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) gnome-vfs:lib: soname: ELF32/libcrypto.so.5(SysV x86) soname: ELF32/libssl.so.5(SysV x86) I will try an update of group-dist, and report back. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:30:54PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: >=20 > I will try an update of group-dist, and report back. I know, answering myself. update group-dist is still running -- different behaviour than I remember from previously. I thought that when it finished downloading 130+ megabytes and started doing updates that it was almost done, but now it's downloading and updating more. Interesting. I just noticed it emit the following message: Resolved address "xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a writable configuration source at position 0 I will add to this when it is finished. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:14:06AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:30:54PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > >=20 > > I will try an update of group-dist, and report back. OK. First run failed because it ran into the links that I had made from /usr/include to /usr/src/linux/include. Re-ran and it failed with "bad magic." Running again. Just at a guess, it appears to be continuing, rather than starting from scratch. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:03:10AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:14:06AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:30:54PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > >=20 > > > I will try an update of group-dist, and report back. >=20 Next run: [root@bard ~]# conary update group-dist Downloading 57 of 426 (40%) Creating database transaction (6 of 6)...error: /etc/yp.conf is in the way of a newly created file in ypbind:runtime=3D/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/1.18-1-2[is: x86] error: changeset cannot be applied Now this one I _know_ I didn't do. I'll rename it and continue. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:47:16 -0000 On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:14:06AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Resolved address "xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a writable > configuration source at position 0 This one is ignorable - just need to add a > /dev/null 2>&1 to a tag handler script. -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From msw@rpath.com Fri Aug 26 10:50:49 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QEom1e028656 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:50:48 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7QEnaWe024131 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QEnauu022039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:49:36 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j7QEnZkF022038 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:49:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:49:35 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050826144935.GB12614@rpath.com> References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:50:49 -0000 On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:03:10AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Just at a guess, it appears to be continuing, rather than starting from > scratch. This is a nice property of the new group handling code (as of 0.61.0). If conary is unable to apply a changeset as you're doing a huge update like group dist, you are able to go take corrective action and resume the update by running the same command again. It picks up where it left off. -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From msw@rpath.com Fri Aug 26 10:57:59 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QEvx1e028699 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:57:59 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j7QEukY4024691 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QEukuu022411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j7QEukVG022410 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:56:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:56:45 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:57:59 -0000 On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:43:46AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > [root@bard ~]# conary update group-dist > Downloading 57 of 426 (40%) Creating database transaction (6 of > 6)...error: /etc/yp.conf is in the way of a newly created file in > ypbind:runtime=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/1.18-1-2[is: x86] > error: changeset cannot be applied > > > Now this one I _know_ I didn't do. I'll rename it and continue. Right - I marked /etc/yp.conf as a file that should not replace anything on the system (think %config(noreplace) in rpm terms) so this won't be a problem next time. -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Aug 26 12:16:18 2005 Received: from gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net (gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net [199.174.114.21]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QGGI1e029038 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:16:18 -0400 Received: from 1cust62.vr1.rdu1.broadband.uu.net ([63.13.158.62] helo=bdmcc-us.com) by gronouski.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1E8grE-0006B7-00 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:15:08 -0400 Message-ID: <430F4059.6080302@bdmcc-us.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:16:25 -0400 From: Brian McCullough User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <20050825222606.GA25789@bdmcc-us.com> <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: d4282dd3d1650e196beaea2d901345730ee233803547b9104cb7516b1abe81497cb120fdfc650bf6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:16:19 -0000 Matt Wilson wrote: > > Right - I marked /etc/yp.conf as a file that should not replace > anything on the system (think %config(noreplace) in rpm terms) so this > won't be a problem next time. Of course, when I checked, I found that the "roadblock" was a zero-length file! B-) From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Sat Aug 27 11:25:03 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j7RFOx1e005650 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:25:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 4673 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2005 15:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2005 15:23:46 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 03907-05 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:23:43 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050827152343.GA4633@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20050825233428.GD24663@rpath.com> <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> <430F4059.6080302@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <430F4059.6080302@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:25:03 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline And the saga continues. I am finding that several of the "roadblock" errors ( most of them ) are symbolic links that were either created in early July when I installed the system, or links that are dated now, as part of the update of group-dist. In particular, /lib/libnss_winbind.so and /lib/libnss_wins.so have both caused roadblocks multiple times, complained by samba:devellib. Finally, I have run into an error which may stop me completely. I have an error saying: ID stickynotes-using-left-fig already defined It is showing /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/C/stickynotes_applet.xml:228 element figure: validity error: ID sticky.... I will restart the update and let you know if it continues. Brian P.S. Wow is the 2.6 kernel big! I ran out of space doing this update, and discovered that the kernel source was occupying over 1Gig. I ran a make clean and recovered half of that and was able to continue the update. 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Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:48:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 5923 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2005 19:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 1 Sep 2005 19:47:07 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 26332-132 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:47:04 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Message-ID: <20050901194704.GA5856@bdmcc-us.com> References: <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> <430F4059.6080302@bdmcc-us.com> <20050827152343.GA4633@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050827152343.GA4633@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:48:24 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More answering myself. On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:23:43AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: >=20 > I will restart the update and let you know if it continues. And it completed. ( Apparently successfully ) However, I now don't have enough room on this 6 Gig drive to compile a kernel. Do I need to go through and try conary erasing certain troves, or is there maybe a big cache or some other space "waster" that I can delete without too much damage? 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Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:04:28 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j81K3Dl8000220 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j81K3D0d025658 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:03:13 -0400 Message-ID: <43175E94.2000909@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:03:32 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050425) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com References: <430E6409.3010406@rpath.com> <20050826005114.GA26290@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826010248.GE24663@rpath.com> <20050826013054.GA26446@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826041406.GA26973@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826120310.GA29985@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826124346.GA30156@bdmcc-us.com> <20050826145645.GC12614@rpath.com> <430F4059.6080302@bdmcc-us.com> <20050827152343.GA4633@bdmcc-us.com> <20050901194704.GA5856@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20050901194704.GA5856@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Latest update errors X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:04:29 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: >More answering myself. > > >On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:23:43AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > >>I will restart the update and let you know if it continues. >> >> > >And it completed. ( Apparently successfully ) > > >However, I now don't have enough room on this 6 Gig drive to compile a >kernel. Do I need to go through and try conary erasing certain troves, or >is there maybe a big cache or some other space "waster" that I can >delete without too much damage? > > >Brian > > Most likely you have a ton of rollbacks that could be deleted. In fact they may not even work anymore. Anyway, they're in /var/lib/conarydb/rollbacks. Other than that, a few iterations of du -k --max-depth=1 | sort -n -k 1 should find stuff for you to delete. Figure out what package a file is in by running conary q --path /path/to/file. From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Oct 7 06:00:16 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97A0GdI009789 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:00:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j979wgfU014814 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j979wgTH029328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:58:42 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j979wfES029325 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:58:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:58:41 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.60 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:00:16 -0000 rPath Linux 0.60 is released: the first Beta release of rPath Linux. (We forgot to update the graphics, so it still announces itself as an Alpha release. Oops. At least we fixed bugs.) Since rPath Linux 0.51, the entire distribution has been rebuilt, and is now available on a different label: conary.rpath.com@rpl:rpl1. A much newer version of Conary is included. TeX seems to work much better. The cron daemon should work by default. Some bugs have been fixed, and some packages have been updated to newer versions. There are many changes "under the hood" that are not immediately user-visible. Important Points: o You may wish to change the installLabelPath in your /etc/conaryrc file to point to the new conary.rpath.com@rpl:rpl1 label instead of conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel o KDE still does not work on the x86_64 architecture. o The sysstat init script still complains about a bad path during boot (this is fixed for our next release). o Please search http://bugs.rpath.com/buglist.cgi for known bugs, and file reports for new bugs that you find at http://bugs.rpath.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=rPath+Linux Download from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.60/ or from mirrors; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites From john@metalab.unc.edu Fri Oct 7 09:54:52 2005 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (mail.lulu.com [66.193.5.50]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97DspBw009983 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:54:51 -0400 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j97DrLYH012260 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:53:21 -0400 Received: (from jreuning@localhost) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j97DrLac012259 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:53:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: jreuning.rdu.lulu.com: jreuning set sender to john@metalab.unc.edu using -f Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.60 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 From: John Reuning To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:53:20 -0400 Message-Id: <1128693200.11250.8.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16.3) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:54:52 -0000 It's great to see rPath move into beta. Congratulations! Torrents, anyone? http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc.php?docid=60 Thanks, -jrr On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 05:58 -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > rPath Linux 0.60 is released: the first Beta release of rPath > Linux. (We forgot to update the graphics, so it still announces > itself as an Alpha release. Oops. At least we fixed bugs.) From smithj@rpath.com Fri Oct 7 10:58:51 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97Ewpdw010106 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:58:51 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j97EvIfU025664 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97EvICH018528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:57:18 -0400 Received: (from smithj@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j97EvI4T018527 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:57:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:57:18 -0400 From: smithj@rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.60 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051007145718.GA18421@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1128693200.11250.8.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1128693200.11250.8.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:58:51 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:53:20AM -0400, John Reuning wrote: > It's great to see rPath move into beta. Congratulations! >=20 > Torrents, anyone? >=20 > http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc.php?docid=3D60 >=20 > Thanks, > I'll be happy to seed these from NCSU indefinatly, so long as anyone will a= ctually use them. -smithj=20 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDRozO7ehlOQgxQlcRAq9LAJ94ryavI+Xmd1DGhcOiUAl/4fTjowCeJ2hM VcvuXLZ0pDpn2SVLVLDmFB4= =TH6z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From john@metalab.unc.edu Fri Oct 7 11:11:06 2005 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (mail.lulu.com [66.193.5.50]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97FB6vx010137 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:11:06 -0400 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j97F9afF004508 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:09:36 -0400 Received: (from jreuning@localhost) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j97F9aAO004507 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:09:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: jreuning.rdu.lulu.com: jreuning set sender to john@metalab.unc.edu using -f Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.60 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 From: John Reuning To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <20051007145718.GA18421@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1128693200.11250.8.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> <20051007145718.GA18421@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:09:35 -0400 Message-Id: <1128697775.3710.1.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16.3) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:11:06 -0000 On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 10:57 -0400, smithj@rpath.com wrote: > > http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc.php?docid=60 > I'll be happy to seed these from NCSU indefinatly, so long as anyone will actually use them. This is what Osprey does, the software that runs torrent.ibiblio.org. http://osprey.ibiblio.org The PS column is for permaseeds. :) Thanks, -jrr From john@metalab.unc.edu Fri Oct 7 13:05:47 2005 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (mail.lulu.com [66.193.5.50]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j97H5lva011166 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:05:47 -0400 Received: from jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j97H4HMj005881 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:04:17 -0400 Received: (from jreuning@localhost) by jreuning.rdu.lulu.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j97H4HmE005880 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:04:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: jreuning.rdu.lulu.com: jreuning set sender to john@metalab.unc.edu using -f Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.60 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 From: John Reuning To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <1128697775.3710.1.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> References: <20051007095841.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1128693200.11250.8.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> <20051007145718.GA18421@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <1128697775.3710.1.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:04:16 -0400 Message-Id: <1128704656.3710.5.camel@jreuning.rdu.lulu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16.3) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:05:47 -0000 On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 11:09 -0400, John Reuning wrote: > > I'll be happy to seed these from NCSU indefinatly, so long as anyone will actually use them. > > This is what Osprey does, the software that runs torrent.ibiblio.org. > http://osprey.ibiblio.org The PS column is for permaseeds. That's not to say that more seeds aren't welcome, though... :-) From msw@rpath.com Tue Oct 11 10:32:26 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9BEWPp0018231; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:32:25 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j9BEUpl8013224; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9BEUpBl006073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:30:51 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9BEUpim006072; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:30:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:30:51 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Please subscribe to the new commits list Message-ID: <20051011143051.GK30373@rpath.com> References: <20051011031933.GA27893@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051011031933.GA27893@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: contrib-commits@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:32:26 -0000 This is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not install troves from contrib.rpath.org until 0.62.13 is released and your database has been migrated (or you're running CVS HEAD conary). If you start introducing versions on the contrib.rpath.org server into your database, the automatic migration might have conflicting entries. This is a _real_ pain to fix, so please don't install from contrib.rpath.org until your database is migrated. On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 11:19:33PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > contrib.rpath.com has been moved to contrib.rpath.org. The old > contrib.rpath.com repository is still available in read-only mode, > but to get new software, you'll need to fetch it from the new > contrib.rpath.org repository, now hosted as a new rBuilder Online > project. Conary 0.62.13 will convert your database to reference > conary.rpath.org when we release it. > > To join the new commits mailing list, go to the new rPath Contrib > rBuilder Online project's mailing list page: > http://www.rpath.org/project/contrib/mailingLists > Click on "SUBSCRIBE". If you are logged into rBuilder Online, you > will be immediately subscribed. If you are not logged in, you > will have to go through the normal mailman subscription process. > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > contrib-commits mailing list > contrib-commits@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/contrib-commits -- Matt Wilson rpath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From chaos@in.fer.no Tue Oct 18 07:32:12 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9IBWBh5010020 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:32:11 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.119] (geir.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.119]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A00C894004 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4354DCDC.9020005@in.fer.no> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:30:36 +0200 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051011) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Typo? (Re: Source: gcc=3.4.4-4) References: <200510121826.j9CIQKRd006331@conary-commits.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200510121826.j9CIQKRd006331@conary-commits.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:32:12 -0000 Is this a typo? I suspect this patch should be applied to gtk, glib, glibc or something similar, not gcc. Geir Apache wrote: > ================================ > gcc:source=3.4.4-4 (previous: 3.4.4-3) > cvc rdiff gcc -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-4 > ================================ > 3.4.4-4 Ed Anderson (http://bugs.rpath.com/) Wed Oct 12 14:26:19 2005 > add new gtk buildreqs > > gcc.recipe: changed > Index: gcc.recipe > ==================================================================== > contents(size sha1) > inode(mtime owner group) > --- gcc.recipe /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-3 > +++ gcc.recipe /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-4 > @@ -14,7 +14,8 @@ > 'gettext:runtime', 'glib:devel', 'gtk:devel', > 'install-info:runtime', 'libart_lgpl:devel', > 'pango:devel', 'perl:runtime', 'texinfo:runtime', > - 'zlib:devel'] > + 'zlib:devel', 'cairo:devel', 'fontconfig:devel', > + 'freetype:devel', 'libpng:devel', 'xorg-x11:devel' ] > > if Arch.x86_64: > buildRequires.extend(( > > > > Committed by: eanderson > _______________________________________________ > distro-commits mailing list > distro-commits@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-commits From jmfmail@leaper.linuxtx.org Tue Oct 18 08:59:29 2005 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-67-163-99-44.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [67.163.99.44]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9ICxSI9010137 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:59:29 -0400 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9ICvsw7019544 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:57:54 -0500 Received: (from jmfmail@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j9ICvq0h019542 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:57:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:57:52 -0500 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Typo? (Re: Source: gcc=3.4.4-4) Message-ID: <20051018125752.GA29858@linuxtx.org> References: <200510121826.j9CIQKRd006331@conary-commits.rpath.com> <4354DCDC.9020005@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4354DCDC.9020005@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:59:29 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 01:30:36PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Is this a typo? I suspect this patch should be applied to gtk, glib, > glibc or something similar, not gcc. > > Geir This is no typo. You can thank java for all of these, particulary --enable-java-awt=gtk Justin > > Apache wrote: > > ================================ > > gcc:source=3.4.4-4 (previous: 3.4.4-3) > > cvc rdiff gcc -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-4 > > ================================ > > 3.4.4-4 Ed Anderson (http://bugs.rpath.com/) Wed Oct 12 14:26:19 2005 > > add new gtk buildreqs > > > > gcc.recipe: changed > > Index: gcc.recipe > > ==================================================================== > > contents(size sha1) > > inode(mtime owner group) > > --- gcc.recipe /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-3 > > +++ gcc.recipe /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.4.4-4 > > @@ -14,7 +14,8 @@ > > 'gettext:runtime', 'glib:devel', 'gtk:devel', > > 'install-info:runtime', 'libart_lgpl:devel', > > 'pango:devel', 'perl:runtime', 'texinfo:runtime', > > - 'zlib:devel'] > > + 'zlib:devel', 'cairo:devel', 'fontconfig:devel', > > + 'freetype:devel', 'libpng:devel', 'xorg-x11:devel' ] > > > > if Arch.x86_64: > > buildRequires.extend(( > > > > > > > > Committed by: eanderson > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-commits mailing list > > distro-commits@lists.rpath.com > > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-commits > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From msw@rpath.com Thu Oct 20 18:41:16 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9KMfGqY027866; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:41:16 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j9KMfDfU017988; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9KMfCuF000967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:41:12 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9KMfCIN000966; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:41:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:41:12 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: conary-list@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Conary 0.70.0 is coming... Message-ID: <20051020224059.GL9076@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:41:16 -0000 Conary 0.70.0 is currently being tested. 0.70.0 will not be compatible with repository servers running older versions of Conary. Users will need to download a 0.6x-compatible changeset file in order to upgrade to 0.70.0. Instructions will be posted here when 0.70.0 is released. Sorry for the inconvenience of this upgrade process. We're working on a new Conary feature that will let us make these transitions smoother in the future. -- Matt Wilson rPath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Oct 20 22:52:28 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9L2qSAs028234; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:28 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j9L2qPl8007435; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9L2qOfg024459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:24 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9L2qOjx024458; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:52:24 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: conary-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Conary 0.70.0 is coming... Message-ID: <20051021025224.GA23317@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051020224059.GL9076@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051020224059.GL9076@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:52:28 -0000 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:41:12PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > Conary 0.70.0 is currently being tested. 0.70.0 will not be compatible > with repository servers running older versions of Conary. Users will > need to download a 0.6x-compatible changeset file in order to upgrade > to 0.70.0. Instructions will be posted here when 0.70.0 is released. http://wiki.conary.com/ConaryConversion describes how to convert to Conary 0.70.0: You need a changeset file for your architecture. Use a program such as wget to download the changeset files. If you don't have wget installed, see http://wiki.conary.com/ConaryConversionWithoutWget for help. $ cd /tmp $ wget ftp://download.rpath.com/conary/conary-0.70.0.x86.ccs or $ wget ftp://download.rpath.com/conary/conary-0.70.0.x86_64.ccs Now apply the changeset you have downloaded: $ su # cp /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb.pre-0.70.0 # conary update conary-0.70.0.*.ccs Due to the change in changeset format, your old rollbacks are invalid, so remove them: # rm -rf /var/lib/conarydb/rollbacks ; conary q conary More details are posted in the release announcement at: http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2005/10/20/beta_conary_0_70_0_released Thank you all for your patience. From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Oct 28 17:20:47 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SLKl5i013226 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:20:47 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j9SLKf1u019038 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9SLKc9Z009465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:20:38 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9SLKcbA009464 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:20:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:20:38 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.70 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051028212038.GA9072@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:20:47 -0000 rPath Linux 0.70 is released! This one even has updated graphics that point out that it is a beta. rPath Linux 0.70 is released. The main focus has been fixing bugs; we have frozen our interface major versions, and in general are updating packages only to fix bugs. rPath Linux 0.70 includes Conary 0.70.2. It also includes gcc 3.4.4. The entire distribution was rebuilt with gcc 3.4.4, using recent conary versions that have enhanced dependency detection and management. (The openoffice.org package no longer claims to provide libstdc++.so, for example.) rPath Linux 0.70 introduces individual package selection, and splits the packages into a few high-level groups. The package selection is done within the individual groups, and conary resolves dependencies within the installation. This release includes OpenOffice.org 1.1.5. Unfortunately, the sourcecode to OpenOffice.org 1.1.5 includes many binaries that made their way into the build, which creates a spurious dependency that shows up as a failure in dependency resolution if you install OpenOffice.org from the rPath Linux 0.70 installation. If you choose to install OpenOffice.org, you will have to click on the "OK" button to proceed with the installation. Download from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.70/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Notes: o hald, the hal daemon, does not work on x86_64. o text mode installation does does not work Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Nov 10 08:33:36 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAADXZmq019469 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:33:36 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.119] (geir.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.119]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD68885899A for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:33:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43734C24.4000203@in.fer.no> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:33:24 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Bug in dovecot recipe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:33:37 -0000 I think I have found a bug in the dovecot recipe: The recipe contains : r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot-login', mode=0750) which I believe should read: r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login', mode=0750) Geir PS: The latest dovecot is 1.0.alpha4, which fixes an important IMAP4 bug. See http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2005-October/009605.html From smithj@rpath.com Thu Nov 10 09:20:21 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAAEKLN3019540 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:21 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jAAEK84p018060 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAAEK8nn003452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:08 -0500 Received: (from smithj@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jAAEK8vh003451 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:20:07 -0500 From: smithj@rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Bug in dovecot recipe Message-ID: <20051110142007.GA2725@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <43734C24.4000203@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43734C24.4000203@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:20:21 -0000 On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:33:24PM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > I think I have found a bug in the dovecot recipe: > > The recipe contains : > > r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot-login', mode=0750) > > which I believe should read: > > r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login', mode=0750) > > > Geir > > PS: The latest dovecot is 1.0.alpha4, which fixes an important IMAP4 > bug. See http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2005-October/009605.html You can change that in /etc/dovecot.config, but it should work by default, so I changed the dir and bumped the version. Thanks for the heads-up. -smithj From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Nov 11 04:40:47 2005 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAB9ek6Q021824 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:40:47 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.119] (geir.ranvik.fjordmedia.com [10.0.0.119]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F394B859048 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:40:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43746711.3070608@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:40:33 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Bug in dovecot recipe References: <43734C24.4000203@in.fer.no> <20051110142007.GA2725@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20051110142007.GA2725@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:40:48 -0000 Can you please add a "r.Ownership('root','dovecot', '%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login')" line in the recipe as well? At the moment we get: Starting Dovecot Imap: Warning: Corrected permissions for login directory /var/run/dovecot/login when starting dovecot for the first time. Thanks, Geir smithj@rpath.com wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:33:24PM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > >>I think I have found a bug in the dovecot recipe: >> >>The recipe contains : >> >> r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot-login', mode=0750) >> >>which I believe should read: >> >> r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login', mode=0750) >> >> >>Geir >> >>PS: The latest dovecot is 1.0.alpha4, which fixes an important IMAP4 >>bug. See http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2005-October/009605.html > > > You can change that in /etc/dovecot.config, but it should work by default, so I > changed the dir and bumped the version. Thanks for the heads-up. > > -smithj > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From eanderson@rpath.com Fri Nov 11 14:03:08 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jABJ38jr022869 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:03:08 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jABJ2rWe002291 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jABJ2roC009865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:53 -0500 Received: (from eanderson@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jABJ2rGs009864 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:53 -0500 From: Ed Anderson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Bug in dovecot recipe Message-ID: <20051111190252.GA7215@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <43734C24.4000203@in.fer.no> <20051110142007.GA2725@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <43746711.3070608@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43746711.3070608@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:03:08 -0000 --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for pointing that out. It's been fixed in dovecot=3D1.0.alpha4-2 on= :devel Ed Anderson On 11/11/05 10:40 +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: >=20 > Can you please add a "r.Ownership('root','dovecot',=20 > '%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login')" line in the recipe as well? At=20 > the moment we get: >=20 > Starting Dovecot Imap: Warning: Corrected permissions for login=20 > directory /var/run/dovecot/login >=20 > when starting dovecot for the first time. >=20 > Thanks, > Geir >=20 >=20 > smithj@rpath.com wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:33:24PM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > >=20 > >>I think I have found a bug in the dovecot recipe: > >> > >>The recipe contains : > >> > >> r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot-login', mode=3D0750) > >> > >>which I believe should read: > >> > >> r.MakeDirs('%(localstatedir)s/run/dovecot/login', mode=3D0750) > >> > >> > >>Geir > >> > >>PS: The latest dovecot is 1.0.alpha4, which fixes an important IMAP4=20 > >>bug. See http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2005-October/009605.html > >=20 > >=20 > > You can change that in /etc/dovecot.config, but it should work by defau= lt, so I > > changed the dir and bumped the version. Thanks for the heads-up. > >=20 > > -smithj > > _______________________________________________ > > distro-list mailing list > > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >=20 > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDdOrcHtA6gB/4xo4RAs/AAJ4tAPfZLvAQ2POU0eZsenLLBNnJUwCfUpuy L3sWj1Wj87GDPPG1y6DPmZA= =bMbk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Nov 22 17:12:00 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAMMBxWs016169 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:12:00 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jAMMBdWe014606 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAMMBbYA009669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:11:37 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jAMMBb0k009668 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:11:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:11:37 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.99.1 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051122221137.GA9082@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:12:00 -0000 rPath Linux 0.99.1 is released! We were waiting to announce rPath Linux 0.99.0 on this list until all the mirrors were updated, and then I forgot to send the announcement, so I'll describe both 0.99.0 and 0.99.1 here. 0.99.0 ====== rPath Linux 0.99.0 is a lot like rPath Linux 0.70, only with fewer bugs, and now on the shiny new conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 label. In particular, automount works with GNOME; OpenOffice.org has working dependencies; and firstboot, gimp, and gdm runtime requirements have been fixed so that they will work even if group-gnome is not installed. Security updates include php for CVE-2005-3353, lynx for CVE-2005-2929, and libungif for CVE-2005-2974 and CVE-2005-3350. rPath Linux 0.99.0 includes the 2.6.14.2 kernel; we have found that this kernel cannot see at least some devices on the PCI bus on one very new nForce AMD64 motherboard that we have. We are investigating this problem. All our other testing has been successful on multiple hardware platforms. We have posted our goals for the rPath Linux 0.99.x series to the Conary wiki, at http://wiki.conary.com/rPathLinux 0.99.1 ====== The changes from rPath Linux 0.99.0 to 0.99.1 are very small: o The major change: partial installations on x86 SMP systems have a working kernel installation. This was the reason for the quick update. o The xorg-x11 package has been rebuilt to make the xorg.conf file an "InitialContents" file whose contents Conary will not overwrite, no matter what. Updates ======= If you are updating an already-installed system, and you have mailman installed, you will note that you will have to manually update the mm_cfg.py file. It was changed so significantly that any working installation will end up with conflicts. Conary will warn you about this at update time. Download 0.99.1 today from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.99.1/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Sat Nov 26 11:07:36 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jAQG7aCr029575 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:07:36 -0500 Received: (qmail 12866 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2005 16:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2005 16:07:16 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 08473-62 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:07:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:07:14 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath 0.99.1 Message-ID: <20051126160714.GA12831@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:07:37 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Folks, I have been working with this install over the past few days, and wanted to report a couple of things. First, using my usual boot command, "linux ide=nodma" the install starts and proceeds through partitioning up to package selection. ( Does removing individual items work yet? ) Here I tried both the default set, and removing "gnome" and "kde". In both cases, the install produced the "checking for dependencies" message and nothing else -- ever. In both cases, I left the machine for over 24 hours with no change. Next, I tried adding "mem=128M" to the boot command and had a kernel panic when the kernel tried to mount root -- it said that it couldn't find device ( 8, 3 ). I am just starting a run with the "minimal" selection, and will report what happens. 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I am wondering whether I just gave up too soon on the previous installs, because, although I wasn't watching it every minute, the "checking dependencies" step took a good half hour for minimal, so a larger package set would have taken longer. But over 24 hours? Now, from here, I am guessing that if I change the repository settings, I could "upgrade" to Orleans from here, since I didn't have any luck with the install disk for that install. 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However, there is something that I have been seeing for a while, but didn't mention because I thought that it might have something to do with my failed installs. Does anybody have any idea why I would see an address of "169.204.0.0" in the routing table ( result of "route -n" ) as the destination for "lo"? The ifconfig output looks reasonable -- "127.0.0.1" is the address for lo. 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Lynx complains that there are too many re-directs ( 10 or more ) and quits. Links gets in, stops at the login prompt and then complains that SSL is not available and won't go any further. I tried installing w3m, but it complains about a "re-direct loop" and, while it doesn't quit, it doesn't actually get me anywhere. 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User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Website References: <20051126193743.GA13640@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20051126193743.GA13640@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:18:56 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > Now that I have rPath 0.99.1 minimal installed, I tried getting to the > rPath.com website using the text-mode browsers available. Lynx > complains that there are too many re-directs ( 10 or more ) and quits. > Links gets in, stops at the login prompt and then complains that SSL is > not available and won't go any further. I tried installing w3m, but it > complains about a "re-direct loop" and, while it doesn't quit, it > doesn't actually get me anywhere. > > Brian > We do some gymnastics to place cookies for both rpath.com and rpath.org on your browser for one login. I'm not surprised that lynx doesn't work; but it looks like we should rebuild Links with SSL support. We're going to be spending some time on cross-browser compatibility soon, and that will include seeing how text-based browsers handle the site. Thanks, -Tim From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Nov 28 11:28:30 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jASGSTlP002441 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:28:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 28586 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2005 16:28:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2005 16:28:11 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 20082-111 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:28:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:28:08 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:28:30 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Somehow I didn't get this written over the weekend. The saga continues: OK, so as I said, I got "minimal" installed, and then had the bright idea of changing my repository path and "updating" to Orleans. This seemed to work, after I used the "--no-conflict-check" flag, until I tried to reboot. Kernel panic. ( might have been related to the LVM partitions that hold /, /usr, /var, etc. ) Back to the drawing board. I tried re-inserting the Orleans 0.93 install disk and attempting the failed install from previous messages to BugZilla. However, instead of reformatting everything, I tried only reformatting /boot and /var, because of the "out of space" issue that I reported earlier. This seemed to be going well, but failed in the same place, with 0 bytes free in /dev. I guess I will have to wait for a new version of Orleans that uses the updated anaconda. 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The saga continues: > >OK, so as I said, I got "minimal" installed, and then had the bright >idea of changing my repository path and "updating" to Orleans. > >This seemed to work, after I used the "--no-conflict-check" flag, until >I tried to reboot. Kernel panic. ( might have been related to the LVM >partitions that hold /, /usr, /var, etc. ) > >Back to the drawing board. I tried re-inserting the Orleans 0.93 >install disk and attempting the failed install from previous messages to >BugZilla. However, instead of reformatting everything, I tried only >reformatting /boot and /var, because of the "out of space" issue that I >reported earlier. This seemed to be going well, but failed in the same >place, with 0 bytes free in /dev. > >I guess I will have to wait for a new version of Orleans that uses the >updated anaconda. > > >Brian > > How much ram in the system? Our current install process writes dev to a ramdisk, and if you don't have enough ram, it will run out of inodes. I've run into this with qemu only set to use 128MB. 256 works just fine. We've fixed this hopefully for a future version of rPath Linux. Strange though that rPath Linux is installing ok, even with a minimal install. Joseph From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Nov 28 12:09:33 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jASH9WYE002550 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:09:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 28832 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2005 17:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2005 17:09:14 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 21485-93 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:09:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:09:11 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051128170911.GA28805@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:09:33 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:38:41AM -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > How much ram in the system? Our current install process writes dev to a= =20 > ramdisk, and if you don't have enough ram, it will run out of inodes. =20 Yes, Joseph. Matt and I went into this last week. I see that you don't know my famous ( infamous? ) poster child for underpowered rPath installs -- Thinkpad 600E -- 128 Megs of ram ( used to have 64! ) -- 6Gig hard drive.=20 > Strange though that rPath Linux is installing ok, even with a minimal=20 > install. So you didn't think that you had fixed 0.99.1? Interesting. 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Matt and I went into this last week. I see that you don't >know my famous ( infamous? ) poster child for underpowered rPath >installs -- Thinkpad 600E -- 128 Megs of ram ( used to have 64! ) -- >6Gig hard drive. > > It encroached upon the outer regions of my cortex, so that's why I thought to ask the question. Now I recall the conversations. When the requirement for more ram cropped up, I'm not sure. Older releases (like 0.61) didn't need so much, but the 0.70 and 0.99 need more ram in order to install /dev devices (which are installed to a ramdisk). I've not yet determined, or been explained what changed, though both Anaconda and conary were revved between those two releases. The number of inodes required to install /dev devices should not have changed, but perhaps the way the ramdisk was created did. >So you didn't think that you had fixed 0.99.1? > > No, that commit went through Wednesday night. It's on our rpl:devel label, but not :1, where we make the releases that will become rpl 1.0 at the present time. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Nov 28 13:57:30 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jASIvTkT002689 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:57:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2005 18:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2005 18:57:11 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 20398-106 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:57:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:57:10 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051128185710.GA29462@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> <20051128170911.GA28805@bdmcc-us.com> <438B4296.90405@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <438B4296.90405@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:57:30 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > It encroached upon the outer regions of my cortex, so that's why I=20 > thought to ask the question. Now I recall the conversations. When the= =20 > requirement for more ram cropped up, I'm not sure. Older releases (like= =20 > 0.61) didn't need so much, but the 0.70 and 0.99 need more ram in order= =20 > to install /dev devices (which are installed to a ramdisk). I've not=20 Would it be possible -- I would offer to help if you have any specific tasks -- to keep the installer such that some version of rPath could be=20 installed on _almost_ any hardware ( at least Pentium -- 64 Meg? ). Because of what rBuilder is intended for, I can see this being=20 advantageous for existing "packaging" like Orleans or future variants that are intended for smaller installations. ( Also, for that matter, for the target market for "minimal" rPath. ) Brian --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIojCCCJ4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjUwggLuMIICV6ADAgECAgMP2MowDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA1MTExMzA1MTkzNFoXDTA2MTExMzA1 MTkzNFowYjETMBEGA1UEBBMKTWNDdWxsb3VnaDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFQnJpYW4xGTAXBgNVBAMT EEJyaWFuIE1jQ3VsbG91Z2gxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWJkbWNAYmRtY2MtdXMuY29tMIIB IjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAx+pvYvZwkuLBn9ygRg4vMGSqPmfOVXqc 8Pvaj1DnQZMpsBxN668mXS7fU22Jzo5Qlt/mfIiU1d4tC1G3K1Q7YiL0Jd6rCH2SQfz3Mj7k zY4o02rneQ/s2BqFW5ad34h8ius3blK+CEbFTYCmSpPxrG0UAcMgIJBBB0VE1I55MDIx4dSw 1awX+4c+ddXtqhomcXVnJNDWOfy4SVZiHJFZCNOhAJRXjmx42LHGqV3zNRRBYv5wELX44sDC zNrgQ+yvfaq8s8S0rOjHmTriwi/nQo/ualDEkJhN7bLIXfz6N6ly/OTkfFnkEXAEJgmowke0 Za3xMTqqrLyKhy/gvQO14QIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFiZG1jQGJkbWNjLXVzLmNv bTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAHS2FayxZvyiyQ6GrZv2Lsr151pc VPboCfqFBfrxbb3djC7wfmeCiLaYRCCj0c7FVQISuiYfGUhV4Xg2l6CMKy6NKknlQ72M+qvJ hh6MhfBzhfdliXnHf0qXsUXyHUug/vji4txKsb6l1Lhp3XhFWBTcwrySWv2RwrUcn/28NLet MIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxw ZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIz NTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV 84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GU MIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50 aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkG A1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUF AAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3h YWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQ Gls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP2MowCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTExMjgxODU3MTBaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRi/79txmHrKb6aPuMfPDS0rGnEyjBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQAYOrJroMA0JfI85qSskzJInEL8LVRBCDrJ cwVspNRm/7hgWyr+Ia/vmFWk5C/z3j1NQ4K0dyiUBWcTZWHtp7opGQbze86/ykgbPUQur8KX ou4rOB/UBcESshlTV847+vYt0kQtrpgzixc/1OuN2aLOpFetEjDRxJNnOelkowdSePhflnoD K+yvogI/U3JGoqEddYWk/NYAGcCSIekrfrwtUJX+MHa5bRhekfcWelDcoGkkc2Acc0SDvSVN vpLBp5GeGvc0rspQerUe3xz0LvfDPbQL7xoZEmv5e2LPq/rTSl7A9na+QsjDi/fW0oFKUPmn gTMQA/NWyo/BnmC0d+2Q --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From smithj@rpath.com Mon Nov 28 14:37:40 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jASJbdYl002820 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:37:40 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jASJbJ1u011870 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jASJbH0L021345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:37:18 -0500 Received: (from smithj@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jASJbHZg021344 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:37:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:37:16 -0500 From: smithj@rpath.com To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051128193716.GA20931@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:37:40 -0000 On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:28:08AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I guess I will have to wait for a new version of Orleans that uses the > updated anaconda. Sorry, but this might take awhile. I can't get the new groups to cook, and I don't have time to work on it now. But you're a developer for the project, so feel free to take a look :-) -smithj From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Nov 28 17:28:57 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jASMSuhj003385 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 31054 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2005 22:28:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2005 22:28:38 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 20398-129 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:28:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:28:35 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051128222835.GA30794@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <20051128193716.GA20931@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051128193716.GA20931@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:28:57 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 02:37:16PM -0500, smithj@rpath.com wrote: >=20 > Sorry, but this might take awhile. I can't get the new groups to cook, an= d I don't have time to work on it now. But you're a developer for the proje= ct, so feel free to take a look :-) Unfortunately, until I can get this to install, I don't have an rPath machine. I guess I will have to take down one of the other machines and install rPath before I can follow your suggestion. ( which one don't I need -- mail server? no -- httpd server? no --- ) I thought that I was having permission problems with the rBuilder web site before, but I can't find anything that doesn't seem to work. 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Message-ID: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:55:11 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Folks, In light of yesterday's conversation, I decided to overwrite one of my machines that is less used than the mail server. It is currently running tinysofa 2.1, successfully. I tried every rPath install disk that I have ( versions 0.24, 0.25, 0.50, 0.60, 0.99.1, and several Orleans install disks ), several of which I have successfully installed on the Thinkpad. Unfortunately, on this machine, I get to the boot prompt, hit Enter, and after seeing the "vmlinuz" and "initrd.img" messages, the system prints "Unpacking Linux..." and stops. I also tried the Ubuntu Live disk, without any problems. Any bright ideas, or is this machine somehow incompatible with this rPath? 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Message-ID: <20051129211815.GC18617@rpath.com> References: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:18:39 -0000 On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:54:48PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Any bright ideas, or is this machine somehow incompatible with this > rPath? What kind of CPU is in that machine? Pentium-class? Intel/AMD/Via? -- Matt Wilson rPath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From jmfmail@leaper.linuxtx.org Tue Nov 29 16:21:14 2005 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (c-67-163-99-44.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [67.163.99.44]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jATLLESH009592 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:21:14 -0500 Received: from leaper.linuxtx.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jATLKqIT009108 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:20:52 -0600 Received: (from jmfmail@localhost) by leaper.linuxtx.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jATLKq4Z009107 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:20:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:20:52 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Help! Message-ID: <20051129212052.GA31760@linuxtx.org> References: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:21:14 -0000 On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:54:48PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > installed on the Thinkpad. Unfortunately, on this machine, I get to the > boot prompt, hit Enter, and after seeing the "vmlinuz" and "initrd.img" > messages, the system prints "Unpacking Linux..." and stops. > What is the CPU on this system? At this time our distribution expects a minimum i686 class CPU. Thanks, Justin From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 29 16:45:26 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jATLjPM3009828 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2005 21:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2005 21:45:07 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 32555-108 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:04 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Help! Message-ID: <20051129214504.GA7878@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051129175448.GA6314@bdmcc-us.com> <20051129212052.GA31760@linuxtx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051129212052.GA31760@linuxtx.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:45:26 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:20:52PM -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:54:48PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > >=20 > What is the CPU on this system? At this time our distribution expects a > minimum i686 class CPU. 800 MHz Athlon -- I will re-check this evening, but that's what I remember seeing last night. > Thanks, > Justin Thank you, Brian --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIojCCCJ4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjUwggLuMIICV6ADAgECAgMP2MowDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA1MTExMzA1MTkzNFoXDTA2MTExMzA1 MTkzNFowYjETMBEGA1UEBBMKTWNDdWxsb3VnaDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFQnJpYW4xGTAXBgNVBAMT EEJyaWFuIE1jQ3VsbG91Z2gxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWJkbWNAYmRtY2MtdXMuY29tMIIB IjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAx+pvYvZwkuLBn9ygRg4vMGSqPmfOVXqc 8Pvaj1DnQZMpsBxN668mXS7fU22Jzo5Qlt/mfIiU1d4tC1G3K1Q7YiL0Jd6rCH2SQfz3Mj7k zY4o02rneQ/s2BqFW5ad34h8ius3blK+CEbFTYCmSpPxrG0UAcMgIJBBB0VE1I55MDIx4dSw 1awX+4c+ddXtqhomcXVnJNDWOfy4SVZiHJFZCNOhAJRXjmx42LHGqV3zNRRBYv5wELX44sDC zNrgQ+yvfaq8s8S0rOjHmTriwi/nQo/ualDEkJhN7bLIXfz6N6ly/OTkfFnkEXAEJgmowke0 Za3xMTqqrLyKhy/gvQO14QIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFiZG1jQGJkbWNjLXVzLmNv bTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAHS2FayxZvyiyQ6GrZv2Lsr151pc VPboCfqFBfrxbb3djC7wfmeCiLaYRCCj0c7FVQISuiYfGUhV4Xg2l6CMKy6NKknlQ72M+qvJ hh6MhfBzhfdliXnHf0qXsUXyHUug/vji4txKsb6l1Lhp3XhFWBTcwrySWv2RwrUcn/28NLet MIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxw ZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIz NTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31 W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV 84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GU MIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50 aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkG A1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUF AAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3h YWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQ Gls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP2MowCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTExMjkyMTQ1MDNaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTFKrhCEaHuA+eEQtjSxVse9oNR/TBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQCoKhXX3k+4PRe3R1FWb3f8vdJ33c9PCq/G MU9+QleuPAz4jum8gKhKCHluoFmqPLr0Nfq/VATybGj2tPKYsq2sqtgkkDxnQwyAT4i3XmiR M2eZK104FEXtaQQ1RbroTOHMYC/BNMU6EgRGFUvw2GzUUj//ncUc0GQ2+LO6kVgwtRiXRFv7 8+hBzJBXmCEGc9ZVaCI0UtIXUo/p27d7JHKUZUidDQh0yjt5D0eht6ik03AYYPeZbuZpx+Zj BIZOuZKroNfnKJflQXLTRNxidgvkfIr/okXvj68mHl6/pNTKifdFhTOgqvpw79tOBDj9pgYi lx9aVwo4htgqBs+iT9E3 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 29 22:20:46 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jAU3Kj0h011759 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:20:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 11030 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2005 03:20:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2005 03:20:27 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 31880-130 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from bard.bdmcc-us.com (HELO localhost) (192.168.1.123) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2005 03:20:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:17:03 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: "distro-list@lists.rpath.com" Subject: Hardware Message-Id: <20051129221703.0600805a.bdmc@bdmcc-us.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.1 (GTK+ 2.6.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:20:46 -0000 I was wrong. The machine that was failing is a 533 MHz "VIA Ezra". I resurrected an old 300 MHz Celeron that I had basically retired for parts, and installed Orleans on it. Actually, I started to install Orleans. I found that I had to go through five different CD drives before I found one that seemed to work. The Orleans install stopped about half way through with read errors. With two of the other drives the installer didn't seem to see the drive after booting. I am now installing rPath 0.99.1, waiting for the dependency check right now. I hope to have an rPath development machine soon. Brian From msw@rpath.com Tue Nov 29 22:43:02 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAU3h1ND011823 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:43:02 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jAU3gdfU010329 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAU3gcDk030106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:42:38 -0500 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jAU3gbT1030105 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:42:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:42:37 -0500 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Hardware Message-ID: <20051130034237.GH18617@rpath.com> References: <20051129221703.0600805a.bdmc@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051129221703.0600805a.bdmc@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:43:02 -0000 On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:17:03PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I was wrong. > > The machine that was failing is a 533 MHz "VIA Ezra". Indeed. This chip does not support the CMOV instruction, which is required by the default kernel... -- Matt Wilson rPath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Nov 30 10:53:42 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jAUFrfn7013585 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:53:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 20454 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2005 15:53:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2005 15:53:22 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 14799-69 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:53:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:53:20 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: 0.99.1 Message-ID: <20051130155320.GA20141@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:53:42 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OK, I have got 0.99.1 installed. However, although I am not going to enter this into BugZilla yet, I consider the following behaviour a bug. This machine is on my server rack and does _not_ have a mouse, nor access to a mouse. For that reason, and because the installer asked, I installed under text mode. However, "firstboot.py" insisted on starting X and without a mouse it was difficult to answer the questions properly. In fact, when it asked for the display resolution I found that I could not either answer the questions or go ahead. I managed to go to a different virtual terminal, changed the default runlevel in inittab and rebooted. Everything ( so far ) appears to be working correctly, so on to the next step. 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Forbes" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: group-dist trimming Message-ID: <20051207155016.GA14490@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:40:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:50:45 -0000 Group-dist is the group which determines which troves are actually included on the CD and default installed with an "everything installation". It does make sense to move lesser used troves out of group-dist and limit the amount everyone has to download with each release. To this end I have been evaluating a few candidates for a migration to group-os. These troves would still be available in the repository, and maintained in the same manner which they have always been. I have listed the first few candidates I ran across below. I am sure there are more, any ideas out there? For criteria, nothing can have a dependency on the troves to be moved. If a dep is not on the CD "Bad Things Can Happen". Found so far: distcc oprofile rdist samba-swat shapecfg swig Additional Possibilites: expect expectk umb-scheme Thanks, Justin From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Dec 7 11:54:39 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7GscPu001259 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:54:39 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jB7GsEfU002227 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7GsEaQ000568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:54:14 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB7GsDwQ000567 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:54:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:54:13 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( 2 ) Message-ID: <20051207165413.GA31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051126161941.GA12899@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051126161941.GA12899@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:54:39 -0000 On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:19:41AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > Incidentally, another item that I forgot to mention -- anaconda is no > longer recognizing the mouse in my Thinkpad ( the internal ) when it is > setting up X. We saw this one one much more modern thinkpad when the pad was disabled (by someone who likes to use only the trackpoint). It was fixed by going into bios and re-enabling the pad for the installation process. I suspect this is an upstream kernel thing. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Dec 7 14:12:01 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jB7JC0J6001542 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:12:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 21201 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2005 19:11:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2005 19:11:38 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 11902-138 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:11:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:11:36 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( 2 ) Message-ID: <20051207191136.GA21145@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051126161941.GA12899@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207165413.GA31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207165413.GA31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:12:01 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:54:13AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:19:41AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Incidentally, another item that I forgot to mention -- anaconda is no > > longer recognizing the mouse in my Thinkpad ( the internal ) when it is >=20 > We saw this one one much more modern thinkpad when the pad was > disabled (by someone who likes to use only the trackpoint). It > was fixed by going into bios and re-enabling the pad for the > installation process. >=20 > I suspect this is an upstream kernel thing. When I read the first paragraph, I was going to answer that it _was_ enabled, but then I saw your last sentence. ( And of course, there _is_ no pad on this machine, only the "little red button". ) Brian This is changed behaviour -- other versions of both rPath and Orleans have no problems, and, of course, other installations don't have any problems, either. 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Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: group-dist trimming Message-ID: <20051207191517.GB31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051207155016.GA14490@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207155016.GA14490@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:15:42 -0000 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:50:17AM -0500, Justin M. Forbes wrote: > Group-dist is the group which determines which troves are actually included > on the CD and default installed with an "everything installation". It does > make sense to move lesser used troves out of group-dist and limit the > amount everyone has to download with each release. To this end I have been > evaluating a few candidates for a migration to group-os. These troves > would still be available in the repository, and maintained in the same > manner which they have always been. In particular, this means that things in group-os get security updates on the same schedule as group-dist. In general, we consider the CD images just a way to get started. Most Linux distros consider the CD images to be the golden source of bits; we consider the repository to be the golden source of bits. This means that we are optimizing the CD not for the programs that are most "important", but for those that are most *likely* to be used over all installs, or are reasonably likely to be used to get network access to install other things from the repository, and then secondarily the dependency closure of those packages. There are plenty of important programs that aren't on the CD. To give some ideas of really critical packages that are appropriately not on the CD images: dovecot, ethereal, fonts-chinese, mailman, mozilla, mysql, postgresql, spamassassin, squirrelmail, thunderbird, vsftpd. All of these packages are important, and the fact that they aren't on the CD does not in any way relegate them to some sort of second-class citizenship in the OS. I provide that list to avoid people thinking that their favorite app moving off the CD is demoting it somehow. :-) If folks want images that have the entire distro, that wouldn't be hard to do in an rBO project. Oh, one other thing. It means that for existing installs, if you just do an update, some programs might disappear from your system. So we need to publish when we do this so that people don't accidentally erase programs that they need. Pinning them while doing the update would suffice. > I have listed the first few candidates > I ran across below. I am sure there are more, any ideas out there? For > criteria, nothing can have a dependency on the troves to be moved. If a > dep is not on the CD "Bad Things Can Happen". > > Found so far: > distcc > oprofile > rdist > samba-swat > shapecfg > swig I agree with all of these. > Additional Possibilites: > expect > expectk > umb-scheme I don't think we can do umb-scheme: guile/guile.recipe: r.Requires('umb-scheme:runtime', '%(datadir)s/guile/' + l) I believe guile is a req for too many things on the CDs, though I have not checked for sure. inkscape? I use it and love it, but I suspect that it's one of those packages that while it's quite a critical package, it isn't useful in enough people that it needs to be on the CD for rPath Linux. I think it would obviously have to be on any "Look, Shiny!" (http://shiny.rpath.org/) CD release, but that's a different animal. :-) I'd suggest xterm as a candidate, but I think that all the environments use it for fallback, so it's a real dependency. How important is it for hwbrowser to be on the CD? I mean, from the standpoint of support, I want lspci output... How many people on this list have actually used hwbrowser other than perhaps checking to see what it is or how it works? icon-slicer is a buildreq, but I doubt it needs to be on the CD. ipvsadm can probably move off the CD. If it's listed as a dep of anything on the CD, we should probably figure out why... From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Dec 7 14:16:49 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7JGm4t001596 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:16:48 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jB7JGOWe019067 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7JGNEN015972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:16:23 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB7JGNHe015971 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:16:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:16:23 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( 2 ) Message-ID: <20051207191623.GC31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051126161941.GA12899@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207165413.GA31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <20051207191136.GA21145@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207191136.GA21145@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:16:49 -0000 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:11:36PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > This is changed behaviour -- other versions of both rPath and Orleans > have no problems, and, of course, other installations don't have any > problems, either. Well, with the trackpad problem that we say on the T43, it was also changed behavior that (IIUC) showed up for the first time in rPath Linux 0.99.0. I still suspect that it is due to an upstream kernel change that we inherited. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Dec 7 15:22:20 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jB7KMJmk001708 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 21656 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2005 20:21:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2005 20:21:57 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 12316-131 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:21:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:21:54 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( 2 ) Message-ID: <20051207202154.GA21635@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051126161941.GA12899@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207165413.GA31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <20051207191136.GA21145@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207191623.GC31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207191623.GC31237@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:22:20 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:16:23PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:11:36PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > This is changed behaviour -- other versions of both rPath and Orleans > > have no problems, and, of course, other installations don't have any > > problems, either. >=20 > Well, with the trackpad problem that we say on the T43, it was also > changed behavior that (IIUC) showed up for the first time in rPath > Linux 0.99.0. I still suspect that it is due to an upstream kernel > change that we inherited. Oh, yes. I was agreeing, even if it wasn't clear. 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Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:30:35 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jB7NUAWe026584 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7NU9h8017161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:30:09 -0500 Received: (from eanderson@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB7NU9vs017160 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:30:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:30:09 -0500 From: Ed Anderson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051207233009.GA30412@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> <20051128170911.GA28805@bdmcc-us.com> <438B4296.90405@rpath.com> <20051128185710.GA29462@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051128185710.GA29462@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:30:35 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Orleans 0.95 has the minimal /dev filesystem that should fix your problem. Test it out, and let us know how it goes. On 28/11/05 13:57 -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > > > It encroached upon the outer regions of my cortex, so that's why I=20 > > thought to ask the question. Now I recall the conversations. When the= =20 > > requirement for more ram cropped up, I'm not sure. Older releases (lik= e=20 > > 0.61) didn't need so much, but the 0.70 and 0.99 need more ram in order= =20 > > to install /dev devices (which are installed to a ramdisk). I've not= =20 >=20 > Would it be possible -- I would offer to help if you have any specific > tasks -- to keep the installer such that some version of rPath could be= =20 > installed on _almost_ any hardware ( at least Pentium -- 64 Meg? ). >=20 >=20 > Because of what rBuilder is intended for, I can see this being=20 > advantageous for existing "packaging" like Orleans or future variants > that are intended for smaller installations. ( Also, for that matter, > for the target market for "minimal" rPath. ) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Brian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDl3CBHtA6gB/4xo4RAhnsAJ9bSMbibjYWv6+HULLJrLIdIG+1OQCfTT1g mddAu8uhFeXYfB0JVVWA7Dk= =bzVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Dec 8 08:14:59 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jB8DEvgQ003328 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:14:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 28036 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2005 13:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2005 13:14:34 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 23065-58 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:14:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:14:33 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051208131433.GA27948@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> <20051128170911.GA28805@bdmcc-us.com> <438B4296.90405@rpath.com> <20051128185710.GA29462@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207233009.GA30412@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207233009.GA30412@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:14:59 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:30:09PM -0500, Ed Anderson wrote: > Orleans 0.95 has the minimal /dev filesystem that should fix your problem. > Test it out, and let us know how it goes. I tried to download that build ( which one -- there are two???? ) last night but it stalled at about two thirds, so I have re-started the download. I won't have a CD by this evening, so won't be able to give results at the meeting, but soon. B-) --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDmDG5mbnLR4qjJ5ERAjeOAJ9JolAYdDgjR538VeZtViHJV4IQDwCfaVpv eN4IQSmpyyKESLAgPy1dpUY= =7gvu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From eanderson@rpath.com Thu Dec 8 11:38:26 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB8GcQ0A003670 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:38:26 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jB8Gc04p014751 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB8GbwTC016264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:37:58 -0500 Received: (from eanderson@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB8Gbw3c016263 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:37:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:37:58 -0500 From: Ed Anderson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath 0.99.1 ( continued ) Message-ID: <20051208163757.GA9932@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051128162808.GA28540@bdmcc-us.com> <438B3291.9070205@rpath.com> <20051128170911.GA28805@bdmcc-us.com> <438B4296.90405@rpath.com> <20051128185710.GA29462@bdmcc-us.com> <20051207233009.GA30412@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <20051208131433.GA27948@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051208131433.GA27948@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:38:26 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/12/05 08:14 -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:30:09PM -0500, Ed Anderson wrote: > > Orleans 0.95 has the minimal /dev filesystem that should fix your probl= em. > > Test it out, and let us know how it goes. >=20 > I tried to download that build ( which one -- there are two???? ) last That was an accident. There's only one 0.95 release now. :) > night but it stalled at about two thirds, so I have re-started the > download. I won't have a CD by this evening, so won't be able to give > results at the meeting, but soon. >=20 > B-) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDmGFlHtA6gB/4xo4RArNlAJ9Idf1uzpEfFWUyTRAw67PPOdiwcQCfcHJO UuUekyCYvglmLnN/Qh2QeTU= =pgEe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Dec 9 01:40:13 2005 Received: from bdmcc-us.com (client230-180.dsl.intrex.net [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jB96eC19005233 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:40:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 489 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2005 06:39:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.10.10.10) by bdmcc-us.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 06:39:49 -0000 Received: from QMQPqq client ([127.10.10.10]) by localhost (oifis2 [127.10.10.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10628) with QMQPqq id 22094-143 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:39:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:39:47 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Ta-Daaa??? Message-ID: <20051209063947.GA443@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:40:13 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Well, I got the Orleans 0.95 CD, and was successful in installing on my Thinkpad. No problems with partitioning ( LVM ) or anything else. ( One thing that I have noticed is that when I tell Grub setup that there are other bootable partitions on the system, it calls them ( Linux partitions ) DOS, and tries to boot them as DOS. I have also noticed, and don't know if it is just a quirk of my particular machine and combination of software, or if this is a real issue, but when I rebooted after installing, I found myself in the previous installation's Grub menu, not the Orleans one. Looking at the partition table, I discovered that there were two partitions marked bootable. OK, so I edited menu.lst on the old system to include a reference to Orleans' partition, and rebooted. Kernel panic. It looks as if there are LVM issues in the boot kernel. I will re-install tomorrow using "real" partitions, and see what happens. 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Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.99.2 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051209230918.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:09:46 -0000 rPath Linux 0.99.2 is now available for download. It contains Conary 0.80.0 (the most recent version with lots of new features), Firefox 1.5, a new version of udev, new MAKEDEV and dev packages adjusted for udev, and Linux kernel 2.6.13.4 (downgraded because of IDE problems in a few cases in upstream 2.6.14 releases). It also contains new packages that are requirements for OpenOffice.org 2.0.0: perl-Archive-Zip, perl-Compress-Zlib, Sablot, libmspack, libsndfile, libwpd, nas, and portaudio. It does not contain OpenOffice.org 2.0 because of a bug affecting saving new files; we hope to have OpenOffice.org 2.0 in an rPath Linux release in the near future. Other updates include: o system-config-securitylevel has been fixed; it now runs correctly. o lm_sensors: fixed to configure correctly with new udev. o vim-minimal: the vim-minimal binary is now correctly placed in the vim-minimal package. o shadow: fixed to add a necessary info-user dependency. All the troves (groups, packages, and components) in this release are cryptographically signed to allow Conary to verify their integrity. Conary will download from the Conary repository all the keys required to verify those signatures, and will check those signatures before installing the packages. If you are updating an existing installation of rPath Linux instead of installing new, there are two important pieces of information you need explaining how to update: o The udev update is best handled specially, so use the script we provide to do it separately at: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jforbes/5666.html o A few users are seeing some metadata showing up in unexpected places in their databases resulting in TroveIntegrityError showing up. If you encounter new TroveIntegrityErrors, please read the instructions for resolving the errors at: http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/msw/2005/12/08/troubling_build_requirement_trove_info Download this release from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.99.2/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews Thank you for your interest in rPath Linux! From tgerla@rpath.com Mon Dec 12 11:23:29 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBCGNTdb012515 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:29 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBCGN1fU010228 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.58.68] (marshank.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.68]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBCGMxRI019864 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: <439DA3E3.4010109@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:22:59 -0500 From: Tim Gerla Organization: rpath, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.99.2 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 References: <20051209230918.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20051209230918.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:23:29 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > rPath Linux 0.99.2 is now available for download. It contains > Conary 0.80.0 (the most recent version with lots of new features), > Firefox 1.5, a new version of udev, new MAKEDEV and dev packages > adjusted for udev, and Linux kernel 2.6.13.4 (downgraded because > of IDE problems in a few cases in upstream 2.6.14 releases). > Due to a bug in the ISO generation process, you might notice that the x86 version of rPath Linux 0.99.2 has an "isolinux" splash screen that refers to Orleans Linux: http://www.rpath.org/project/orleans/ Orleans Linux is a derivative distribution based on rPath Linux. The isolinux splash screen is the only item that comes from Orleans; everything else is rPath Linux! -Tim From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Dec 12 18:12:17 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBCNCHE1013051 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:12:17 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBCNBoWe020121 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBCNBnAF008064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:11:49 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBCNBnVO008063 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:11:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:11:49 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 0.99.2 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051212231148.GA7477@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20051209230918.GA28760@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <439DA3E3.4010109@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439DA3E3.4010109@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:12:17 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:22:59AM -0500, Tim Gerla wrote: > Due to a bug in the ISO generation process, you might notice that the > x86 version of rPath Linux 0.99.2 has an "isolinux" splash screen that > refers to Orleans Linux: http://www.rpath.org/project/orleans/ > > Orleans Linux is a derivative distribution based on rPath Linux. The > isolinux splash screen is the only item that comes from Orleans; > everything else is rPath Linux! Anaconda also needed to be updated for the new dev package with fewer devices, and did not install a new copy of grub on the master boot record. Both of these issues have been resolved in new ISO images that have now been posted. The new md5sums are: 691516cfb8e9365743f44bd26f1bcd9f rPath-Linux-0.99.2-i386-disc1.iso 4b0dddde4a9f598f84f3f0d11aa376b6 rPath-Linux-0.99.2-i386-disc2.iso aac1a5805c195b802a4ef59991a1a826 rPath-Linux-0.99.2-x86_64-disc1.iso 3e0d2e7793e83d9bd6ddde097e9257b4 rPath-Linux-0.99.2-x86_64-disc2.iso We chose to post new images rather than generate a new release because none of the software installed from the images has been changed, and to change the version number of the release we would have to change at least the group-dist version on the images. In the Conary world, the contents of the repository (rather than any ISO images) are the canonical form of the distribution; the ISO images are merely a way of installing software from the repository on a system. So until mirrors update, we recommend that you download any new installation ISO images directly from download.rpath.com From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Dec 22 14:55:06 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBMJt63Y004018 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:55:06 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBMJsZ1u027177 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBMJsYhn029728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:54:34 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBMJsYA6029726 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:54:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:54:34 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.99.3 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20051222195434.GA29505@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:55:06 -0000 rPath Linux 0.99.3 is now available for download. It contains Conary 0.80.2, a new kernel with a fix for the IDE problem we saw before, new mysql and postgresql major versions, and more! In particular, we have: o kernel 2.6.14.4, with a fix added for the IDE problems that had caused us to revert previously. o mysql 5.0.16 (very-highly-requested major version update) and its dependencies (php, perl-DBD-MySQL, qt) rebuilt. o postgresql 8.1.1 (highly-requested minor version update) and its dependencies (php, perl-DBD-pg) rebuilt. o firefox fix for CPU hang on certain UI operations. o Conary 0.80.2 o cups: SECURITY: Fix for CAN-2005-2097 o curl: SECURITY: 7.15.1 upstream fix for URL buffer overflow. o perl: SECURITY: Fix for CVE-2005-3962 Perl format string integer wrap vulnerability o anaconda: install fixes for grub. o kid: 0.8 new upstream version with enhancements for Conary o poppler: SECURITY: CVE-2005-3191 and CVE-2005-2097, also built library correctly to fix evince. o gmp: no longer depends on Pentium IV instruction set; allows Conary to run on hardware such as Pentium III and some Athlon processors that do not implement the SSE2 instructions. o initscripts: Fixes for LVM capability. o gnome-vfs: Added runtime dependencies so that programs such as eog work reliably even if group-gnome is not installed on the system. (eog was rebuilt in the process of adding the correct runtime dependencies, and so also has a new version.) Download this release from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.99.3/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews Thank you for your interest in rPath Linux! From tgerla@rpath.com Thu Dec 29 10:28:32 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBTFSWPH015872 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:28:32 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBTFRvfU017482 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.65.17] (tgerla.rdu-vpn.rpath.com [172.16.65.17]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBTFRutR027132; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:27:56 -0500 Message-ID: <43B40079.4020504@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:27:53 -0500 From: Tim Gerla Organization: rpath, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smithj@rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: elementtree=0-2 References: <43b3e224.uSnK4m5xWgljskgP%rbuilder@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <43b3e224.uSnK4m5xWgljskgP%rbuilder@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Is this redirect still good? Should it be updated to point to an conary.rpath.com trove? -Tim rbuilder@rpath.com wrote: > ================================ > elementtree:source=0-2 (previous: 0-1) > cvc rdiff elementtree -1 /contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel/0-2 > ================================ > 0-2 Jonathan Smith (smithj) (http://bugs.rpath.com) Thu Dec 29 08:18:25 2005 > added MIT licence, fixed copyright holder, deleted trailing whitespace > > elementtree.recipe: changed > Index: elementtree.recipe > ==================================================================== > contents(size sha1) > inode(mtime owner group) > --- elementtree.recipe /contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel/0-1 > +++ elementtree.recipe /contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel/0-2 > @@ -1,11 +1,12 @@ > # > -# Copyright (c) 2005 Specifix, Inc. > -# All rights reserved > +# Copyright (c) 2005 rPath, Inc. > +# This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. > +# A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html > # > > class ElementTree(RedirectRecipe): > name = 'elementtree' > version = '0' > - > + > def setup(r): > r.addRedirect("elementtree", "/conary.specifix.com@spx:devel/1.2.20040618-1-1") > From chaos@in.fer.no Thu Jan 5 21:50:44 2006 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k062oi6E017145 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:50:44 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.21] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07868894002 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 03:51:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43BDDB00.3080104@in.fer.no> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:50:40 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Improved subversion recipe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080002060003020501000805" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 02:50:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080002060003020501000805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have improved the subversion recipe. Changes: * Added python support. * Added config files, making it easy to set up a repository. * Removed the Berkeley DB backend. The fsfs backend have been the default for some time now, and the bdb backend have been error prone. Apr/Neon is linked against db, so the dependency on db still exists. * Added a small README with basic instructions for setting up a repository. * Removed the non-functional perl support. I could not get it running, but I will make another attempt later. I am tempted to update to the new 1.3.0 release, but there have been reported problems with the python/swig integration, so I think it is a good idea to wait until 1.3.1 Geir --------------080002060003020501000805 Content-Type: text/plain; name="subversion.recipe" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="subversion.recipe" # # Copyright (c) 2004-2005 rPath, Inc. # This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html # # Get python version from this label loadInstalled('python.recipe') class Subversion(AutoPackageRecipe): name = 'subversion' version = '1.2.3' buildRequires = [ 'autoconf:runtime', 'libtool:runtime', 'python:devel', 'python:runtime', 'db:devel', 'apr:devel', 'apr-util:devel', 'neon:devel', 'httpd:devel', 'swig:runtime', 'which:runtime', 'krb5:devellib', 'expat:devel', 'libxml2:devel', 'zlib:devel', 'gettext:runtime', 'krb5:devel', 'httpd:runtime', 'e2fsprogs:devel', 'openldap:devel', 'perl:runtime', 'openssl:devel'] if Use.builddocs: buildRequires.extend(['texinfo:runtime', 'docbook-xsl:data']) def unpack(r): r.disableParallelMake() # svnparentpath is the directory containing the repositories r.macros.svnparentpath = '%(servicedir)s/subversion' # Should 'svnconfdir' be equal to 'svnparentpath' instead of # /etc/subversion? The directory does not contain any configs for # subversion per se, it contains the configs for the repositories # living in 'svnparentpath'. It makes sense for installations with # multiple 'svnparentpath' configuration. r.macros.svnconfdir = '%(sysconfdir)s/subversion' r.macros.pydir = Python.sitepkgs r.macros.swigdirs = "swig_pydir=%(pydir)s/libsvn swig_pydir_extra=%(pydir)s/svn" r.addArchive('http://subversion.tigris.org/tarballs/subversion-%(version)s.tar.bz2', keyid='641E358B') r.addSource('subversion.conf', dest='%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf') r.addSource('useraccess.conf', dest='%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess.conf') r.addSource('README', dest='%(svnconfdir)s/README') r.Replace(('SVN_PARENT_PATH','%(svnparentpath)s'),('SVN_CONF_DIR','%(svnconfdir)s'), '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', '%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess.conf', '%(svnconfdir)s/README') r.addSource('users.conf', contents='', dest='%(svnconfdir)s/users.conf') def configure(r): r.Configure('--with-neon=%(prefix)s ' '--with-apr=%(prefix)s ' '--with-apr-util=%(prefix)s ' '--without-berkeley-db ' '--disable-mod-activation') def makeinstall(r): r.MakeInstall() r.Make('swig-py %(swigdirs)s') r.Make('install-swig-py %(swigdirs)s', preMake='DESTDIR=%(destdir)s') r.MakeDirs('%(svnparentpath)s') def policy(r): r.PackageSpec('mod_dav_svn', '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', '%(libdir)s/httpd/', '%(svnconfdir)s/') r.ComponentSpec('python', '%(libdir)s/libsvn_swig_py.*', '%(pydir)s/') r.ExcludeDirectories(exceptions='%(svnparentpath)s') --------------080002060003020501000805 Content-Type: text/plain; name="subversion.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="subversion.conf" #LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so #LoadModule authz_svn_module modules/mod_authz_svn.so # # Example configuration to enable HTTP access for all Subversion # repositories in "SVN_PARENT_PATH". These repositories must be # readable and writable by the 'apache' user. # # # DAV svn # SVNParentPath SVN_PARENT_PATH # # # our access control policy # AuthzSVNAccessFile SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess.conf # # # only authenticated users may access the repository # Require valid-user # # # how to authenticate a user # AuthType Basic # AuthName "Subversion repository" # AuthUserFile SVN_CONF_DIR/users.conf # # # Require SSL connection for password protection. # # SSLRequireSSL # --------------080002060003020501000805 Content-Type: text/plain; name="useraccess.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="useraccess.conf" # # SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess.conf. Subversion user authorization # # # Grant all users in SVN_CONF_DIR/users.conf full access (read # and write) to all repositories. # [/] * = rw --------------080002060003020501000805 Content-Type: text/plain; name="README" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="README" Setting up Subversion with http access 1. Create the repository: svnadmin create SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject chown --recursive apache.apache SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject All repositories created in SVN_PARENT_PATH will be accessible trough http. 2. Add users: htpasswd SVN_CONF_DIR/users.conf jane 3. Enable subversion support in apache: Remove comments from /etc/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf and restart apache. Done! Your project should now be available at http://localhost/svn/myproject All users should now have full access (read and write) to the repository. It's possible to set up finer-grained permissions in SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess.conf. --------------080002060003020501000805-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Jan 6 15:33:22 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k06KXM1s018709 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:33:22 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k06KXFWe013897 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k06KXFTC001421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:33:15 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k06KXFha001420 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:33:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:33:15 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Improved subversion recipe Message-ID: <20060106203314.GA911@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <43BDDB00.3080104@in.fer.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43BDDB00.3080104@in.fer.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:33:22 -0000 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:50:40AM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > * Added python support. Sounds good. > * Added config files, making it easy to set up a repository. Also good. > * Removed the Berkeley DB backend. The fsfs backend have been the > default for some time now, and the bdb backend have been error prone. While I think that the bdb backend was a spectacularly bad idea, I'm also concerned that removing it will make some people's existing repos inaccessible. Is this fair? > * Added a small README with basic instructions for setting up a repository. %(thisdocdir)s is the best place for it -- probably as something like README.setup > * Removed the non-functional perl support. I could not get it running, > but I will make another attempt later. Makes sense. > I am tempted to update to the new 1.3.0 release, but there have been > reported problems with the python/swig integration, so I think it is a > good idea to wait until 1.3.1 OK, this makes sense too. From chaos@in.fer.no Fri Jan 6 19:16:49 2006 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k070Gnss019184 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:16:49 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.21] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA88F858002; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 01:17:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43BF086C.30000@in.fer.no> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 01:16:44 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, elliot@bentlogic.net Subject: Re: Improved subversion recipe References: <43BDDB00.3080104@in.fer.no> <20060106203314.GA911@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20060106203314.GA911@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000509040901020406040906" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:16:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000509040901020406040906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:50:40AM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > >>* Removed the Berkeley DB backend. The fsfs backend have been the >>default for some time now, and the bdb backend have been error prone. > > While I think that the bdb backend was a spectacularly bad idea, I'm > also concerned that removing it will make some people's existing > repos inaccessible. Is this fair? > OK, I have put it back. > >>* Added a small README with basic instructions for setting up a repository. > > > %(thisdocdir)s is the best place for it -- probably as something like > README.setup > Moved to %(thisdocdir)s/README.quickstart I have removed the .conf suffix from /etc/subversion/(users|useraccess), since the other default config files in that directory don't have them. (eg. /etc/subversion/servers). TODO: * Fix perl bindings * remove the clutter in %(thisdocdir)s As soon as Elliot have checked these patches, I will commit. Geir --------------000509040901020406040906 Content-Type: text/plain; name="subversion.recipe" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="subversion.recipe" # # Copyright (c) 2004-2005 rPath, Inc. # This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html # # Get python version from this label loadInstalled('python.recipe') class Subversion(AutoPackageRecipe): name = 'subversion' version = '1.2.3' buildRequires = [ 'autoconf:runtime', 'libtool:runtime', 'python:devel', 'python:runtime', 'db:devel', 'apr:devel', 'apr-util:devel', 'neon:devel', 'httpd:devel', 'swig:runtime', 'which:runtime', 'krb5:devellib', 'expat:devel', 'libxml2:devel', 'zlib:devel', 'gettext:runtime', 'krb5:devel', 'httpd:runtime', 'e2fsprogs:devel', 'openldap:devel', 'perl:runtime', 'openssl:devel'] if Use.builddocs: buildRequires.extend(['texinfo:runtime', 'docbook-xsl:data']) def unpack(r): r.disableParallelMake() # svnparentpath is the directory containing the repositories r.macros.svnparentpath = '%(servicedir)s/subversion' # Should 'svnconfdir' be equal to 'svnparentpath' instead of # /etc/subversion? The directory does not contain any configs for # subversion per se, it contains the configs for the repositories # living in 'svnparentpath'. It makes sense for installations with # multiple 'svnparentpath' configuration. r.macros.svnconfdir = '%(sysconfdir)s/subversion' r.macros.pydir = Python.sitepkgs r.macros.swigdirs = "swig_pydir=%(pydir)s/libsvn swig_pydir_extra=%(pydir)s/svn" r.addArchive('http://subversion.tigris.org/tarballs/subversion-%(version)s.tar.bz2', keyid='641E358B') r.addSource('subversion.conf', dest='%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf') r.addSource('useraccess', dest='%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess') r.addSource('README.quickstart', dest='%(thisdocdir)s/README.quickstart') r.Replace(('SVN_PARENT_PATH','%(svnparentpath)s'),('SVN_CONF_DIR','%(svnconfdir)s'), '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', '%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess', '%(thisdocdir)s/README.quickstart') r.addSource('users', contents='', dest='%(svnconfdir)s/users') def configure(r): r.Configure('--with-neon=%(prefix)s ' '--with-apr=%(prefix)s ' '--with-apr-util=%(prefix)s ' '--disable-mod-activation') def makeinstall(r): r.MakeInstall() r.Make('swig-py %(swigdirs)s') r.Make('install-swig-py %(swigdirs)s', preMake='DESTDIR=%(destdir)s') r.MakeDirs('%(svnparentpath)s') def policy(r): r.PackageSpec('mod_dav_svn', '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', '%(libdir)s/httpd/', '%(svnconfdir)s/') r.ComponentSpec('python', '%(libdir)s/libsvn_swig_py.*', '%(pydir)s/') r.ExcludeDirectories(exceptions='%(svnparentpath)s') --------------000509040901020406040906 Content-Type: text/plain; name="subversion.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="subversion.conf" #LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so #LoadModule authz_svn_module modules/mod_authz_svn.so # # Example configuration to enable HTTP access for all Subversion # repositories in "SVN_PARENT_PATH". These repositories must be # readable and writable by the 'apache' user. # # # DAV svn # SVNParentPath SVN_PARENT_PATH # # # only authenticated users may access the repository # Require valid-user # # # how to authenticate a user # AuthType Basic # AuthName "Subversion repository" # AuthUserFile SVN_CONF_DIR/users # # # our access control policy # AuthzSVNAccessFile SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess # # # Require SSL connection for password protection. # # SSLRequireSSL # --------------000509040901020406040906 Content-Type: text/plain; name="useraccess" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="useraccess" # # SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess. Subversion user authorization # # # Grant all users in SVN_CONF_DIR/users full access (read # and write) to all repositories. # [/] * = rw --------------000509040901020406040906 Content-Type: text/plain; name="README.quickstart" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="README.quickstart" Setting up Subversion with http access 1. Create the repository: svnadmin create SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject chown --recursive apache.apache SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject All repositories created in SVN_PARENT_PATH will be accessible trough http. 2. Add users: htpasswd SVN_CONF_DIR/users jane 3. Enable subversion support in apache: Remove comments from /etc/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf and restart apache. Done! Your project should now be available at http://localhost/svn/myproject All users should now have full access (read and write) to the repository. It's possible to set up finer-grained permissions in SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess. --------------000509040901020406040906-- From elliot@rpath.com Wed Jan 11 13:11:19 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0BIBJhH028522 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:11:19 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0BIB8fU002733; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from enki.rdu.rpath.com (enki.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.81]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0BIB7VK003138; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:11:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Improved subversion recipe From: Elliot Peele To: Geir Thomassen In-Reply-To: <43BF086C.30000@in.fer.no> References: <43BDDB00.3080104@in.fer.no> <20060106203314.GA911@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> <43BF086C.30000@in.fer.no> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-46TLjveEGtEuOykGrmhs" Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:10:46 -0500 Message-Id: <1137003046.7512.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:11:19 -0000 --=-46TLjveEGtEuOykGrmhs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks good to me. Elliot On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 01:16 +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:50:40AM +0100, Geir Thomassen wrote: > >=20 > >>* Removed the Berkeley DB backend. The fsfs backend have been the=20 > >>default for some time now, and the bdb backend have been error prone.=20 > >=20 > > While I think that the bdb backend was a spectacularly bad idea, I'm > > also concerned that removing it will make some people's existing > > repos inaccessible. Is this fair? > > >=20 > OK, I have put it back. >=20 > >=20 > >>* Added a small README with basic instructions for setting up a reposit= ory. > >=20 > >=20 > > %(thisdocdir)s is the best place for it -- probably as something like > > README.setup > >=20 >=20 > Moved to %(thisdocdir)s/README.quickstart >=20 >=20 > I have removed the .conf suffix from /etc/subversion/(users|useraccess),=20 > since the other default config files in that directory don't have them.=20 > (eg. /etc/subversion/servers). >=20 >=20 > TODO: > * Fix perl bindings > * remove the clutter in %(thisdocdir)s >=20 > As soon as Elliot have checked these patches, I will commit. >=20 > Geir > plain text document attachment (subversion.recipe) > # > # Copyright (c) 2004-2005 rPath, Inc. > # This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. > # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html > # >=20 > # Get python version from this label > loadInstalled('python.recipe') >=20 > class Subversion(AutoPackageRecipe): > name =3D 'subversion' > version =3D '1.2.3' >=20 > buildRequires =3D [ 'autoconf:runtime', 'libtool:runtime', 'python:de= vel', > 'python:runtime', 'db:devel', 'apr:devel', > 'apr-util:devel', 'neon:devel', 'httpd:devel', > 'swig:runtime', 'which:runtime', 'krb5:devellib', > 'expat:devel', 'libxml2:devel', 'zlib:devel', > 'gettext:runtime', 'krb5:devel', 'httpd:runtime', > 'e2fsprogs:devel', 'openldap:devel', 'perl:runtime'= , > 'openssl:devel'] >=20 > if Use.builddocs: > buildRequires.extend(['texinfo:runtime', 'docbook-xsl:data']) >=20 > def unpack(r): > r.disableParallelMake() >=20 > # svnparentpath is the directory containing the repositories >=20 > r.macros.svnparentpath =3D '%(servicedir)s/subversion' >=20 > # Should 'svnconfdir' be equal to 'svnparentpath' instead of > # /etc/subversion? The directory does not contain any configs fo= r > # subversion per se, it contains the configs for the repositories > # living in 'svnparentpath'. It makes sense for installations wit= h > # multiple 'svnparentpath' configuration. >=20 > r.macros.svnconfdir =3D '%(sysconfdir)s/subversion' >=20 > r.macros.pydir =3D Python.sitepkgs > r.macros.swigdirs =3D "swig_pydir=3D%(pydir)s/libsvn swig_pydir_e= xtra=3D%(pydir)s/svn" >=20 > r.addArchive('http://subversion.tigris.org/tarballs/subversion-%(= version)s.tar.bz2', keyid=3D'641E358B') > r.addSource('subversion.conf', dest=3D'%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.= d/subversion.conf') > r.addSource('useraccess', dest=3D'%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess') > r.addSource('README.quickstart', dest=3D'%(thisdocdir)s/README.qu= ickstart') >=20 > r.Replace(('SVN_PARENT_PATH','%(svnparentpath)s'),('SVN_CONF_DIR'= ,'%(svnconfdir)s'), > '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', > '%(svnconfdir)s/useraccess', > '%(thisdocdir)s/README.quickstart') >=20 > r.addSource('users', contents=3D'', dest=3D'%(svnconfdir)s/users'= ) >=20 > def configure(r): > r.Configure('--with-neon=3D%(prefix)s ' > '--with-apr=3D%(prefix)s ' > '--with-apr-util=3D%(prefix)s ' > '--disable-mod-activation') >=20 > def makeinstall(r): > r.MakeInstall() > r.Make('swig-py %(swigdirs)s') > r.Make('install-swig-py %(swigdirs)s', preMake=3D'DESTDIR=3D%(des= tdir)s') > r.MakeDirs('%(svnparentpath)s') >=20 > def policy(r): > r.PackageSpec('mod_dav_svn', > '%(sysconfdir)s/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf', > '%(libdir)s/httpd/', > '%(svnconfdir)s/') > r.ComponentSpec('python', '%(libdir)s/libsvn_swig_py.*', '%(pydir= )s/') >=20 > r.ExcludeDirectories(exceptions=3D'%(svnparentpath)s') > plain text document attachment (subversion.conf) > #LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so > #LoadModule authz_svn_module modules/mod_authz_svn.so >=20 > # > # Example configuration to enable HTTP access for all Subversion > # repositories in "SVN_PARENT_PATH". These repositories must be > # readable and writable by the 'apache' user. > #=20 >=20 > # > # DAV svn > # SVNParentPath SVN_PARENT_PATH > # > # # only authenticated users may access the repository > # Require valid-user > # > # # how to authenticate a user > # AuthType Basic > # AuthName "Subversion repository" > # AuthUserFile SVN_CONF_DIR/users > # > # # our access control policy > # AuthzSVNAccessFile SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess > # > # # Require SSL connection for password protection. > # # SSLRequireSSL > # > plain text document attachment (useraccess) > # > # SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess. Subversion user authorization > # >=20 > # > # Grant all users in SVN_CONF_DIR/users full access (read > # and write) to all repositories. > # >=20 >=20 > [/] > * =3D rw > plain text document attachment (README.quickstart) > Setting up Subversion with http access >=20 > 1. Create the repository: >=20 > svnadmin create SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject > chown --recursive apache.apache SVN_PARENT_PATH/myproject >=20 > All repositories created in SVN_PARENT_PATH will be accessible > trough http. >=20 > 2. Add users: >=20 > htpasswd SVN_CONF_DIR/users jane >=20 > 3. Enable subversion support in apache: >=20 > Remove comments from /etc/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf and restart apa= che. >=20 >=20 > Done! Your project should now be available at http://localhost/svn/myproj= ect >=20 >=20 > All users should now have full access (read and write) to the repository.= It's > possible to set up finer-grained permissions in SVN_CONF_DIR/useraccess. --=20 Elliot Peele rPath, Inc. elliot@rpath.com 919.851.3984 2117 --=-46TLjveEGtEuOykGrmhs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUAQ8VKJvMmuLzCtMBeAQIGjggAgXR5Poqng8WR6zlJIjBzo9nkmxlpcsJh tvEok7rGim1/2tCciOtyLQQPbz6jti2nwEkxlAOja93MSAD2G+WEwpQf2Q/8YaAl yLRKf8Vls9S4sDzbp6FMj+/N+8E0Pt2Yr2nNWz/BKCq9KmgrJleRN3TdKbhJBPih S5rOrNkVJ4DYQ1jCEVltLl5cAQMBsWT4NPj3UBLOLfcfePLgfEY5POp2CEc1GFp/ EawiJWQLnkS++TG/1f1GqykMphaeznbsHEIupZS0vhAqzl2ODW65CXGIZuai49hZ Y7ShwqOVcl2DWiqJOrQu77EbhpIM4K6+GiQFf3WBQf8DIPzrlsFWVg== =5cs3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-46TLjveEGtEuOykGrmhs-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 2 18:34:26 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k12NYQD1025676 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:34:26 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k12NYJCU025101 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k12NYHDX003083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:34:18 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k12NYHbp003082 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:34:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:34:17 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.99.4 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060202233416.GA26850@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-URL: http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2006/02/02/rpath_linux_0_99_4_beta_available_x86_an_64 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:34:27 -0000 rPath Linux 0.99.4 is now available for download. It contains Conary 0.94, and OpenOffice.org 2.0.1 in order to support OpenDocument format. Many packages were rebuilt to use automatic perl and python dependencies. Unfortunately, moving to the new OpenOffice required us to provide three ISO images instead of two. As we approach the end of our Beta testing, we would like to encourage the most extensive testing you are willing to do. Please report bugs that you find at http://bugs.rpath.com/ or on irc.freenode.net #conary. Ongoing information on our release shows up on our wiki in real time: http://wiki.conary.com/rPathLinux In particular, we have: * Three ISO images because of new libraries for OpenOffice.org. * Conary 0.94, with pluggable policy (in the new conary-policy package). * OpenOffice.org 2.0.1 (we now use the Ximian patch set; which allows it to save files properly). - Added packages required by the way we use the ximian patch set, which allows us to choose system libraries instead of libraries included with OpenOffice.org: o agg: Anti-Grain Geometry; a C++ 2D graphics library o icu: library for unicode and internationalization support. o boost: large, commonly-used set of generic C++ libraries o unixODBC: implementation of the ODBC standard for uniform data access API * Linux kernel 2.6.15.2 * Many packages rebuilt to add Perl and Python dependencies * glibc updated from 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 to include timezone support for the United States for 2006 and properly installed documentation * samba configured with --with-ldapsam, which allows samba to authenticate from an LDAP repository directly. * postgresql 8.1.2, to fix to fix a remote denial of service vulnerability documented in CVE-2006-0105 * MySQL 5.0.18, for fixes related to being a Conary repository backend. * moved caching-nameserver from /var to /srv to comply with the FHS. /etc/named.conf was also changed to reflect this move. The bind package was unchanged. * smartmontools will now start. bz#534 * subversion has python support added, non-functional perl support removed, default config added (thanks to Geir Thomassen). * thunderbird updated to 1.5 to track future security updates. * kid updated for fixes required by latest conary repository. * postfix requirement on mailbase fixed. * ppp rebuilt with /var/log/ppp/connect-errors so that it works bz#537 * acpid fixed to require psmisc for killall bz#533 * libgnomeui fixed to remove broken overrides on componentization for libraries bz#531 * vim rebuilt to not highlight deprecated syntax in Conary recipe files. * xorg-x11 has xfs initscript moved to xorg-x11-xfs bz#530 * xorg-x11, pcmcia-cs, microcode_ctl, gnopernicus, glibc, squirrelmail, sendmail, minicom, lockdev, sysvinit, lockdev rebuilt with deprecated recipe elements removed. * ncurses has symlinks added for additional places that some programs look for curses headers, and widec (wide character) headers moved, and now correctly has development binaries in :devel instead of :runtime * ntp rebuilt with more documentation bz#512 * setup has correct (minimal) initial contents for /etc/passwd and /etc/group, fixing a bug in 0.99.3 installs where some groups were not added for some installs, bz#571. It also does not include /etc/aliases, which belongs in mailbase. * setup now marks /etc/printcap as InitialContents to avoid update errors * MySQL-python moved from contrib to os for new MySQL database backend support for Conary (not included in distribution media) * info-emerge added for new emerge user (used for privilege limitation while using conary emerge) * gtk is now multilib-capable bz#616 * system-config-network no longer damages /etc/modprobe.conf bz#615 * mailman now logs to /var/log/mailman; previous builds defaulted to logging to /var/mailman/log which did not exist bz#544 * pygtk rebuilt with correct build requirements to fix missing files bz#567 * python-setuptools added to enable the PythonSetup() build action in Conary. * fontconfig has an additional requirement to make its tag handler work (this is mainly to make derived distributions work) bz#535 * procmail has permissions and ownership fixed * filesystem package has permissions and ownership fixed on /srv/spool/mail * MAKEDEV has /dev/console added bz#525 * dhcp includes /var/lib/dhcp bz#574 * kdelibs includes security patch for a buffer overflow security vulnerability documented in CVE-2006-0019. * kbd no longer creates errors when logging into a physical console as non-root bz#490 * PyGreSQL updated to upstream version 3.7 * nfs-utils now contains /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery bz#489 * hotplug now shares a firmware directory with udev: %(essentiallibdir)s/firmware (/lib/firmware or /lib64/firmware) * debugging threaded processes works for glibc without glibc:debuginfo installed bz#514 * gnome-menus python bindings make their return Download this release from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.99.4/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews Thank you for your interest in rPath Linux! From chaos@in.fer.no Sat Feb 4 21:21:51 2006 Received: from mail.fjordmedia.com (cC3013249.inet.catch.no [195.1.50.73]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k152LoeV008365 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 21:21:51 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.35] (cD9088FE3.sdsl.catch.no [217.8.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fjordmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7561A940D8 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 03:21:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43E56135.4060806@in.fer.no> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:21:41 +0100 From: Geir Thomassen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: dovecot config is missing pop3_uidl_format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 02:21:51 -0000 The default config in dovecot is missing the pop3_uidl_format parameter. This stops dovecot from running with the default config. Explanation: pop3_uidl_format defines how dovecot calculates a uniqe ID for each message for POP3 (not IMAP). Dovecot used to have the UIDL algorithm hardcoded as "%v.%u", but the developers discovered that this causes trouble with some Outlook versions. So they invented the pop3_uidl_format parameter, and plan to set it to "%08Xu%08Xv" as default in a future version, but right now it is undefined. This means that all current users of dovecot have set this parameter manually in the config file. Changing this on an existing installation will cause trouble for users which leaves mail on the server (they will receive a second copy of all the mails on the server). I think we should set this parameter as soon as possible, while we still are in beta. Geir From johnsonm@rpath.com Sat Feb 4 22:19:47 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k153Jljv008461 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:19:47 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k153Jdtd000171 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k153Jc0a008201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:19:38 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k153JcJw008200 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:19:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:19:38 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 0.99.5 (Beta) available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060205031938.GA7003@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20060202233416.GA26850@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060202233416.GA26850@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-URL: http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2006/02/04/rpath_linux_0_99_5_beta_available_x86_an_64 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:19:48 -0000 Hard on the heels of rPath Linux 0.99.4 comes an update that includes primarily security updates; new firefox, mozilla, and poppler have several security vulnerabilities addressed. As we approach the end of our Beta testing, we would like to encourage the most extensive testing you are willing to do. Please report bugs that you find at http://bugs.rpath.com/ or on irc.freenode.net #conary. Ongoing information on our release shows up on our wiki in real time: http://wiki.conary.com/rPathLinux Note in particular that we are planning another update for next week, in order to incorporate and better test the updates we do in response to your bug reports. o Conary 0.96 o conary-policy 0.90.2 o firefox 1.5.0.1, latest upstream version for security enhancements o mozilla updated with patches for vulnerabilities: CVE-2005-4134 - long history DoS; CVE-2006-0292 - Javascript unrooted; CVE-2006-0296 - XULDocument.persist o poppler updated to 0.4.4, latest upstream version, to fix JPEG decoding vulnerabilities described in CVE-2005-3624, CVE-2005-3625, and CVE-2005-3627. o system-tools-backends now has support for rPath Linux and derived distros. o MAKEDEV has more group dependencies added bz#670 o The kernel has been rebuilt with no changes to the binaries that are produced, but using a recipe that is much easier to shadow and modify, especially meant for rBuilder Online users who need to provide a patched or otherwise custom kernel image. Download this release from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/beta/0.99.5/ or from mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Updates will be provided at http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Feb 15 17:33:13 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1FMXDUt019246 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:33:13 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1FMX0Z4001796 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1FMWxDb021295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:33:00 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1FMWxou021294 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:32:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:32:59 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060215223259.GA19232@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:33:13 -0000 rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online (http://www.rpath.com/). Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.15.3 Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.1 - Linux kernel 2.6.15.3 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-os" command will update all the software on your system that is part of rPath Linux. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label are part of the rPath Linux operating system. The repository is the canonical definition of the operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel" items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit http://bugs.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. Technical information about Conary and rPath Linux is kept at http://wiki.conary.com/ Source Code The source code for each package can be accessed via Conary's "cvc" command. More information on the cvc command is available in the cvc man page. Creating Software Appliances Visit rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/ to create software appliances and purpose-built distributions based on rPath Linux. Contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com for information on deploying rBuilder at your site. Known Limitations Text-mode HTTP installs do not work, and reiserfs installation does not work correctly except when installed on LVM volumes. Availability CD and DVD ISO images are available for download. You can download this release from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0/, from rBuilder Online's rPath Linux project page, or from FTP mirrors as they update; see http://wiki.conary.com/MirrorSites Copyright 2006 rPath, Inc. rPath, rPath Linux, Conary, and rBuilder are trademarks of rPath, Inc. From int@mtx.ru Wed Feb 22 17:51:37 2006 Received: from mail.mtx.ru (mt.matrixtelecom.net [81.95.129.186]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1MMpa3a018090 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:51:36 -0500 Received: from ppp83-237-29-43.pppoe.mtu-net.ru ([83.237.29.43] helo=[192.168.3.3]) by mail.mtx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) id 1FC2pM-0006zm-Tt for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:51:20 +0300 Message-ID: <43FCEAE9.7090303@mtx.ru> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:51:21 +0300 From: Pavel Volkovitskiy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Use.gnome in gnomepackagerecipe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:51:37 -0000 Hello! I looked in gnomepackagerecipe and it seems it doesn't need gnome flag at all. Let me explain: All other flags are used to make several package variants, with and without something But "gnome" flag in that recipe is used only to mark packages with it. It says "hey, it's a gnome package". ok, maybe it's nice sometimes, but it gives troubles more often. For example: I don't like gnome, so i set "!gnome" for my system. And now i can't install: atk, audiofile, libIDL, libart_lgpl, libglade, libsigc++, pango... but all that packages doesn't use gnome libs at all and their "gnome" and "!gnome" variants are equal so, i can't use gnome flag in it "right" way: to not install packages "with" gnome support, like firefox[gnome] Another important thing is that all flags are used in one way and only "gnome" flag in gnomepackagerecipe is used in anoter. I'm sure it's a bug I suggest to remove that flag from recipe -- Pavel From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Feb 22 21:28:23 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2SLUm018700 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:28:23 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2RulD003990 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2Rugq005933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:27:56 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1N2RtfU005932 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:27:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:27:55 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Use.gnome in gnomepackagerecipe Message-ID: <20060223022755.GA5351@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <43FCEAE9.7090303@mtx.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43FCEAE9.7090303@mtx.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:28:23 -0000 On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:51:21AM +0300, Pavel Volkovitskiy wrote: > I looked in gnomepackagerecipe and it seems it doesn't need gnome flag > at all. I'm inclined to agree with Pavel on this one. I'd like to hear differing opinions if there are any. From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Feb 22 21:36:09 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2a8bX018738 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:36:08 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2ZqhV004190 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1N2Zqr6008683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:35:52 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1N2ZqU9008682 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:35:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:35:52 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux Update Advisories Message-ID: <20060223023552.GA6346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:36:45 -0500 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:36:09 -0000 rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, will soon be published on mailing lists. * To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce * To recieve both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. Mail to both of those lists will be copied to this list for a short while as a transitional measure. Responses to mail on both those lists will be directed to this list for discussion. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 13:47:03 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIkwgQ021712; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:47:03 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIkgfs020462; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIkg7S023958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:46:42 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NIkg2t023934; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:46:42 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231846.k1NIkg2t023934@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:46:42 -0500 To: security-announce@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPSA-2006-0001-1 postgresql User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:47:03 -0000 rPath Security Advisory: 2006-0001-1 Published: 2006-02-14 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Severe Exposure Level Classification: Local System User Deterministic Privilege Escalation Updated Versions: postgresql=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/8.1.3-1 References: http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.476 Description: PostgreSQL minor version 8.1.3 has been released, containing a patch for a serious security issue present in the 8.1 branch. All users of 8.1 are urged to upgrade at the earliest opportunity. The security issue in 8.1.x allows an authenticated database user to escalate his ROLE privileges by exploiting knowledge of the backend protocol. While there are no known exploits in the wild for this, users are urged not to wait until they encounter one. 8.1.3 also contains a number of other bug fixes, most of them for very specific (rare) database configurations and schema issues, but including a number of crash fixes. Notable also is a fix to the TSearch2 GiST index generation code which will significantly speed up creation of TSearch2 indexes. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 13:57:34 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIvTMs021797; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIvC9s007994; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIvCs3027519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:57:12 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NIvC01027517; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:57:12 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231857.k1NIvC01027517@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:57:12 -0500 To: security-announce@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPSA-2006-0002-1 gnupg User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:57:34 -0000 rPath Security Advisory: 2006-0002-1 Published: 2006-02-15 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Exposure Level Classification: Local Non-deterministic Weakness Updated Versions: gnupg=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.4.2.1-1-0.1 References: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-0455 http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2006q1/000211.html Description: The Gentoo project identified a security related bug in GnuPG. When using any current version of GnuPG for unattended signature verification (e.g. by scripts and mail programs), false positive signature verification of detached signatures may occur. This problem affects the tool *gpgv*, as well as using "gpg --verify" to imitate gpgv, if only the exit code of the process is used to decide whether a detached signature is valid. This is a plausible mode of operation for gpgv. If, as suggested, the --status-fd generated output is used to decide whether a signature is valid, no problem exists. In particular applications making use of the GPGME library[2] are not affected. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 13:59:46 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIxjbG021825; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:59:45 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIxUoh010665; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NIxTQI027920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:59:29 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NIxTlm027916; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:59:29 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231859.k1NIxTlm027916@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:59:29 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0004-1 conary conary-build conary-repository User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:59:46 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0004-1 Published: 2006-02-17 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Informational Updated Versions: conary=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.2-1-0.1 conary-build=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.2-1-0.1 conary-repository=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.2-1-0.1 References: http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2006/02/21/conary_1_0_2_released Description: Conary 1.0.2 is a maintenance release. o A bug that caused redirects to fail to build when multiple flavors of a trove exist has been fixed. o A bug with cooking flavored redirects has been fixed. o The cvc cook command no longer enforces managed policy with --prep. o A bug that caused disttools-based python packages to be built as .egg files has been fixed. This bug was introduced in Conary 0.94. o A bug that prevented checking in a recipe that deleted policy has been fixed. o A bug that prevented entitlements from being recognized by an Apache conary repository server when no username and password were set for a server has been fixed. o A bug that prevented errors from being returned to the client if it attempts to add an invalid entitlement key or has insufficient permission to add the entitlement key has been fixed. An InvalidEntitlement exception has been added. o A repository bug that prevented the mirror client from obtaining a full list of new troves available for mirorring has been fixed. o A bug in cooking groups that caused the groups resulting from an r.addAll() to not respect the original group's byDefault settings in some cases has been fixed. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 14:01:01 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ0xSJ021856; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:01 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ0dxM019590; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ0dF2029041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:00:39 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NJ0dtm029039; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:00:39 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231900.k1NJ0dtm029039@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:00:39 -0500 To: security-announce@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPSA-2006-0003-1 httpd mod_ssl User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:01:02 -0000 rPath Security Advisory: 2006-0003-1 Published: 2006-02-21 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Major Exposure Level Classification: Remote System User Deterministic Vulnerability Updated Versions: httpd=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/2.0.55-10-0.1 mod_ssl=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/2.0.55-10-0.1 References: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2005-3352 http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2005-3357 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37874 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37791 Description: mod_ssl in Apache 2.0 up to 2.0.55, when configured with an SSL vhost with access control and a custom error 400 error page, allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (application crash) via a non-SSL request to an SSL port, which triggers a NULL pointer dereference. A flaw in the imagemap processing module, mod_imap, in versions of Apache httpd 1.3, 2.0 and 2.2 can in some circumstances cause the referer header to be output without being escaped in HTML. This could allow an attacker who is able to influence the referer header the ability to do cross-site scripting attacks against sites using mod_imap in a vulnerable configuration. This flaw only affects sites using mod_imap with a map file that contains the "referer" directive. In order to exploit this flaw the attacker would need to control the referer header and therefore would need to entice a victim to visit a URL under the attackers control. A sucessful cross-site scripting attack using this flaw would be limited to certain browsers. Firefox and Mozilla browsers for example already escape suspect characters in a URL which blocks this from being exploited. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 14:01:49 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ1nWv021893; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:49 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ1X1G020413; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ1WtU029441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:33 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NJ1WvW029439; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:32 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231901.k1NJ1WvW029439@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:01:32 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0005-1 perl-Net-DNS perl-Net-IP User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:01:49 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0005-1 Published: 2006-02-22 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Updated Versions: perl-Net-DNS=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/0.52-4-0.1 perl-Net-IP=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.24-1-0.1 Description: The perl-Net-DNS package was missing the perl: Net::IP requirement, and there was no perl-Net-IP package in rPath Linux. The perl-Net-IP package has been added, and perl-Net-DNS has been rebuilt to add the missing dependency. This is known to affect systems that use the spamassassin package and are configured to use the URIDNSBL plugin, and is expected to affect any other uses of perl-Net-DNS. The perl-Net-IP package has been added to group-devel, along with all other perl-* packages. From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Feb 23 14:02:52 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ2qs7021917; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:02:52 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ2aRR015034; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1NJ2ZSH029986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:02:36 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1NJ2ZrG029984; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:02:35 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602231902.k1NJ2ZrG029984@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:02:35 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0006-1 conary conary-build conary-repository User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:02:53 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0006-1 Published: 2006-02-22 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Updated Versions: conary=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.3-1-0.1 conary-build=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.3-1-0.1 conary-repository=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.3-1-0.1 Description: Conary 1.0.3 is a maintenance release. Client changes: o Conary displays full paths in the error message it generates when it can't open a log file, rather than leaving out the root directory. Performance improvements: o A find() class method has been added to StreamSet which enables member lookups without complete thawing. o The code path for committing filestreams to repositories now uses find() to minimize file stream thaws. o DBstore now supports precompiled SQL statements for SQLite. o Retrieving troves from the local system database no longer returns file information when file information is not requested. o Dependencies, dependency sets, StreamCollections, file dictionaries, and referenced file lists now use C parsing code for stream thawing. o Extraneous trove instantiations on the system update path have been eliminated. o Adding troves to the local database now uses temporary tables to batch the insertions. Bugfixes: o A bug that caused a mismatch between file objects and fileIds when cloning a trove has been fixed. From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Feb 27 23:18:33 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4IXJp009488; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:33 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4IDLY010340; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4ICHd024582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:13 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1S4IC7H024580; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:12 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602280418.k1S4IC7H024580@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:12 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0007-1 firstboot gtk User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 04:18:34 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0007-1 Published: 2006-02-27 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Updated Versions: firstboot=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.3.42-6.1-1 gtk=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/2.8.6-9.5-1 References: http://bugs.rpath.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816 http://bugs.rpath.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817 Description: rPUA 2006-0007 most significantly affects software appliances built from rPath Linux, and contains two separately updated packages. The firstboot program used to rely on a symbolic link created by the Anaconda installer, but which does not exist on images created by rBuilder Online because it is obsolete. This bug is fixed in the new version of firstboot. This fix will not affect running systems on which firstboot has already been run, and will not affect any systems installed from CD images or otherwise with the Anaconda installer. When GTK+ libraries in the gtk:lib component are installed only because of library dependency resolution, they did not also include the gtk:runtime component that provides the tag handlers which set up image loaders and input methods. The new version of the gtk package has the requirement for gtk:runtime added, and any affected system will have functioning GTK+ libraries after updating the gtk package to this new version. From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Feb 27 23:19:05 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4J5SG009510; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:19:05 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4IlW2010762; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1S4IlKo024875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:47 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1S4IkDb024873; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:46 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602280418.k1S4IkDb024873@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:18:46 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0008-1 postfix User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 04:19:05 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0008-1 Published: 2006-02-27 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Updated Versions: postfix=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/2.2.7-2.1-1 References: http://bugs.rpath.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812 Description: Minimal installations of rPath Linux, as well as software appliances built from rPath Linux with rBuilder Online, could fail to install the "nobody" system user before installing the postfix Mail Transport Agent, which causes postfix to fail to run. Updating to the new version of postfix will require the "nobody" user to be installed, and after the info-nobody package has been installed, postfix will run successfully. Additionally, the postfix package did not explicitly provide the /usr/sbin/sendmail and /usr/bin/newaliases files, inhibiting it from satisfying requirements of other packages that it was capable of interacting with through those standard interfaces. This prevented using postfix to create certain software appliances using rBuilder Online. This bug has been resolved. From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Feb 28 08:04:14 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1SD4E4w011199; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:04:14 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1SD3uNQ011551; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1SD3tlq022535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:03:55 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1SD3tYr022533; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:03:55 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" Message-Id: <200602281303.k1SD3tYr022533@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:03:55 -0500 To: update-announce@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPUA-2006-0009-1 conary conary-build conary-repository User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:04:14 -0000 rPath Update Advisory: 2006-0009-1 Published: 2006-02-28 Products: rPath Linux 1 Rating: Minor Updated Versions: conary=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.4-1.0.1 conary-build=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.4-1-0.1 conary-repository=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.4-1-0.1 Description: Conary 1.0.4 is a maintenance release. Performance improvements: o The speed of erasing troves with many dependencies has been significantly improved. o The join order of tables is forced through the use of STRAIGHT_JOIN in TroveStore.iterTroves() to work around some MySQL optimizer shortcomings. o An --analyze command line option has been added to the stand-alone server (server.py) to re-ANALYZE the SQL tables for MySQL and SQLite. This can significantly improve repository performance in some cases. o The changes made to dependency string parsing were a loss in some cases due to inefficiency in PyArg_ParseTuple(). Performance sensitive paths in misc.c now parse the arguments directly. Bugfixes: o An Apache-based conary repository server no longer logs tracebacks in error_log when a client disconnects before all data is sent. o A bug that caused cross-repository commits of changesets that involved a branched trove to fail in some cases has been fixed. o If an entitlement is used for repository access, it is now sent over HTTPS instead of HTTP by default. o The conary emerge command no longer attempts to write to the root user's conary log file. o The conary showcs --all command now shows not-by-default troves. o Previously, there was no way using showcs to display only the troves actually in a changeset--conary would by default access the repository to fill in any missing troves. Now, you must specify the --recurse-repository option to cause conary to search the repository for missing troves. The --trove-flags option will now display when a trove is missing in a changeset. o A bug that caused conary showcs --all to display file lists even when --ls was not specified has been fixed. o When mirroring, you are now allowed to commit a trove that does not have a SHA1 checksum set. This is an accurate replication of the data coming from the source repository. o A bug affecting multiple uses of r.replace() in a group recipe has been fixed. o A bug that caused components not to be erased when their packages were erased when a group referencing those packages was installed has been fixed. From jtate@rpath.com Thu Mar 2 08:13:47 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k22DDlJK015068 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:13:47 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k22DDSei016741 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k22DDSDX016590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4406EFCC.4060403@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:14:52 -0500 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: qt dependencies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:13:47 -0000 Just so that they are archived somewhere, here are the packages/components that have runtime dependencies on QT. Many of the items on the list are merely dependent on arts, but since arts needs qt... kdebase:data kdebase:lib kdelibs:data kdelibs:lib kdeartwork kdeadmin k3b kdemultimedia:lib kdewebdev:runtime kdepim:lib kdenetwork:runtime kdesdk:runtime kdeedu:lib kdetoys:runtime kdegraphics:runtime kdeutils:runtime kdenetwork:lib kdegames:lib kdepim:runtime kdeaccessibility:runtime kdemultimedia:runtime openoffice.org:kde libidn:lib taglib:lib arts:lib sip:python unixODBC:runtime PyQt-x11-gpl:python doxygen:runtime oprofile:runtime qscintilla:lib wine gst-plugins:data gst-plugins:lib From int@mtx.ru Fri Mar 3 04:08:54 2006 Received: from mail.mtx.ru (mt.matrixtelecom.net [81.95.129.186]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2398rAr018575 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 04:08:53 -0500 Received: from int.matrixtelecom.net ([81.95.128.179]) by mail.mtx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) id 1FF6H3-0001KG-NI for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:08:34 +0300 Message-ID: <44080791.8090806@mtx.ru> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:08:33 +0300 From: Pavel Volkovitskiy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: arts=1.5.0-4 References: <200603030629.k236TdIR015941@conary-commits.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200603030629.k236TdIR015941@conary-commits.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:08:54 -0000 Apache wrote: > ================================ > arts:source=1.5.0-4 (previous: 1.5.0-3) > cvc rdiff arts -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/1.5.0-4 > ================================ > 1.5.0-4 Justin M. Forbes (http://bugs.rpath.com/) Fri Mar 3 01:29:34 2006 > Add qt:runtime for moc > It's much better to move moc to :devel and also: qmake, lupdate, uic, lrelease, qm2ts, msg2qm -- Pavel From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Mar 3 10:11:16 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FBGiB019691 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:11:16 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FAvKJ015612 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FAvoc026979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:10:57 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k23FAvkL026975 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:10:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:10:57 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: arts=1.5.0-4 Message-ID: <20060303151057.GA26492@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <200603030629.k236TdIR015941@conary-commits.rpath.com> <44080791.8090806@mtx.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44080791.8090806@mtx.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:11:17 -0000 On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:08:33PM +0300, Pavel Volkovitskiy wrote: > It's much better to move moc to :devel > and also: qmake, lupdate, uic, lrelease, qm2ts, msg2qm Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Mar 3 10:14:19 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FEIHi019703 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FE0Oq019250 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k23FDxSn027206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:13:59 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k23FDxrO027205 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:13:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:13:59 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux Update Advisories Message-ID: <20060303151359.GB26492@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20060223023552.GA6346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060223023552.GA6346@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:14:19 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:35:52PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Mail to both of those lists will be copied to this list for a > short while as a transitional measure. I am turning off this extra copy now. Future advisory announcements will go only to the advisory lists. The reply-to setting for the advisory lists will continue to be set to point to this list for the forseeable future. From int@mtx.ru Thu Mar 9 12:26:42 2006 Received: from mail.mtx.ru (mt.matrixtelecom.net [81.95.129.186]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29HQf5c015874 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:26:42 -0500 Received: from int.matrixtelecom.net ([81.95.128.179]) by mail.mtx.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) id 1FHOu4-0004lo-Vz for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:26:21 +0300 Message-ID: <4410653C.3010408@mtx.ru> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:26:20 +0300 From: Pavel Volkovitskiy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: kdepackage=3.5.1-1 References: <200603071623.k27GNA1u006850@conary-commits.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200603071623.k27GNA1u006850@conary-commits.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:26:42 -0000 Apache wrote: > ================================ > kdepackage:source=3.5.1-1 (previous: 3.5.0-9) > cvc rdiff kdepackage -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.5.1-1 > ================================ > 3.5.1-1 Justin M. Forbes (http://bugs.rpath.com/) Tue Mar 7 11:23:04 2006 > Update for 3.5.1 and kde package collapse So, rPath linux will use non-splitted kde packages, won't it? -- Pavel From smithj@rpath.com Thu Mar 9 13:41:43 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29IfhGS016092 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:41:43 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29IfMhh006245 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.0.11] (166-82-100-27.quickclick.ctc.net [166.82.100.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29IfL2h018153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: <441076D0.2070002@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:41:20 -0500 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: kdepackage=3.5.1-1 References: <200603071623.k27GNA1u006850@conary-commits.rpath.com> <4410653C.3010408@mtx.ru> In-Reply-To: <4410653C.3010408@mtx.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:41:43 -0000 Pavel Volkovitskiy wrote: > Apache wrote: >> ================================ >> kdepackage:source=3.5.1-1 (previous: 3.5.0-9) >> cvc rdiff kdepackage -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/3.5.1-1 >> ================================ >> 3.5.1-1 Justin M. Forbes (http://bugs.rpath.com/) Tue Mar 7 11:23:04 2006 >> Update for 3.5.1 and kde package collapse > > So, rPath linux will use non-splitted kde packages, won't it? > For now. We are trying to get :devel built as quickly as possible (its been far too long) and then we'll go about breaking it again. We know the non-split up works, so it'll be easier to build for now. -smithj From jtate@rpath.com Thu Mar 9 15:29:07 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29KT7vq016437 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:29:07 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29KSi8U014445 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.58.74] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k29KSiEX020282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: <44109054.2050005@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:30:12 -0500 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: kdepackage=3.5.1-1 References: <200603071623.k27GNA1u006850@conary-commits.rpath.com> <4410653C.3010408@mtx.ru> In-Reply-To: <4410653C.3010408@mtx.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:29:07 -0000 Pavel Volkovitskiy wrote: > So, rPath linux will use non-splitted kde packages, won't it? > > we still plan on having split kde packages, but currently do not have the resources to maintain the 200+ recipes. We attempted to build the split KDE and were not getting anywhere. From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Mar 28 13:59:25 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k2SIxPEw018635; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:59:25 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2SIwo71005726; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k2SIwnvF004033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:58:50 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k2SIwnem004032; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:58:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:58:49 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.1 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060328185849.GA20556@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20060215223259.GA19232@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060215223259.GA19232@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:59:25 -0000 >From time to time, rPath will release refreshed ISO images of rPath Linux. Refreshed ISO images, release 1.0.1, have been made available for new installations of rPath Linux 1. These images include all updates through and including updates released on 23 March 2006. If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system rather than reinstall using the new images. The new images are available from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0.1/ and http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/ rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.1 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online (http://www.rpath.com/). Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.15.6 Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.9 - Linux kernel 2.6.15.6 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-os" command will update all the software on your system that is part of rPath Linux. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label are part of the rPath Linux operating system. The repository is the canonical definition of the operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel" items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit http://bugs.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. Technical information about Conary and rPath Linux is kept at http://wiki.conary.com/ Source Code The source code for each package can be accessed via Conary's "cvc" command. More information on the cvc command is available in the cvc man page. Creating Software Appliances Visit rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/ to create software appliances and purpose-built distributions based on rPath Linux. Contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com for information on deploying rBuilder at your site. Copyright 2006 rPath, Inc. rPath, rPath Linux, Conary, and rBuilder are trademarks of rPath, Inc. From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue May 2 10:24:52 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k42EOqeF005874 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 10:24:52 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k42EOBas024348 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 10:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k42EOAKH004932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 10:24:10 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k42EOAkU004930 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 2 May 2006 10:24:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:24:10 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: upcoming migrating to kernel 2.6.16.x Message-ID: <20060502142410.GA1419@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 14:24:53 -0000 rPath Linux 1 will be migrating to the 2.6.16.x kernels shortly, as part of our policy of maintaining our source code in line with upstream sources, now that upstream maintenance of the 2.6.15.x kernels has halted. Until we release the first 2.6.16.x kernel for rPath Linux 1, we will continue to provide any necessary security updates to our 2.6.15.x kernels in rPath Linux 1. We will be releasing new installable images (1.0.2) shortly after we make this change. Any users who wish to test this 2.6.16.x kernel series on their systems may run the command: conary update kernel=:devel Please report any issues using our bug tracking system at http://bugs.rpath.com/ Thank you! From tell@telltronics.org Sun May 7 02:14:15 2006 Received: from ariel.telltronics.org (gateway.telltronics.org [66.93.240.80]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k476EEmA028211 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 02:14:15 -0400 Received: from ariel.telltronics.org (ariel.telltronics.org [127.0.0.1]) by ariel.telltronics.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k476DWqi001134 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 02:13:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (tell@localhost) by ariel.telltronics.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k476DVFk001131 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 02:13:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ariel.telltronics.org: tell owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 02:13:31 -0400 (EDT) From: steve tell To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: 1.0.1 http install failing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 06:14:15 -0000 Does http install work with rpath linux 1.0.1? I downloaded the dvd image of rpath 1.0.1 (this one, I believe http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/downloadImage/2830/rpath-1.0.1-i386-disc1.iso) then realized that my test machine didn't have a dvd reader only a CDROM. I made a CD from images/boot.iso, booted from that, and copied the contents of the dvd to a directory visible to my private web server. I get to anaconda stage 2, so I know networking is working and it finds the http server. I get the error "Unable to read header list. this may be due to a missing file or bad media" In the web server logs I see: 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:29:28 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/updates.img HTTP/1.0" 404 313 "-" "-" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:29:28 -0400] "GET /rpath/disc1/rPath/base/updates.img HTTP/1.0" 404 319 "-" "-" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:29:28 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/product.img HTTP/1.0" 200 4096 "-" "-" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:29:28 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/netstg2.img HTTP/1.0" 200 24715264 "-" "-" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:34:56 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/sqldb HTTP/1.1" 200 12858368 "-" "urlgrabber/2.9.6" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:34:58 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/cslist HTTP/1.1" 200 74437 "-" "urlgrabber/2.9.6" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:35:14 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/sqldb HTTP/1.1" 200 12858368 "-" "urlgrabber/2.9.6" 192.168.0.126 - - [07/May/2006:01:35:16 -0400] "GET /rpath/rPath/base/cslist HTTP/1.1" 200 74437 "-" "urlgrabber/2.9.6" And in tty3, preceded by what appears to be a python error backtrace: InvalidBackend: Could not locate driver for backend 'sqlite' args: (('No module named sqlite_drv', 'sqlite')) Is there any hope for making http install work here? thanks, Steve From smithj@rpath.com Sun May 7 05:38:48 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k479cloU030394 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 05:38:47 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k479c2qr021754 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 05:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.7.59.156] (Sull-03-156.rh.ncsu.edu [152.7.59.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k479c2v7032604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 05:38:02 -0400 Message-ID: <445DBFF9.7050604@rpath.com> Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 05:38:01 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: 1.0.1 http install failing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 09:38:48 -0000 steve tell wrote: > Does http install work with rpath linux 1.0.1? Text-mode http installs are known to be broken with that anaconda release. 1.0 is impacted by the same limitation, and potentially previous versions as well. You might try the graphical install method, or use kickstart. FTP installs work for the graphical install, and nfs works for text and graphical, if you need a workaround. Of course physical media works for text as well. Hope this helps. -smithj From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri May 12 11:02:55 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4CF2t8B022323; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:55 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4CF233d025059; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4CF22Mu025481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:02 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k4CF22wH025480; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:02 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.2 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060512150202.GA22973@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:02:56 -0000 rPath releases refreshed ISO images of rPath Linux from time to time. Refreshed ISO images, release 1.0.2, have been made available for new installations of rPath Linux 1. These images include all updates through and including updates released on 8 May 2006. If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. The new images are available from ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0.2/ and http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/ rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.2 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online (http://www.rpath.com/). Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.16.14 Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.14 - Linux kernel 2.6.16.14 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-os" command will update all the software on your system that is part of rPath Linux. rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published on mailing lists: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label are part of the rPath Linux operating system. 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From smithj@rpath.com Thu May 18 17:29:46 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4ILTkgZ024661 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 17:29:46 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4ILSwq2026566 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 17:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4ILSwZF012973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 17:28:58 -0400 Message-ID: <446CE71A.5080802@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:28:58 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: making srpm use easier in a recipe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090208000003030303010105" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:29:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090208000003030303010105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote this superclass to simplify all the recipes which implement (in different ways) using an srpm as either the upstream tarball or the patchset, or even both. This superclass greatly simplifies maintenance on such packages. Take, as an example, the initscripts package, who's diff is also attached to this email (:devel). -smithj --------------090208000003030303010105 Content-Type: text/plain; name="rpmpackage.recipe" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rpmpackage.recipe" # # Copyright (c) 2006 rPath, Inc. # This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html # import errno from conary.lib import log from conary.build import source class RPMPackageRecipe(CPackageRecipe): name = 'rpmpackage' version = '1' extraConfig = '' preConfigure = '' preMake = '' preMakeInstall = '' makeArgs = '' makeInstallArgs = '' # set these if the package is not the normal Fedora srpm url externalArchive = '' distroVersion = '' rpmRelease = '' isRHEL = False rpmPatches = [] # defaults if not distroVersion: if isRHEL: distroVersion = '4' else: distroVersion = 'development' if not rpmRelease: rpmRelease = '1' def setup(r): r.unpack() r.patch() r.configure() r.make() r.makeinstall() r.policy() def unpack(r): r.macros.distroVersion = r.distroVersion r.macros.rpmRelease = r.rpmRelease if r.isRHEL: srpm = 'ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/%(distroVersion)s/en/os/i386/SRPMS/%(name)s-%(version)s-%(rpmRelease)s.src.rpm' else: srpm = 'http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/%(distroVersion)s/SRPMS/%(name)s-%(version)s-%(rpmRelease)s.src.rpm' if r.externalArchive: r.addArchive(r.externalArchive) else: r.AddArchiveFromSRPM('%(name)s-%(version)s', rpm=srpm) for patch in r.rpmPatches: r.addPatch(patch, rpm=srpm) def patch(r): # only include patches here which *aren't* from the rpm pass def configure(r): r.Configure(r.extraConfig, preConfigure=r.preConfigure) def make(r): r.Make(r.makeArgs, preMake=r.preMake) def makeinstall(r): r.MakeInstall(r.makeInstallArgs, preMake=r.preMakeInstall) def policy(r): pass def AddArchiveFromSRPM(r, *args, **keywords): r.extraSource(ArchiveFromSRPM(r, *args, **keywords)) class ArchiveFromSRPM(source.Archive): def _extractFromRPM(self): sourcename = self.sourcename extensions = ['tar.bz2', 'tgz', 'tar.gz', 'tar', 'zip', 'tbz2', 'Z'] if [ x for x in extensions if sourcename.endswith(x) ]: log.info('sourcename ends in a known extension') source._Source._extractFromRPM(self) return log.info('searching through srpm to find source') for extension in extensions: self.sourcename = '%s.%s' % (sourcename, extension) try: log.info("trying %s" % self.sourcename) source._Source._extractFromRPM(self) return except IOError: pass raise IOError, (errno.ENOENT, os.strerror(errno.ENOENT), sourcename) --------------090208000003030303010105 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="initscripts-with-rpmsuperclass.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="initscripts-with-rpmsuperclass.patch" (working version) Thu May 18 17:27:35 2006 (no log message) initscripts.recipe: changed Index: initscripts.recipe ==================================================================== contents(size sha1) inode(mtime) --- initscripts.recipe /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel/8.33_1-2 +++ initscripts.recipe @NEW@ @@ -4,21 +4,15 @@ # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html # -class Initscripts(CPackageRecipe): +loadSuperClass('rpmpackage.recipe') +class Initscripts(RPMPackageRecipe): name = 'initscripts' - version = '8.33_1' + version = '8.33' buildRequires = [ 'glib:devel', 'popt:devel', 'gettext:runtime', 'pkgconfig:devel', 'kudzu:devel', 'pciutils:devel' ] - def setup(r): - r.macros.upver = r.macros.version.replace('_', '-') - r.macros.upmajver = r.version.split('_', 1)[0] - srpm = 'http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/initscripts-%(upver)s.src.rpm' - - r.addArchive('initscripts-%(upmajver)s.tar.bz2', rpm=srpm) - r.addPatch('initscripts-s390.patch', rpm=srpm, use=Arch.s390) - + def patch(r): r.addPatch('initscripts-custom-distro-name.patch') r.addPatch('fastboot.patch', backup='.fast') r.addSource('rplCopyDirs') @@ -35,16 +29,16 @@ r.Replace('-fPIE', '', 'src/Makefile') r.Replace('-pie', '', 'src/Makefile') - r.Make() + def configure(r): + pass # no configure script + + def makeinstall(r): r.MakeInstall('SUPERUSER=$(id -un) SUPERGROUP=$(id -gn)' ' mandir=%(mandir)s', rootVar='ROOT') - if not Arch.s390: - r.Remove('%(sysconfdir)s/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-{ctc,escon,iucv}') - else: - r.Remove('%(sysconfdir)s/sysconfig/init.s390') - r.Remove('%(sysconfdir)s/rc.d/rc.sysinit.s390init') - + def policy(r): + r.Remove('%(sysconfdir)s/sysconfig/init.s390') + r.Remove('%(sysconfdir)s/rc.d/rc.sysinit.s390init') # we use separate build trees rather than trying to unify them r.Remove('%(essentialsbindir)s/mkkerneldoth') --------------090208000003030303010105-- From smithj@rpath.com Fri May 19 11:06:52 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4JF6qkM029018 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:06:52 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4JF64sa012162 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4JF64ig014720 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:06:04 -0400 Message-ID: <446DDEDC.9050208@rpath.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:06:04 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: making srpm use easier in a recipe (again) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030800040206090006070200" X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:06:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030800040206090006070200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So last night when trying to port a bunch of things to the previous version of the RPMPackageRecipe, I realized that reimplementing AutoPackageRecipe in the superclass was a bad idea. So, I modified the superclass so it can be used by itself (as a subclass of PackageRecipe) or with multiple inheritance. This works *much* better, and the recipes are cleaner. Comments? -smithj --------------030800040206090006070200 Content-Type: text/plain; name="rpmpackage.recipe" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rpmpackage.recipe" # # Copyright (c) 2006 rPath, Inc. # This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License. # A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html # import errno from conary.lib import log from conary.build import source # if you need the CPackage build reqs, please inherit from both # RPMPackageRecipe and CPackageRecipe; do the same for AutoPackageRecipe # be sure to put the RPMPackageRecipe before C or Auto. if you would normally # inherit from only PackageRecipe, you should only inherit from # RPMPackageRecipe and simply call r.unpack() in setup class RPMPackageRecipe(PackageRecipe): name = 'rpmpackage' version = '1' # set these in the recipe if the package is not the normal Fedora srpm url externalArchive = '' distroVersion = 'development' rpmRelease = '1' isRHEL = False rpmPatches = [] rhel_url = 'ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/%(distroVersion)s/en/os/i386/SRPMS/%(name)s-%(version)s-%(rpmRelease)s.src.rpm' fedora_url = 'http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/%(distroVersion)s/SRPMS/%(name)s-%(version)s-%(rpmRelease)s.src.rpm' def __init__(self, cfg, laReposCache, srcdirs, extraMacros={}, crossCompile=None, lightInstance=False): PackageRecipe.__init__(self, cfg, laReposCache, srcdirs, extraMacros={}, crossCompile=None, lightInstance=False) self.macros.externalArchive = self.externalArchive self.macros.rpmRelease = self.rpmRelease self.macros.distroVersion = self.distroVersion if self.isRHEL: if self.macros.distroVersion == 'development': self.macros.distroVersion = '4' self.srpm = self.rhel_url else: self.macros.distroVersion = self.distroVersion self.srpm = self.fedora_url def unpack(r): if r.externalArchive: r.addArchive(r.externalArchive) else: r.AddArchiveFromSRPM('%(name)s-%(version)s', rpm=r.srpm) for patch in r.rpmPatches: r.addPatch(patch, rpm=r.srpm) def AddArchiveFromSRPM(r, *args, **keywords): r.extraSource(ArchiveFromSRPM(r, *args, **keywords)) class ArchiveFromSRPM(source.Archive): def _extractFromRPM(self): sourcename = self.sourcename extensions = ['tar.bz2', 'tgz', 'tar.gz', 'tar', 'zip', 'tbz2', 'Z'] if [ x for x in extensions if sourcename.endswith(x) ]: log.info('sourcename ends in a known extension') source._Source._extractFromRPM(self) return log.info('searching through srpm to find source') for extension in extensions: self.sourcename = '%s.%s' % (sourcename, extension) try: log.info("trying %s" % self.sourcename) source._Source._extractFromRPM(self) return except IOError: pass raise IOError, (errno.ENOENT, os.strerror(errno.ENOENT), sourcename) --------------030800040206090006070200-- From msw@rpath.com Wed May 31 15:39:07 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4VJd7J4007471 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 15:39:07 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4VJcDA2005789 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 15:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4VJcDiG012026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 15:38:13 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k4VJcD4G012025 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 31 May 2006 15:38:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:38:13 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Introducing rMake Message-ID: <20060531193813.GO7075@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:39:07 -0000 We've quietly been working on a new project at rPath: rMake. rMake is a new tool for building software using Conary in a simple, controlled way. Before rMake, you had to install the right software on your system in order to use "cvc cook" to build a package. With rMake, a fresh clean build chroot is created automatically with everything a package needs to build--and only those items. We have released an initial ALPHA version of rMake. It's still under heavy development, so expect frequent releases with big changes. To install rMake, you must be root. First, make sure to install Conary 1.0.16. Then install the info-rmake, info-rmake-chroot, and rmake packages by running: conary update rmake --resolve --install-label conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel There are currently two major components to rMake: the rMake Server and the rMake command line. The rMake Server runs as a daemon on your system. It accepts rMake build jobs, creates build environments, performs builds, and so on. The rMake command line controls the server. Use it to create new build jobs, view a list of jobs, view status and logs, and commit the resulting builds back to a Conary repository. To start the rMake server, run /sbin/service rmake start as root. To find out more about how rMake works, run man rmake and man rmakeserver. If you are running rPath Linux, Foresight Linux, or another distribution that uses group-dist as the name of the group that defines the release, you should be able to build packages immediately. If you are running a distribution that does not use group-dist to name that group, you may have to edit the /etc/rmake/clientrc file and set the resolveTroves parameter. For example, if group-appliance is the group that defines a release of your system, then add this line to /etc/rmake/clientrc: resolveTroves group-appliance. There's some information about rMake in the Conary Wiki here: http://wiki.conary.com/AboutrMake For more help, please see us on #conary on freenode! -- Matt Wilson rPath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From elliot@rpath.com Tue Jun 20 18:12:25 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5KMCPTc009476 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:12:25 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5KMBPLs023849; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enki.rdu.rpath.com (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k5KMBNuV000618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:11:23 -0400 Subject: Sun JRE/JDK Packages Available From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:11:05 -0400 Message-Id: <1150841465.4358.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:12:26 -0000 As a convenience to the rPath Linux community, rPath has packaged the Sun Java JDK and JRE for use with rPath Linux and distributions derived from it. NOTE: These packages contain software developed by Sun Microsystems, and are not part of rPath Linux proper. Therefore, rPath cannot provide source-level support; should issues arise, refer to Sun's Java resource sites for help: http://java.com/ http://java.sun.com/ Installing the Sun Java JRE --------------------------- To install the JRE, issue the following command as root: # conary update sun-jre Installing the Sun Java JDK --------------------------- Because GCC includes Java-related support, the potential exists for conflicts between the GCC and JDK documentation. To minimize the chance for conflicts, make sure your system has the latest version of GCC installed: # conary update gcc Next, issue the following command to determine whether you have GCC's Java-specific packages (called gcc-java) installed: # conary query gcc-java If this command returns the message: gcc-java was not found No conflict exists between the GCC and Java documentation. Therefore, install the JDK by issuing the following command as root: # conary update sun-jdk --resolve However, if your system has gcc-java installed, a conflict exists between the gcc-java:doc and the sun-jdk:doc components, and must be resolved in one of two ways: 1. By removing the gcc-java:doc component and then installing sun-jdk: # conary erase gcc-java:doc # conary update sun-jdk --resolve 2. By installing sun-jdk, but excluding the sun-jdk:doc component: # conary update sun-jdk --resolve --exclude-troves sun-jdk:doc The JDK/JRE installation process is also available as an rPath Linux FAQ on the rPath Wiki: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_FAQs#java_support For more help, see How to Communicate with rPath on the rPath Wiki: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/How_to_Communicate_with_rPath -- Elliot Peele elliot@rpath.com 919.851.3984 2117 From elliot@rpath.com Wed Jun 21 15:42:23 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5LJgM0w015152 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:42:23 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5LJfMTu003681 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enki.rdu.rpath.com (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k5LJfMrs004065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:41:22 -0400 Subject: rPath Linux: Live Images Beta From: Elliot Peele To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:41:03 -0400 Message-Id: <1150918864.4244.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:42:23 -0000 The rPath Linux Project has created live images of rPath Linux. These images are available in three formats: * Live CD ISO - minimal GNOME rescue environment * Raw HDD image - text based development platform * VMware X86 image - minimal GNOME environment NOTE: The available image versions referenced by this announcement are considered beta-quality. Download Images --------------- The images can be downloaded via FTP from the following locations: Live CD image: ftp://download.rpath.com/pub/rpath/linux/beta/1.0.2/rpath-1.0.2-livecd-x86.iso Raw HDD image: ftp://download.rpath.com/pub/rpath/linux/beta/1.0.2/rpath-1.0.2-rawhd-x86.img.gz VMware image: ftp://download.rpath.com/pub/rpath/linux/beta/1.0.2/rpath-1.0.2-x86.vmware.zip Using the Images with Virtual Machines -------------------------------------- You may wish to evaluate and test these images using a virtualization technology instead of physical hardware. Documentation for using these images with such tools as QEMU and VMware Player is available on the rPath Wiki: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Using_rBuilder_Images_with_Virtual_Machines Additional documentation is available: * QEMU: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html * VMware Player: http://www.vmware.com/pdf/VMwarePlayerManual10.pdf For more help, see How to Communicate with rPath on the rPath Wiki: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/How_to_Communicate_with_rPath -- Elliot Peele elliot@rpath.com 919.851.3984 2117 From rafiu@openfiler.com Sat Jul 1 05:02:53 2006 Received: from lemur.xinit.com (lemur.xinit.com [213.165.237.131]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6192qB6007282 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 05:02:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.23] ([84.12.112.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by lemur.xinit.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6191hj1024967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:01:44 +0100 Message-ID: <44A639F7.20202@openfiler.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:01:43 +0100 From: Rafiu Fakunle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rpath appliance agent Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on lemur.xinit.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.5 (2005-11-28) on lemur.xinit.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 09:02:53 -0000 Hi, There's references to rpath appliance agent in the wiki but I can't seem to find the code anywhere. Is it available to download somewhere? TIA R. -- KR Rafiu Fakunle Openfiler Project From jtate@rpath.com Sat Jul 1 23:26:10 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k623QAMn010979 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 23:26:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [24.172.59.42]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k623P5Rv001872 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 23:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.2.2.252] (cpe-071-065-248-229.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.248.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k623P5Fx001612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 23:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <44A73CB0.2000603@rpath.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 23:25:36 -0400 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060602) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rpath appliance agent References: <44A639F7.20202@openfiler.com> In-Reply-To: <44A639F7.20202@openfiler.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:26:10 -0000 Rafiu Fakunle wrote: > Hi, > > There's references to rpath appliance agent in the wiki but I can't seem > to find the code anywhere. Is it available to download somewhere? > > TIA > > R. > Not currently. The rPath Appliance Agent is available to rPath customers through our beta program however. -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ +1-919-851-3984 x2106 From rafiu@openfiler.com Sun Jul 2 04:13:52 2006 Received: from lemur.xinit.com (lemur.xinit.com [213.165.237.131]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k628DpNd012037 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 04:13:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.23] ([84.12.112.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by lemur.xinit.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k628Cf64003596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 09:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: <44A77FF9.7000700@openfiler.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 09:12:41 +0100 From: Rafiu Fakunle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rpath appliance agent References: <44A639F7.20202@openfiler.com> <44A73CB0.2000603@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <44A73CB0.2000603@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on lemur.xinit.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.5 (2005-11-28) on lemur.xinit.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 08:13:52 -0000 Joseph Tate wrote: > Rafiu Fakunle wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There's references to rpath appliance agent in the wiki but I can't seem >> to find the code anywhere. Is it available to download somewhere? >> >> TIA >> >> R. >> > Not currently. The rPath Appliance Agent is available to rPath > customers through our beta program however. > OK, so it's a proprietary tool. Is it possible to see a demo or at least some documentation? Thx. R. > -- KR Rafiu Fakunle Openfiler Project From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Jul 17 16:13:04 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6HKD4qQ005950; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:13:04 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6HKBrXJ016992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:11:53 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k6HKBrs6016991; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:11:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:11:52 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.3 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20060717201152.GA10716@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:13:04 -0000 rPath Linux, the first Linux distribution built using the groundbreaking Conary software management system, has released updated images for rPath Linux 1. The new images incorporate installation changes, new kernels, and all package updates released as of July 12. If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. In this update, additional image types are now available for use with VMWare, QEMU, and other emulation technologies. A "live" or "demo" CD image is included as well. Where can I get it? =================== The new images are available via FTP from: ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0.3/ and via HTTP from: x86 CD http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4464 x86 DVD http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4462 x86_64 CD http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4465 x86_64 DVD http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4462 x86 VMware text development image http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4468 x86 VMware graphical demonstration image and live/demo CD image http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4469 x86 QEMU (or other raw hard drive image) text development image http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=4467 What is rPath Linux? ==================== rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/. rPath Linux is also a fully functioning Linux distribution in its own right. Installing rPath Linux is the easiest way to get familiar with using Conary to manage software and systems. rPath offers formal support to customers who use rPath Linux to build software appliances. How do I get involved? ====================== E-Mail: o rPath invites anyone interested in rPath Linux and Conary to join the distro-list@lists.rpath.com mailing list. The list carries announcements, discussion, and informal support. Chat: o rPath Linux developers and community contributors often use the #conary IRC channel on irc.freenode.org for real-time communication. Bug Reports and Feature Requests: o You can create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. rPath Linux 1 Release Notes =========================== Release 1.0.3 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using the rBuilder Online tool at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.16.24 Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.22 - Linux kernel 2.6.16.24 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-dist" command will update all the software on your system that was (or could have been) installed from the distribution media. rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published on mailing lists: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label and contained directly or indirectly in the group-os groups are part of the rPath Linux operating system. Software packages that are on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label but not contained in group-os are provided by rPath, Inc. as software compatible with rPath Linux but are not supported as part of the rPath Linux operating system. The group-os group in the repository is the canonical definition of the supported operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel" items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit https://issues.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. Technical information about Conary and rPath Linux is kept at http://wiki.rpath.com/ Source Code The source code for each package can be accessed via Conary's "cvc" command. More information on the cvc command is available in the cvc man page. Creating Software Appliances Visit rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ to create software appliances and purpose-built distributions based on rPath Linux. Contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com for information on deploying rBuilder at your site. Copyright 2006 rPath, Inc. rPath, rPath Linux, Conary, and rBuilder are trademarks of rPath, Inc. From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Jul 19 09:07:30 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6JD7UkA016419 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:07:30 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6JD6JHm028375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:06:19 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k6JD6JL4028374 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:06:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:06:19 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rpath appliance agent Message-ID: <20060719130619.GA21973@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <44A639F7.20202@openfiler.com> <44A73CB0.2000603@rpath.com> <44A77FF9.7000700@openfiler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44A77FF9.7000700@openfiler.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:07:30 -0000 On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 09:12:41AM +0100, Rafiu Fakunle wrote: > Is it possible to see a demo or at least some documentation? I'm sorry, I missed this question when it was originally asked. I believe you've already received the answer in another context, but to record the answer for anyone following this list or its archives, I'll mention that the User Interface Guide for rPath Appliance Agent has been posted to http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Appliance_Agent From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Aug 25 15:47:34 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7PJlX8T018924 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:47:33 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7PJk7NX016002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:46:07 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k7PJk7wL015998 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:46:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:46:07 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: upcoming migration to kernel 2.6.17.x Message-ID: <20060825194607.GA7764@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:47:34 -0000 rPath Linux 1 will be migrating to the 2.6.17.x kernels shortly, as part of our policy of maintaining our source code in line with upstream sources. Until we release the first 2.6.17.x kernel for rPath Linux 1, we will continue to provide any necessary security updates to our 2.6.16.x kernels in rPath Linux 1. Any users who wish to test this 2.6.17.x kernel series on their systems may run the command: conary update kernel=kernelbits.rpath.org@rpl:1 --keep-existing Please report any issues using our bug tracking system at https://issues.rpath.com/ Thank you! From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Aug 31 15:12:10 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7VJCADq019352 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:12:10 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7VJAftH007146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:10:41 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k7VJAfZ3007145 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:10:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:10:41 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: upcoming migration to kernel 2.6.17.x Message-ID: <20060831191041.GA29513@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20060825194607.GA7764@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060825194607.GA7764@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:12:10 -0000 On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 03:46:07PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > rPath Linux 1 will be migrating to the 2.6.17.x kernels shortly, as > part of our policy of maintaining our source code in line with > upstream sources. Until we release the first 2.6.17.x kernel > for rPath Linux 1, we will continue to provide any necessary > security updates to our 2.6.16.x kernels in rPath Linux 1. rPath Linux 1 will migrate to the 2.6.17.11 kernel today. From smithj@rpath.com Sat Sep 30 21:53:46 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k911rkI9014950 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:53:46 -0400 Received: from [172.17.194.151] (70-228-185-194.ded.ameritech.net [70.228.185.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k911q4tu028620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:52:06 -0400 Message-ID: <451F1F44.6020907@rpath.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:52:04 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rpl:2 changes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:53:46 -0000 I just wanted to let everyone know that for rpl:2, we have recently included a few changes. First, we will be shipping glibc-2.5, not 2.4. 2.5 is not out yet, but the hope is that a final release will be out in time. We are also shipping 2.17.50.0.5 (or higher) to obtain the --hash-style linker flag introduced in 2.17.50.3. This, along with a newer libc, will allow us to benifit from the new GNU hashing style, which is reported to be 50% faster for dynamically linked libraries. In addition, we are turning on linker optimization (-O1), which should provide speed benefit as well. For up-to-date info on what we're doing and changing for rpl:2, watch http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:r_Path_Linux_2 and https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-598 -smithj From smithj@rpath.com Mon Oct 2 10:55:20 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k92EtKep025892 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:55:20 -0400 Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k92ErdBv015520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:53:39 -0400 Message-ID: <452127F2.6070100@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:53:38 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rpl:2 changes errata Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:55:20 -0000 In my last email, I mentioned we were using "2.17.50.0.5 (or higher)" without saying what that refered to. That version string was referring to binutils. I'll try to keep the errors to a minimal next time :) Since I'm already emailing, I might as well include an update. glibc-2.5 is out (even if not announced yet by upstream), merged into :devel, and a rebuild is in progress. I'll fix whatever needs to be fixed, and hopefully get another full tree commit soon. -smithj From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Oct 5 15:36:29 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k95JaT85012697 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:36:29 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k95JYl9V029687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:34:47 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k95JYlKQ029686 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:34:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:34:47 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.4 coming Message-ID: <20061005193446.GA29206@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:36:29 -0000 Now that the large OpenOffice.org security update has been shipped, we are planning an rPath Linux 1.0.4 incremental update release in a few weeks. If you would like to know the things that we're paying particularly close attention to fixing for rPath Linux 1.0.4, you can look at https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL and click on the link for version "rPath Linux 1 - 1.0.4". While that's not a guarantee that each item will be fixed, at least most of those items are likely to be addressed. From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Oct 6 12:50:34 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k96GoYLq019135 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:50:34 -0400 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k96Gmq39014109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:48:52 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k96GmpvA014108 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:48:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:48:51 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2 Alpha: Development snapshot 20060928-4-9 Message-ID: <20061006164851.GA26308@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:50:34 -0000 The first development snapshot in the rPath Linux 2 Alpha release process have been made available. If you are not yet familiar with rPath Linux or the Conary technology, we recommend that you use our supported and maintained rPath Linux 1 product to become familiar with both technologies before experiencing this alpha development snapshot. rPath Linux 1 information is available at http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:r_Path_Linux_1 Please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:r_Path_Linux_2 for a description of the release process and technology targets for rPath Linux 2. To download any of the images, please visit: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpl-devel/release?id=5094 There are many known issues in this snapshot. Some of them are linked to from https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-598 In general, you can view the rPath Linux 2 and rPath Linux Development versions from https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL to see what issues exist. o We strongly encourage you to file issues in Jira by visiting https://issues.rpath.com/ -- but please search first to see if the issue has already been reported. o Please do not build packages in contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel using these development snapshots. o Absolutely do not use these images for any productions uses. We will be making major organizational changes. Updates may not work cleanly. Expect to re-install rather than update from time to time. Some tag scripts may not function. o Please note the tar archive release. It's an excellent way to test this snapshot without doing a full installation. Unpack the tarball into a subdirectory, then make a more functional /dev available by running the command, as root: # mount -obind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev Then you can work in the environment with the command: # chroot /path/to/chroot Within that chroot, you should run the command: # mount /proc o If you do a system installation, you will have to configure xorg by hand (in other words, make a copy of an existing working xorg.conf file before installing!) The system-config-* programs currently do not work: https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-678 o Particularly visible among the known bugs are that firefox does not work https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-687 and that the system does not shut down cleanly because the pidof program is not in sync with initscripts https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-693 o This snapshot is built with xorg 6.9, but xorg 7.1 is coming soon. When it comes, all the X tools will be included with the rest of the system tools rather than living in their own subdirectory tree. We would like to encourage testers to join the #conary channel on irc.freenode.net to discuss this testing. Additionally, posts to distro-list@lists.rpath.com are welcome. Thanks for your interest in rPath Linux! From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Oct 31 17:29:51 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9VMToOI006441; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:29:50 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9VMRuno000771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:27:56 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id k9VMRteQ000769; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:27:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:27:54 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.4 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20061031222753.GA651@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:29:51 -0000 rPath Linux, the first Linux distribution built using the groundbreaking Conary software management system, has released updated images for rPath Linux 1. The new images incorporate installation changes, new kernels, and all package updates released as of October 27. New in rPath Linux 1.0.4 is support for the Xen 3.0.3 hypervisor, including Xen installation media. For information on Xen technology and rPath Linux, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Xen_Solutions_Using_rPath_Technologies If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. For information on managing Conary-based systems, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary:QuickReference Where can I get it? =================== The new images are available via HTTP from: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=5141 and via FTP from: ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0.4/ What is rPath Linux? ==================== rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/. rPath Linux is also a fully functioning Linux distribution in its own right. Installing rPath Linux is the easiest way to get familiar with using Conary to manage software and systems. rPath offers formal support to customers who use rPath Linux to build software appliances. How do I get involved? ====================== E-Mail: o rPath invites anyone interested in rPath Linux and Conary to join the distro-list@lists.rpath.com mailing list. The list carries announcements, discussion, and informal support. Chat: o rPath Linux developers and community contributors often use the #conary IRC channel on irc.freenode.org for real-time communication. Bug Reports and Feature Requests: o You can create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.4 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using the rBuilder Online tool at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.17.14. For Xen domU (guest system) images, Xen 3.0.3 dom0 (hypervisor domain) platforms, such as the rPath Linux 1.0.4 dom0 implementation. Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.37 - Linux kernel 2.6.17.14 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 - Xen 3.0.3 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-dist" command will update all the software on your system that was (or could have been) installed from the distribution media. rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published on mailing lists: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label and contained directly or indirectly in the group-os groups are part of the rPath Linux operating system. Software packages that are on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label but not contained in group-os are provided by rPath, Inc. as software compatible with rPath Linux but are not supported as part of the rPath Linux operating system. The group-os group in the repository is the canonical definition of the supported operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel" items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit https://issues.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. Technical information about Conary and rPath Linux is kept at http://wiki.rpath.com/ Source Code The source code for each package can be accessed via Conary's "cvc" command. More information on the cvc command is available in the cvc man page. Creating Software Appliances Visit rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ to create software appliances and purpose-built distributions based on rPath Linux. Contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com for information on deploying rBuilder at your site. Copyright 2006 rPath, Inc. rPath, rPath Linux, Conary, and rBuilder are trademarks of rPath, Inc. Xen is a trademark of XenSource, Inc. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. From smitna@gmail.com Tue Nov 14 00:19:44 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAE5JiB1025536 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:19:44 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s15so1298313wxc for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:17:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MhG8Cu7yn128DUJXAs9DWRtHHOMBr6VGplPG1/FGt61eQnFarBqqt7hlkKgSJVrz7GjpkRO7ze4ZdjrAgV0XYoFJlsgcA8Li5um3xB0p3vj24sP35gOM0fWnFIW4bnDFUEiperXxdUAafel7gzMWFUUccaC1UUMsfidYakgov8E= Received: by 10.90.79.6 with SMTP id c6mr518999agb.1163481465638; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.66.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:17:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:17:45 -0500 From: "Mike Palandra" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:19:44 -0000 Hello, I've noticed that the "rPath Linux Disc 1" from the "Xen Dom0 server" at < http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/build?id=6647 > does not appear to include lvm. I find this a little odd, since the document < http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Xen_Solutions_Using_rPath_Technologies > refers to this disc for new installations and also recommends the use of lvm. It seems sensible to include lvm in future versions; just a courteous suggestion. I'm sure all the kernel support is there (e.g. I see /dev/mapper). Another similar concern is the apparent mismatch between filesystem choices from the GUI installer and the corresponding tools for managing those filesystems; e.g. both ext3 and reiserfs are supported at install time, and an e2fsprogs changeset is included :), although the equivalent for reiserfs does not seem to be included. Is there a feature to search the mailing lists? Take care. N.B. I am just starting with Conary, so I apologize if I'm mistaken. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 14 10:37:21 2006 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEFbKIt029632 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:37:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0717FA8D for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24790-04 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 670A917FA89; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:35:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:35:19 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc Message-ID: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:37:21 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 12:17:45AM -0500, Mike Palandra wrote: > Hello, > > I've noticed that the "rPath Linux Disc 1" from the > "Xen Dom0 server" at < > appear to include lvm. I find this a little odd, since the document < I thought that this had been fixed long ago, after I first complained about it. Brian From smithj@rpath.com Tue Nov 14 10:42:19 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEFgJSn029672 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:42:19 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kAEFeKjm002746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:40:20 -0500 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:42:20 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 12:17:45AM -0500, Mike Palandra wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've noticed that the "rPath Linux Disc 1" from the >> "Xen Dom0 server" at < >> appear to include lvm. I find this a little odd, since the document < > > > I thought that this had been fixed long ago, after I first complained > about it. It was "fixed" by adding lvm2 to group-base, which GUI installs will install no matter what. However, the dom0 group does not inherit from group-base. -smithj From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 14 11:01:05 2006 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEG15nV029794 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:01:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB3517FA8D for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24902-03-2 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3A0B017FA89; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:59:06 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc Message-ID: <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:01:06 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:40:20AM -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Brian McCullough wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 12:17:45AM -0500, Mike Palandra wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I've noticed that the "rPath Linux Disc 1" from the > >> "Xen Dom0 server" at < > >> appear to include lvm. I find this a little odd, since the document < > > > > > > I thought that this had been fixed long ago, after I first complained > > about it. > > It was "fixed" by adding lvm2 to group-base, which GUI installs will > install no matter what. However, the dom0 group does not inherit from > group-base. Ah, ha! However, Jonathan, the way that I understand his question, which could easily be wrong, is that he tried to install rPath Linux ( including Xen as a Dom0 ??? ) and when he came out of that install he found that he did not have LVM2, which had been part of the install process. It's been too long since I installed from disk, so I could be mis-reading this. Brian From smithj@rpath.com Tue Nov 14 11:21:21 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEGLLTZ029926 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:21:21 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kAEGJL0o018440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:19:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4559EC89.9080400@rpath.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:19:21 -0500 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:21:21 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > he tried to install rPath Linux > ( including Xen as a Dom0 ??? ) and when he came out of that install he > found that he did not have LVM2, which had been part of the install > process. rPath Linux is a somewhat vague term. It refers to anything in group-os. However, there are many subgroups of group-os, and it is from those subgroups that we build media, not group-os itself. The group-dom0 does not inherit from group-base, even though both are part of group-os. -base is a part of group-dist, which defines the install media for "normal" anaconda-based installs (non-xen). group-dom0 is not part of group-dist. Thus, the contents of the media differ significantly by design. Both are still rPath Linux. -smithj From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 14 12:16:51 2006 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEHGoLY030520 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:16:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC23817FA8D for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25521-02-6 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 28ED217FA82; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:51 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc Message-ID: <20061114171451.GA25254@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559EC89.9080400@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4559EC89.9080400@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:16:51 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 11:19:21AM -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Brian McCullough wrote: > > he tried to install rPath Linux > > ( including Xen as a Dom0 ??? ) and when he came out of that install he > > found that he did not have LVM2, which had been part of the install > > process. > > rPath Linux is a somewhat vague term. It refers to anything in group-os. > However, there are many subgroups of group-os, and it is from those > subgroups that we build media, not group-os itself. The group-dom0 does > not inherit from group-base, even though both are part of group-os. > -base is a part of group-dist, which defines the install media for > "normal" anaconda-based installs (non-xen). group-dom0 is not part of > group-dist. Thus, the contents of the media differ significantly by design. OK. However, that perhaps goes back to my original point, several months ago. If a facility is available during installation and is used, such as using LVM to partition the disk space, that facility should be included in the running system. I have been re-reading his original note, and understand more about the install process that he used. I also used that wiki entry when recently updating Xen systems. However, in my situation, I was working from an older rTao system which _did_ install LVM2 in the running system. In any case, do we agree that the wiki is wrong when it recommends the use of LVM, or is the group-dom0-server wrong? B-) From smithj@rpath.com Tue Nov 14 12:28:37 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEHSbqk030689 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:28:37 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.85] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kAEHQcKT019268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4559FC4E.9020907@rpath.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:26:38 -0500 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559EC89.9080400@rpath.com> <20061114171451.GA25254@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20061114171451.GA25254@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:28:38 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote > I have been re-reading his original note, and understand more about the > install process that he used. I also used that wiki entry when > recently updating Xen systems. However, in my situation, I was working > from an older rTao system which _did_ install LVM2 in the running > system. In any case, do we agree that the wiki is wrong when it > recommends the use of LVM, or is the group-dom0-server wrong? rTao was never part of rPath Linux. Anyway, I believe LVM2 should be in the dom0 group, and the instructions are correct. This should be fixed for 1.0.5. Objections? -smithj From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 14 13:11:25 2006 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAEIBP8N031063 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6049217FA97 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01233-02-2 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id C829917FA96; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:09:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:09:25 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc Message-ID: <20061114180925.GA1326@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20061114153519.GA24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559E364.1040902@rpath.com> <20061114155906.GB24824@bdmcc-us.com> <4559EC89.9080400@rpath.com> <20061114171451.GA25254@bdmcc-us.com> <4559FC4E.9020907@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4559FC4E.9020907@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:11:25 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 12:26:38PM -0500, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Brian McCullough wrote > > Anyway, I believe LVM2 should be in the dom0 group, and the instructions > are correct. This should be fixed for 1.0.5. Objections? None at all. That was where I was going, however badly I said so. Thank you, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Nov 14 16:51:24 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAELpNuG032153 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kAELnOBD029738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:49:24 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id kAELnOOR029737 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:49:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:49:24 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: possible omissions from the Xen Dom0 server install disc Message-ID: <20061114214924.GA23572@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:51:24 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 12:17:45AM -0500, Mike Palandra wrote: > of lvm. It seems sensible to include lvm in future versions; just a > courteous suggestion. I'm sure all the kernel support is there (e.g. As you've seen in other responses, yes, we'll do that. > Another similar concern is the apparent mismatch between filesystem > choices from the GUI installer and the corresponding tools for > managing those filesystems; e.g. both ext3 and reiserfs are supported > at install time, and an e2fsprogs changeset is included :), although > the equivalent for reiserfs does not seem to be included. These also need to be added. In the main rPath Linux images, the tools are included on the media but normally installed only if you actually require them for the system. However, on the dom0 images, those tools are not included on the (relatively minimal) media, and we simply didn't notice when we were releasing those images. We noticed the lack late last week in some internal testing, and we'll be adding the related tools in the next set of images. I did not realize until now that we were missing a report of that issue in our issue tracking system. This issue is now recorded as https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-788 We welcome reports of any other issues via our issue tracking system. > Is there a feature to search the mailing lists? A google search with "site:lists.rpath.com" appended works pretty well, and is probably more useful than us running our own search engine. > N.B. I am just starting with Conary, so I apologize if I'm mistaken. Not in the least; good catch! Welcome to the Conary user community! From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Dec 5 16:22:11 2006 Received: from lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kB5LMBjT011601; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:22:11 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by lambchop.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kB5LK2TL004336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:20:02 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB5LK2bp031795; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:20:02 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id kB5LK2AP031794; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:20:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:20:02 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.5 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20061205212002.GA31013@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:22:11 -0000 rPath Linux, the first Linux distribution built using the groundbreaking Conary software management system, has released updated images for rPath Linux 1. The new images incorporate installation fixes for certain installation methods and all package updates released as of November 22. The Xen dom0 images have been enhanced with several additional packages for various filesystems and LVM support. For information on Xen technology and rPath Linux, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Xen_Solutions_Using_rPath_Technologies If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. For information on managing Conary-based systems, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary:QuickReference Where can I get it? =================== The new images are available via HTTP from: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=FIXME and via FTP from: ftp://download.rpath.com/linux/1/1.0.5/ What is rPath Linux? ==================== rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/. rPath Linux is also a fully functioning Linux distribution in its own right. Installing rPath Linux is the easiest way to get familiar with using Conary to manage software and systems. rPath offers formal support to customers who use rPath Linux to build software appliances. How do I get involved? ====================== E-Mail: o rPath invites anyone interested in rPath Linux and Conary to join the distro-list@lists.rpath.com mailing list. The list carries announcements, discussion, and informal support. Chat: o rPath Linux developers and community contributors often use the #conary IRC channel on irc.freenode.org for real-time communication. Bug Reports and Feature Requests: o You can create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.5 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using the rBuilder Online tool at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.17.14. For Xen domU (guest system) images, Xen 3.0.3 dom0 (hypervisor domain) platforms, such as the rPath Linux 1.0.4 dom0 implementation. For Xen dom0 (host system) images, hardware platform supported by Linux kernel 2.6.16.29 with Xen support. Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.0.38 - Linux kernel 2.6.17.14 - Xen 3.0.3 with Linux kernel 2.6.16.29 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-dist" command will update all the software on your system that was (or could have been) installed from the distribution media. rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published on mailing lists: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label and contained directly or indirectly in the group-os groups are part of the rPath Linux operating system. Software packages that are on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label but not contained in group-os are provided by rPath, Inc. as software compatible with rPath Linux but are not supported as part of the rPath Linux operating system. The group-os group in the repository is the canonical definition of the supported operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:devel" items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit https://issues.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. 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From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Jan 24 04:49:46 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0O9njxM000846; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:49:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5820D17ED6E; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23985-02; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6D9F617F9E8; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:46:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:46:54 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: conary-list@lists.rpath.com, distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Using Superclasses Message-ID: <20070124094654.GA23987@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:49:46 -0000 I wasn't sure whether this was a distro-list or a conary-list question. Trying to learn rMake, and would rather not duplicate existing code where I don't need to. I have seen certain recipes, such as ndiswrapper, where the following is used: loadSuperClass('kernelmodulepackage.recipe', label='drivers.rpath.org@rpl:devel') class Ndiswrapper(KernelModulePackageRecipe): If I am trying to do something similar, in fact I would like to use kernelmodulepackage as well. When I use this construct in my own recipe, which is in "orleans.rpath.org", I get told: *** An error has occurred in rmake: *** *** /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages//conary/build/packagerecipe.py:219 *** AttributeError: checkKernelFlavorMismatch instance has no attribute 'fetchLocal' *** *** Receiving this message is always a due to a bug in rmake, not *** user error. Obviously, the last line says that it is not my problem, but I am curious about the reference to "fetchLocal". Is this an indication that I used the loadSuperClass function in the wrong way? Am I able to use "foreign" references, such as this one to drivers.rpath.org, in my own project? Thanks, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Jan 24 10:55:08 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0OFt82j002620; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:55:08 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0OFqeca023958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OFqeKw014311; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:52:40 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l0OFqeav014310; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:52:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:52:40 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: conary-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Using Superclasses Message-ID: <20070124155240.GA14205@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20070124094654.GA23987@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070124094654.GA23987@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, conary-list@rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:55:08 -0000 On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 04:46:54AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I wasn't sure whether this was a distro-list or a conary-list question. As it happens, conary-list, but there's no particular reason for you to have known that. I have redirected followup to conary-list. > /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages//conary/build/packagerecipe.py:219 > *** AttributeError: checkKernelFlavorMismatch instance has no attribute > 'fetchLocal' You are apparently the first person to build a kernelmodulepackage since some recent changes to Conary. I've checked in the fix to the kernelmodulepackage recipe that should resolve this error for you. My fix resolved the error for me in my test. From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Jan 24 16:31:19 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0OLVJT2005077 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:31:19 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0OLSpwL028036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:28:51 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OLSpE8015414; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:28:51 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l0OLSoJZ015413; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:28:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:28:50 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: upcoming migration to kernel 2.6.19.x Message-ID: <20070124212850.GA15375@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:31:19 -0000 rPath Linux 1 will be migrating to the 2.6.19.x kernels shortly, as part of our policy of maintaining our source code in line with upstream sources. We will be releasing new installable images (1.0.6) some time after releasing the new kernels. However, we will have new installer templates before that release is available, so users who build installable ISO images will enable new hardware support when those templates are available. It is possible that our Xen support will be able to migrate to this 2.6.19.x kernel stream, but not guaranteed. Any users who wish to test this 2.6.19.x kernel series on their systems may run the command: conary update kernel=kernelbits.rpath.org@rpl:1 Please note that this option is not available (at least for now) for Xen kernels, and that only SMP kernels are available there. These kernels are test kernels with extra validation (such as lockdep validation) enabled. Please report any issues using our issue tracking system at https://issues.rpath.com/ From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Jan 29 21:57:24 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0U2vNWC016922 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:57:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7476517FC86 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14045-06 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id EF39317FC85; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:54:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:54:34 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rMake cross compiling Message-ID: <20070130025434.GA14196@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:57:24 -0000 I'm confused. I am attempting to create x86 troves on my x86_64 machine, as discussed in the rMake FAQ: Q: How do I use rMake to build x86 troves on an x86_64 system? A: Add this parameter to your command: --flavor 'is:x86(~cmov,~i486,~i586,~i686)' I am working with kernel modules so this becomes very obviously wrong. I can check the rmake/chroot tree during the build, and, using --no-clean, afterward, and find two interesting things. rmake/chroot/lib/modules contains one and only one kernel:build-tree, the x86 one that I want. However, under rmake/chroot/tmp/.../_ROOT_/lib/modules, I find the x86_64 build-tree that belongs with the host machine, and the kernel module compiled in the job. Even though the make is apparently successful in every way, the result is useless. What am I doing wrong? Brian From jtate@rpath.com Tue Jan 30 11:57:03 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0UGv3Rt021272 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:57:03 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.74] (router.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0UGsS1V016131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:54:33 -0500 Message-ID: <45BF7869.2080300@rpath.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:55:05 -0500 From: Joseph Tate User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070102) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rMake cross compiling References: <20070130025434.GA14196@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20070130025434.GA14196@bdmcc-us.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:57:03 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > I'm confused. > > I am attempting to create x86 troves on my x86_64 machine, as discussed > in the rMake FAQ: > > > Q: How do I use rMake to build x86 troves on an x86_64 system? > > A: Add this parameter to your command: --flavor > 'is:x86(~cmov,~i486,~i586,~i686)' > > > I am working with kernel modules so this becomes very obviously wrong. > I can check the rmake/chroot tree during the build, and, using > --no-clean, afterward, and find two interesting things. > rmake/chroot/lib/modules contains one and only one kernel:build-tree, > the x86 one that I want. However, under > rmake/chroot/tmp/.../_ROOT_/lib/modules, I find the x86_64 build-tree > that belongs with the host machine, and the kernel module compiled in > the job. > > Even though the make is apparently successful in every way, the result > is useless. > > For kernel modules or anything that builds against a kernel build tree, you must specify the kver to use: do this on the rMake command line by adding the --macros "kver `uname -r of target kernel`" -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ +1-919-851-3984 x2106 From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jan 30 14:27:36 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0UJRaTN022174 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:27:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC4B17FDBE for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22073-01-3 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 44CFF17FF54; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:50:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:50:56 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rMake cross compiling Message-ID: <20070130185056.GA21654@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20070130025434.GA14196@bdmcc-us.com> <45BF7869.2080300@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45BF7869.2080300@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:27:36 -0000 On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:55:05AM -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > For kernel modules or anything that builds against a kernel build tree, > you must specify the kver to use: do this on the rMake command line by > adding the --macros "kver `uname -r of target kernel`" My memory says that this was also tried ( --macro 'kver xxx' --flavor 'is: ... ) without any more success, but I'll try again. Incidentally, should that be --macro or --macros? Thanks, Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Jan 30 15:57:56 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0UKvuuN022794 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:57:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0774417FCD7 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22696-02 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id A09D217FCC9; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:55:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:55:23 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rMake cross compiling Message-ID: <20070130205523.GA22624@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20070130025434.GA14196@bdmcc-us.com> <45BF7869.2080300@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45BF7869.2080300@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:57:56 -0000 On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:55:05AM -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > For kernel modules or anything that builds against a kernel build tree, > you must specify the kver to use: do this on the rMake command line by > adding the --macros "kver `uname -r of target kernel`" This is very interesting. This time I did: rmake build ndiswrapper.recipe --no-clean --flavor 'is:x86(~cmov,~i486,~i586,~i686)' --macro='kver 2.6.17.14-0.4.x86.i686.cmov' and I got TWO copies of the x86 module. One under .../_ROOT_/lib/modules/2.6.17.14-0.4.x86.i686.cmov, where it should have been, and one under .../_ROOT_/lib/modules/2.6.17.14-0.3.x86_64, which matches the uname of the host machine. Most interesting. I need to do some more research before I ask anything else. Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Feb 7 18:09:55 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l17N9sZ3025264 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:09:54 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l17N7J4N028856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:07:19 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l17N7J5M009469 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:07:19 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l17N7Iix009468 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:07:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:07:18 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2 Alpha 2 Message-ID: <20070207230718.GA9279@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20061006164851.GA26308@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061006164851.GA26308@lambchop.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:09:55 -0000 The second development snapshot in the rPath Linux 2 Alpha release process has been made available. If you are not yet familiar with rPath Linux or the Conary technology, we recommend that you use our supported and maintained rPath Linux 1 product to become familiar with both technologies before experiencing this alpha development snapshot. rPath Linux 1 information is available at http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_1 Most of the software included in the distribution has been updated, and it has been completely rebuilt from source since the first development snapshot. This includes latest X from x.org and latest GNOME. Please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_2 for a description of the release process and technology targets for rPath Linux 2. Two changes since the first alpha development snapshot is that To download any of the images, please visit rBuilder Online: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpl-devel/release?id=5347 There are many known issues in this snapshot. You can view the rPath Linux 2 and rPath Linux Development versions from https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL to see what issues apply. o Absolutely do not use these images for any productions uses. We will be making major organizational changes. Updates may not work cleanly. Expect to re-install rather than update from time to time. Some tag scripts may not function. Do not use it in any case in which prolonged instances of software failure, or destruction or loss of data, will inconvenience you. o We strongly encourage you to file issues in Jira by visiting https://issues.rpath.com/ -- but please search first to see if the issue has already been reported. o Installation on at least some Thinkpad T43 models is known not to function; the hard drive is not found. Please report any other failures, of course. o This is a new version of the anaconda installer; please exercise different code paths and options and report issues. Be aware that installation may require 256MB on x86 and 512MB on x86_64. o Package selection has not yet been implemented in the installer. Installation will require approximately 4GB, and you cannot reduce this by de-selecting packages. o Many of the system-config-* programs currently do not yet work: https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-678 We would like to encourage testers to join the #conary channel on irc.freenode.net to discuss this testing. Additionally, posts to distro-list@lists.rpath.com are welcome. Thanks for your interest in rPath Linux! From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Feb 15 09:40:19 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1FEeI7o022584 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:40:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619AB17FE3D for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15256-02-9 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2751B17FE37; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:37:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:37:36 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Multi-Media and particularly multi-lib Message-ID: <20070215143736.GA15284@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:40:19 -0000 Just so that I don't immediately mess up my installation again, I thought I'd ask here before I jumped in. Two things: 1) I attempted to install the current Linux Real player in my "plain Jane" rPath Linux system, and it complained that it couldn't find libstdc++.so.5. That was absolutely correct, because libstdc++.so.6 is installed. I did find a copy of libstdc++.so.5 in conary.rpath.com@rpl:1-compat, but attempting to install it raises errors about essential troves being removed. What is the best possible method for resolving this, or am I out of luck? 2) Following on from the previous, I would like this system to be able to play the "common" audio and video formats, webcasts, podcasts, radio, whatever, without again, breaking the system. In the past I have attempted to upgrade things like gstreamer and totem using various ( apparently conflicting ) sources within the rBuilder system. Is there a way to do this with within a general-purpose "real" rPath Linux system, or do I need to build a Multi-Media-specific machine from one of the specialized distros? Thanks, Brian From david.coulthart@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 01:01:16 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1G61F2j028235 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:01:15 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c2so1337431nfe for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tRpLTzCOt8UusBnYExJPgys4ZvCB6vYCJeGRHl5h6Ti0iNMHxhpOosGIWUQWDi3q+aQH0xuWXjoehbndB5TuZiho1Fgjq23EAhpUYoCdK3k2FpvUK0d68AAfyxzKnb+zboho2vH770USUQkBiS7d0UPs/65PiIO/m4+hEVJyUFc= Received: by 10.82.134.12 with SMTP id h12mr4115254bud.1171605516372; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.127.6 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c6f91c30702152158m258a739ie91c1d2a9d34b711@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:58:36 -0500 From: "David Coulthart" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Multi-Media and particularly multi-lib In-Reply-To: <20070215143736.GA15284@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070215143736.GA15284@bdmcc-us.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:01:16 -0000 On 2/15/07, Brian McCullough wrote: > Just so that I don't immediately mess up my installation again, I > thought I'd ask here before I jumped in. > > Two things: > > 1) I attempted to install the current Linux Real player in my "plain > Jane" rPath Linux system, and it complained that it couldn't find > libstdc++.so.5. That was absolutely correct, because libstdc++.so.6 is > installed. I did find a copy of libstdc++.so.5 in > conary.rpath.com@rpl:1-compat, but attempting to install it raises > errors about essential troves being removed. What is the best possible > method for resolving this, or am I out of luck? I believe the option you're looking for is --keep-existing: conary update --keep-existing libstdc++=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1-compat Sorry, but I don't have any advice about supporting encumbered multimedia on rPL. I do think it will be easier with rPL 2, however, since it will have gstreamer 0.10.x. HTH, Dave C. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Feb 22 13:36:33 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l1MIaWl4015998 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:36:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A45D17F3F1 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08312-02 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id C886217F417; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:31:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:31:59 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Multi-Media and particularly multi-lib Message-ID: <20070222183159.GA8238@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20070215143736.GA15284@bdmcc-us.com> <4c6f91c30702152158m258a739ie91c1d2a9d34b711@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c6f91c30702152158m258a739ie91c1d2a9d34b711@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:36:34 -0000 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 12:58:36AM -0500, David Coulthart wrote: > > I believe the option you're looking for is --keep-existing: > > conary update --keep-existing libstdc++=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1-compat Of course I was. Thank you. I finally got back to "my" machine -- working on client projects means I sometimes get delayed in my own enhancements. > Sorry, but I don't have any advice about supporting encumbered > multimedia on rPL. I do think it will be easier with rPL 2, however, > since it will have gstreamer 0.10.x. I am definitely looking forward to that. That's how I broke the machine in the first place -- trying to install Totem and gstreamer 0.10 in an rPL 1.x installation. Thanks, Brian From themoonseeker@gmail.com Tue Mar 13 07:05:37 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2DB5abY026905 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:05:36 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so2247545nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:02:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UxZKCuFJeb6fwRjgogoBtgPczGM7ZuFAEcTnNEZ538/IZILZn5/xKew/aUhkVrNgyP0hrOi2ZIrgUapVeE5wEkNe+Wxf4DaTS3l1MHn550kjRAIbEz4ni+2IdbIWKUb92hoX7LrHVXF/H25H9FXGkGaO/uZO5yN8mBb5cVnVxfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Qeq6x58xBd3er/XeFEhYYUqaf4ihTVw2PYAFYdiEtKiQJ8betQ2LNeGK0fcFF+p/WAozUjuD920ZrdAww90oUkEZvJmi9kePwQDQATGtYEXXjK8R1OeTTyzPrOirQnhKRs7hW6juHo0jidaQAaPMWiI80Gs0c7PNkYxs+/Gy5f0= Received: by 10.78.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr220066huf.1173783757232; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.56.8 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:02:37 +0100 From: "TheMoon Seeker" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Login problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19054_3038325.1173783757190" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:05:37 -0000 ------=_Part_19054_3038325.1173783757190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I don't know if i post on the right mailing mailing but I think someone can help me.. I create a project and a group. I the group, I add group-core from rapth, then I build a raw disk. This disk work with qemu, but I've a problem with the login. The system ask me for a login, but I don't have any idea what can I put... Have you some idea? I think it's related to rpath linux, who create the group-core, with default user... Thank you, Francis. ------=_Part_19054_3038325.1173783757190 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I don't know if i post on the right mailing mailing but I think someone can help me.. I create a project and a group. I the group, I add group-core from rapth, then I build a raw disk. This disk work with qemu, but I've a problem with the login. The system ask me for a login, but I don't have any idea what can I put... Have you some idea? I think it's related to rpath linux, who create the group-core, with default user...

Thank you,
Francis.
------=_Part_19054_3038325.1173783757190-- From yeliab@gmail.com Tue Mar 13 07:36:54 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2DBarPP027044 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:36:53 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so2257897nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:33:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aa3llkfgKINhf3KGcMobU//y8UJD+Bjls/a1XSGzvkAvBjgVufg93kBPW7JW89k6ZBxWZ6Y2aYTqyfPA6uGhpJv72EWf+BlpO/5o7weC8Qt2HE4GeoMf3esTKclGJ7w63m5Lky9AY8T1OTAT+UMTcwKBDnxZfMEYUnQyltzdmhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=go/OvJAXCqbnwqGf/RE+QWMVdzyEzLJ0SgUhjLXk0uGimcefcYXZKa2f4RfYN3QwHH8LDlElr9AFbUbZtwZU/KPmt8aQTuNhTc9UWe+f5CZfk1pLvhWfdvdXI7fxCxJ0FsFdC1fNwf05MDebOwNQ1pPfrweahoP4roOaa3tSWDA= Received: by 10.114.111.1 with SMTP id j1mr2355592wac.1173785636932; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.26.11 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:33:56 -0500 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem In-Reply-To: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:36:54 -0000 On 3/13/07, TheMoon Seeker wrote: ... > I don't know if i post on the right mailing mailing but I think someone can > help me.. I create a project and a group. I the group, I add group-core from > rapth, then I build a raw disk. This disk work with qemu, but I've a problem > with the login. The system ask me for a login, but I don't have any idea > what can I put... Have you some idea? I think it's related to rpath linux, > who create the group-core, with default user... Just enter "root" for the username and you should be all set; there's no password... Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From themoonseeker@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 10:49:41 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EEneT1003856 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:49:41 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so220706nfc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JPhkVjamOCqpfCM/Pk/qeNM/wuxXxi3Vk+c8/meyWNmXS/X6Yi1b8faowsOZ3CX40lFqUjx2sDpbfh0oZZOHidal/Vb+gC+WmbzTh+58PHx4Refhknkr7JSMUW+zk65It9f9PfsnIkNDR5gtiIWuGSD9sbvbB/UKyWW7T25eN3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fYWti4dQsNn5IfpMfEGieTDb2i/7KHPLWLh1FFT1VMIR+E08UmHcdfpPMVy4IIJCR/7MNc71svVP3M/9HwYj1m13GAJDHOA3yTgR2dRtu3OG8FojhydimpcLjPuqcgcDeTuN8F8ugKB+HipgKQHKjm/3janJ+JlaCvR/H0L1lng= Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr1229119hud.1173883579619; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.56.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:46:19 +0100 From: "TheMoon Seeker" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44493_31710024.1173883579569" References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:49:41 -0000 ------=_Part_44493_31710024.1173883579569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It doesn't work :( i've got a Login incorrect error, any idea? Thanks Francis. 2007/3/13, Edward C. Bailey : > > On 3/13/07, TheMoon Seeker wrote: > ... > > I don't know if i post on the right mailing mailing but I think someone > can > > help me.. I create a project and a group. I the group, I add group-core > from > > rapth, then I build a raw disk. This disk work with qemu, but I've a > problem > > with the login. The system ask me for a login, but I don't have any idea > > what can I put... Have you some idea? I think it's related to rpath > linuxa , > > who create the group-core, with default user... > > Just enter "root" for the username and you should be all set; there's > no password... > > Ed > -- > Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > ------=_Part_44493_31710024.1173883579569 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It doesn't work :( i've got a Login incorrect error, any idea?

Thanks
Francis.

2007/3/13, Edward C. Bailey <yeliab@gmail.com>:
On 3/13/07, TheMoon Seeker <themoonseeker@gmail.com > wrote:
...
> I don't know if i post on the right mailing mailing but I think someone can
> help me.. I create a project and a group. I the group, I add group-core from
> rapth, then I build a raw disk. This disk work with qemu, but I've a problem
> with the login. The system ask me for a login, but I don't have any idea
> what can I put... Have you some idea? I think it's related to rpath linuxa ,
> who create the group-core, with default user...

Just enter "root" for the username and you should be all set; there's
no password...

Ed
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Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem In-Reply-To: <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:30:09 -0000 On 3/14/07, TheMoon Seeker wrote: > It doesn't work :( i've got a Login incorrect error, any idea? Interesting. So you entered the following word -- all lowercase -- at the login prompt: root ...and then pressed enter. After you pressed enter, did it give you "Login incorrect" immediately after that, or did it ask for a password first? If it asked for a password, what did you type at that point? Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From themoonseeker@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 12:00:44 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EG0iql004427 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:00:44 -0500 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id x3so94480nzd for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=h1Kjr9odlOZwBrHZGctMz6CdhDKCc2Z+b9XSeZEPn+7czyauP3rY8j47EzywDg6EjpxBDBE/EwKpaxgZui2UD3tf4z8jDH8Fjz2Deh/O60+3bWSi/euNwV0Q7G0fULynsYCMPdpe2frHTjM9uWr4D7Yh9seyjd4XIfQ6toIgVcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lAHrUIxPSGr0q/kTTSRz9kOpQereXELuYoBNXm14NFgknaVcfltGVRcYlYmTzQxm0nlXG6cMP+elvsKu2tD8XNJAa+5Q1QzPnq8fAqOobv1davM+XDJodDT9FC6G/kmYccwYKJek/x2izfsYEgD/nJL57huQfIJxov+ARm//1dE= Received: by 10.65.133.8 with SMTP id k8mr4636801qbn.1173887873048; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.192.52.235? ( [193.134.216.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g8sm923280muf.2007.03.14.08.57.51; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: The MoonSeeker Subject: Re: Login problem Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:57:50 +0100 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id l2EG0iql004427 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:45 -0000 it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me "Login incorect" I don't understand.. francis Le 14 mars 07 à 16:27, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : > On 3/14/07, TheMoon Seeker wrote: >> It doesn't work :( i've got a Login incorrect error, any idea? > > Interesting. So you entered the following word -- all lowercase -- at > the login prompt: > > root > > ...and then pressed enter. After you pressed enter, did it give you > "Login incorrect" immediately after that, or did it ask for a password > first? If it asked for a password, what did you type at that point? > > Ed > -- > Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Mar 14 13:20:46 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EHKjBS005012 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF417F825 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08413-01 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B312017F828; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:17:45 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Interesting files in /var/lib/xen Message-ID: <20070314171745.GA8359@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:20:46 -0000 I was just looking through my system, and discovered a LOT of files in /var/lib/xen, almost all starting with vmlinuz, a few named initrd, and having .garbage ( probably some base-64 number ) appended. The sizes lead me to believe that these are kernel copies, is this true? What are they for, and are they removable? Thanks, Brian From yeliab@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 13:29:07 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EHT6wF005135 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:06 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id e2so676032ugf for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ajWmL914+Hfy7JYYb2R2RJa/jPvSQeBgVjoXNgdrZAayNA5kC/Hl/dyXv8RCYqUEGeCHScCbjCz77Hj40d0IL3rT0Qsh7z3TIjV+mnIRLgKgxfXCwEpYpsl0PRUXXt1GsCV2v5w3J4PDFnT6RV9ESHCvt7b4j/ovt0qeP2/NdwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=akDvtllPtKfx9bhuwNqymCPuofFaKTwClaWyAZ1Szs7Ph/yZYVdwNlR8MnSRkiVT5lBFfgy/H11W6GLzBDhnO1QxlOxjbLzgIFBQBw0vuRCXjaq/s9nx2ByehydFW0eZ5ll6PAcsXIv/nUiJA4n4RtQP4wAiCv3s81hQPUjJSEE= Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr2973746wao.1173893173722; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.26.11 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:26:13 -0400 From: "Edward C. Bailey" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:29:07 -0000 On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: > it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me "Login > incorect" I don't understand.. So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be interested in taking a look at it... Ed -- Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) From themoonseeker@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 13:37:17 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EHbH0B005192 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:37:17 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so288986nfc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:34:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=A+VkId4Hb7HFfWDUaEHCXu9LY70far+/451rcEyYRo+J1ImtWSYIPBMLee9v62syEZnl/XLyvXYzubHf1qZ0t4IqHZOUThvoTyZv3/mloiH5Et+1biOXsjVapT7qGz7dFnAh5+OLwqSVm4rkuCnEEYonP7o7Ji57bYBKaJy5SP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SFV3PTdE+oKcEcLKFcpKIeie4EfPRXm4E+Djc+qRoFgmL7kCOOl9niCTNADYcxVd9YmuDf3M2bl9zjI/d386ll8BI5vLfZfCPuWNpsYDkHCx3yTLx+xhyNatB4XLWl4fIaimju9FeCKoU6IUQXhMesdE6hQzBUZXvQSu3diwe0Q= Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr661978huf.1173893661872; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? ( [80.83.50.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e8sm689605muf.2007.03.14.10.34.21; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> From: The MoonSeeker Subject: Re: Login problem Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:34:19 +0100 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id l2EHbH0B005192 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:37:17 -0000 As you said it's really curious... Yes i've just pressed enter at the Password prompt. You can download my build here : http:// www.rpath.org/rbuilder/downloadImage?fileId=14138. I used Qemu. Thank you 4 support! Francis Le 14 mars 07 à 18:26, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : > On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: >> it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me "Login >> incorect" I don't understand.. > > So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very > curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be interested > in taking a look at it... > > Ed > > -- > Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From smg@rpath.com Wed Mar 14 13:38:48 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EHcmur005207 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:38:48 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.88] (duckpond.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EHZu0t016175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: <45F8327C.3020009@rpath.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:35:56 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Interesting files in /var/lib/xen References: <20070314171745.GA8359@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20070314171745.GA8359@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:38:48 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > I was just looking through my system, and discovered a LOT of files in > /var/lib/xen, almost all starting with vmlinuz, a few named initrd, and > having .garbage ( probably some base-64 number ) appended. > > The sizes lead me to believe that these are kernel copies, is this true? > What are they for, and are they removable? > > > Thanks, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > I believe those kernels and initrds are from using pygrub. pygrub literally copies the kernel and initrd from the image you're trying to boot to the main system. That means they're safe to delete. Stu From smg@rpath.com Wed Mar 14 14:06:10 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EI6A5r005434 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:06:10 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.88] (duckpond.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EI3I9O027739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:03:18 -0400 Message-ID: <45F838E6.6010609@rpath.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:03:18 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:06:10 -0000 The image you're trying to boot is based off a group-core from the devel label. The devel label is pretty unstable, and I would advise against basing anything off it for casual use. This happened because your project's default label was set to rpl:devel. I fixed that issue for you (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you should be able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. If you wanted to correct the current group, you could delete group-core and re-add it from the rPath Linux project. Good luck! Stu The MoonSeeker wrote: > As you said it's really curious... Yes i've just pressed enter at the > Password prompt. You can download my build here : http:// > www.rpath.org/rbuilder/downloadImage?fileId=14138. I used Qemu. > > Thank you 4 support! > Francis > > Le 14 mars 07 à 18:26, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : > > >> On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: >> >>> it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me "Login >>> incorect" I don't understand.. >>> >> So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very >> curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be interested >> in taking a look at it... >> >> Ed >> >> -- >> Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From themoonseeker@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 14:26:54 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EIQrTQ005585 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:26:53 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id e2so17480ugf for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:24:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=L3cmBPLsuGrqlDwUMXGbmzNY3Ir0lwsobywDGvym5CG1U5y2xHTpuM5AwsuwP2EKSXPGY7wz1vHy4b35WNOTAyw7Ed/caONQJWNwb9nuuENCpL9W+Yaa+z17bsGBGB0xoQNXB84zfRA5SvWHov5LXE6GCujdqjOMOBNXjEfftaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Svowvc4Uxr/hnWgb2MctO31nxWu9TctQgYIW9k/Fp3bDDDYQd0MeQuT+FIiZnUkUKI85Wjhpc1C8b8cBfRHs40tJDMDnO5pegNVEfpeedcOrmQt0mO/PD5Fp1CyEeZzL90xDG+8diq7TBRBUwPU7A2hS9Vh3uQhr1HVRUg+c8ig= Received: by 10.67.93.6 with SMTP id v6mr1436475ugl.1173896640873; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? ( [80.83.50.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o24sm1191512ugd.2007.03.14.11.23.57; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45F838E6.6010609@rpath.com> References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> <45F838E6.6010609@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: The MoonSeeker Subject: Re: Login problem Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:23:55 +0100 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id l2EIQrTQ005585 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:26:54 -0000 > fixed that issue for you > (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you > should be > able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. Ohhhh!! I don't see this option.. Thank you so much. I'm not on my working station, I will test tomorrow a new cook and the back to you if it works. I've got a question, is it possible to create a build who contains online package and mine package? Does I have to install rpath linux? Thanks!! Francis Le 14 mars 07 à 19:03, Stu Gott a écrit : > The image you're trying to boot is based off a group-core from the > devel > label. The devel label is pretty unstable, and I would advise against > basing anything off it for casual use. This happened because your > project's default label was set to rpl:devel. I fixed that issue > for you > (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you > should be > able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. > > If you wanted to correct the current group, you could delete group- > core > and re-add it from the rPath Linux project. > > Good luck! > > Stu > > The MoonSeeker wrote: >> As you said it's really curious... Yes i've just pressed enter at the >> Password prompt. You can download my build here : http:// >> www.rpath.org/rbuilder/downloadImage?fileId=14138. I used Qemu. >> >> Thank you 4 support! >> Francis >> >> Le 14 mars 07 à 18:26, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : >> >> >>> On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: >>> >>>> it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me >>>> "Login >>>> incorect" I don't understand.. >>>> >>> So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very >>> curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be >>> interested >>> in taking a look at it... >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> -- >>> Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> distro-list mailing list >>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From smg@rpath.com Wed Mar 14 14:40:08 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EIe8vW005661 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:40:08 -0500 Received: from [172.16.58.88] (duckpond.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EIbGKb012663 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:37:16 -0400 Message-ID: <45F840DC.3050108@rpath.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:37:16 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Login problem References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> <45F838E6.6010609@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:40:08 -0000 In order to put packages into your images, they need to be hosted on rBuilder Online. In order to cook things into rBuilder Online, the path of least resistance is to install rPath Linux. Stu The MoonSeeker wrote: >> fixed that issue for you >> (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you >> should be >> able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. >> > > Ohhhh!! I don't see this option.. Thank you so much. I'm not on my > working station, I will test tomorrow a new cook and the back to you > if it works. I've got a question, is it possible to create a build > who contains online package and mine package? Does I have to install > rpath linux? > > Thanks!! > Francis > > Le 14 mars 07 à 19:03, Stu Gott a écrit : > > >> The image you're trying to boot is based off a group-core from the >> devel >> label. The devel label is pretty unstable, and I would advise against >> basing anything off it for casual use. This happened because your >> project's default label was set to rpl:devel. I fixed that issue >> for you >> (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you >> should be >> able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. >> >> If you wanted to correct the current group, you could delete group- >> core >> and re-add it from the rPath Linux project. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Stu >> >> The MoonSeeker wrote: >> >>> As you said it's really curious... Yes i've just pressed enter at the >>> Password prompt. You can download my build here : http:// >>> www.rpath.org/rbuilder/downloadImage?fileId=14138. I used Qemu. >>> >>> Thank you 4 support! >>> Francis >>> >>> Le 14 mars 07 à 18:26, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me >>>>> "Login >>>>> incorect" I don't understand.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very >>>> curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be >>>> interested >>>> in taking a look at it... >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> distro-list mailing list >>>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> distro-list mailing list >>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From themoonseeker@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:52:33 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EJqWjD006070 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:52:32 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id e2so41899ugf for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:49:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hqVQ9/hmR+yngBAAg38KCpYmRegXdDYY7Um/0AX4A4D08L9pY5aaCb8cOM+vhzr9qWm4A8K34WWzr7fIVPGMZkfJGZwNK8IuKq/uXMsNsTsAWgZ39gQWqvvmKZPpfFoefKAsRo721g4Ddc+ld3AjSEaG/GOnpXfkcJn5SjihuNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Lywmm9pLE/f5qAkjamBUC0r5oms2fXaAGYVYVjH1e8h+ljcKqtw6zzQoxENcxSyH0/rTdTEZVgBan/rEj8RSvqgPU2DnFTnwVYEfUTbMH8qQGV9BhyVndShIQ3heh2/Ji3JLHzuyZ0KC/s1Ij6AlfGjan+ptr41bUG5fMkuEeFw= Received: by 10.67.121.15 with SMTP id y15mr1518348ugm.1173901410109; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? ( [80.83.50.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g30sm1308275ugd.2007.03.14.12.43.28; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45F840DC.3050108@rpath.com> References: <93ad97c80703130402u60f55495h5ed73f7f4afeb762@mail.gmail.com> <93ad97c80703140746o56544037q4b21408ee3a64ac2@mail.gmail.com> <6BFB49E5-E9E5-44E3-B843-54A32FEE2871@gmail.com> <45F838E6.6010609@rpath.com> <45F840DC.3050108@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <548648C3-B01A-440F-ADFD-188D6AA8EE26@gmail.com> From: The MoonSeeker Subject: Re: Login problem Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:43:24 +0100 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id l2EJqWjD006070 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:52:33 -0000 hmmm ok I understand, thank you! Is it possible to add configuration files in my cook? it's not some packages but a "customization" of my flavor, how can we do that? Francis. Le 14 mars 07 à 19:37, Stu Gott a écrit : > In order to put packages into your images, they need to be hosted on > rBuilder Online. In order to cook things into rBuilder Online, the > path > of least resistance is to install rPath Linux. > > Stu > > The MoonSeeker wrote: >>> fixed that issue for you >>> (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you >>> should be >>> able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. >>> >> >> Ohhhh!! I don't see this option.. Thank you so much. I'm not on my >> working station, I will test tomorrow a new cook and the back to you >> if it works. I've got a question, is it possible to create a build >> who contains online package and mine package? Does I have to install >> rpath linux? >> >> Thanks!! >> Francis >> >> Le 14 mars 07 à 19:03, Stu Gott a écrit : >> >> >>> The image you're trying to boot is based off a group-core from the >>> devel >>> label. The devel label is pretty unstable, and I would advise >>> against >>> basing anything off it for casual use. This happened because your >>> project's default label was set to rpl:devel. I fixed that issue >>> for you >>> (I changed the default label from rpl:devel to rpl:1), so you >>> should be >>> able to create new groups that won't be affected by this issue. >>> >>> If you wanted to correct the current group, you could delete group- >>> core >>> and re-add it from the rPath Linux project. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Stu >>> >>> The MoonSeeker wrote: >>> >>>> As you said it's really curious... Yes i've just pressed enter >>>> at the >>>> Password prompt. You can download my build here : http:// >>>> www.rpath.org/rbuilder/downloadImage?fileId=14138. I used Qemu. >>>> >>>> Thank you 4 support! >>>> Francis >>>> >>>> Le 14 mars 07 à 18:26, Edward C. Bailey a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/14/07, The MoonSeeker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> it ask me for a password, i put nothing and finally it give me >>>>>> "Login >>>>>> incorect" I don't understand.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> So at the "Password:" prompt you just pressed the enter key? Very >>>>> curious. Can you direct me to your raw disk image? I'd be >>>>> interested >>>>> in taking a look at it... >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ed Bailey (http://public.xdi.org/=edward.c.bailey) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> distro-list mailing list >>>>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>>>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> distro-list mailing list >>>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> distro-list mailing list >>> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >>> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From lmth@deakin.edu.au Wed Mar 21 19:50:41 2007 Received: from deakin.edu.au (tegmen.its.deakin.edu.au [128.184.136.36]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2LNoeGT005544 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:50:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (tegmen-1.its.deakin.edu.au [128.184.136.55]) by deakin.edu.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2LNlhbA019517 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:47:43 +1100 Received: from winax21-177.dialup.optusnet.com.au (winax21-177.dialup.optusnet.com.au [211.29.114.177]) by mail.deakin.edu.au (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:47:43 +1100 Message-ID: <20070322104743.9oe37qoef4k4sg0c@mail.deakin.edu.au> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:47:43 +1100 From: lmth@deakin.edu.au To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: A request for your input. 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From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Apr 4 10:06:32 2007 Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com (bdmcc-us.com [209.42.230.180]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l34E6WwW023856 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:06:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3536117F905 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (host.domain.tld [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 23922-03-4 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 010C717F8FD; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:03:28 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: UpdateAll with "keep-required" Message-ID: <20070404140328.GA23923@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:06:32 -0000 Group, I have held off asking this for some time, trying to find a way around my issue. A while ago, I was led to the "keep-required" flag on a "conary update" when I wanted to install a package that required a different version of libstdc++. However, now I find that this system will not "updateall", complaining that troves being removed are required. I have tried "keep-required" with updateall, but it seems that this flag is not allowed. I tried using "update" and "sync" on specific troves but that doesn't help, because it says that those are up to date. I would rather not remove the trove that needed the "keep-required", but I am beginning to think that that is the only solution. Any body have any suggestions for my next step? Thanks, Brian From jtate@rpath.com Wed Apr 4 10:52:46 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l34EqkWL024203 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:52:46 -0400 Received: from hambone.rdu.rpath.com (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l34Enhf8017682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:49:44 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: UpdateAll with "keep-required" Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:49:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070404140328.GA23923@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20070404140328.GA23923@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704041049.43442.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:52:47 -0000 This is why I now consider keep-required to be harmful. As a temporary work around, remove the offending trove(s), then after you've run updateall, reinstall libstdc++ with --keep-existing and reinstall the requiring package, and then pin that version. If you have specific steps that can be used to reproduce, a bug filed against conary would be great. When it happened to me I had nothing specific to report. Another thing to try would be to run conary sync group-dist. On Wednesday 04 April 2007 10:03:28 Brian McCullough wrote: > Group, > > I have held off asking this for some time, trying to find a way around > my issue. > > > A while ago, I was led to the "keep-required" flag on a "conary > update" when I wanted to install a package that required a different > version of libstdc++. > > However, now I find that this system will not "updateall", complaining > that troves being removed are required. > > I have tried "keep-required" with updateall, but it seems that this flag > is not allowed. I tried using "update" and "sync" on specific troves > but that doesn't help, because it says that those are up to date. > > I would rather not remove the trove that needed the "keep-required", but > I am beginning to think that that is the only solution. > > > Any body have any suggestions for my next step? > > > Thanks, > Brian -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc. http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ (919) 851-3984 x2106 From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Apr 11 16:02:54 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3BK2seJ014180 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:02:54 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3BJxnD8010266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:59:49 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l3BJxn1q020525 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:59:49 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l3BJxnmq020524 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:59:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:59:49 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 2 Alpha 3 Message-ID: <20070411195949.GA20446@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:02:54 -0000 The third development snapshot in the rPath Linux 2 Alpha release process has been made available. If you are not yet familiar with rPath Linux or the Conary technology, we recommend that you use our supported and maintained rPath Linux 1 product to become familiar with both technologies before experiencing this alpha development snapshot. rPath Linux 1 information is available at http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_1 Most of the software included in the distribution has been updated, and it has been completely rebuilt from source since the second development snapshot. This includes latest X from x.org and latest GNOME. It also changes the way that Python was built; unfortunately, this makes it hard to update from alpha2. Also, the group structure was modified, which also makes it hard to update. We recommend new installs for rPath Linux 2 alpha 3. Please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_2 for a description of the release process and technology targets for rPath Linux 2. To download any of the images, please visit rBuilder Online: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpl-devel/release?id=5512 There are many known issues in this snapshot. You can view the rPath Linux 2 and rPath Linux Development versions from https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL to see what issues apply. o Absolutely do not use these images for any productions uses. We will be making major organizational changes. Updates may not work cleanly. Expect to re-install rather than update from time to time. Some tag scripts may not function. Do not use it in any case in which prolonged instances of software failure, or destruction or loss of data, will inconvenience you. o We strongly encourage you to file issues in Jira by visiting https://issues.rpath.com/ -- but please search first to see if the issue has already been reported. o This is a new version of the anaconda installer; please exercise different code paths and options and report issues. Be aware that installation may require 256MB on x86 and 512MB on x86_64. o Several issues are known in the installation process. Among them are: Package selection on x86_64 will function only if you are doing network installation with repository access, and will install extra packages. (RPL-1222) Text mode network setup with multiple network adapters has a display artifact. (RPL-1194) In GUI mode package selection, if all components of a package are unselected the package remains selected. This is just a display bug, the backend actually unselects the package. (RPL-1187) While installing packages the time tends to go up and the all of a sudden the install finishes at around 45% of the progress bar. This is just a display problem, the system is installed correctly. (RPL-1215) firstboot fails with a traceback on startup. (RPL-1219) In GUI installs, do not use the magnifying glass tool during time zone selection. (RPL-1235) We would like to encourage testers to join the #conary channel on irc.freenode.net to discuss this testing. Additionally, posts to distro-list@lists.rpath.com are welcome. Thanks for your interest in rPath Linux! From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue May 15 17:13:52 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4FLDqN8006861; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:52 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4FLAVxj005356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:31 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l4FLAVYP003837; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:31 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l4FLAU2Q003836; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:30 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.6 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20070515211030.GA2739@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:13:53 -0000 rPath Linux, the first Linux distribution built using the groundbreaking Conary software management system, has released updated images for rPath Linux 1. The new images incorporate updates to the installation process and all package updates released as of May 11, 2007. In particular, the installation images and installed system now include a 2.6.19.7 Linux kernel, enabling installation on more recent hardware not supported by previous installation media. (Linux kernels for Xen support are 2.6.16.29 in this release.) New to 1.0.6 are x86_64 VMware and Xen images, as well as x86 and x86_64 ESX images. If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. For information on managing Conary-based systems, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary:QuickReference The 32-bit Xen domU image contains two kernels. One supports older Xen dom0 hosts with kernels that do not include PAE support. The other supports newer Xen dom0 hosts that do include PAE support. If you experience a boot failure in that domU image, select the other kernel. For more information on Xen domU support, please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Xen_DomU_Guide Where can I get it? =================== The new images are available via HTTP and BitTorrent from: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=5580 What is rPath Linux? ==================== rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/. rPath Linux is also a fully functioning Linux distribution in its own right. Installing rPath Linux is the easiest way to get familiar with using Conary to manage software and systems. rPath offers formal support to customers who use rPath Linux to build software appliances. How do I get involved? ====================== E-Mail: o rPath invites anyone interested in rPath Linux and Conary to join the distro-list@lists.rpath.com mailing list. The list carries announcements, discussion, and informal support. Chat: o rPath Linux developers and community contributors often use the #conary IRC channel on irc.freenode.org for real-time communication. Bug Reports and Feature Requests: o You can create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.6 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using the rBuilder Online tool at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.19.7. For Xen domU (guest system) images, Xen 3.0.3 dom0 (hypervisor domain) platforms, such as the rPath Linux 1.0.6 dom0 implementation. For Xen dom0 (host system) images, hardware platform supported by Linux kernel 2.6.16.29 with Xen support. Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. Installing the default choices will use approximately 4.5GB of disk space. The smallest installation available from the rPath Linux CD/DVD images is available only using a text-mode installation and requires less than 300 MB of disk space. A full installation of all the software included on the CD/DVD images requires approximately 6GB of disk space. Major Contents - Conary 1.1.24.1 - Linux kernel 2.6.19.7 - Xen 3.0.3 with Linux kernel 2.6.16.29 - GCC 3.4.4 - Glibc 2.3.6 - Xorg-X11 6.8.2 - GNOME 2.12 - KDE 3.4.2 Updates The "conary updateall" command will update all the software on your system managed by Conary. The "conary update group-dist" command will update all the software on your system that was (or could have been) installed from the distribution media. rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published on mailing lists: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce There is no need to subscribe to both lists. rPath Linux 1 updates will be publicly available until six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. After that time, updates will be made available on a subscription basis. For more information on rPath Linux subscriptions, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com Additional Software In order to reduce the size and download time for normal use, the rPath Linux CD/DVD images do not contain all the software contained in rPath Linux; in particular, they do not contain many of the internet server packages (such as dovecot, the IMAP server in rPath Linux), and they also do not contain some packages that are alternatives to packages contained on the CD/DVD images (such as thunderbird, an alternative to the evolution mail client included on the CD/DVD images). These packages are excluded from the CD/DVD images only because of frequency of use, and they are supported and maintained on the same basis as the packages that are included on the CD/DVD images. All software packages in the conary.rpath.com repository on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label and contained directly or indirectly in the group-os groups are part of the rPath Linux operating system. Software packages that are on the "conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" label but not contained in group-os are provided by rPath, Inc. as software compatible with rPath Linux but are not supported as part of the rPath Linux operating system. The group-os group in the repository is the canonical definition of the supported operating system. Further software is available from the rPath Linux contributed software repository. This repository is maintained and supported only on an ad-hoc basis, by a community of developers. The contributed software repository is part of the default search path for packages; if you wish to install only supported and maintained software, you should edit your /etc/conaryrc file and remove the "contrib.rpath.org@rpl:1" and items from the installLabelPath line. Contacting rPath rPath offers software appliance versions of rBuilder that may be deployed at your site, as well as support and maintenance for rPath Linux. For more information, contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com. Please visit https://issues.rpath.com/ to report bugs and make enhancement requests. Conary and rPath Linux developers frequent the #conary channel on the freenode IRC network (http://www.freenode.net/) See http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo for mailing lists where rPath Linux and Conary are discussed. Technical information about Conary and rPath Linux is kept at http://wiki.rpath.com/ Source Code The source code for each package can be accessed via Conary's "cvc" command. More information on the cvc command is available in the cvc man page. Creating Software Appliances Visit rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ to create software appliances and purpose-built distributions based on rPath Linux. Contact rPath at +1 919 851 3984 or email info@rpath.com for information on deploying rBuilder at your site. Copyright 2006-2007 rPath, Inc. rPath, rPath Linux, Conary, and rBuilder are trademarks of rPath, Inc. Xen is a trademark of XenSource, Inc. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. From distro.watch@msa.hinet.net Tue May 15 17:32:21 2007 Received: from msr9.hinet.net (msr9.hinet.net [168.95.4.109]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4FLWK6x007042 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:32:20 -0400 Received: from localhost.local (59-115-96-60.dynamic.hinet.net [59.115.96.60]) by msr9.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27125 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:28:53 +0800 (CST) From: Ladislav Bodnar To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 1.0.6 available for x86 and x86_64 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:28:07 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070515211030.GA2739@logo.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20070515211030.GA2739@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705160528.07498.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:32:21 -0000 On Wednesday 16 May 2007, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Where can I get it? > =================== > > The new images are available via HTTP and BitTorrent from: > http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=5580 Where does one find the MD5 or SHA1 sums for all the ISO images? I noticed that neither rPath nor Foresight ever provide any checksums, or at least they are not easy to find and there is no mention of them on the download page. Or did I miss them? Ladislav From smithj@rpath.com Tue May 15 17:55:37 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4FLtbAw007219 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:55:37 -0400 Received: from ichigo.rdu.rpath.com (ichigo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4FLqHL7024003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:52:17 -0400 Message-ID: <464A2B90.8000609@rpath.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:52:16 -0400 From: Jonathan Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070507) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 1.0.6 available for x86 and x86_64 References: <20070515211030.GA2739@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <200705160528.07498.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> In-Reply-To: <200705160528.07498.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:55:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ladislav Bodnar wrote: > Where does one find the MD5 or SHA1 sums for all the ISO images? I noticed > that neither rPath nor Foresight ever provide any checksums, or at least > they are not easy to find and there is no mention of them on the download > page. Or did I miss them? Not that its strictly relevant to this list, but Foresight's download page [1] does have both sha1 and md5 checksums (which I added recently). [1]: http://www.foresightlinux.org/downloads/ smithj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGSiuQ0e1Yawpq2XMRAk67AJ9IElNygR/F9+tiiPJfOJ7f6dOOYgCfdjk5 2Z1rCaMC/2CwU8wveMLFYCw= =KOJD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Jun 8 12:20:02 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l58GK20C000891 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:20:02 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l58GGVaw012043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:16:31 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l58GGVe4020859 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:16:31 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l58GGVxS020858 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:16:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:16:31 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2: Improving the Mousetrap Message-ID: <20070608161631.GB20786@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:20:03 -0000 At rPath, our constant intent that drove us to create Conary, rPath Linux, and rBuilder was to make it possible to build, maintain, and support customized operating system products without starting from scratch. One size does not fit all. Our technology lets you depend on experts in operating system development to build the core operating system -- this lets you build products that showcase your expertise without duplicating ours. We are delighted today by the number and quality of software appliances and entire distributions that domain experts have created with Conary, rPath Linux and rBuilder. In order to help you spread the word to the world about your exciting new technology, we regularly highlight your appliances on the rBuilder Online front page. As part of supporting your efforts building your own custom products based on our core technology, we have learned that the things that make an excellent general-purpose distribution are not necessarily the same things that make it easy for people to build their own customized operating system products. Features that make it easy for you to put your own brand on your product are essentially useless in a general-purpose distribution but critical in rPath Linux. By the same token, the latest and greatest desktop tools for end users are not really useful for creating customized software appliances. Especially now that Foresight Linux has established a commanding presence as an aggressively updated and maintained Linux desktop environment, and is now one of the leading desktop Linux distributions, it makes little sense for future versions of rPath Linux to contain a huge variety of extended desktop tools; Foresight covers this area better than rPath Linux ever did. What the Foresight community needs from rPath is solid core software: system installation, libraries, development tools, system daemons and tools, including core freedesktop.org tools. For rPath Linux 2, we will let projects like Foresight Linux, OpenFiler, AsteriskNOW, and others be the source for the latest and greatest technology for their differentiating features, and we'll concentrate our efforts on adding features to rPath Linux 2 to make their jobs easier. This will make rPath Linux 2 an even better base for building software and virtual appliances. As part of the first set of changes relating to this more focused direction, several of the most prolific developers in the Foresight community have been requesting that we let them manage the desktop stack. Therefore, the work on GNOME, KDE, and OpenOffice.org that has been done in the rPath Linux development branch will be merged with the work done in Foresight Linux, and Foresight will be adding a KDE release. In return, rPath has been assisting the Foresight community in building the 64-bit flavor of Foresight Linux. rPath Linux 2 will continue to include network and system services, as well as core graphical components, including everything required for system installation. Now, we'll be able to put more time into the boot process (graphical boot with usplash, integrating syslinux for more robust boot), security features such as stack protection, system functionality such as iSCSI integration, better integration with virtualization environments, new appliance-specific installation mechanisms, and so forth. Where do we go from here? Q: I'm currently using rPath Linux as my desktop; what should I do? A: Foresight Linux is the most widely-used Conary-based desktop distribution available. Most developers at rPath prefer it for their own desktop development environment. Q: I'm building an appliance and want to make sure rPath takes my needs into account; what should I do? A: Please browse our online issue tracker at https://issues.rpath.com/ and feel free to file new issues with suggestions. If you want more direct input, our sales staff at info@rpath.com are always willing to talk with you! Q: I'm an appliance developer. Do I have to change my groups? My group currently references group-core from rPath Linux 1. What should I do? A: rPath Linux 1 and rPath Linux 2 will *both* have a group called group-appliance-platform which will be our recommended base for appliances. It adds several management tools, and will include the rPath Appliance Platform Agent (rAPA, formerly known as rAA). Q: What does this do to my deployed units? Do my users have to know anything about this? A: When you choose to migrate your appliance to be based on rPath Linux 2, the change should be generally invisible to your users, except that you will be able to make use of new features. That is, your users should have an even better appliance experience, but the migration process should be painless. Q: What about rPath Linux 1? Will you continue to maintain it? How soon do I have to adapt? A: Relax, you have plenty of time. rPath will continue to publish maintenance updates to rPath Linux 1 for at least six months after rPath Linux 2 has been released. If you require maintenance of rPath Linux 1 for a longer period of time, contact info@rpath.com. Conary makes it easy for you to make whatever modifications you want even after that time, but we hope that rPath Linux 2 features are so compelling that you will want to move forward! Q: I have shadowed from rPath Linux 1. What do I need to do? Do I have to re-shadow? A: We recommend building a new version (major or minor revision) of your product based on rPath Linux 2, when you are ready for your appliance's consumers to move to an rPath Linux 2 base. For example, if you currently have built your appliance on example.rpath.org@example:myproduct-1 based on rPath Linux 1, you might build a minor revision on example.rpath.org@example:myproduct-1.1 or you might build a major new version on example.rpath.org@example:myproduct-2 Q: My question isn't here! A: That's not a question, but please visit http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:Migrating_to_rPath_Linux_2 Please add your questions on the discussion page. From padonker@technoware.nl Tue Sep 4 16:33:46 2007 Received: from mail.sixfold.nl (intra.demon.nl [82.161.102.69]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l84KXjwS003257 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:33:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 20164 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 20:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.1.100) by mail.sixfold.nl with SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 20:29:35 -0000 Message-ID: <46DDC04C.3060506@technoware.nl> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:30:04 +0200 From: Patrick Donker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:33:46 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to install the HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller (Proliant DL320s) management tools onto an Openfiler appliance running on rPath, but the system is returning a whole bunch of errors. I have asked the Openfiler forum and developers for help, but they are unable to help me and suggested to try here. Below I have pasted the discussion taken from the Openfiler forum. Maybe somebody can help me and suggest what to do to make this work? Thanks Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have a DL320S with OF running with just 2 disk in a raid 0+1 set up. Now 'all' I need to do is chuck in some more disks and create a raid5 or raid6 disk set so I can start using it for storage. Only thing I am wondering about is how to get the management tools working. I've seen Raid5 volume support on the web gui, but I wonder if this is just soft raid? How do I create and expand a hardware raid set on this server? Thanks Patrick litkaj Moderator Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? The RAID tools in the OF GUI are for software RAID only. If your RAID card comes with its own management utilities then you would need to install them on your system. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings 1. 4 2007-08-07 11:21:33 padonker Member Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? If only OF supported RPMs :'( Installing the HP support tools is a no go. I managed to conary rpm, but if I try to install the support tools I end up in a dependency hell. A simple HP Array Configuration Utility CLI install gives me this [root@san01 ~]# rpm -i hpacucli-7.85-18.linux.rpm error: Failed dependencies: /bin/bash is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 /bin/sh is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libc.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libdl.so.2 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libm.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libpthread.so.0 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 Last edited by padonker (2007-08-07 13:07:24) 1. 5 2007-08-07 19:12:37 litkaj Moderator Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? If all of those packages exist on your system then you could try installing without the dependency check. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings 1. 6 2007-08-07 21:02:03 padonker Member Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? Is there a quick way to check this? I am no linux expert, so please clue me in. sh and bash most definitively exist alright wink. The how come the installer doesnt detect/see them? -- Update: Tried with --nodeps and it installed (obviously), but on run it says: [root@san01 ~]# hpacucli /opt/compaq/hpacucli/bld/.hpacucli: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory and indeed, find / -name libstdc++-libc6* only finds /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 Any suggestions? Last edited by padonker (2007-08-08 11:24:34) 1. 7 Yesterday 14:54:54 litkaj Moderator Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? Sorry, I don't know what package would have the needed file. You might want to try contacting rPath directly as they would have a better idea as to how to go about installing something like this on their platform. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings From rafiu@openfiler.com Tue Sep 4 18:08:39 2007 Received: from delhi.openfiler.com (mx.openfiler.com [84.45.94.230]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l84M8cj6004038 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:08:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by delhi.openfiler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A119A41C941 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:49:10 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -4.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.185 tagged_above=-10 required=4.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.214, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from delhi.openfiler.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delhi.openfiler.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q5ZIso+IkZy5 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:48:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from Macintosh.local (unknown [84.12.112.162]) by delhi.openfiler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5521841C0CA for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:48:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46DDD659.6010809@openfiler.com> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:04:09 +0100 From: Rafiu Fakunle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller support References: <46DDC04C.3060506@technoware.nl> In-Reply-To: <46DDC04C.3060506@technoware.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:08:39 -0000 Patrick Donker wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to install the HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller > (Proliant DL320s) management tools onto an Openfiler appliance running > on rPath, but the system is returning a whole bunch of errors. I have > asked the Openfiler forum and developers for help, but they are unable > to help me and suggested to try here. Below I have pasted the discussion > taken from the Openfiler forum. Maybe somebody can help me and suggest > what to do to make this work? > > Thanks Patrick > > Install the contents of this RPM in /usr/lib/ ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-132.fc4.i386.rpm 1) rpm2cpio blah.rpm > blah.cpio 2) cpio -idumv < blah.cpio 3) cp ./usr/lib/* /usr/lib/ Run hpacucli. I've not tested beyond getting the prompt for the CLI, so YMMV. R. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > I have a DL320S with OF running with just 2 disk in a raid 0+1 set up. > Now 'all' I need to do is chuck in some more disks and create a raid5 or > raid6 disk set so I can start using it for storage. Only thing I am > wondering about is how to get the management tools working. I've seen > Raid5 volume support on the web gui, but I wonder if this is just soft > raid? How do I create and expand a hardware raid set on this server? > > Thanks Patrick > > > litkaj > > Moderator > > Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? > > The RAID tools in the OF GUI are for software RAID only. If your RAID > card comes with its own management utilities then you would need to > install them on your system. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings > > > 1. 4 2007-08-07 11:21:33 > > padonker > > Member > > Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? > > If only OF supported RPMs :'( Installing the HP support tools is a no > go. I managed to conary rpm, but if I try to install the support tools I > end up in a dependency hell. > > A simple HP Array Configuration Utility CLI install gives me this > > [root@san01 ~]# rpm -i hpacucli-7.85-18.linux.rpm error: Failed > dependencies: > > /bin/bash is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > /bin/sh is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libc.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libdl.so.2 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libm.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libpthread.so.0 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 > > Last edited by padonker (2007-08-07 13:07:24) > > > 1. 5 2007-08-07 19:12:37 > > litkaj > > Moderator > > Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? > > If all of those packages exist on your system then you could try > installing without the dependency check. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings > > > 1. 6 2007-08-07 21:02:03 > > padonker > > Member > > Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? > > Is there a quick way to check this? I am no linux expert, so please clue > me in. sh and bash most definitively exist alright wink. The how come > the installer doesnt detect/see them? > > -- Update: > > Tried with --nodeps and it installed (obviously), but on run it says: > > [root@san01 ~]# hpacucli /opt/compaq/hpacucli/bld/.hpacucli: error while > loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > and indeed, find / -name libstdc++-libc6* only finds > > /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 > /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 > > Any suggestions? > > Last edited by padonker (2007-08-08 11:24:34) > > > 1. 7 Yesterday 14:54:54 > > > litkaj > > Moderator > > Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? > > Sorry, I don't know what package would have the needed file. You might > want to try contacting rPath directly as they would have a better idea > as to how to go about installing something like this on their platform. > Jason Litka Utter Ramblings > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From padonker@technoware.nl Wed Sep 5 03:15:27 2007 Received: from mail.sixfold.nl (intra.demon.nl [82.161.102.69]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l857FP2p007850 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:15:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 1340 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 07:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.1.100) by mail.sixfold.nl with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 07:11:13 -0000 Message-ID: <46DE56B0.3000404@technoware.nl> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:11:44 +0200 From: Patrick Donker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller support References: <46DDC04C.3060506@technoware.nl> <46DDD659.6010809@openfiler.com> In-Reply-To: <46DDD659.6010809@openfiler.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:15:27 -0000 Great, this works :D Thanks for the quick reply -Patrick Rafiu Fakunle wrote: > Patrick Donker wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I'm trying to install the HP SmartArray P400 SAS RAID Controller >> (Proliant DL320s) management tools onto an Openfiler appliance running >> on rPath, but the system is returning a whole bunch of errors. I have >> asked the Openfiler forum and developers for help, but they are unable >> to help me and suggested to try here. Below I have pasted the discussion >> taken from the Openfiler forum. Maybe somebody can help me and suggest >> what to do to make this work? >> >> Thanks Patrick >> >> >> > > Install the contents of this RPM in /usr/lib/ > > ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-132.fc4.i386.rpm > > 1) rpm2cpio blah.rpm > blah.cpio > 2) cpio -idumv < blah.cpio > 3) cp ./usr/lib/* /usr/lib/ > > Run hpacucli. > > I've not tested beyond getting the prompt for the CLI, so YMMV. > > > R. > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> I have a DL320S with OF running with just 2 disk in a raid 0+1 set up. >> Now 'all' I need to do is chuck in some more disks and create a raid5 or >> raid6 disk set so I can start using it for storage. Only thing I am >> wondering about is how to get the management tools working. I've seen >> Raid5 volume support on the web gui, but I wonder if this is just soft >> raid? How do I create and expand a hardware raid set on this server? >> >> Thanks Patrick >> >> >> litkaj >> >> Moderator >> >> Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? >> >> The RAID tools in the OF GUI are for software RAID only. If your RAID >> card comes with its own management utilities then you would need to >> install them on your system. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings >> >> >> 1. 4 2007-08-07 11:21:33 >> >> padonker >> >> Member >> >> Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? >> >> If only OF supported RPMs :'( Installing the HP support tools is a no >> go. I managed to conary rpm, but if I try to install the support tools I >> end up in a dependency hell. >> >> A simple HP Array Configuration Utility CLI install gives me this >> >> [root@san01 ~]# rpm -i hpacucli-7.85-18.linux.rpm error: Failed >> dependencies: >> >> /bin/bash is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> /bin/sh is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libc.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libdl.so.2 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libm.so.6 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libpthread.so.0 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is needed by hpacucli-7.85-18.i386 >> >> Last edited by padonker (2007-08-07 13:07:24) >> >> >> 1. 5 2007-08-07 19:12:37 >> >> litkaj >> >> Moderator >> >> Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? >> >> If all of those packages exist on your system then you could try >> installing without the dependency check. Jason Litka Utter Ramblings >> >> >> 1. 6 2007-08-07 21:02:03 >> >> padonker >> >> Member >> >> Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? >> >> Is there a quick way to check this? I am no linux expert, so please clue >> me in. sh and bash most definitively exist alright wink. The how come >> the installer doesnt detect/see them? >> >> -- Update: >> >> Tried with --nodeps and it installed (obviously), but on run it says: >> >> [root@san01 ~]# hpacucli /opt/compaq/hpacucli/bld/.hpacucli: error while >> loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared >> object file: No such file or directory >> >> and indeed, find / -name libstdc++-libc6* only finds >> >> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Last edited by padonker (2007-08-08 11:24:34) >> >> >> 1. 7 Yesterday 14:54:54 >> >> >> litkaj >> >> Moderator >> >> Re: HP MSA hardware on OF? >> >> Sorry, I don't know what package would have the needed file. You might >> want to try contacting rPath directly as they would have a better idea >> as to how to go about installing something like this on their platform. >> Jason Litka Utter Ramblings >> >> _______________________________________________ >> distro-list mailing list >> distro-list@lists.rpath.com >> http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Sep 28 11:48:25 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8SFmPVr004524 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20070928154403H020009q6ae>; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:44:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0063617FACC for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 19918-02 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 824AF17FACD; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:44:02 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Updateall Message-ID: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:48:25 -0000 Folks, I just did something that I may have seen before, but it is a while, so I don't remember what the answer might have been. I just did "conary updateall" and was told that there were no new troves. I then did "conary update conary" and was updated from 1.1.34 to 1.2.0. Why was this not done as part of the updateall? Thanks, Brian From msw@rpath.com Fri Sep 28 12:21:53 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8SGLqHI004799 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:21:53 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l8SGHVMD021123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:17:32 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l8SGHNXv002644 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:17:23 -0400 Received: (from msw@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l8SGHNXE002643 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:17:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:17:23 -0400 From: Matt Wilson To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Updateall Message-ID: <20070928161723.GB2520@rpath.com> References: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:21:53 -0000 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:44:02AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > Folks, > > I just did something that I may have seen before, but it is a while, so > I don't remember what the answer might have been. > > > I just did "conary updateall" and was told that there were no new > troves. I then did "conary update conary" and was updated from 1.1.34 > to 1.2.0. Why was this not done as part of the updateall? It's possible you currently have a group installed that has no compatible flavor in the repository. Run: conary q --full-versions --flavors | grep ^group- and let us know what you have installed. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Wilson rPath, Inc. msw@rpath.com From jtate@rpath.com Fri Sep 28 12:31:18 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8SGVIen004898 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:31:18 -0400 Received: from hambone.rdu.rpath.com (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l8SGQohD021819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:50 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Updateall Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709281226.52215.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:31:19 -0000 Updateall is according to top level troves. If you have a group (group-dist) that has conary referenced, then you will only update to the conary version referenced in the group. Now that you updated conary separately, the group's reference to group-dist is broken, and updateall will now function similarly to "conary update group-dist conary". On Friday 28 September 2007 11:44:02 Brian McCullough wrote: > Folks, > > I just did something that I may have seen before, but it is a while, so > I don't remember what the answer might have been. > > > I just did "conary updateall" and was told that there were no new > troves. I then did "conary update conary" and was updated from 1.1.34 > to 1.2.0. Why was this not done as part of the updateall? > > > Thanks, > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc. http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ (919) 851-3984 x2106 From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Sep 28 13:10:08 2007 Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8SHA8XF005280 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:10:08 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20070928170546H0400fbrcte>; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78FA17FABC for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 20480-01-3 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id D5D7E17FACC; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:05:44 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Updateall Message-ID: <20070928170544.GA20494@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> <20070928161723.GB2520@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070928161723.GB2520@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:10:09 -0000 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 12:17:23PM -0400, Matt Wilson wrote: > > It's possible you currently have a group installed that has no > compatible flavor in the repository. Run: > > conary q --full-versions --flavors | grep ^group- > > and let us know what you have installed. Thanks Matt. If I re-ran the updateall, would that corrupt this output? group-base=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-compat32=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-core=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-devel=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-dist=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-dist-base=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-dist-extras=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] 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group-kde=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-netserver=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] group-xorg=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1/1.0.7-0.4-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe,X,~!alternatives,~!bootstrap,~buildtests,desktop,~!dietlibc,~!dom0,~!domU,emacs,gcj,~glibc.tls,gnome,~grub.static,gtk,ipv6,kde,~!kernel.debug,~kernel.debugdata,~!kernel.numa,~!kernel.pae,krb,ldap,nptl,~!openssh.smartcard,~!openssh.static_libcrypto,pam,pcre,perl,~!pie,~!postfix.mysql,python,qt,readline,sasl,~!selinux,~sqlite.threadsafe,ssl,tcl,tcpwrappers,tk,~!vmware,~!xen,~!xorg-x11.xprint is: x86(i486,i586,i686,~!sse2) x86_64] From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Sep 28 13:11:11 2007 Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8SHBBbS005317 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:11:11 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20070928170650H05006qpm8e>; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:06:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA25F17FABC for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 20480-01-7 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4AA5717FACC; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:06:49 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Updateall Message-ID: <20070928170649.GB20494@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20070928154402.GA19973@bdmcc-us.com> <20070928161723.GB2520@rpath.com> <20070928170544.GA20494@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070928170544.GA20494@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:11:12 -0000 I will try and reproduce the effect on other machines as I update. From karlo@allsaintsfan.com Tue Oct 2 20:10:41 2007 Received: from freeproblem.com ([41.201.249.219]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l930AYBb003907 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:36 -0400 Received: from allsaintsfan.com (allsaintsfan-com-bk.mr.outblaze.com [64.62.181.94]) by freeproblem.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB1A0181B for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:10:55 -0200 Message-ID: <101001c805a5$e1937b34$ad0883df@allsaintsfan.com> From: "VIZA" To: Distro Subject: =?windows-1251?B?W1Z8c2EtU0VSVklDRV0gKDQ5NSk3ODQtNjI4Nijs7S4p?= Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:10:55 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id l930AYBb003907 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, Dave Jones List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:10:41 -0000 Distro, ðàíåå îáñóæäàëè ñ Âàìè Ýêñïðåññ ÂÈÇÎÂÛÉ ñåðâèñ ïðåäëàãàåò: Îôîðìëåíèå âèç ã-íàì ÐÔ è ÑÍÃ, ïðèãëàøåíèé èíîñòðàííûì ã-íàì - çà 1 äåíü! 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(çà 1 ðàáî÷èé äåíü) òóðèçì , áèçíåñ - òåëåêñ, îðèãèíàëû ïðèãë. Âû ìîæåòå ïîëó÷èòü êîíñóëüòàöèþ ïî âèçîâûì âîïðîñàì ó íàøèõ ìåíåäæåðîâ ïî òåë.: òåë. /ôàêñ: 784-6286 (ìí), 784-6283 Ðîáêî ìåñÿö ñìîòðèò â î÷è,,È îò íèâû è äî íèâû ß æäó... Òåìíî-ñèíåå íåáî,Ëèøü íà ìèã ñìåæàåò íåáî È â ìåëêèõ è â êðóïíûõ çâåçäàõ, From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Oct 10 13:37:14 2007 Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9AHbDgN024457 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:37:14 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20071010173245H0300cj56oe>; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:32:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D1817F2EC; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 26948-04-3; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id DCC4917FABB; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:32:43 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Migrate Message-ID: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 Cc: conar@bdmcc-us.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:37:15 -0000 Folks, A tale of woe, and a request for guidance. ( can my machine be salvaged? ) A couple of months ago, I was noticing that there wasn't much to update whenever I did "conary updateall" on my Thinkpad, loaded with the Orleans "sub-distro" of rPath. I had chosen that because at the time, it was the only version of rPath that would even look at my machine, low memory, small disk, and all. However, I asked what was going on, and was told that Orleans was mostly dormant, and the recommendation was that I issue "conary migrate --interactive group-dist=foresight.rpath.org@fl:1", since it was the recommended "best" alternative for me. I delayed doing the migration, until last week, when I cleaned up as much disk space as possible ( anticipating the need for working space ), and started the migrate. It started as I expected, and asked me if I wanted to continue. I said "yes" and got a command prompt back within the hour. That seemed a bit odd, so I checked with a "conary q --full-versions", and saw that, as far as I could see, nothing had happened. The next time that I issued the migrate command, it complained that pygobjects was missing some pieces, and, when I tried to install them, that they conflicted with pygtk. Eventually, I got those straightened out, and restarted the migration, and this time, after the question, it told me that it had 999 ( !! ) jobs to do, and went on its merry way. This crashed a couple of times, due to lack of disk space, but i was able to recover some more space each time, and things seemed to continue. However, this last time, it complains that various files have "changed type" and refuses to continue. I looked at one at random, and it is a soft link to another executable file. I also find that various libraries are missing, and the machine is almost, but not quite, unusable. ( A lot of functionality still seems to work, but, for instance, I can not connect wirelessly, although I can see the access point. I haven't got the "wired" card plugged in yet, but will try. ) Questions: Would a "conary revert" do anything useful? Would loading an install disk, say Foresight, be able to do an Upgrade instead of an Install? Can this machine be recovered, or is it reformat time? Thank you, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Oct 10 14:08:01 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9AI809C024909 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:08:00 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9AI3YPp009825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:03:34 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9AI2oIu004018 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:02:51 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9AI2oNt004017 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:02:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:02:50 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:08:01 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > Would a "conary revert" do anything useful? Not likely. There's a possibility that you could roll back, but also a possibility that fixups you did along the way will invalidate the rollback stack. > Would loading an install disk, say Foresight, be able to do an Upgrade > instead of an Install? No, it wouldn't. However, if you have separate partitions for data you want to preserve, you could reinstall and keep those partitions. > Can this machine be recovered, or is it reformat time? I'm sure it's possible given sufficient time and knowledge, but it might well take more time and effort than it is worth. If I had a machine in a similar situation, I'd probably back up and reinstall. For context, I did something rather like this recently -- I had a very old installation that I wanted to migrate to a completely different appliance. I had hacked at the very old installation when I'd first built it, and not touched it since. I was successful in migrating, though it took multiple fixups and restarts because I had made changes outside of Conary as quick hacks while I was first experimenting with the system. I did a backup of all critical data before starting that migrate, because I knew that the system was not entirely consistent to start with, and did not know how much trouble I'd have in the migration process. It happened that I didn't need the backup, but I didn't start with that assumption. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Oct 10 15:23:48 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9AJNluH026179 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:23:48 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20071010191918H020009466e>; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:19:18 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0B717F47A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 27477-04 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1502017FABB; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:19:15 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:23:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 02:02:50PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Would a "conary revert" do anything useful? > > Not likely. There's a possibility that you could roll back, but > also a possibility that fixups you did along the way will invalidate > the rollback stack. I didn't even think about a rollback. I did see the "revert" command which seemed to imply that it was for corrupted databases. About all that I did along the way was to do "conary erase" for openoffice.org, which is far too big to live on my machine. Of course, the next time that I issued the migrate command, it was immediately replaced. > > > Would loading an install disk, say Foresight, be able to do an Upgrade > > instead of an Install? > > No, it wouldn't. I guess where I was going was something that I think _should_ be possible -- assign the disks appropriately, and then "don't format". In general I don't care about much of the executable content of the drive, just the configuration is going to be a pain to recreate. > However, if you have separate partitions for data you want to preserve, > you could reinstall and keep those partitions. /home is about all that is separate on that machine. With about 2.5G drive space outside of 1 G home and 0.5G swap, there isn't much space to get fancy. > For context, I did something rather like this recently -- I had a > very old installation that I wanted to migrate to a completely > different appliance. I had hacked at the very old installation > when I'd first built it, and not touched it since. I was successful > in migrating, though it took multiple fixups and restarts because > I had made changes outside of Conary as quick hacks while I was > first experimenting with the system. I did a backup of all > critical data before starting that migrate, because I knew that > the system was not entirely consistent to start with, and did not > know how much trouble I'd have in the migration process. It > happened that I didn't need the backup, but I didn't start with > that assumption. I don't think that I have done much hacking outside of the Orleans environment except building a trove or two to add to the repository ( I know, that's still inside the environemnt ) -- perhaps added a couple of programs from source that weren't available in rPath. ( Because of resources, I run IcwWM on this machine, which is one of the troves that I added to Orleans. ) I actually _did_ prepare this time, by copying the total contents of the system to space on another machine in my network. It's just that having everything on one partition ( NOT my preferred mode on "normal" machines ), there is too much to damage. By "Upgrade," I suppose that I was thinking "overwrite and start again," because I expect that the conarydb and anything else that reminds the machine of Orleans would be completely overwritten. Of course, some of those configuration files live in /etc and have the same names as what is coming in, but.... Is this perhaps less destructive, but almost as successful, as reformatting? Thanks, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Oct 10 21:35:48 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9B1Zmto030117 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:35:48 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9B1VM44020476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:31:22 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9B1UbXf008809 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:30:37 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9B1Ub7V008808 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:30:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:30:37 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:35:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:19:15PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > I actually _did_ prepare this time, by copying the total contents of the > system to space on another machine in my network. :) > It's just that having everything on one partition ( NOT my preferred > mode on "normal" machines ), there is too much to damage. > > By "Upgrade," I suppose that I was thinking "overwrite and start again," > because I expect that the conarydb and anything else that reminds the > machine of Orleans would be completely overwritten. Of course, some of > those configuration files live in /etc and have the same names as what > is coming in, but.... Is this perhaps less destructive, but almost as > successful, as reformatting? Strangely enough, I'm right this minute in the process of reinstalling two machines where I want to preserve some configuration. My procedure is to leave the /home partition untouched, copy /etc to /home/etc for easily-accessible access to configuration data (like /etc/passwd, etc), and keep copies of /var/log/conary and /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb for later reference, then reinstall including a reformat. YMMV, of course, yadda yadda. An upcoming feature that you might find interesting is the "appliance installer" -- basically, using anaconda (text or gui) to install a arball of a pre-installed system -- much, much faster, and should use much less memory during the install. That feature will become available with rPath Linux 2. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Oct 11 03:00:48 2007 Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9B70mbv032511 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:00:48 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20071011065621H0100a2hnde>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:56:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB3617F315 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 12977-05 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0C3C917FAC9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:56:20 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:00:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:30:37PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > Strangely enough, I'm right this minute in the process of reinstalling > two machines where I want to preserve some configuration. > > My procedure is to leave the /home partition untouched, copy /etc to > /home/etc for easily-accessible access to configuration data (like > /etc/passwd, etc), and keep copies of /var/log/conary and > /var/lib/conarydb/conarydb for later reference, then reinstall > including a reformat. This is, basically, what I have wound up doing. ( I saved /etc locally, but the other two are only on that second machine. ) However, I seem to have found, again, that anaconda is the weak link in this process. I tried Foresight, but it gives NO ability to choose packages, and so started off trying to fill my drive with everything that it could think of. ( Incidentally, I was wrong. I have 3.5 G available! ) I then looked through RBuilder for "minimal" and "laptop" distributions. I tried "linmin" because it seemed to be the newest and most appropriate build, but it crashes with an Anaconda error about the time that the kernel is installed. ( about the second file! ) After all of this searching, and discovering that some of my newer install disks have read errors, I have gone back to a Christmas edition of Orleans ( 1.3 ) and am installing now. Once I have that installed, I might try a migrate to rPath instead of Foresight. I don't know whether I will have any better success with that, but I can hope. Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Oct 11 03:24:25 2007 Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9B7OPpR000388 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:24:25 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20071011071958H05006g80je>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:19:58 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AAF17F315 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 13187-02-2 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 60A2E17FAC9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:19:57 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071011071957.GA13245@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:24:25 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:56:20AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > This is, basically, what I have wound up doing. ( I saved /etc locally, > but the other two are only on that second machine. ) However, I seem to > have found, again, that anaconda is the weak link in this process. > > After all of this searching, and discovering that some of my newer > install disks have read errors, I have gone back to a Christmas edition > of Orleans ( 1.3 ) and am installing now. Once I have that installed, I > might try a migrate to rPath instead of Foresight. I don't know whether > I will have any better success with that, but I can hope. Nope. Anaconda crashed about a third of the way through. B P.S. How do I build a "driver disk?" One of my attempts, I tried a "boot" disk, and attempted to install over the network, but found that my pcmcia network card was not recognized by the boot disk. B-( From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Oct 11 19:16:05 2007 Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9BNG5Ex011428 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:16:05 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20071011231137H0300c6uhhe>; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:11:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CAA17F315 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 17893-07 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id EADDC17FAC9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:11:35 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Driver Disk for Anaconda Message-ID: <20071011231135.GA18175@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:16:05 -0000 Folks, I am trying to use an NFS-mounted ISO as the install media for a machine in my network. I have, of course mounted and exported the ISO, downloaded and burned the boot disk, and started the install by booting the disk. However, when it comes time to mount the NFS partition, the installer says that it can't find my network card. I have the appropriate kernel module in use in a different machine. Do I make use of the kernel module to make a Driver Disk for Anaconda, or what is the procedure for making that device usable? Thanks, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Thu Oct 11 20:15:45 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9C0Firq012019 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:15:44 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9C0BIvd007723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:11:18 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9C0AUSv021170 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:10:30 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9C0AU6u021168 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:10:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:10:30 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071012001030.GA21142@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:15:45 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:56:20AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > I tried Foresight, but it gives NO ability to choose packages, and so > started off trying to fill my drive with everything that it could think > of. ( Incidentally, I was wrong. I have 3.5 G available! ) That's migrate -- it's give me *exactly* the group specified, no more, no less. And the appliance installer will be the same. From jtate@rpath.com Thu Oct 11 21:06:31 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9C16VpI012529 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:06:31 -0400 Received: from tate252.dragonstrider.com (cpe-071-065-250-133.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.250.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9C123vp011531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:02:04 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Driver Disk for Anaconda Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:02:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071011231135.GA18175@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20071011231135.GA18175@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710112102.03920.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:06:31 -0000 I'm not sure what the exact disk format is, but you need a module .ko file for the exact kernel used by the ISO installer. On Thursday 11 October 2007 19:11:35 Brian McCullough wrote: > Folks, > > I am trying to use an NFS-mounted ISO as the install media for a machine > in my network. > > I have, of course mounted and exported the ISO, downloaded and burned > the boot disk, and started the install by booting the disk. However, > when it comes time to mount the NFS partition, the installer says that > it can't find my network card. I have the appropriate kernel module in > use in a different machine. Do I make use of the kernel module to make > a Driver Disk for Anaconda, or what is the procedure for making that > device usable? > > > Thanks, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc. http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ (919) 851-3984 x2106 From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Oct 12 07:33:24 2007 Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CBXNb6018903 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:33:23 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20071012112856H0100a0laie>; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:28:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81CE17FA91 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 03863-06 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.11.2] (unknown [192.168.1.239]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8F17F315 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <470F59FE.8040009@bdmcc-us.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:26:54 -0400 From: Brian McCullough User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070601 SeaMonkey/1.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071010180250.GA3858@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071010191915.GA27572@bdmcc-us.com> <20071011013037.GA8756@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071011065620.GA13080@bdmcc-us.com> <20071012001030.GA21142@logo.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20071012001030.GA21142@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:33:24 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:56:20AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: >> I tried Foresight, but it gives NO ability to choose packages, and so >> started off trying to fill my drive with everything that it could think >> of. ( Incidentally, I was wrong. I have 3.5 G available! ) > > That's migrate -- it's give me *exactly* the group specified, no > more, no less. And the appliance installer will be the same. I think this is what you said, but I was using the install CD, which, unlike some of the install CDs, didn't ask if I wanted to choose packages. Brian From jtate@rpath.com Fri Oct 12 08:47:06 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CCl6kS020021 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:47:06 -0400 Received: from hambone.rdu.rpath.com (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9CCgcwj026007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:42:39 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:42:38 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071012001030.GA21142@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <470F59FE.8040009@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <470F59FE.8040009@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710120842.38773.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:47:06 -0000 On Friday 12 October 2007 07:26:54 Brian McCullough wrote: > > I think this is what you said, but I was using the install CD, which, > unlike some of the install CDs, didn't ask if I wanted to choose packages. > Foresight has disabled package selection for their install CDs. I think you either need to build your own distro, or install an rPath Linux minimal install, and then add the stuff you need as updates, not migrates. It's kind of fun to build your own, and as long as you're not maintaining a lot of packages yourself, actually quite reasonable to do. Joseph From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Oct 12 09:30:39 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CDUcGU020482 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:30:38 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20071012132609H02000b0cce>; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:26:11 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A52017FABB for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 04699-01 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.11.2] (unknown [192.168.1.239]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017D017F315 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <470F7578.6020908@bdmcc-us.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:24:08 -0400 From: Brian McCullough User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070601 SeaMonkey/1.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <20071012001030.GA21142@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <470F59FE.8040009@bdmcc-us.com> <200710120842.38773.jtate@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <200710120842.38773.jtate@rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:30:39 -0000 Joseph Tate wrote: > On Friday 12 October 2007 07:26:54 Brian McCullough wrote: >> I think this is what you said, but I was using the install CD, which, >> unlike some of the install CDs, didn't ask if I wanted to choose packages. > > Foresight has disabled package selection for their install CDs. I think you > either need to build your own distro, or install an rPath Linux minimal > install, and then add the stuff you need as updates, not migrates. > > It's kind of fun to build your own, and as long as you're not maintaining a > lot of packages yourself, actually quite reasonable to do. That's what I've done for a template for my Xen servers, but I haven't tried to do an installable distro. That's why I have been a fan of, and user of, Orleans for this machine. It was the right size, after fighting Anaconda to get it installed, and worked well for me. In light of my driver disk question, would it be possible to build a boot image ( boot.iso ), or an installable disk image that had appropriate drivers for my hardware? I'm not sure whether my Anaconda issues are a LOT of badly-written CDs, or conflicts with my hardware ( or lack thereof ) but I would like to be able to explore both options. On another note, Joseph, I'm fairly familiar with using my own template for my Xen servers, but want to confirm what I would do with my own distro for the laptop. On the Xen machine, I have my own group-dist, and then add things like Postfix or Apache or PostgreSQL from things like rPath and Contrib and LAMP piecemeal. Is that the way that I would do it for the laptop? The final result would be a combination of pieces from various places? Thanks, Brian From jtate@rpath.com Fri Oct 12 10:01:11 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CE1B9H020965 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:01:11 -0400 Received: from hambone.rdu.rpath.com (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9CDuiaJ000972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:56:44 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:56:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <200710120842.38773.jtate@rpath.com> <470F7578.6020908@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <470F7578.6020908@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710120956.44298.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:01:12 -0000 On Friday 12 October 2007 09:24:08 Brian McCullough wrote: > Joseph Tate wrote: > > On Friday 12 October 2007 07:26:54 Brian McCullough wrote: > >> I think this is what you said, but I was using the install CD, which, > >> unlike some of the install CDs, didn't ask if I wanted to choose > >> packages. > > > > Foresight has disabled package selection for their install CDs. I think > > you either need to build your own distro, or install an rPath Linux > > minimal install, and then add the stuff you need as updates, not > > migrates. > > > > It's kind of fun to build your own, and as long as you're not maintaining > > a lot of packages yourself, actually quite reasonable to do. > > That's what I've done for a template for my Xen servers, but I haven't > tried to do an installable distro. That's why I have been a fan of, and > user of, Orleans for this machine. It was the right size, after > fighting Anaconda to get it installed, and worked well for me. > > In light of my driver disk question, would it be possible to build a > boot image ( boot.iso ), or an installable disk image that had > appropriate drivers for my hardware? I'm not sure whether my Anaconda > issues are a LOT of badly-written CDs, or conflicts with my hardware ( > or lack thereof ) but I would like to be able to explore both options. Anaconda works most of the time, but when it fails, the results are catastrophic. > On another note, Joseph, I'm fairly familiar with using my own template > for my Xen servers, but want to confirm what I would do with my own > distro for the laptop. On the Xen machine, I have my own group-dist, > and then add things like Postfix or Apache or PostgreSQL from things > like rPath and Contrib and LAMP piecemeal. Is that the way that I would > do it for the laptop? The final result would be a combination of pieces > from various places? > Exactly. You could even shadow the orleans group recipe and start from that. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Oct 12 10:50:46 2007 Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CEokub021550 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:50:46 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20071012144618H0300cl283e>; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:46:18 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E09517FA91 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 04943-06 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id DB1C217FABB; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Message-ID: <20071012144617.GA5140@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <200710120842.38773.jtate@rpath.com> <470F7578.6020908@bdmcc-us.com> <200710120956.44298.jtate@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200710120956.44298.jtate@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:50:46 -0000 On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:56:44AM -0400, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > On another note, Joseph, I'm fairly familiar with using my own template > > for my Xen servers, but want to confirm what I would do with my own > > distro for the laptop. On the Xen machine, I have my own group-dist, > > and then add things like Postfix or Apache or PostgreSQL from things > > like rPath and Contrib and LAMP piecemeal. Is that the way that I would > > do it for the laptop? The final result would be a combination of pieces > > from various places? > > > > Exactly. You could even shadow the orleans group recipe and start from that. Finally (??), if I remember correctly, I would need to start another "project" in rBuilder to be able to create something for my laptop that was not the same as the Xen template that I have already done, correct? B-) From jtate@rpath.com Fri Oct 12 11:46:47 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CFkle1022155 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from hambone.rdu.rpath.com (hambone.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9CFgJqk011621 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:20 -0400 From: Joseph Tate Organization: rPath Inc To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Migrate Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071010173243.GA26983@bdmcc-us.com> <200710120956.44298.jtate@rpath.com> <20071012144617.GA5140@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20071012144617.GA5140@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710121142.19449.jtate@rpath.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:46:47 -0000 On Friday 12 October 2007 10:46:17 Brian McCullough wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:56:44AM -0400, Joseph Tate wrote: > > > On another note, Joseph, I'm fairly familiar with using my own template > > > for my Xen servers, but want to confirm what I would do with my own > > > distro for the laptop. On the Xen machine, I have my own group-dist, > > > and then add things like Postfix or Apache or PostgreSQL from things > > > like rPath and Contrib and LAMP piecemeal. Is that the way that I > > > would do it for the laptop? The final result would be a combination of > > > pieces from various places? > > > > Exactly. You could even shadow the orleans group recipe and start from > > that. > > Finally (??), if I remember correctly, I would need to start another > "project" in rBuilder to be able to create something for my laptop that > was not the same as the Xen template that I have already done, correct? > > > B-) > Starting a new project would probably be easier. -- Joseph Tate Software Engineer rPath Inc. http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ (919) 851-3984 x2106 From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Oct 12 18:41:48 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9CMfl64025851; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:41:47 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9CMbJ9a015848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:37:19 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9CMaT40017502; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:36:29 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9CMaTBb017501; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:36:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:36:29 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1.0.7 available for x86 and x86_64 Message-ID: <20071012223629.GA17335@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:41:48 -0000 rPath Linux, the first Linux distribution built using the groundbreaking Conary software management system, has released updated images for rPath Linux 1. The new images incorporate updates to the installation process and all package updates released as of September 26, 2007. In particular, the installation images and installed system now include a 2.6.22.7 Linux kernel, enabling installation on more recent hardware not supported by previous installation media. (Linux kernels for Xen support are 2.6.16.33 in this release.) If you have already installed rPath Linux 1, you should update your current system using Conary rather than reinstall using the new images. For information on managing Conary-based systems, see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary:QuickReference The 32-bit Xen domU image contains two kernels. One supports older Xen dom0 hosts with kernels that do not include PAE support. The other supports newer Xen dom0 hosts that do include PAE support. If you experience a boot failure in that domU image, select the other kernel. For more information on Xen domU support, please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Xen_DomU_Guide Where can I get it? =================== The new images are available via HTTP and BitTorrent from: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=5839 What is rPath Linux? ==================== rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/. rPath Linux is also a fully functioning Linux distribution in its own right. Installing rPath Linux is the easiest way to get familiar with using Conary to manage software and systems. rPath offers formal support to customers who use rPath Linux to build software appliances. How do I get involved? ====================== E-Mail: o rPath invites anyone interested in rPath Linux and Conary to join the distro-list@lists.rpath.com mailing list. The list carries announcements, discussion, and informal support. Chat: o rPath Linux developers and community contributors often use the #conary IRC channel on irc.freenode.org for real-time communication. Bug Reports and Feature Requests: o You can create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. rPath Linux 1 Release Notes Release 1.0.7 Welcome to rPath Linux! rPath Linux is a freely-available Linux operating system distribution, built with the Conary distributed software management system, supported and maintained by rPath, Inc. The rPath Linux distribution contains high-quality, up-to-date software, and is the base development platform for creating software appliances and purpose-built distributions using the rBuilder Online tool at http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/ Hardware Requirements x86: i686-class processor (i586 and earlier are not supported) x86_64: all AMD64 and EM64T processors are supported Hardware platform supported by the Linux kernel 2.6.22.7. For Xen domU (guest system) images, Xen 3.0.3 dom0 (hypervisor domain) platforms, such as the rPath Linux 1.0.7 dom0 implementation. For Xen dom0 (host system) images, hardware platform supported by Linux kernel 2.6.16.33 with Xen support. Installation from CD/DVD images requires 256 MB RAM on the x86 architecture, and 512 MB RAM on the x86_64 architecture. The graphical installation process will run faster with 512 MB. Run-time memory requirements depend entirely on the software being run. 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From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Oct 16 21:55:40 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9H1tdPi023870; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:55:39 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9H1pA4x021271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:51:10 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9H1o8ju003534; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:50:08 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9H1o8Ua003533; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:50:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:50:08 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: Update Announcement Enhancements Message-ID: <20071017015008.GA3387@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:55:40 -0000 Starting with the next update to rPath Linux, email summaries of changes based on group versions, providing changes in trove contents and related advisory identifiers, will be mailed to theo rPath Linux update announcement list update-announce@lists.rpath.com These summaries will be in addition to the existing advisory email messages. The summaries will also be added to the official rPath wiki. For rPath Linux 1, you can see summaries linked from at list at http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPath_Linux_1_Changes All the rPath Linux update announcements are now available on the official rPath wiki. They are available by identifier: http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories: For example: http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPUA-2007-0208 http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPSA-2007-0204 From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Oct 17 15:41:02 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9HJf2xT003208 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:41:02 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9HJaXNk022441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:36:33 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l9HJZTMm011557 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:35:29 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id l9HJZSjK011556 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:35:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:35:28 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2 Alpha 4 Message-ID: <20071017193528.GA11333@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:41:02 -0000 The fourth development snapshot in the rPath Linux 2 Alpha release process has been made available. It is very different from all previous snapshots. o It has been trimmed down into a smaller, more focused, better base for appliances: smaller kernel, smaller group of core software for an installed system. o It is available in our new "appliance installer" format, in which package selection is not enabled and installation is much faster and requires much less memory. The classical installer format is called "Installable CD/DVD"; the new "appliance installer" format is called "Appliance Installable ISO". o It has a new compiler and toolchain, and has been completely rebuilt from source using the rMake build tool o It includes boot splash capability using the splashy boot splash tool. (It can be disabled by editing grub.conf and removing the "splash" and "vga=" options from the kernel boot line.) In addition, it includes newer versions of many included software components. Because so much software was removed and the distribution restructured, an update from previous alpha snapshots is not highly meaningful. We recommend new installs for rPath Linux 2 alpha 4. If you are looking for a desktop operating system based on Conary technology, we recommend Foresight Linux: http://foresightlinux.org/ If you are interested in alpha- and beta-testing a new distribution based on the technology in rPath Linux 2 alpha 4, we suggest that you join Foresight Linux 2 development. Contact Foresight Linux developers on the #foresight and #foresight-devel channels on irc.freenode.net to discuss this testing. If you are not yet familiar with rPath Linux or the Conary technology, we recommend that you use our supported and maintained rPath Linux 1 product to become familiar with both technologies before experiencing this alpha development snapshot. rPath Linux 1 information is available at http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_1 Please see http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_2 for a description of the release process and technology targets for rPath Linux 2. To download any of the images, please visit rBuilder Online: http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpl-devel/release?id=5847 There are many known issues in this snapshot. You can view the rPath Linux 2 and rPath Linux Development versions from https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL to see what issues apply. o Absolutely do not use these images for any productions uses. We will be making major organizational changes. Updates may not work cleanly. Expect to re-install rather than update from time to time. Some tag scripts may not function. Do not use it in any case in which prolonged instances of software failure, or destruction or loss of data, will inconvenience you. o We strongly encourage you to file issues in the rPath Issue Tracking System by visiting https://issues.rpath.com/ -- but please search first to see if the issue has already been reported. o This is a new version of the anaconda installer; please exercise different code paths and options and report issues. Be aware that installation may require 256MB on x86 and 512MB on x86_64 in the classical installer. If you have minimal memory available, the "appliance installer" does not have package selection enabled, uses much less memory, and will be much faster. o Several issues are known in the installation process. Among them are: In GUI mode package selection, if all components of a package are unselected the package remains selected. This is just a display bug, the backend actually unselects the package. (RPL-1187) Installation progress display only goes to 50% for installable ISO images (not appliance installer images). This is a display problem only. (RPL-1836) Installation cannot be done via VNC. (RPL-1474) We would like to encourage testers to join the #conary channel on irc.freenode.net to discuss this testing. Additionally, posts to distro-list@lists.rpath.com are welcome. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Nov 9 10:43:45 2007 Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9FhixP031538 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:43:44 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20071109153904H0400k6vege>; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:39:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB4D17F98B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 08738-03-2 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5BC5817FAA2; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:39:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:39:03 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Error message Message-ID: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:43:45 -0000 Folks, I am getting an error message from "conary update" that I have seen before, but have never asked about an interpretation. Since I don't really understand what it is trying to tell me ( version wise particularly ), would somebody explain to me what I should look for? I presume that it is telling me that I need a different version of libc.so.6 ( trove glibc ), but which version? The message is: The following dependencies could not be resolved: db:lib=4.5.20-12-6: soname: ELF64/libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5 GLIBC_2.3 GLIBC_2.3.4 GLIBC_2.4 SysV x86_64) perl:lib=5.8.8-12-1: soname: ELF64/libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5 GLIBC_2.3 GLIBC_2.3.4 GLIBC_2.4 SysV x86_64) perl:runtime=5.8.8-12-1: soname: ELF64/libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5 GLIBC_2.3.2 GLIBC_2.3.4 GLIBC_2.4 SysV x86_64) Thanks, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Nov 9 12:09:51 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9H9pfZ000802 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:09:51 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lA9H5BnZ005713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:05:11 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lA9H5Bv9021270 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:05:11 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id lA9H5Brl021269 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:05:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:05:11 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:09:51 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:39:03AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I am getting an error message from "conary update" that I have seen > before, but have never asked about an interpretation. Since I don't > really understand what it is trying to tell me ( version wise > particularly ), would somebody explain to me what I should look for? Exactly what command are you running? Can't just be "conary update" since that would give you a usage message. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Nov 9 13:35:40 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9IZdXk001848 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:35:40 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20071109183059H020007e1me>; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:30:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD7D17F842 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 09525-05-3 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0D42E17FAA2; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:30:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:30:58 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:35:40 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:39:03AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > I am getting an error message from "conary update" that I have seen > > before, but have never asked about an interpretation. Since I don't > > really understand what it is trying to tell me ( version wise > > particularly ), would somebody explain to me what I should look for? > > Exactly what command are you running? Can't just be "conary update" > since that would give you a usage message. No, you're right. I have seen similar messages for various updates, and so was trying to ask a generic question regarding the message, rather than the exact circumstances of this update. I would need to spend a little time to retrieve the exact syntax, but the command was ( mostly? ) conary update perl=5.8.8xxx I tried a conary updateall a day or two ago, and got conflicts in Perl, saying the there were problems with the "*.so" files in /usr/lib64/perl5/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/... and it wouldn't update Perl. I have not touched that machine manually in quite a long time, just doing "conary update conary" and "conary updateall" every couple of weeks, and now this happens. I tried to update things manually after this failure, erasing perl:devel and updating perl-IO, and then trying to move from 5.8.7 which is what seems to be installed, to 5.8.8 which seems to be what's current in the repository, and got this message. Nothing has changed in the system, Perl is still at 5.8.7, but various things fail, such as CPAN and logwatch. It is starting to appear that I want to try and force a re-install of perl:lib, to rewrite any of these files that are missing or corrupted. Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Nov 9 13:39:22 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9IdLlI001901 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:39:22 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20071109183442H02000bdm5e>; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:34:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CE617F842 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 09726-02 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 17BC817FAA2; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:41 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109183441.GC9493@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:39:22 -0000 Incidentally, this is an rPath Linux 1.x ( I don't remember exactly which version I used for the install ( 1.0.4 perhaps ) X86_64 machine. Brian From ken@rpath.com Fri Nov 9 13:56:01 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9Iu1aA002198 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:56:01 -0500 Received: from [172.16.59.191] (dhcp191.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.59.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lA9IpLau011701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:51:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Error message From: Ken VanDine To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com In-Reply-To: <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:51:21 -0500 Message-Id: <1194634281.3876.16.camel@dhcp191.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:56:01 -0000 I wouldn't force a reinstall... do a "conary verify perl" to see if things are corrupt, but I doubt that is the problem. --Ken On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:30 -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:39:03AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > > I am getting an error message from "conary update" that I have seen > > > before, but have never asked about an interpretation. Since I don't > > > really understand what it is trying to tell me ( version wise > > > particularly ), would somebody explain to me what I should look for? > > > > Exactly what command are you running? Can't just be "conary update" > > since that would give you a usage message. > > No, you're right. I have seen similar messages for various updates, and > so was trying to ask a generic question regarding the message, rather > than the exact circumstances of this update. > > > I would need to spend a little time to retrieve the exact syntax, but > the command was ( mostly? ) > > > conary update perl=5.8.8xxx > > > I tried a conary updateall a day or two ago, and got conflicts in Perl, > saying the there were problems with the "*.so" files in > /usr/lib64/perl5/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/... and it wouldn't update Perl. > > I have not touched that machine manually in quite a long time, just > doing "conary update conary" and "conary updateall" every couple of > weeks, and now this happens. I tried to update things manually after > this failure, erasing perl:devel and updating perl-IO, and then trying > to move from 5.8.7 which is what seems to be installed, to 5.8.8 which > seems to be what's current in the repository, and got this message. > Nothing has changed in the system, Perl is still at 5.8.7, but various > things fail, such as CPAN and logwatch. > > It is starting to appear that I want to try and force a re-install of > perl:lib, to rewrite any of these files that are missing or corrupted. > > > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Nov 9 14:22:10 2007 Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9JM9n7002929 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:22:09 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20071109191729H02000738ge>; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:17:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4523C17F98B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 09976-01-3 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id A7A4917FAA2; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:17:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:17:28 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109191728.GA9909@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <1194634281.3876.16.camel@dhcp191.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1194634281.3876.16.camel@dhcp191.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:22:10 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:51:21PM -0500, Ken VanDine wrote: > I wouldn't force a reinstall... do a "conary verify perl" to see if > things are corrupt, but I doubt that is the problem. Thank you, Ken. I hadn't encountered the verify command before. ( Didn't read the man page deeply enough, I guess. ) The result of that command starts out with several "Warnings," saying that file foo_or_bar.so is missing, all of them in /usr/lib64/perl5/..., as I described in my long message. It then goes on for quite a long list of entries showing "Mod" at the beginning of one line and "-->" at the beginning of the next. Those files seem to be divided somewhat equally between /usr/lib/perl5 and /usr/lib64/perl5, and every one mentioned seems to have both a different size and date. There are two "Update" lines, which I am interpreting to show the remote version and the local version of the two troves concerned, perl:lib and perl:runtime. The version strings appear to be "almost" equal, in that the version numbers themselves are identical for both remote and local. Since I have not touched perl:runtime at all, except as a part of conary update ( updateall ) activity, I find it very strange that although the versions seem to be the same between remote and local, the dates and sizes of the perl:runtime files in /usr/bin are all quite different. Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Nov 9 18:01:47 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9N1lRl005814 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:01:47 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lA9Mv78b025645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:57:07 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lA9Mv761030433 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:57:07 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id lA9Mv7Ya030432 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:57:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:57:07 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:01:47 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:30:58PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I would need to spend a little time to retrieve the exact syntax, but > the command was ( mostly? ) > > conary update perl=5.8.8xxx Well, that would mean you were trying to install from conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel which is not binary-compatible with your conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 system. Perl is at 5.8.7 in rpl:1, which is what you have. > I tried a conary updateall a day or two ago, and got conflicts in Perl, > saying the there were problems with the "*.so" files in > /usr/lib64/perl5/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/... and it wouldn't update Perl. > > I have not touched that machine manually in quite a long time, just > doing "conary update conary" and "conary updateall" every couple of > weeks, and now this happens. I tried to update things manually after > this failure, erasing perl:devel and updating perl-IO, and then trying > to move from 5.8.7 which is what seems to be installed, to 5.8.8 which > seems to be what's current in the repository, and got this message. > Nothing has changed in the system, Perl is still at 5.8.7, but various > things fail, such as CPAN and logwatch. > > It is starting to appear that I want to try and force a re-install of > perl:lib, to rewrite any of these files that are missing or corrupted. I'm wondering if you got pieces of perl from :devel on your system at some point... Yes, I'd agree that this is what you want to do. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Nov 9 18:14:19 2007 Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA9NEJIP005954 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:14:19 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20071109230938H0300m6eice>; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:09:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE98317F98B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 10972-05 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5143917FAA2; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:09:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:09:37 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:14:19 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 05:57:07PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:30:58PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > Well, that would mean you were trying to install from > conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel which is not binary-compatible > with your conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 system. > > Perl is at 5.8.7 in rpl:1, which is what you have. > > > It is starting to appear that I want to try and force a re-install of > > perl:lib, to rewrite any of these files that are missing or corrupted. > > I'm wondering if you got pieces of perl from :devel on your system at > some point... What's odd is that when I do a "conary query --full-versions" on this system, is seems to say that my 5.8.7 Perl is from rpl:devel. I think that during my attempts to correct this before I encountered the libc.so.6 error, I did attempt to specify rpl:1 and was told that that version didn't exist. Looking at my conaryrc, it starts with rpl:1, but at the end of the list has rpl:devel. > Yes, I'd agree that this is what you want to do. It seems to be a bit labor-intensive, but do I want to do an inventory of this machine and then get out an install disk and start again? ( In case you are wondering, I really don't want the answer to this to be "yes." ) Thank you, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Nov 12 16:53:13 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACLrDxV026081 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:53:13 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lACLmWnF009919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:32 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lACLmWWf015791 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:32 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id lACLmV5c015790 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:31 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071112214831.GA15761@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:13 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:09:37PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > What's odd is that when I do a "conary query --full-versions" on this > system, is seems to say that my 5.8.7 Perl is from rpl:devel. I think > that during my attempts to correct this before I encountered the > libc.so.6 error, I did attempt to specify rpl:1 and was told that that > version didn't exist. > > Looking at my conaryrc, it starts with rpl:1, but at the end of the list > has rpl:devel. Either you added it yourself, or you started out with an alpha/beta version of the OS. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Nov 12 18:01:27 2007 Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACN1Q8s026920 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:01:26 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20071112225645H0300maevse>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:56:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D8A17FB15 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 13517-04 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 56AEF17FB16; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071112225644.GB13538@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> <20071112214831.GA15761@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071112214831.GA15761@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:01:27 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 04:48:31PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:09:37PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > What's odd is that when I do a "conary query --full-versions" on this > > system, is seems to say that my 5.8.7 Perl is from rpl:devel. I think > > that during my attempts to correct this before I encountered the > > libc.so.6 error, I did attempt to specify rpl:1 and was told that that > > version didn't exist. > > > > Looking at my conaryrc, it starts with rpl:1, but at the end of the list > > has rpl:devel. > > Either you added it yourself, or you started out with an alpha/beta > version of the OS. I agree. Don't remember when or why. However, thinking about this led me onto a side track. As a Perl user, I have also grown up using CPAN, and, lately, the "cpan" command-line version. In an rPath system, is this considered a "bad thing?" Thanks, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Nov 12 22:45:30 2007 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAD3jU8n031050 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lAD3enWs029920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:49 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lAD3em9S023855 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:48 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id lAD3emRm023854 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:48 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071113034048.GA23839@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> <20071112214831.GA15761@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071112225644.GB13538@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071112225644.GB13538@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:45:30 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 05:56:44PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I agree. Don't remember when or why. However, thinking about this led > me onto a side track. > > As a Perl user, I have also grown up using CPAN, and, lately, the "cpan" > command-line version. > > In an rPath system, is this considered a "bad thing?" Well, if you are using it as root to install cpan packages as system software, you will inevitably encounter the "dueling package manager" problem -- where Conary resolves some perl dependency by pulling in a conary package of a cpan package and tries to install it where you had already installed a cpan package directly (without conary knowing about it) on your system. We have CPANPackageRecipe specifically for making it easy to package up CPAN packages in Conary repositories, avoiding this problem. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 13 10:27:46 2007 Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lADFRkll007559 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:27:46 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20071113152132H0400kbo7fe>; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:21:33 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCEB17F817 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 00719-02-5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5984717FB16; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Error message Message-ID: <20071113152131.GA763@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20071109153903.GA8826@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109170511.GA21245@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109183058.GB9493@bdmcc-us.com> <20071109225707.GA30416@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071109230937.GA11133@bdmcc-us.com> <20071112214831.GA15761@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <20071112225644.GB13538@bdmcc-us.com> <20071113034048.GA23839@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113034048.GA23839@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:27:46 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:40:48PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 05:56:44PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > > > > In an rPath system, is this considered a "bad thing?" > > Well, if you are using it as root to install cpan packages as system > software, you will inevitably encounter the "dueling package manager" > problem -- where Conary resolves some perl dependency by pulling in > a conary package of a cpan package and tries to install it where you > had already installed a cpan package directly (without conary knowing > about it) on your system. That may have been what caused the initial reported errors during my updateall. I obviously haven't yet learned all of "The rPath Way!" I guess I need to start using rmake to build and install any items that I don't find in the repository, instead of simply installing from source or CPAN. Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Nov 13 10:35:19 2007 Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lADFZJjo007696 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:35:19 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20071113152956H0100covr4e>; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:29:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE5517F817 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 00723-02-9 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 470E617FB17; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:29:55 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Unable to use cvc cook or rmake Message-ID: <20071113152955.GB763@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:35:20 -0000 Apropos of a couple of other threads that I have been chasing recently, I have been trying to start another "distro", independent of the one that I have been using for my Xen clients, for laptop use. To do so, I have tried shadowing several different examples of "group-dist" from other items in the repository, one suggested by Joseph. I have tried editing the result to add or remove troves to better suit my uses, and, in fact, even tried to build the one that Joseph suggested unchanged. In every case, my cvc cook command results in a longer or shorter list of "trove not found" errors. I am trying to do test compiles of the .recipe file, not do a final build, so am using "cvc cook" rather than "rmake." I think I even tried to do an rmake and got the same result. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian From bloggerman08@yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 05:18:46 2008 Received: from n4a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com (n4a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.152]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m03AIjoJ018684 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 05:18:45 -0500 Received: from [217.12.4.215] by n4.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 10:13:41 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by t2.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 10:13:40 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.95] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 10:13:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 10:13:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 344089.4935.bm@omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 154 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2008 10:06:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=M5xu+0LRCbeClw+dBbYcUiy2a6dn4KxP9+JycNQqTkjd/ckAko23uvykFkB9XCfcUbwRMqzTE/yViFj3a56cHNok6C1mW+bIGgEVMQ7xAxIbjIW6wrp/B8kxK2wll0K5YzwjnRcG8VbZZK6f5fRB0X6AjxmTv+hvqSbSJyYwleM=; Received: from [78.96.175.216] by web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:06:59 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: Blogger Man Subject: The ticket clinic, How to Take Your Law Firm to the Next Level To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1846898752-1199354819=:98995" Message-ID: <896271.98995.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:18:46 -0000 --0-1846898752-1199354819=:98995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ticket clinic, How to Take Your Law Firm to the Next Level=0A=0AHow to = Take Your Law Firm to the Next Level=0A=0AThird in a series of three articl= es=0ASO you've done such a=0Agood job at bringing in new clients to your fi= rm that you're swamped=0Awith business, your firm is large and growing, and= all parts of your=0Amarketing system are in place and running smoothly? Co= ngratulations!=0AIf you can confidently answer "yes!" to the following metr= ics, then you're ready to take your practice to the next level:=0A=09Is you= r firm's mission perfectly aligned with your market?=0A=09Do your marketing= efforts create exactly the relationship your customers most want and need?= =0A=09Are your services well packaged, presented with a What's In It For Me= ? punch, and priced at various levels?=0A=09Do you know exactly where and h= ow to promote your firm's services?=0A=09Does your marketing system routine= ly and predictably create the kinds of new customers your business requires= ?=0AWhat=0Ahappens next in many successful firms, however, is not good news= ..=0AInstead of sticking with what's created success in the first place, the= =0Afocus shifts away from a marketing mindset. Instead of being an=0Aessent= ial lens through which people in your firm view their role,=0Amarketing as = an every-day focus fades from importance. After all, why=0Acontinue to inve= st the time and resources on marketing when you've got=0Amore business than= you can handle now anyway? And shouldn't you spend=0Atime on what's now im= portant, like internal operations, serving current=0Aclients, and other mor= e urgent priorities?=0AThe answer is an=0Aemphatic NO! Not only will you er= ode all the hard work you've invested=0Aget to where you are, but it will b= e much harder (and expensive!) to=0Aturn your now larger and more complex s= hip around, once you lose that=0Amarketing mindset.=0AThe truth is, that on= ce your firm gets more=0Asuccessful and, by definition, more complex, your = energy and focus turn=0Anaturally more inward. As your business grows, it t= akes on a life of=0Aits own in the form of meetings, policies, training, po= litics, and=0Areports. The larger your firm gets, the more energy is direct= ed inward=0A=96 it simply takes more planning, management, and systems to k= eep things=0Arunning smoothly.=0ASo how do you keep your firm from being=0A= consumed with internally focused activities? By developing and=0Aexecuting = a strategy to... =0AKeep your firm's mission alive,=0Areal, and relevant in= the marketplace. Think of your firm's mission as=0Athe "magnetic north" in= your compass. For everything you do, constantly=0Aask, "what difference do= es this make in the lives of our customers?" If=0Ait makes no difference (o= r the wrong difference), then why are you=0Aputting resources into it? Buil= d this line of questioning into=0Adecisions you make and resources you allo= cate.=0ACreate and=0Amaintain laser-like internal alignment with your exter= nal mission in=0Athe marketplace. Everyone's job should have a direct conne= ction to=0Aserving the customer. That means tying rewards and consequences = to how=0Aeveryone at your firm contributes to building client relationships= ..=0AEven if someone has no direct client contact, they're supporting=0Asome= one who does. Connect the dots between what they do and what it=0Ameans to = the client.=0ACreate new customers for old packages.=0AChances are, you hav= en't saturated your current target market. Don't=0Alet the basics that got = you to your current level of success fade away.=0AAnd what about new target= markets? What successful services do you have=0Athat you could offer to an= other segment?=0ACreate new services for=0Aold customers. Do a little resea= rch... ask people on your "front line"=0Awhat they think your customers nee= d. Ask your customers directly or=0Ahire an outside firm to ask for you. Fi= nd out why you won and lost=0Abusiness. You'll be surprised, inspired, and = motivated by what you=0Alearn.=0ACreate new packages for old services. Take= what you know=0Aor do and put it into a new format or offering. You can cr= eate=0Aworkshops, CDs, e-books, mini-books, on-line content, workbooks,=0Ac= hecklists, and more out of just about any professional content you=0Aknow o= r work with. Think beyond just charging an hourly fee for your=0Aservices. = "Productize" what you know by offering people helpful tools=0Athey can use.= =0AEnsure you and your leadership team are role models=0Afor the rest of yo= ur firm on how to create lasting relationships. What=0Abehaviors, words, st= andards, and approaches create lasting=0Arelationships with both clients an= d employees? Make sure your senior=0Ateam walks the talk and, if they don't= , fix the problem. If you can't=0Amodel how to create lasting relationships= at the top, others are less=0Ainclined to do it well.=0ADeliver on your fi= rm's brand promise=0Athrough solid practice management. The mark of a true = professional is=0Awhen your firm's own act is together. It's not enough to = be experts in=0Ayour field, backed by the credentials and experience that a= re important=0Ato your target clients. You must also engage in continuous l= earning=0Aabout your profession, your clients' industries, and how to=0Apro= fessionally manage your firm. Your firm's leadership must act as a=0Arole m= odel for how you want to be perceived in the marketplace. Are=0Athese high = standards to set for your firm? Absolutely. But then again,=0Ayou've alread= y proven you do the basics well.=0AResting on your laurels will only go so = far.=0ASooner=0Athan you think, loosing your focus on marketing will put yo= u back to=0Asquare one, scrambling for clients and worried about cash flow.= =0AExcept=0Athis time, the stakes are higher, your profile in the marketpla= ce is=0Ahigher, and you have a lot more to lose. So why go there? Take your= =0Afirm to the next level, and be confident you won't have to look back!=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ______________________________________________________= ______________________________=0ALooking for last minute shopping deals? = =0AFind them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsea= rch/category.php?category=3Dshopping --0-1846898752-1199354819=:98995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The ticket clinic, How to Take Your Law Firm to the Ne= xt Level

How to Take Your Law Firm to the Next Level=0A
Third = in a series of three articles

SO you've done such a=0Agood job at bri= nging in new clients to your firm that you're swamped=0Awith business, your= firm is large and growing, and all parts of your=0Amarketing system are in= place and running smoothly? Congratulations!

If you can confidently = answer "yes!" to the following metrics, then you're ready to take your prac= tice to the next level:

=09Is your firm's mission perfectly aligned w= ith your market?

=09Do your marketing efforts create exactly the rela= tionship your customers most want and need?

=09Are your services well= packaged, presented with a What's In It For Me? punch, and priced at vario= us levels?

=09Do you know exactly where and how to promote your firm'= s services?

=09Does your marketing system routinely and predictably c= reate the kinds of new customers your business requires?

What=0Ahappe= ns next in many successful firms, however, is not good news.=0AInstead of s= ticking with what's created success in the first place, the=0Afocus shifts = away from a marketing mindset. Instead of being an=0Aessential lens through= which people in your firm view their role,=0Amarketing as an every-day foc= us fades from importance. After all, why=0Acontinue to invest the time and = resources on marketing when you've got=0Amore business than you can handle = now anyway? And shouldn't you spend=0Atime on what's now important, like in= ternal operations, serving current=0Aclients, and other more urgent priorit= ies?

The answer is an=0Aemphatic NO! Not only will you erode all the = hard work you've invested=0Aget to where you are, but it will be much harde= r (and expensive!) to=0Aturn your now larger and more complex ship around, = once you lose that=0Amarketing mindset.

The truth is, that once your = firm gets more=0Asuccessful and, by definition, more complex, your energy a= nd focus turn=0Anaturally more inward. As your business grows, it takes on = a life of=0Aits own in the form of meetings, policies, training, politics, = and=0Areports. The larger your firm gets, the more energy is directed inwar= d=0A=96 it simply takes more planning, management, and systems to keep thin= gs=0Arunning smoothly.

So how do you keep your firm from being=0Acons= umed with internally focused activities? By developing and=0Aexecuting a st= rategy to...

Keep your firm's mission alive,=0Areal, and relevant in= the marketplace. Think of your firm's mission as=0Athe "magnetic north" in= your compass. For everything you do, constantly=0Aask, "what difference do= es this make in the lives of our customers?" If=0Ait makes no difference (o= r the wrong difference), then why are you=0Aputting resources into it? Buil= d this line of questioning into=0Adecisions you make and resources you allo= cate.

Create and=0Amaintain laser-like internal alignment with your e= xternal mission in=0Athe marketplace. Everyone's job should have a direct c= onnection to=0Aserving the customer. That means tying rewards and consequen= ces to how=0Aeveryone at your firm contributes to building client relations= hips.=0AEven if someone has no direct client contact, they're supporting=0A= someone who does. Connect the dots between what they do and what it=0Ameans= to the client.

Create new customers for old packages.=0AChances are,= you haven't saturated your current target market. Don't=0Alet the basics t= hat got you to your current level of success fade away.=0AAnd what about ne= w target markets? What successful services do you have=0Athat you could off= er to another segment?

Create new services for=0Aold customers. Do a = little research... ask people on your "front line"=0Awhat they think your c= ustomers need. Ask your customers directly or=0Ahire an outside firm to ask= for you. Find out why you won and lost=0Abusiness. You'll be surprised, in= spired, and motivated by what you=0Alearn.

Create new packages for ol= d services. Take what you know=0Aor do and put it into a new format or offe= ring. You can create=0Aworkshops, CDs, e-books, mini-books, on-line content= , workbooks,=0Achecklists, and more out of just about any professional cont= ent you=0Aknow or work with. Think beyond just charging an hourly fee for y= our=0Aservices. "Productize" what you know by offering people helpful tools= =0Athey can use.

Ensure you and your leadership team are role models= =0Afor the rest of your firm on how to create lasting relationships. What= =0Abehaviors, words, standards, and approaches create lasting=0Arelationshi= ps with both clients and employees? Make sure your senior=0Ateam walks the = talk and, if they don't, fix the problem. If you can't=0Amodel how to creat= e lasting relationships at the top, others are less=0Ainclined to do it wel= l.

Deliver on your firm's brand promise=0Athrough solid practice mana= gement. The mark of a true professional is=0Awhen your firm's own act is to= gether. It's not enough to be experts in=0Ayour field, backed by the creden= tials and experience that are important=0Ato your target clients. You must = also engage in continuous learning=0Aabout your profession, your clients' i= ndustries, and how to=0Aprofessionally manage your firm. Your firm's leader= ship must act as a=0Arole model for how you want to be perceived in the mar= ketplace. Are=0Athese high standards to set for your firm? Absolutely. But = then again,=0Ayou've already proven you do the basics well.

Resting o= n your laurels will only go so far.

Sooner=0Athan you think, loosing = your focus on marketing will put you back to=0Asquare one, scrambling for c= lients and worried about cash flow.

Except=0Athis time, the stakes ar= e higher, your profile in the marketplace is=0Ahigher, and you have a lot m= ore to lose. So why go there? Take your=0Afirm to the next level, and be co= nfident you won't have to look back!



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Are you ready to purchase a new computer? Great! The choices can be daunting, though. Just looking at the price aspect, you can spend anywhere from three hundred euros to several thousand euros, quite easily.
The first choice you'll need to make is whether to buy a desktop or a laptop. If you need any amount of mobility at all, we'd suggest a laptop. If you don't plan on moving your computer around or using away from your home or office, you might want a desktop. Desktop computers are easier to repair and are cheaper for what you get.
Next, you'll need to make a choice on some of the major features and components of the computer.
Memory is a big factor in determining how quickly your computer performs tasks - I would not buy a computer with less than 512 MB of memory. 1 GB of memory would be even better. If you are planning on doing lots of multimedia work or other tasks that require a lot of operating resources, you should probably get 2 GB of memory. Also keep in mind that memory is classified by speed as well as storage size.
You'll also need to decide on what processor you want and/or need. If you're not familiar with the technical aspects of computer processors and you are going to need a processor that's more powerful than standard, you might want to consult with a computer expert to help you make the choice.
You'll also need to choose the hard drive size you'll need. This is any easy choice to make - just see how much hard drive space you're using now, add in any increases you expect to need, then add some space for expansion.
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Search. --0-34062732-1199355326=:521-- From bloggerman08@yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 08:38:14 2008 Received: from n5.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com (n5.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.182]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m03DcEt7022063 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:38:14 -0500 Received: from [217.12.4.214] by n5.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 13:33:09 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t1.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 13:33:09 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.158] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 13:33:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 13:33:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 732779.34599.bm@omp406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45768 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2008 13:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=f+hy2Cpf3ecSNzynWO69YbKqO5k+QlF6Eo2MujRUpq1anHivByYqYoL1WGAhrXbptRuVkZFTtaABCfNnVDOLVTItk34hKOWsoVaYWdegSTjJ01/oe8jO9qYonG2F0Vjr6hDP7A8wNwq/za/eE9W2WWyEOYYnjPhkJO86nS5V+cg=; X-YMail-OSG: 98j06xUVM1mTcsgjprjq3C9lDVYy78MwXoMtnIAUPALBxh1trei556Qwi..wAtyV_BDXiaPy8OqzCclTq4tqmgHv1vylesfeXZMj Received: from [89.136.97.128] by web45912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:33:08 PST Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 05:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: Blogger Man Subject: Carlos Hank Rhon, Frequently Asked Questions about an Asbestos Law Suit To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-719062551-1199367188=:45217" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <577254.45217.qm@web45912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:38:14 -0000 --0-719062551-1199367188=:45217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carlos Hank Rhon, Frequently Asked Questions about an Asbestos Law Suit Asbestos litigation is one of the longest-running and most expensive mass torts in the history of the United States. For those who do not know the term, "mass tort" refers to a class-action lawsuit. This means that a mass tort is a lawsuit which involves a group of people instead of just one individual. Currently, asbestos litigations involve more than 600,000 people suing more than 6,000 claimants. If you are one of the people who think that a company has put your life in danger and who wishes to gain justice by bringing that company to the court, then there might be a few questions you want answered. Here is a list of the Frequently Asked Questions by people regarding Asbestos law suits: How soon after I am exposed to asbestos should I file a law suit? Many people are frequently unsure regarding whether or not the time is right to file an asbestos law suit. This may be because they are yet unsure regarding whether or not they will be able to claim damages. One of the best pieces of advice that people can give you would be to consult a doctor first. This is because exposure alone to asbestos cannot serve as grounds for litigation. You need to show that your health has been adversely affected by exposure to asbestos before you can start a law suit. An asbestos law suit should definitely have a strong base if it is to go far. You need to remember that some asbestos-related illnesses can be hard to diagnose. This means that you need to be very sure before you attempt to file an asbestos law suit. If you have been exposed to asbestos but have not yet developed symptoms, then you should definitely try to monitor your health very carefully. Some asbestos-caused illnesses like mesothelioma actually only show about 20-50 years after the person has been exposed to the substance. Watch for any telltale signs of illnesses and then contact a doctor right away. This is because some states have a statute of limitations which prevents people from suing a company when a certain time period has passed after they learn about the disease. What is a contingency fee? If you plan to go ahead with an asbestos law suit, then you may be thinking hard about how to pay for it. Most firms actually understand how hard it must be to face the disaster caused by asbestos in your life and they do not want to further add to your burden by charging you for every hour of their advice. In fact, most firms today accept payment in the form of contingency fees. What exactly are these fees? Well, a contingency fee is a fee that the law firm collects only after the case is finished. A contingency fee is actually based on the amount of damages that you will be receiving as this is often stipulated in contract as being a percentage of the total proceeds of the case. You have to be careful when agreeing to contingency fees. Some firms take the contingency fees out of the gross proceeds of the case. That is, they take the agreed upon percentage out of the total amount and then subtract the legal fees from your share. This means you will only keep a very small percentage of your cash. Try to look for a firm which deducts the fees from the net proceeds. By doing this, they will bear an equivalent share of the legal fees that you have incurred during the case. If you wish to know the percentage which you might have to part with as a contingency fee, most firms actually charge 1/3 or 33.33 percent. How much money do litigants get? This question cannot really be answered without enough information regarding your case. The amount of cash which a company will be willing to part with in your case depends on the particulars of the case. Some people can be hurt because of the fact that the damages that a person receives in an asbestos law suit often depends on how important his or her case is in the light of other people's complaints. This is because to every person, especially those whose lives have been shattered because of their exposure to asbestos, their case is the biggest one. What is the first step in filing an asbestos law suit? Always consult a lawyer first. The lawyer will be able to help you by handling all of the details which you may need to complete in order to get on with the asbestos law suit. When you consult a lawyer, you would then be required to cooperate in the information-gathering process. That is, you would be required to disclose any information which is possibly relevant to the case. There are steps following these, but the two described above ought to get you started in an asbestos lawsuit. For more complete information on mesothelioma please go to: --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-719062551-1199367188=:45217 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carlos Hank Rhon, Frequently Asked Questions about an Asbestos Law Suit


Asbestos litigation is one of the longest-running and most expensive mass torts in the history of the United States. For those who do not know the term, "mass tort" refers to a class-action lawsuit. This means that a mass tort is a lawsuit which involves a group of people instead of just one individual.
Currently, asbestos litigations involve more than 600,000 people suing more than 6,000 claimants. If you are one of the people who think that a company has put your life in danger and who wishes to gain justice by bringing that company to the court, then there might be a few questions you want answered. Here is a list of the Frequently Asked Questions by people regarding Asbestos law suits:
How soon after I am exposed to asbestos should I file a law suit?
Many people are frequently unsure regarding whether or not the time is right to file an asbestos law suit. This may be because they are yet unsure regarding whether or not they will be able to claim damages. One of the best pieces of advice that people can give you would be to consult a doctor first. This is because exposure alone to asbestos cannot serve as grounds for litigation. You need to show that your health has been adversely affected by exposure to asbestos before you can start a law suit. An asbestos law suit should definitely have a strong base if it is to go far. You need to remember that some asbestos-related illnesses can be hard to diagnose. This means that you need to be very sure before you attempt to file an asbestos law suit.
If you have been exposed to asbestos but have not yet developed symptoms, then you should definitely try to monitor your health very carefully. Some asbestos-caused illnesses like mesothelioma actually only show about 20-50 years after the person has been exposed to the substance. Watch for any telltale signs of illnesses and then contact a doctor right away. This is because some states have a statute of limitations which prevents people from suing a company when a certain time period has passed after they learn about the disease.
What is a contingency fee?
If you plan to go ahead with an asbestos law suit, then you may be thinking hard about how to pay for it. Most firms actually understand how hard it must be to face the disaster caused by asbestos in your life and they do not want to further add to your burden by charging you for every hour of their advice. In fact, most firms today accept payment in the form of contingency fees.
What exactly are these fees? Well, a contingency fee is a fee that the law firm collects only after the case is finished. A contingency fee is actually based on the amount of damages that you will be receiving as this is often stipulated in contract as being a percentage of the total proceeds of the case.
You have to be careful when agreeing to contingency fees. Some firms take the contingency fees out of the gross proceeds of the case. That is, they take the agreed upon percentage out of the total amount and then subtract the legal fees from your share. This means you will only keep a very small percentage of your cash. Try to look for a firm which deducts the fees from the net proceeds. By doing this, they will bear an equivalent share of the legal fees that you have incurred during the case. If you wish to know the percentage which you might have to part with as a contingency fee, most firms actually charge 1/3 or 33.33 percent.
How much money do litigants get?
This question cannot really be answered without enough information regarding your case. The amount of cash which a company will be willing to part with in your case depends on the particulars of the case. Some people can be hurt because of the fact that the damages that a person receives in an asbestos law suit often depends on how important his or her case is in the light of other people's complaints. This is because to every person, especially those whose lives have been shattered because of their exposure to asbestos, their case is the biggest one.
What is the first step in filing an asbestos law suit?
Always consult a lawyer first. The lawyer will be able to help you by handling all of the details which you may need to complete in order to get on with the asbestos law suit. When you consult a lawyer, you would then be required to cooperate in the information-gathering process. That is, you would be required to disclose any information which is possibly relevant to the case. There are steps following these, but the two described above ought to get you started in an asbestos lawsuit.
For more complete information on mesothelioma please go to:

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Search. --0-719062551-1199367188=:45217-- From candyshop999@gmail.com Fri Jan 4 06:02:31 2008 Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.247]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04B2Vun009607 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 06:02:31 -0500 Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so7833663hsn.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:57:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=GqaCEaEXh6CKE2Cn2OKUIo7moIvSQKG2OSfETB1Evdo=; b=crtNNq8rAl1frOAZ7CbTws622tOh2baHtfy95h0H5S1p1QdpoeYLsH9VPeAPqh0OlW7ab6C3lZgUermXnIIfl+97ES4GTnLDHOX4llclarDmOwHdMOJ66ClufCJnfhL3FLz83bSCqoHtg6hP6C2/pPjYZTsNJkTdYUw9rfk/gXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XwQ88tXY7qG6J8P6U88pSgEHnxEKrHBHZqjxWbl+Cc0QQGzC0ABksJnwY9GeWXaGKtnnl1v/wDq5SocqJluJXrDzX1EnAdK9Xfv6ioVtx6AB4G3InHpUo6jjihSqnqhRIurf1u11ouGE+e6272j11rEeXesXMlfIX3u9Dc6SS6s= Received: by 10.150.12.5 with SMTP id 5mr2034595ybl.39.1199444246392; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.156.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 02:57:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:57:26 +0200 From: "Super Star" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: United Built Homes, Create IRA Wealth with Real Estate Notes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17443_32603154.1199444246396" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:02:31 -0000 ------=_Part_17443_32603154.1199444246396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline United Built Homes, Create IRA Wealth with Real Estate Notes If you own a traditional IRA, you probably think that your investment options are fairly limited. It might surprise you learn that in fact the opposite is truethere are almost no restrictions on the types of investments you can make with an IRA. However, unless you convert your traditional IRA into a self-directed IRA or a Roth IRA, you wont be able to take advantage of the many benefits of these types of retirement accounts. What can you do with a Self-directed IRA? Almost any type of investment is possible with a self-directed IRA. There are almost no restrictions, and in fact the only thing you cant do is use your IRA to purchase collectable items such as coins, or make investments that directly profit you or your descendants. Most of the inherent advantages of IRAs relate to the tax laws that govern these accounts. -Profits made by IRA investments are not subject to Capital Gains Tax -All IRA earnings are tax-deferred until you reach 59 1/2 (the age of distributions). -IRA profits are not taxed until withdrawn from the account, even after you reach the age of distributions Its even possible to create an IRA trust and appoint the trust as a beneficiary of your IRA. This allows you to leave tax-free money to your spouse or to children, and is particularly helpful if one of your beneficiaries is a minor. Creating a trust is also a good way of ensuring there will be enough money to pay estate taxes. What about a Roth IRA? In essence Roth IRAs are very similar to self-directed IRAsthey can be used to make the same types of investments and they are subject to similar restrictions. However, slightly different tax types are involved which make Roth IRAs an excellent alternative. As with self-directed IRAs, income earned by a Roth IRA is tax-deferred; in addition, all withdrawals made from the account are tax-free after the age of distributions is reached. Roth IRAs do not have a minimum distribution requirement, so the owner of such as account can withdraw as much or as little money as they like after the age of 59 1/2. The only drawback with a Roth IRA is that contributions are not tax-deductible. Real Estate Notes Generate Passive Income A real estate note is a contract between a property buyer and the institution or individual who lends them the money to buy it. These notes can be bought and sold by institutions on the secondary mortgage market, and can be bought and sold by private investors too. The beauty of investing in notes with a self-directed or Roth IRA is that you create passive incomethat is, income which requires no further effort on the part of the investor once the investment is made. Once you buy a note using your IRA, youll get payments coming in month after monthall going into your account without being taxed. Another advantage of buying notes rather than property is that notes do not change in value if the real estate market takes a dive. Property prices change, but the total value of a real estate note does not. Who can buy Real Estate Notes? Yesyou don't need to be a member of a financial institution to buy notes. With the potential to buy real estate notes at a discount of up to 30%, there is plenty of profit to be made. You can even create notes if you have the funds to do so. For people who need to borrow money for a real estate purchase but would prefer not to borrow from a bank or other financial institution, working with a private investor is the only option, and these types of loans can be particularly beneficial for the investor. Privately-funded mortgages carry much higher interest rates than those created by financial institutions, because to a private investor, the risk is greater. Joshua Geary is the developer of Asset Exchange Strategies, LLC, which helps those nearing retirement learn how to invest in real estate notes in their IRA. Visit his blog for the latest tax deferred self directed IRAstrategies. ------=_Part_17443_32603154.1199444246396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline United Built Homes, Create IRA Wealth with Real Estate Notes

If you own a traditional IRA, you probably think that your investment options are fairly limited. It might surprise you learn that in fact the opposite is truethere are almost no restrictions on the types of investments you can make with an IRA. However, unless you convert your traditional IRA into a self-directed IRA or a Roth IRA, you wont be able to take advantage of the many benefits of these types of retirement accounts.

What can you do with a Self-directed IRA?

Almost any type of investment is possible with a self-directed IRA. There are almost no restrictions, and in fact the only thing you cant do is use your IRA to purchase collectable items such as coins, or make investments that directly profit you or your descendants. Most of the inherent advantages of IRAs relate to the tax laws that govern these accounts.

-Profits made by IRA investments are not subject to Capital Gains Tax

-All IRA earnings are tax-deferred until you reach 59 1/2 (the age of distributions).

-IRA profits are not taxed until withdrawn from the account, even after you reach the age of distributions

Its even possible to create an IRA trust and appoint the trust as a beneficiary of your IRA. This allows you to leave tax-free money to your spouse or to children, and is particularly helpful if one of your beneficiaries is a minor. Creating a trust is also a good way of ensuring there will be enough money to pay estate taxes.

What about a Roth IRA?

In essence Roth IRAs are very similar to self-directed IRAsthey can be used to make the same types of investments and they are subject to similar restrictions. However, slightly different tax types are involved which make Roth IRAs an excellent alternative. As with self-directed IRAs, income earned by a Roth IRA is tax-deferred; in addition, all withdrawals made from the account are tax-free after the age of distributions is reached. Roth IRAs do not have a minimum distribution requirement, so the owner of such as account can withdraw as much or as little money as they like after the age of 59 1/2. The only drawback with a Roth IRA is that contributions are not tax-deductible.

Real Estate Notes Generate Passive Income

A real estate note is a contract between a property buyer and the institution or individual who lends them the money to buy it. These notes can be bought and sold by institutions on the secondary mortgage market, and can be bought and sold by private investors too. The beauty of investing in notes with a self-directed or Roth IRA is that you create passive incomethat is, income which requires no further effort on the part of the investor once the investment is made. Once you buy a note using your IRA, youll get payments coming in month after monthall going into your account without being taxed. Another advantage of buying notes rather than property is that notes do not change in value if the real estate market takes a dive. Property prices change, but the total value of a real estate note does not.

Who can buy Real Estate Notes?

Yesyou don't need to be a member of a financial institution to buy notes. With the potential to buy real estate notes at a discount of up to 30%, there is plenty of profit to be made. You can even create notes if you have the funds to do so. For people who need to borrow money for a real estate purchase but would prefer not to borrow from a bank or other financial institution, working with a private investor is the only option, and these types of loans can be particularly beneficial for the investor. Privately-funded mortgages carry much higher interest rates than those created by financial institutions, because to a private investor, the risk is greater.

Joshua Geary is the developer of Asset Exchange Strategies, LLC, which helps those nearing retirement learn how to invest in real estate notes in their IRA. Visit his blog for the latest tax deferred self directed IRAstrategies.
------=_Part_17443_32603154.1199444246396-- From candyshop999@gmail.com Fri Jan 4 06:03:35 2008 Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.251]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04B3Y9c009627 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 06:03:34 -0500 Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so7834042hsn.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:58:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0QMSqRWUKph/KuqZcCiGBoHS9tEy9l22XLvzqlokHAw=; b=tOaJFFXB6j7foeu7TIWOqcwM97ME6zXYGA53H2zHO3emjL8R9GlW+9MIfCuVSLN070W0uPEvh685NBx+08nB2Cnbla8yjWfldO4DZ0z7iDoEr4jCeZovHNHYZY1BoYIjsR+vYxzmn6N2gXD/T+X8WYQhacUkjGioj8Dga/LBKdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dEno1K5O2Ws0aUMW/2yqMziOGXsWdU9mAWKlefYFCKpyIHUL3jIdrL6zFVBpOQ5HQ46LTfILwl4K0moUcduG+qMjc+zFciSiP8Waj/uHldeBBp40CMGXJcmckAnTxZJkxDpWCHDUVAcDbT2rGoKe93h+C3oENVjb20LCPM9voGY= Received: by 10.150.226.15 with SMTP id y15mr4528115ybg.145.1199444309885; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.156.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 02:58:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:58:29 +0200 From: "Super Star" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Martin Pelmore, Sage Credit Company Expands Services Through Sage Credit Escrow Company: Sage Escrow Company Serves Needs of Southern California Mortgage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17449_27416985.1199444309889" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:03:35 -0000 ------=_Part_17449_27416985.1199444309889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Martin Pelmore, Sage Credit Company Expands Services Through Sage Credit Escrow Company: Sage Escrow Company Serves Needs of Southern California Mortgage IRVINE, Calif. (BusinessWire EON) June 18, 2007 -- Sage Credit Escrow's staff has over 50 years of combined experience in resale and refinance escrows. The majority of the staff has experience in high volume closings, enabling them to handle a large number of transactions per month. Sage Credit Escrow offers several key benefits that differentiate it from the competition including competitive pricing, fast and courteous service, escrow instructions within 24 hours and same day services. Sage Credit Escrow Company is managed by Lillian Delgado, a 30-year veteran of the industry. "I am very excited about the opportunity to serve the escrow needs of the mortgage community at Sage Credit Escrow Company. My 30 years plus of experience in the industry enables me to improve and accelerate the escrow process and make it less of a mystery for the consumer. It is rewarding work," said Lillian Delgado, Manager of Sage Credit Escrow Company. "Having the benefits of Sage Escrow Company within our scope of services provides many benefits for our mortgage network," said Quentin Caruana, President of Sage Credit Company. "In today's world, having related mortgage banking services under one umbrella improves our services to the broker community and enhances our business offering," said Caruana. About Sage Credit Company Sage Credit Company, Inc., headquartered in Irvine, California, is a rapidly emerging mortgage banking company licensed nationwide, and by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The company has a robust network of retail offices providing a comprehensive array of loan products, including mortgages for first-time buyers, home equity loans; cash out refinance loans, and debt-consolidation loans. Sage Credit Company conducts both mortgage banking activities utilizing Wall Street conduits. Sage Credit Company is located in the Irvine Spectrum at 8001 Irvine Center Drive, Irvine, California 92618. For more information please visit . Sage Credit Escrow Company is located in the Irvine Spectrum at 8001 Irvine Center Drive. For more information please visit . ------=_Part_17449_27416985.1199444309889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Martin Pelmore, Sage Credit Company Expands Services Through Sage Credit Escrow Company: Sage Escrow Company Serves Needs of Southern California Mortgage



IRVINE, Calif. (BusinessWire EON) June 18, 2007 --     Sage Credit Escrow's staff has over 50 years of combined experience in resale and refinance escrows. The majority of the staff has experience in high volume closings, enabling them to handle a large number of transactions per month.

Sage Credit Escrow offers several key benefits that differentiate it from the competition including competitive pricing, fast and courteous service, escrow instructions within 24 hours and same day services.



Sage Credit Escrow Company is managed by Lillian Delgado, a 30-year veteran of the industry.

"I am very excited about the opportunity to serve the escrow needs of the mortgage community at Sage Credit Escrow Company. My 30 years plus of experience in the industry enables me to improve and accelerate the escrow process and make it less of a mystery for the consumer. It is rewarding work," said Lillian Delgado, Manager of Sage Credit Escrow Company.

"Having the benefits of Sage Escrow Company within our scope of services provides many benefits for our mortgage network," said Quentin Caruana, President of Sage Credit Company. "In today's world, having related mortgage banking services under one umbrella improves our services to the broker community and enhances our business offering," said Caruana.

About Sage Credit Company

Sage Credit Company, Inc., headquartered in Irvine, California, is a rapidly emerging mortgage banking company licensed nationwide, and by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The company has a robust network of retail offices providing a comprehensive array of loan products, including mortgages for first-time buyers, home equity loans; cash out refinance loans, and debt-consolidation loans. Sage Credit Company conducts both mortgage banking activities utilizing Wall Street conduits.

Sage Credit Company is located in the Irvine Spectrum at 8001 Irvine Center Drive, Irvine, California 92618. For more information please visit .

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Fans are incredibly valuable products to have in your home. There are countless products on the market that incorporate the fan into them and, what?s more, there is an increased need for stand alone fans. No matter what type of product you have or are looking to purchase, spend a few minutes looking for the right quality and then, take care of it. A fan that is purchased with care can last you a long time when you care for it over the coarse of time.

In caring for a fan, consider these important qualifications.

1. Fans should be kept dust free. The more dust that accumulates on the blades, the harder the motor needs to work. In addition, the dust can get into the fan?s air suction and that too can lead to problems with the motor. 2. You should tighten the screws on fan blades every few months. Those fans that are used heavily will need more attention than those that do not. A blade that becomes loose not only will cause you to have to deal with the possibility of it falling but it will be louder, too. 3. Keep your fan oiled and working well. You should follow your owner?s manual to get more details about how to keep your fan working properly to this level. Most of what needs done only needs a few minutes of your attention every few months.

When you properly care for the fans in your home, the appliance just works better. The largest concern that you have is keeping them clean as a fan that is loaded with dust can through that dust onto you and throughout your home. It?s easy to care for a fan, though. Simply use some warm water with a touch of mild dish soap. Never get the motor wet, though!

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------=_Part_17779_2680039.1199449977502-- From candyshop999@gmail.com Fri Jan 4 07:45:25 2008 Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.247]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04CjPrQ010949 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:45:25 -0500 Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 33so1291569agc.0 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:40:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fZuRZGt3dlkKn8t8/kGIFdiomMQxQTCShfYoXj23Bro=; b=PIU24M6RjZgkHIdsjQK44Bvp2+pX3C6ffTPVnmCgKNSnS+gBtbNpfju7N2sfxDkWM7CHiZGQjsUN0xxnTMOuz8GEEq4H10h+18Z9IzAv7b/e5YkY0bB6wDH/Hu62Um+o249VqSfDlYL4LV8jspQBiYIr8yiOiAaMg33PZD37X7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CAFAMpOEF8kSbqCYmbO1ddiuaenNqYHgOV/MJTNLhvDcYrMoh7zmWZDJFUMwI4TbI5Sitez+hS2xfXS67kZFusfkd3EaXRsOmZXHwFWxY0uV5D6oWd4y8to8RwRe/x50w2ZuU/WBjido/3N3oA9KMhsGV10TMA0f2RRuIul897o= Received: by 10.150.153.19 with SMTP id a19mr4572649ybe.38.1199450420642; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.156.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 04:40:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:40:20 +0200 From: "Super Star" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Palm Vacations, Traveling Suggestions for the Unattached MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17839_10903359.1199450420627" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:45:25 -0000 ------=_Part_17839_10903359.1199450420627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Palm Vacations, Traveling Suggestions for the Unattached Still single? Not that there?s anything wrong with it, but sometimes having no significant other may draw out feelings of self-doubt and loneliness. There are heaps of websites providing adult dating services that are of great help to in finding your match. Well, you really don?t need a partner if you don?t want to. There?s a way that you can really take pleasure in being single without the burden of a commitment ? and that is to travel. Traveling without a companion is an uninviting idea. They say that it?s depressing and it can be very dangerous for inexperienced travelers. But I say, a single traveler can also enjoy as much as group travelers do. By having a trip alone, you may relax or you may simply get your mind together. Plus, if you?re single and desperately trying to find Mr. Right, who knows? Maybe you are meant to meet him along the way. The first thing you have to think of is your health, whether you're at home or on the road. When you feel healthy, you feel good. And when you feel good, it radiates good vibes. If you?re in a tip-top condition, you are sure to enjoy your journeys. Fact is, it?s easier to get sick when you?re in another place than staying at home mainly because your body will be adjusting to the new environment ? especially when you live in a tropical country then you?re going to visit places with boreal climates. While your immune system is still adjusting with the new environment, there?s a chance that you?ll be more susceptible to various infections. If you know you have an illness and still you want to travel, talk to your doctor first about your plans. When he or she allows you, bring your medications. If you have asthma, carry your inhaler to prevent asthma attacks. But the best thing you can do before going to a place you?ve never been before is to research about the place, especially the health risks in the area you plan to visit. Trust me, it isn?t a good idea getting sick in another place when you?re on your own. Now, let?s talk about destinations. Where should unattached people take a trip? Well, the best suggestion I can give is to look for travel agencies specifically for singles and check their vacation packages. If you haven?t saved enough money to afford international vacations why not travel within your country? If you have the funds, there is plenty of stunning tourist spots around the globe waiting for you. You can go cruising and view different places, or you can stay in an island for a week filled with entertainment, exotic food, and cozy lodging. Also, try to hit upon additional benefits like discounts & seasonal promos. In that way you can add more fun to your vacation and save more bucks! At singles-only-destinations, meet people from different races and make friends. And if you?re trying to find love, taking trips like these may increase your chances of finding your match. Who said that if you?re single you have to be alone all the time? One of your options is escort dating services. Mind you, escorts are distinct from prostitutes. Men and women from escort services should not necessarily be forced to engage in adult activities unlike prostitutes. If you only need a companion for events and travels, there are escorts who are smart and fun to be with. Just make sure that the escort agency you?re paying do have a good reputation and they offer professional adult escort service for you get fine services. ------=_Part_17839_10903359.1199450420627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Palm Vacations, Traveling Suggestions for the Unattached

Still single? Not that there?s anything wrong with it, but sometimes having no significant other may draw out feelings of self-doubt and loneliness. There are heaps of websites providing adult dating services that are of great help to in finding your match. Well, you really don?t need a partner if you don?t want to. There?s a way that you can really take pleasure in being single without the burden of a commitment ? and that is to travel.

Traveling without a companion is an uninviting idea. They say that it?s depressing and it can be very dangerous for inexperienced travelers. But I say, a single traveler can also enjoy as much as group travelers do. By having a trip alone, you may relax or you may simply get your mind together. Plus, if you?re single and desperately trying to find Mr. Right, who knows? Maybe you are meant to meet him along the way.

The first thing you have to think of is your health, whether you're at home or on the road. When you feel healthy, you feel good. And when you feel good, it radiates good vibes. If you?re in a tip-top condition, you are sure to enjoy your journeys. Fact is, it?s easier to get sick when you?re in another place than staying at home mainly because your body will be adjusting to the new environment ? especially when you live in a tropical country then you?re going to visit places with boreal climates. While your immune system is still adjusting with the new environment, there?s a chance that you?ll be more susceptible to various infections. If you know you have an illness and still you want to travel, talk to your doctor first about your plans. When he or she allows you, bring your medications. If you have asthma, carry your inhaler to prevent asthma attacks. But the best thing you can do before going to a place you?ve never been before is to research about the place, especially the health risks in the area you plan to visit. Trust me, it isn?t a good idea getting sick in another place when you?re on your own. Now, let?s talk about destinations. Where should unattached people take a trip? Well, the best suggestion I can give is to look for travel agencies specifically for singles and check their vacation packages. If you haven?t saved enough money to afford international vacations why not travel within your country? If you have the funds, there is plenty of stunning tourist spots around the globe waiting for you. You can go cruising and view different places, or you can stay in an island for a week filled with entertainment, exotic food, and cozy lodging. Also, try to hit upon additional benefits like discounts & seasonal promos. In that way you can add more fun to your vacation and save more bucks! At singles-only-destinations, meet people from different races and make friends. And if you?re trying to find love, taking trips like these may increase your chances of finding your match. Who said that if you?re single you have to be alone all the time? One of your options is escort dating services. Mind you, escorts are distinct from prostitutes. Men and women from escort services should not necessarily be forced to engage in adult activities unlike prostitutes. If you only need a companion for events and travels, there are escorts who are smart and fun to be with. Just make sure that the escort agency you?re paying do have a good reputation and they offer professional adult escort service for you get fine services.


------=_Part_17839_10903359.1199450420627-- From candyshop999@gmail.com Fri Jan 4 08:59:21 2008 Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.250]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04Dwr5k012002 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:59:21 -0500 Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 33so1301631agc.0 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:54:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=VXsIRJEGAp/WMQQ8U6qUYWbGyKW79u4L1dt5IM9n1X0=; b=ML+w2CooQL5m1nj7u9McvjYjUyaxNnj8dC93BnUlqja7Y8jIqJDYhqSy9MwYC6wQDqfSKO2HD6IQPqTa/asitnVBsOhjuweuFcB30dLQZdxsj3sc94+xAiX1syvheHqmmFoEC487BejJgNL68dTrQYagY+hEebqF6grjyCWTFoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rcpo3SfKLLzvDS0cloWFpaLog8dPzlhHNqaSa4ZLbTcetdHuS49psw3Kn5EMpcsQqVWNdAoDF9gWAz6teAVmWsGUR2Afpx00bZnzvtfMv6km8hipXmxPnauOxzvRLaWYrtqzULQ69pqaJhFESzFHgkr3PD2FGzeriAJyEhb4AIM= Received: by 10.150.140.6 with SMTP id n6mr4603279ybd.33.1199454856947; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.156.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 05:54:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 15:54:16 +0200 From: "Super Star" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Andrew Vaughey, How to Find the Best Mortgage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18112_18112095.1199454856927" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:59:22 -0000 ------=_Part_18112_18112095.1199454856927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andrew Vaughey, How to Find the Best Mortgage The purchase of a new home is one of the most important decisions you will ever make, and finding the best type of financing for you is crucial. Mortgage financing is a very competitive industry and lenders are currently offering extremely low interest rates and a variety of flexible loan programs. Financing your mortgage can be stressful and time consuming. It is important that you educate yourself about the various programs and types of loans before you shop for a new home. Before signing a contract on a new house, it is a good idea to speak with a mortgage professional in advance. You can learn how much you can borrow and what type of loan you may qualify for. There are many different types or mortgage loans. Speaking with a lender in advance can help you understand which type of mortgage is right for your situation and financial status. You can learn how much you can expect to pay as a down payment and how much you can afford to pay each month towards your mortgage. The amount you ultimately qualify for will depend on your income, savings, debt level, and your credit score. Lenders are more than willing to assist you in determining which type of mortgage is best for you and how much you can afford to pay for a new home. Mortgage financing does not have to be complicated and difficult. Learning the facts before you begin searching for your new home can save you time and effort. You can often be pre-qualified or even pre-approved for your mortgage when you contact a professional mortgage lender. Lenders are competing for your business and will make the mortgage process seem simple and easy. Ken Austin is the webmaster at and ------=_Part_18112_18112095.1199454856927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andrew Vaughey, How to Find the Best Mortgage



The purchase of a new home is one of the most important decisions you will ever make, and finding the best type of financing for you is crucial. Mortgage financing is a very competitive industry and lenders are currently offering extremely low interest rates and a variety of flexible loan programs. Financing your mortgage can be stressful and time consuming. It is important that you educate yourself about the various programs and types of loans before you shop for a new home.

Before signing a contract on a new house, it is a good idea to speak with a mortgage professional in advance. You can learn how much you can borrow and what type of loan you may qualify for. There are many different types or mortgage loans. Speaking with a lender in advance can help you understand which type of mortgage is right for your situation and financial status. You can learn how much you can expect to pay as a down payment and how much you can afford to pay each month towards your mortgage. The amount you ultimately qualify for will depend on your income, savings, debt level, and your credit score. Lenders are more than willing to assist you in determining which type of mortgage is best for you and how much you can afford to pay for a new home.

Mortgage financing does not have to be complicated and difficult. Learning the facts before you begin searching for your new home can save you time and effort. You can often be pre-qualified or even pre-approved for your mortgage when you contact a professional mortgage lender. Lenders are competing for your business and will make the mortgage process seem simple and easy.

Ken Austin is the webmaster at  and 


------=_Part_18112_18112095.1199454856927-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Jan 4 11:39:07 2008 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04Gd7vA014331 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:39:07 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m04GY2Ad014642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:02 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m04GY2Za002033 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:02 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m04GY2NE002032 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:02 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: list spam update Message-ID: <20080104163402.GA1940@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:39:07 -0000 The recent spam that was sent to this list was sent by spammers who actually subscribed to the lists in order to post. I'll try to keep an eye on this situation. From shane@hemc.coop Fri Jan 4 13:58:28 2008 Received: from s-marcell.hemc.coop (mail.hemc.coop [63.69.63.30]) by lists.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m04IwSI1016729 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:58:28 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: list spam update Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:55:03 -0500 Message-ID: <7C454E01C5FAE748BEFE65F4C6B7FD8B01075AD5@s-marcell.hemc.coop> In-Reply-To: <20080104163402.GA1940@logo.rdu.rpath.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: list spam update Thread-Index: AchO7+/pcQb7FzAHS8CDFFYIHJ2+NAAE1jEw From: "Shane McKinley" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.rpath.com id m04IwSI1016729 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rpath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:58:28 -0000 Thanks, I was getting a bit worried.. Shane -----Original Message----- From: Michael K. Johnson [mailto:johnsonm@rpath.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:34 AM To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: list spam update The recent spam that was sent to this list was sent by spammers who actually subscribed to the lists in order to post. I'll try to keep an eye on this situation. _______________________________________________ distro-list mailing list distro-list@lists.rpath.com http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Thu Feb 14 17:44:45 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1EHijXU019077 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:44:45 GMT Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1EHi0nU011784 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:44:00 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080214174359H0600cvggfe>; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:43:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E0917FA40 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 25236-04 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1651A17FA98; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:43:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:43:58 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Imake.tmpl Message-ID: <20080214174358.GA25374@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:44:45 -0000 I know I'm going to kick myself when I get my answer, but where, in an rPath Linux system, do I find Imake.tmpl? I find xmkmf and imake, the executables, but when they go to build the Makefile from the Imakefile, I get complaints about the missing template file. Thanks, Brian From smithj@rpath.com Thu Feb 14 21:51:09 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1ELp9Wf023133 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:51:09 GMT Received: from mail2.freethemallocs.com (mail2.freethemallocs.com [65.99.199.134]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1ELoOCq024140 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:50:24 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (209-112-181-25.static.acsalaska.net [209.112.181.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.freethemallocs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6D26410B; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <47B4B795.3070804@rpath.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:50:13 -0900 From: Jonathan Smith Organization: rPath Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian McCullough Subject: Re: Imake.tmpl References: <20080214174358.GA25374@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20080214174358.GA25374@bdmcc-us.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=73DA45E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:51:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian McCullough wrote: | I know I'm going to kick myself when I get my answer, but where, in an | rPath Linux system, do I find Imake.tmpl? I find xmkmf and imake, the | executables, but when they go to build the Makefile from the Imakefile, | I get complaints about the missing template file. smithj@localhost ~ $ locate Imake.tmpl /usr/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl smithj@localhost ~ $ conary q --path /usr/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl xorg-cf-files:lib=/foresight.rpath.org@fl:devel//2-devel/7.3-0.2-1[is: x86] Just replace the "q" with an "rq" and point it at the repo you want :) smithj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAke0t5UACgkQCG91qXPaRemGzACdG6ACXcTOOu/TgQ29BVyJ6dQI EDAAnRaZ5TT9l55+y3ClwoaDdebSqM6U =e07e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Fri Feb 15 14:10:26 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1FEAQZc005458 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:10:26 GMT Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1FE9exS006174 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:40 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20080215140939H0500cvo0je>; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:09:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A660D17FA98; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 13906-01-6; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4114E17FB63; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:09:38 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: Jonathan Smith Subject: Re: Imake.tmpl Message-ID: <20080215140938.GA28514@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080214174358.GA25374@bdmcc-us.com> <47B4B795.3070804@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47B4B795.3070804@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 Cc: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:10:26 -0000 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:50:13PM -0900, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Brian McCullough wrote: > | I know I'm going to kick myself when I get my answer, but where, in an > | rPath Linux system, do I find Imake.tmpl? I find xmkmf and imake, the > | executables, but when they go to build the Makefile from the Imakefile, > | I get complaints about the missing template file. > > smithj@localhost ~ $ locate Imake.tmpl > /usr/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > smithj@localhost ~ $ conary q --path /usr/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > xorg-cf-files:lib=/foresight.rpath.org@fl:devel//2-devel/7.3-0.2-1[is: x86] > > Just replace the "q" with an "rq" and point it at the repo you want :) Thank you, Jonathan. Unfortunately, that pre-supposes that I know where the file should be, doesn't it? Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Mar 17 16:37:41 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HGbfYW018251 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:37:41 GMT Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HGbe1L001133 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:37:40 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20080317163739H0200ai2sje>; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:37:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B8B17FB7F for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 04832-01-3 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7506217FC05; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:37:38 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:37:41 -0000 I have a minimal Xen Host ( domU ) that doesn't need real mail capability, just the ability to pass cron messages to the real mail server in the LAN. Actually, the domU isn't really minimal, it just doesn't need to be a mail server. I don't really want to put sendmail or postfix on this machine, since that seems like overkill. Is there something in the repository ( rPath Linux in particular ) that can do this task? I have searched "packages" on "mail," but don't seem to find anything. Thanks, Brian From smg@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 16:50:57 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HGovH7018706 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:50:57 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HGovKw002355 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:50:57 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (mr-nibbles.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m2HGovOJ018932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:50:56 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:50:57 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > I have a minimal Xen Host ( domU ) that doesn't need real mail > capability, just the ability to pass cron messages to the real mail > server in the LAN. Actually, the domU isn't really minimal, it just > doesn't need to be a mail server. I don't really want to put sendmail > or postfix on this machine, since that seems like overkill. > > Is there something in the repository ( rPath Linux in particular ) that > can do this task? I have searched "packages" on "mail," but don't seem > to find anything. > > > Thanks, > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > the mail manpage notes the smtp environment variable. smtp Normally, mailx invokes sendmail(8) directly to transfer messages. If the smtp variable is set, a SMTP connection to the server specified by the value of this variable is used instead. If the SMTP server does not use the stan- dard port, a value of server:port can be given, with port as a name or as a number. Stu From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Mar 17 17:35:44 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHZimr020801 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:35:44 GMT Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHZhqn008628 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:35:44 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20080317173543H0300i95f8e>; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:35:43 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E228F17F307 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 05001-03-4 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7874C17FC05; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:35:42 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:35:44 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:50:56PM -0400, Stu Gott wrote: > > > the mail manpage notes the smtp environment variable. > > smtp Normally, mailx invokes sendmail(8) directly to transfer > messages. If the smtp variable is set, a SMTP connection > to the server specified by the value of this variable is > used instead. If the SMTP server does not use the stan- > dard port, a value of server:port can be given, with port > as a name or as a number. That's certainly interesting, Stu. I have never thought of /bin/mail in this way. However, that seems to be good for manually-originated mail, what about cron? Am I being dense? What takes the place of /usr/lib/sendmail for cron and other applications that need it? Thanks, Brian From gafton@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 17:44:01 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHi1w3021192 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:44:01 GMT Received: from zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (zimbra.rpath.com [66.192.95.196] (may be forged)) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHi04t009991 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A364332EA65 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -3.95 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.95 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJECT_EXCESS_BASE64=0.449] Received: from zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3mAcVoFRowXr for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gafton.rdu-vpn.rpath.com (gafton.rdu-vpn.rpath.com [172.16.65.33]) by zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4DE32EA64 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:43:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Cristian Gafton To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6ICJudWxsIiBNVEE=?= In-Reply-To: <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> Message-ID: References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:44:01 -0000 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Brian McCullough wrote: > > smtp Normally, mailx invokes sendmail(8) directly to transfer > > messages. If the smtp variable is set, a SMTP connection > > to the server specified by the value of this variable is > > used instead. If the SMTP server does not use the stan- > > dard port, a value of server:port can be given, with port > > as a name or as a number. > > That's certainly interesting, Stu. I have never thought of /bin/mail in > this way. However, that seems to be good for manually-originated mail, > what about cron? Am I being dense? What takes the place of > /usr/lib/sendmail for cron and other applications that need it? For crond, /usr/bin/sendmail is hardcoded. You can recompile crond to use /bin/mail instead of sendmail, or fake /usr/bin/sendmail with a shell script of sorts, given that crond really has a very predictible way of calling it. Cristian -- Cristian Gafton rPath, Inc. From smg@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 17:50:49 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHomfi021546 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:50:48 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHom7r011380 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:50:48 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (mr-nibbles.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m2HHomm7023149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:50:48 -0400 Message-ID: <47DEAF78.7020807@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:50:48 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:50:49 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:50:56PM -0400, Stu Gott wrote: > >>> >>> >> the mail manpage notes the smtp environment variable. >> >> smtp Normally, mailx invokes sendmail(8) directly to transfer >> messages. If the smtp variable is set, a SMTP connection >> to the server specified by the value of this variable is >> used instead. If the SMTP server does not use the stan- >> dard port, a value of server:port can be given, with port >> as a name or as a number. >> > > That's certainly interesting, Stu. I have never thought of /bin/mail in > this way. However, that seems to be good for manually-originated mail, > what about cron? Am I being dense? What takes the place of > /usr/lib/sendmail for cron and other applications that need it? > > > Thanks, > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > sorry, that was only half the concept. caveat: I have never tried this, but I assume it should do something along the lines of what you're looking for. set the following two env vars at the top of the cron.d file mailto=the@email.destination smtp=m.t.a you may need to invoke the cron daemon with [-m/bin/mail] which may mean editing the init script. I think that should do what you want. more fiddling may be required to put all those pieces together. Stu From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Mar 17 17:58:48 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHwm1D022025 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:48 GMT Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HHwlfK013187 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:58:47 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080317175847H0600cr1aae>; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201A517F307 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 05176-03-2 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id A7C3C17FC0B; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:58:45 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:48 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:43:59PM -0400, Cristian Gafton wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Brian McCullough wrote: > > For crond, /usr/bin/sendmail is hardcoded. You can recompile crond to use > /bin/mail instead of sendmail, or fake /usr/bin/sendmail with a shell script > of sorts, given that crond really has a very predictible way of calling it. Thank you both. I will move on in the direction you have pointed. Brian From misa@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 18:30:09 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HIU9TZ023604 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:30:09 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HIU91P020048 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:09 -0400 Received: from roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com (roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.89]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m2HIU90G026509 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:09 -0400 Received: from roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2HIU9Y5020605 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:09 -0400 Received: (from misa@localhost) by roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2HIU9iu020604 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:30:09 -0400 From: Mihai Ibanescu To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:30:10 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:43:59PM -0400, Cristian Gafton wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Brian McCullough wrote: > > > > For crond, /usr/bin/sendmail is hardcoded. You can recompile crond to use > > /bin/mail instead of sendmail, or fake /usr/bin/sendmail with a shell script > > of sorts, given that crond really has a very predictible way of calling it. You can edit /etc/nail.rc and add: set smtp=mail.relay.com and edit /etc/sysconfig/crond to add "-m/bin/mail" to CRONDARGS That _should_ make cron use mail, which would be properly configured to use the relay of your choice. Misa From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Mar 17 19:40:15 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJeFWW026591 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:40:15 GMT Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJeFwE031059 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:15 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20080317194011H0200aei2ue>; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:40:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B9F17F307 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 05822-03-3 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id A236317FC05; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:40:02 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:40:16 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:30:09PM -0400, Mihai Ibanescu wrote: > > You can edit /etc/nail.rc and add: > set smtp=mail.relay.com > > and edit /etc/sysconfig/crond to add "-m/bin/mail" to CRONDARGS > > That _should_ make cron use mail, which would be properly configured to use > the relay of your choice. Unfortunately, as I discover after more carefully reading the output of the search for "mail" on rBuilder, there are no available versions of mailx for "production" rPath Linux. They are all for "rpl:devel," "rpl:2-devel" and "rpl:2-qa," so I seem to be back where I started. I guess I will have to wait for version 2 to come out before I can address this. Thank you for all of the good suggestions, Brian From smg@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 19:46:56 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJkuh4026851 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:46:56 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJkuZH032055 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:46:56 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (mr-nibbles.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m2HJkul9001275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:46:56 -0400 From: Stu Gott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:46:56 -0000 Brian McCullough wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:30:09PM -0400, Mihai Ibanescu wrote: > >> You can edit /etc/nail.rc and add: >> set smtp=mail.relay.com >> >> and edit /etc/sysconfig/crond to add "-m/bin/mail" to CRONDARGS >> >> That _should_ make cron use mail, which would be properly configured to use >> the relay of your choice. >> > > Unfortunately, as I discover after more carefully reading the output of > the search for "mail" on rBuilder, there are no available versions of > mailx for "production" rPath Linux. They are all for "rpl:devel," > "rpl:2-devel" and "rpl:2-qa," so I seem to be back where I started. I > guess I will have to wait for version 2 to come out before I can address > this. > > > Thank you for all of the good suggestions, > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > conary rq --path /bin/mail --config "installLabelPath conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" nail:runtime=11.22-2.3-1 I don't know the relationship between nail and mailx, but their manpages are supiciously similar. Stu From gafton@rpath.com Mon Mar 17 19:53:00 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJqxHE026977 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:52:59 GMT Received: from zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (zimbra.rpath.com [66.192.95.196] (may be forged)) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HJqx2o000338 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:52:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EADC32EA64 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:52:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -3.95 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.95 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJECT_EXCESS_BASE64=0.449] Received: from zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PQ00H6NPxOVv for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gafton.rdu-vpn.rpath.com (gafton.rdu-vpn.rpath.com [172.16.65.33]) by zimbra.dmz-rdu.rpath.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383D232EA63 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:52:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Cristian Gafton To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6ICJudWxsIiBNVEE=?= In-Reply-To: <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> Message-ID: References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:53:00 -0000 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stu Gott wrote: > conary rq --path /bin/mail --config "installLabelPath > conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" > nail:runtime=11.22-2.3-1 > > I don't know the relationship between nail and mailx, but their manpages > are supiciously similar. nail is mailx enhanced... yeah. Cristian -- Cristian Gafton rPath, Inc. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Mar 17 20:07:45 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HK7jh7027331 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:07:45 GMT Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2HK7jG3002046 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:07:45 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20080317200744H0500dc4ome>; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:07:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACBE17FBFF for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 05939-02-2 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6A83417FC05; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:07:43 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080317200743.GA6028@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:07:46 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 03:46:56PM -0400, Stu Gott wrote: > > > conary rq --path /bin/mail --config "installLabelPath > conary.rpath.com@rpl:1" > nail:runtime=11.22-2.3-1 > > I don't know the relationship between nail and mailx, but their manpages > are supiciously similar. Thanks, Stu. I saw you use /etc/nail.rc, but made an assumption and didn't ask if you had made a typo. Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue Mar 18 12:42:07 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2ICg7M7017062 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:42:07 GMT Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2ICg6Vh011273 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:07 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20080318124206H0100mtb29e>; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:42:06 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC67D17FB7F for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 25556-05 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3BBFD17FB90; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:05 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: "null" MTA Message-ID: <20080318124205.GA25839@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080317163738.GB4814@bdmcc-us.com> <47DEA170.4080904@rpath.com> <20080317173542.GB5107@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317175845.GA5276@bdmcc-us.com> <20080317183009.GA20464@roadrunner.rdu.rpath.com> <20080317194002.GC5711@bdmcc-us.com> <47DECAB0.20907@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:42:07 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 03:52:58PM -0400, Cristian Gafton wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stu Gott wrote: > > > I don't know the relationship between nail and mailx, but their manpages > > are supiciously similar. > > nail is mailx enhanced... yeah. Thanks, guys. I received my first mail from that domU this morning! I will use this elsewhere. Brian From smithj@rpath.com Wed Mar 26 08:44:14 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2Q8iDDG024660 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:44:13 GMT Received: from mail2.freethemallocs.com (mail2.freethemallocs.com [65.99.199.134]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2Q8iDg2028961 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:44:13 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (209-112-181-25.static.acsalaska.net [209.112.181.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.freethemallocs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502164169 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <47EA0CD8.7060704@rpath.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:44:08 -0800 From: Jonathan Smith Organization: rPath Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Source: ruby=1.8.6_p114-0.2 References: <47ea0b81.HnuXgNdtx+cOFp3L%apache@rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <47ea0b81.HnuXgNdtx+cOFp3L%apache@rpath.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=73DA45E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:44:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 apache@rpath.com wrote: | ================================ | ruby:source=1.8.6_p114-0.2 (previous: 1.8.6_p114-1) | cvc rdiff ruby -1 /conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1-devel/1.8.6_p114-0.2 | ================================ | 1.8.6_p114-0.2 Jonathan Smith (smithj) (https://issues.rpath.com) Wed Mar 26 03:38:22 2008 | [SECURITY] fix multiple issues in firefox CVE-2008-1233 CVE-2008-1234 CVE-2008-1235 CVE-2008-1236 CVE-2008-1237 CVE-2008-1238 CVE-2007-4879 CVE-2008-1195 CVE-2008-1240 CVE-2008-1241 (RPL-2401) | | ruby-1.8.6-p114.tar.bz2: new | ruby-1.8.6-p114.tar.bz2: removed This was, obviously, a mistake. I'd revert it, but it seems to be a noop... anyone know what's up with that? smithj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkfqDNgACgkQCG91qXPaRenFTgCgloAPXznZmgslSo32UEAgEA7v R1oAmgOUjVwL8mIrgPj0tVJ22rvwGTow =Cxv8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri May 16 02:19:24 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4G2JOlT003761; Fri, 16 May 2008 02:19:24 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4G2JNfT014353; Thu, 15 May 2008 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4G2JErl014026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 May 2008 22:19:15 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4G2JE2R014490; Thu, 15 May 2008 22:19:14 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m4G2JEpZ014489; Thu, 15 May 2008 22:19:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:19:14 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2.0 available Message-ID: <20080516021914.GA14324@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: distro@distrowatch.com, lwn@lwn.net X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 02:19:24 -0000 http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2008/05/09/rpath_linux_2_available rPath is pleased to announce that rPath Linux 2 is now available and recommended for general use as an appliance platform. rPath Linux is a base operating system platform on which you easily build customized virtual or software appliances, or even an entire operating system of your own. Building on the rPath Linux foundation, use rPath's tools to create and maintain your own minimal operating system stack, with "Just Enough OS" to support the applications and services you include. What's new? rPath Linux 2 is the next step in the evolution of the rPath Linux platform. In addition to a technology refresh (new versions of included packages), rPath Linux 2 is better tuned as a platform to show off your work. o Just Enough OS: rPath Linux 2 is smaller than rPath Linux 1. The group-appliance-platform recommended base software set is approximately half as large in rPath Linux 2 as rPath Linux 1, and the kernel is approximately a third smaller. o Brandable Boot Splash: rPath Linux 2 implements a graphical boot process which is easy to customize to look the way you want. It does not require that your appliance include the X Window System, and thus uses very little disk space. o Additional security mechanisms: several additional runtime security measures have been added to most packages ("stack protector" and "FORTIFY_SOURCE") and are enabled by default when you build your own software on the rPath Linux 2 platform. o More robust system boot: The syslinux boot loader is now the default bootloader. This well-maintained boot loader is highly extensible, easily branded, and most importantly can be automatically updated safely and reliably. The syslinux boot loader has been the most common boot loader for ISO images for most Linux distributions for years; now it is the most capable system boot loader as well. o The new Appliance Installer option installs your appliance software on systems in only a few minutes, requiring less memory than the earlier package-based installation mechanism. (It is still possible to use the slower package-based installation mechanism if you need to do so, but all the images we are building for the core OS at this time use the faster appliance installer.) rPath Linux Images ================== rPath has built three sets of images for rPath Linux 2. Each set is based on a different group which defines the included software set: o group-dist: A developer tool consisting of a large installation intended for developing Conary-based appliances, particularly for using Conary to discover a wide range of potential build requirements for packages, and for experimenting with the contents of the rPath Linux 2 operating system. (Remember that rPath Linux 2 is not a general-purpose desktop operating system; although X is included in this image, it is not an X desktop!) o group-text-devel: A developer tool consisting of core text-mode-only development tools, useful primarily as a platform for running the rMake build tool to build packages. o group-appliance-platform: A developer tool which contains only core software recommended to be on all normal Conary-based appliances. This is not intended to be useful itself. Instead, you can install this image and then migrate to a group that you have built using the group-appliance superclass during testing, before you create any images. You can also use it as a "vanilla" base installation on which to install software during the process of experimenting with defining an appliance. After installing appliance-specific software in an image installed from group-appliance-platform, the command conary updateall --items will show you group-appliance-platform plus the software you have installed, which you can then compare to the group recipe you define when following the step-by-step instructions for building appliances rPath Linux 2 is the software in the Conary repository; these images are merely snapshots of some of the contents of the repository. http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=6071 Updates, Bugs, And Features =========================== rPath Linux 1 and rPath Linux 2 will be updated in parallel while rPath Linux 1 is maintained (at least until November 2008). Because rPath Linux 2 is an appliance operating system rather than a desktop operating system, rPath recommends that users of rPath Linux 1 update to an appropriate Conary-based operating system for their needs. Foresight Linux is the most widely-used and actively-developed Conary-based desktop operating system. Many purpose-built server appliances are maintained on rBuilder Online for various services. If none of them meet your needs, consider building your own purpose-built server appliance on rBuilder Online. It is easy to do, and step-by-step instructions teach the process easily. http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Application_to_Appliance rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance updates, are published in several ways: o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce o To receive both security and maintenance updates, as well as summaries of changes by group version, subscribe to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce or subscribe to http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Advisories:rPath_Linux_2_Changes Please help us make rPath Linux better! Create issues to report bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit the rPath Issue Tracking System at https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath Linux" project to file your request. Thanks ====== rPath would like to thank everyone who helped test the software that has become rPath Linux 2. Special thanks go to Foresight Linux (http://www.foresightlinux.org/) for building Foresight Linux 2 based on rPath Linux 2 betas. Conary made it possible for the Foresight developers to test the software on Foresight development and QA branches before publishing updates tested as part of Foresight to Foresight users. From rafiu@openfiler.com Fri May 16 02:22:45 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4G2MjYp003831 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 02:22:45 GMT Received: from delhi.openfiler.com (mx.openfiler.com [84.45.94.230]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4G2Mimh014586 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 22:22:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by delhi.openfiler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE7E41C93F for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 03:20:02 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -4.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.277 tagged_above=-10 required=4.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.122, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from delhi.openfiler.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delhi.openfiler.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ahpy+uJGWlQ5 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 03:19:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.254.144] (unknown [84.12.112.162]) by delhi.openfiler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5705F41C0CA for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 03:19:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <482CEFEE.30303@openfiler.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 03:22:38 +0100 From: Rafiu Fakunle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: rPath Linux 2.0 available References: <20080516021914.GA14324@logo.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20080516021914.GA14324@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 02:22:45 -0000 Michael K. Johnson wrote: Congrats to you and the crew! :) R. > http://blogs.conary.com/index.php/conarynews/2008/05/09/rpath_linux_2_available > > rPath is pleased to announce that rPath Linux 2 is now available > and recommended for general use as an appliance platform. rPath > Linux is a base operating system platform on which you easily > build customized virtual or software appliances, or even an entire > operating system of your own. Building on the rPath Linux foundation, > use rPath's tools to create and maintain your own minimal operating > system stack, with "Just Enough OS" to support the applications > and services you include. What's new? > > rPath Linux 2 is the next step in the evolution of the rPath Linux > platform. In addition to a technology refresh (new versions of > included packages), rPath Linux 2 is better tuned as a platform to > show off your work. > > o Just Enough OS: rPath Linux 2 is smaller than rPath Linux 1. > The group-appliance-platform recommended base software set is > approximately half as large in rPath Linux 2 as rPath Linux 1, > and the kernel is approximately a third smaller. > > o Brandable Boot Splash: rPath Linux 2 implements a graphical boot > process which is easy to customize to look the way you want. It > does not require that your appliance include the X Window System, > and thus uses very little disk space. > > o Additional security mechanisms: several additional runtime > security measures have been added to most packages ("stack > protector" and "FORTIFY_SOURCE") and are enabled by default > when you build your own software on the rPath Linux 2 platform. > > o More robust system boot: The syslinux boot loader is now the > default bootloader. This well-maintained boot loader is > highly extensible, easily branded, and most importantly can be > automatically updated safely and reliably. The syslinux boot > loader has been the most common boot loader for ISO images for > most Linux distributions for years; now it is the most capable > system boot loader as well. > > o The new Appliance Installer option installs your appliance > software on systems in only a few minutes, requiring less memory > than the earlier package-based installation mechanism. (It is > still possible to use the slower package-based installation > mechanism if you need to do so, but all the images we are > building for the core OS at this time use the faster appliance > installer.) > > > rPath Linux Images > ================== > > rPath has built three sets of images for rPath Linux 2. Each set is > based on a different group which defines the included software set: > > o group-dist: A developer tool consisting of a large installation > intended for developing Conary-based appliances, particularly > for using Conary to discover a wide range of potential build > requirements for packages, and for experimenting with the > contents of the rPath Linux 2 operating system. (Remember that > rPath Linux 2 is not a general-purpose desktop operating system; > although X is included in this image, it is not an X desktop!) > > o group-text-devel: A developer tool consisting of core > text-mode-only development tools, useful primarily as a platform > for running the rMake build tool to build packages. > > o group-appliance-platform: A developer tool which contains only > core software recommended to be on all normal Conary-based > appliances. This is not intended to be useful itself. Instead, > you can install this image and then migrate to a group that > you have built using the group-appliance superclass during > testing, before you create any images. You can also use it as a > "vanilla" base installation on which to install software during > the process of experimenting with defining an appliance. After > installing appliance-specific software in an image installed from > group-appliance-platform, the command conary updateall --items > will show you group-appliance-platform plus the software you > have installed, which you can then compare to the group recipe > you define when following the step-by-step instructions for > building appliances > > rPath Linux 2 is the software in the Conary repository; these images > are merely snapshots of some of the contents of the repository. > http://www.rpath.com/rbuilder/project/rpath/release?id=6071 > > > Updates, Bugs, And Features > =========================== > > rPath Linux 1 and rPath Linux 2 will be updated in parallel while > rPath Linux 1 is maintained (at least until November 2008). Because > rPath Linux 2 is an appliance operating system rather than a > desktop operating system, rPath recommends that users of rPath > Linux 1 update to an appropriate Conary-based operating system > for their needs. Foresight Linux is the most widely-used and > actively-developed Conary-based desktop operating system. Many > purpose-built server appliances are maintained on rBuilder Online for > various services. If none of them meet your needs, consider building > your own purpose-built server appliance on rBuilder Online. It is > easy to do, and step-by-step instructions teach the process easily. > http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Application_to_Appliance > > rPath Linux update advisories, both for security and maintenance > updates, are published in several ways: > > o To receive only security updates but not maintenance updates, > subscribe to security-announce@lists.rpath.com at > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce > o To receive both security and maintenance updates, as well as > summaries of changes by group version, subscribe > to update-announce@lists.rpath.com at > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/update-announce > or subscribe to > http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Advisories:rPath_Linux_2_Changes > > Please help us make rPath Linux better! Create issues to report > bugs or ask for new features in rPath Linux. Visit the rPath Issue > Tracking System at https://issues.rpath.com/ and use the "rPath > Linux" project to file your request. > > > Thanks > ====== > > rPath would like to thank everyone who helped test the software > that has become rPath Linux 2. Special thanks go to Foresight Linux > (http://www.foresightlinux.org/) for building Foresight Linux 2 based > on rPath Linux 2 betas. Conary made it possible for the Foresight > developers to test the software on Foresight development and QA > branches before publishing updates tested as part of Foresight to > Foresight users. > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list > From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon May 19 15:58:10 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JFwAjH029932 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:10 GMT Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JFw9Ke023137 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:58:09 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20080519155808H05006hv74e>; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273BB17FB63 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 06156-01-5 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B10A117FC02; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:58:07 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Couple of rPath questions Message-ID: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:10 -0000 Folks, Although I am running Foresight on the machine where I notice this most often, I have also seen it in other rPath Linux installations. First, why do you get a "crash" message from Gnome every time you close the Help window? Secondly, I have been trying to remember, and find, the control that changes from "smooth scrolling" to "line-by-line" scrolling. I seem to remember it being a window manager ( or other global item ) setting rather than an application-level control. Does anybody remember where I can change this setting? Thanks all, Brian From smithj@rpath.com Mon May 19 18:17:26 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JIHQIb001236 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 18:17:26 GMT Received: from mail2.freethemallocs.com (mail2.freethemallocs.com [65.99.199.134]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JIHQjT008884 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:17:26 -0400 Received: from [72.37.225.181] (login.freethemallocs.com [72.37.225.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.freethemallocs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABF864150 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 18:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4831C42A.2090302@rpath.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:17:14 -0800 From: Jonathan Smith Organization: rPath Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Couple of rPath questions References: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> In-Reply-To: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=73DA45E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:17:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 These questions should be directed to one of the Foresight lists. rPath Linux is not intended to be a general-purpose desktop OS. smithj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAkgxxCoACgkQCG91qXPaRenzGQCYxiaFZcQIjGr77y+FafWdECt5 DACeJAxdntCzmRDjQRJpZIH8dPEUGr8= =1TjM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon May 19 18:31:50 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JIVop6001560 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 18:31:50 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JIVoLY010393 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:31:50 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4JIVnm2010390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:31:49 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JIVnSN015951 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:31:49 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m4JIVnA6015950 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:31:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:31:49 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Couple of rPath questions Message-ID: <20080519183149.GA15870@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:31:50 -0000 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:58:07AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > First, why do you get a "crash" message from Gnome every time you close > the Help window? I don't. > Secondly, I have been trying to remember, and find, the control that > changes from "smooth scrolling" to "line-by-line" scrolling. I seem to > remember it being a window manager ( or other global item ) setting > rather than an application-level control. Does anybody remember where I > can change this setting? Firefox has a new default of smooth scrolling. It is configured in Firefox. I've never heard of some shared config of that sort, nor am I personally aware of other apps that commonly make that distinction. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon May 19 19:25:37 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JJPajC002293 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 19:25:36 GMT Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4JJPa5c015308 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:36 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080519192535H0600432j2e>; Mon, 19 May 2008 19:25:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862AA17FC75 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 07066-04-2 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 074EF17FC0C; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:29 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Couple of rPath questions Message-ID: <20080519192529.GA7193@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> <20080519183149.GA15870@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080519183149.GA15870@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:25:37 -0000 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 02:31:49PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:58:07AM -0400, Brian McCullough wrote: > > First, why do you get a "crash" message from Gnome every time you close > > the Help window? > > I don't. I had a feeling that I was "special!" I wonder whether I can remove and re-install that "feature," or if I just live with it. I suspect that it is so deeply entwined within Gnome that it can't really get it out of a running system. > > Secondly, I have been trying to remember, and find, the control that > > changes from "smooth scrolling" to "line-by-line" scrolling. I seem to > > remember it being a window manager ( or other global item ) setting > > rather than an application-level control. Does anybody remember where I > > can change this setting? > > Firefox has a new default of smooth scrolling. It is configured in > Firefox. I've never heard of some shared config of that sort, nor > am I personally aware of other apps that commonly make that distinction. Ah, ha! Thank you. At least I now have a place to dig. I thought that I had seen that somewhere else some time ago ( couple of years? ), but I am probably mistaken. Brian From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Tue May 20 02:10:30 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4K2AUet010677 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 02:10:30 GMT Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4K2AT5V000709 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:29 -0400 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with ESMTP id <20080520021029H0300lm838e>; Tue, 20 May 2008 02:10:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5A217FB63 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 08894-05 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1AD7017FC02; Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:28 -0400 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Couple of rPath questions Message-ID: <20080520021028.GB9082@bdmcc-us.com> References: <20080519155807.GA6162@bdmcc-us.com> <4831C42A.2090302@rpath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4831C42A.2090302@rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 02:10:30 -0000 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:17:14AM -0800, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > These questions should be directed to one of the Foresight lists. rPath > Linux is not intended to be a general-purpose desktop OS. I'm sorry Jonathan. I guess that that has changed since I installed it on my machines. I will keep on running conary update, though, unless you want me to uninstall it. Brian From paul@vindicia.com Wed May 28 15:48:33 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SFmWEn010998 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:32 GMT Received: from em01.sj.vindicia.com (64.124.135.58.available.above.net [64.124.135.58] (may be forged)) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SFmWAN029671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 11:48:32 -0400 Received: from paul-h-yoshimunes-macbook-pro.local (unknown [75.149.50.41]) by em01.sj.vindicia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5996E33C810F for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483D7ECE.1050309@vindicia.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:48:30 -0700 From: "Paul H. Yoshimune" Organization: Vindicia, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Latest PHP build... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:33 -0000 All: The latest PHP build (4.3.11-15.17-1) requires the httpd package (via /usr/sbin/httpd), whereas it was not required in the previous build (4.3.11-15.16-1). Is this actually a new requirement, or did that slip in somehow? Thanks! -Paul From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed May 28 16:15:12 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SGFBWq011874 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:11 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SGFBQ5000471 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:11 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4SGFBuS024411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:11 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SGFBh3025207 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:11 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m4SGFBJT025206 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:11 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Latest PHP build... Message-ID: <20080528161510.GA25068@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <483D7ECE.1050309@vindicia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483D7ECE.1050309@vindicia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:12 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 08:48:30AM -0700, Paul H. Yoshimune wrote: > The latest PHP build (4.3.11-15.17-1) requires the httpd package (via > /usr/sbin/httpd), whereas it was not required in the previous build > (4.3.11-15.16-1). Is this actually a new requirement, or did that slip > in somehow? Thanks! It's from a new policy that says that files in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ imply a dependency on httpd: $ conary rq php=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 --troves --deps --file-deps ... /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf Requires: file: /usr/sbin/httpd ... So it's an intentional result of a change to conary-policy released in conary-policy 1.0.17: https://issues.rpath.com/browse/CNP-110 From paul@vindicia.com Wed May 28 17:46:14 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SHkE4X014804 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:46:14 GMT Received: from em01.sj.vindicia.com (64.124.135.58.available.above.net [64.124.135.58] (may be forged)) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SHkECl014310 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:14 -0400 Received: from paul-h-yoshimunes-macbook-pro.local (unknown [75.149.50.41]) by em01.sj.vindicia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62AF33C801A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483D9A65.5070809@vindicia.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:46:13 -0700 From: "Paul H. Yoshimune" Organization: Vindicia, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Latest PHP build... References: <483D7ECE.1050309@vindicia.com> <20080528161510.GA25068@logo.rdu.rpath.com> In-Reply-To: <20080528161510.GA25068@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020601030604070509040702" X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:46:15 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020601030604070509040702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 08:48:30AM -0700, Paul H. Yoshimune wrote: > >> The latest PHP build (4.3.11-15.17-1) requires the httpd package (via >> /usr/sbin/httpd), whereas it was not required in the previous build >> (4.3.11-15.16-1). Is this actually a new requirement, or did that slip >> in somehow? Thanks! >> > > It's from a new policy that says that files in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ > imply a dependency on httpd: > > $ conary rq php=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 --troves --deps --file-deps > ... > /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf > Requires: > file: /usr/sbin/httpd > ... > > So it's an intentional result of a change to conary-policy released > in conary-policy 1.0.17: > https://issues.rpath.com/browse/CNP-110 > Thanks Michael! --------------020601030604070509040702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael K. Johnson wrote: 
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 08:48:30AM -0700, Paul H. Yoshimune wrote:
  
The latest PHP build (4.3.11-15.17-1) requires the httpd package (via 
/usr/sbin/httpd), whereas it was not required in the previous build 
(4.3.11-15.16-1).  Is this actually a new requirement, or did that slip 
in somehow?  Thanks!
    

It's from a new policy that says that files in /etc/httpd/conf.d/
imply a dependency on httpd:

$ conary rq php=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1 --troves --deps --file-deps
...
    /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf
      Requires:
        file: /usr/sbin/httpd
...

So it's an intentional result of a change to conary-policy released
in conary-policy 1.0.17:
https://issues.rpath.com/browse/CNP-110
Thanks Michael!

--------------020601030604070509040702-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed May 28 22:16:27 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SMGQtc022133 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:16:26 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SMGQ5T015932 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4SMGQG8001937 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4SMGQFe029154 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:16:26 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m4SMGPnu029153 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:16:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:16:25 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Latest PHP build... Message-ID: <20080528221625.GA29045@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <483D7ECE.1050309@vindicia.com> <20080528161510.GA25068@logo.rdu.rpath.com> <483D9A65.5070809@vindicia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483D9A65.5070809@vindicia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:16:27 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46:13AM -0700, Paul H. Yoshimune wrote: > Thanks Michael! Welcome! :) I guess I should say also that to remove this dependency, the most obvious thing is to create a derived package that removes the /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf file. For more information on derived packages, see: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary:Derived_Packages From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri Oct 31 17:23:01 2008 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9VHN1kO004597; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:23:01 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9VHN0MW021546; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:00 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m9VHN0WK017183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:00 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9VHMxEY021183; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:22:59 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id m9VHMxwN021182; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:22:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:22:59 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com, update-announce@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 1 Maintenance Status Reminder Message-ID: <20081031172259.GA21141@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:23:01 -0000 As a courtesy to rPath Linux 1 users, rPath would like to remind you that rPath Linux 1 general maintenance is nearing an end. rPath Linux 2 was released on May 15, 2008. The six months of overlapping general maintenance are drawing to an end, so general maintenance for rPath Linux 1 will cease on November 15, 2008. After November 15, rPath Appliance Platform Linux Service 1 (rLS 1) will continue to be maintained for rPath customers. This will include proactive security updates as well as software maintenance in response to issues raised by rPath's customers. The updates will be available for rLS 1 and for the elements of rPath Linux 1 that are required for rPath's customers to develop software for rLS 1. rPath strongly encourages users to adopt rPath Linux 2 and the rPath Appliance Platform Linux Service 2 (rLS 2). In addition to being an overall technology refresh with new versions of included packages, rPath Linux 2 is specifically designed to be a platform on which to deploy your applications. Here are just a few of the enhancements you will find in rPath Linux 2: o Smaller footprint: The recommended base software set in rPath Linux 2 is approximately half the size of that in rPath Linux 1, and the kernel is approximately a third smaller. o Brandable Boot Splash: rPath Linux 2 implements a graphical boot process which is easy to customize. It does not require that your appliance include the X Window System, and thus uses very little disk space. o Additional security mechanisms: Several additional runtime security measures have been added to most packages ("stack protector" and "FORTIFY_SOURCE") and are enabled by default. o More robust system boot: The syslinux boot loader is now the default. This well-maintained boot loader is highly extensible, easily branded and can be automatically updated safely and reliably. o Appliance Installer: This new option installs your appliance software on systems in only a few minutes, requiring less memory and completing more quickly than the earlier package-based installation mechanism. These enhancements and others are now available in rPath Linux 2 and rLS 2. Take advantage of these new features now by building your appliances on top of the rPath Linux 2 or rLS2 platform. Please contact your rPath representative with any questions you may have about this announcement. rPath is proud to bring you rPath Linux 2 and will gladly provide advice and assistance for your upgrade. The components of rLS 1 and rLS 2 are listed at: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Appliance_Platform/Linux_Service:_Components From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Wed Jan 28 15:25:52 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0SKPqpi009123 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:25:52 GMT Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0SKPpIC012918 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:52 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20090128202551H0600aui90e>; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:25:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960152EE2F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 21204-01-3 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 24AC72EE2E; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:26 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Strange Mail Message-ID: <20090128202526.GA21118@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:25:52 -0000 I just ( day or two ago ) received three strange messages from both distro-list and conary-list. They were in response to my "Subscribe" requests, almost four years ago! ??? Confused, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Wed Jan 28 16:35:20 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0SLZKA8009395 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:35:20 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0SLZJPw018536 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n0SLZJVR031944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0SLZJRf003932 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:35:19 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id n0SLZJEh003931 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:35:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:35:19 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Strange Mail Message-ID: <20090128213518.GA3904@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20090128202526.GA21118@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128202526.GA21118@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:35:20 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:25:26PM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I just ( day or two ago ) received three strange messages from both > distro-list and conary-list. > > They were in response to my "Subscribe" requests, almost four years ago! Long ago, there was some mail misconfiguration, details of which were lost in the mists of time, which caused some mail messages in mailman to be "shunted". These messages were found and cleared yesterday, during investigation of mail server configuration issues. Sorry for the confusion. From bdmc@bdmcc-us.com Mon Feb 16 11:27:47 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n1GGRlKf002393 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:27:47 GMT Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n1GGRfdg028372 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:27:46 -0500 Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([65.13.154.193]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20090216162741H010045029e>; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:27:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.154.193] Received: from localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [192.168.1.133]) by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059091802EE for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdmcc-us.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bdmcc-us.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 02568-02-2 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdmcc-us.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 63B6E1802DC; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:27:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:27:19 -0500 From: Brian McCullough To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Xen Dom0 Message-ID: <20090216162719.GA2536@bdmcc-us.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:27:47 -0000 I have been thinking of upgrading my several-year-old rPath Xen server to a more modern installation. One thought was to use Citrix's Xen Server 5, but I would rather use rPath. However, hunting through the system ( rBuilder, wiki, etc. ), I am having trouble finding any current information. The wiki points me at two pages, the Virtual Appliances:Xen Dom0 on rPath Linux page, which was last edited in early March, a year ago, and the Troubleshooting Guide referred to on that page, last edited a few months before that. The Xen Dom0 on rPath Linux page also points to an image to use, Xen Dom0 Server, which is an rPath 1.0.5 image, no newer than my existing server. Did development of the Dom0 side stop a year ago, and if so, what is your recommendation for upgrade? Thank you, Brian From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Feb 17 10:17:08 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n1HFH8Q6006728 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:17:08 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n1HFH8r2025750 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:08 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n1HFH7Hu014252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:07 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n1HFH7Ya022279 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:07 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id n1HFH7i9022278 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:07 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Xen Dom0 Message-ID: <20090217151707.GA22043@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20090216162719.GA2536@bdmcc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090216162719.GA2536@bdmcc-us.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:17:08 -0000 For rPL2, we have dom0 flavors, and you can install the base OS and migrate to the dom0 flavor. Images are at http://www.rpath.org/project/rpath/release?id=6071 You can pick one of the small images (as appropriate for your architecture) and then migrate: conary migrate --interactive 'group-dom-server[xen dom0]' While we have continued to use Xen dom0 technology (for instance, rBuilder 5 -- just announced a few weeks ago -- is based on Xen dom0 in rPath Linux 2), we're really focused on the contents of the images. You're welcome to use our dom0, but also welcome to use dom0 from other providers. We are, in particular, not aggressively updating our xen dom0 kernels for new hardware support. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:27:19AM -0500, Brian McCullough wrote: > I have been thinking of upgrading my several-year-old rPath Xen server > to a more modern installation. > > One thought was to use Citrix's Xen Server 5, but I would rather use > rPath. However, hunting through the system ( rBuilder, wiki, etc. ), I > am having trouble finding any current information. > > The wiki points me at two pages, the Virtual Appliances:Xen Dom0 on > rPath Linux page, which was last edited in early March, a year ago, and > the Troubleshooting Guide referred to on that page, last edited a few > months before that. The Xen Dom0 on rPath Linux page also points to an > image to use, Xen Dom0 Server, which is an rPath 1.0.5 image, no newer > than my existing server. > > Did development of the Dom0 side stop a year ago, and if so, what is > your recommendation for upgrade? > > > Thank you, > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From johnsonm@rpath.com Fri May 15 23:07:48 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n4G37mLQ019028 for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 03:07:48 GMT Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n4G37m3q009738 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:48 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n4G37m5G009205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:48 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n4G37mFP013055 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:48 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id n4G37lwb013054 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:07:47 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: rPath Linux 2.0.1 images available Message-ID: <20090516030747.GA2434@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <20080516021914.GA14324@logo.rdu.rpath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080516021914.GA14324@logo.rdu.rpath.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 03:07:49 -0000 Following the release of the 2.6.29.3 kernel and new anaconda, I am announcing the release of refreshed install images of rPath Linux 2. As with the 2.0 images, the 2.0.1 images are intended primarily for testing and development for building your own domain-specific system images and appliances based on rPath Linux; rPath Linux 2 is not intended or maintained as a generic end-user operating system. To download images, visit: http://www.rpath.org/project/rpath/release?id=6408 For more information on rPath Linux 2, please visit its web page: http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rPath_Linux:rPath_Linux_2 From satyasrinivasp@hcl.in Tue Oct 20 08:26:28 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9KCQSEI000424 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:26:28 -0400 Received: from gws08.hcl.in (gws08.mail.hcl.in [203.105.186.28]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9KCQQqi031310 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:26:27 -0400 Received: from gws08.hcl.in (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSA (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A1A20F02D for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:25 +0530 (IST) Received: from chn-egw02-out.corp.hcl.in (unknown [10.249.64.38]) by gws08.hcl.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E2420F012 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:25 +0530 (IST) Received: from chn-egw02-in.corp.hcl.in ([10.249.64.38]) by chn-egw02-out.corp.hcl.in with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:28 +0530 Received: from chn-hclin-ht01.CORP.HCL.IN ([10.249.64.35]) by chn-egw02-in.corp.hcl.in with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:28 +0530 Received: from CHN-HCLT-CASHT1.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN (10.108.45.33) by chn-hclin-ht01.CORP.HCL.IN (10.249.64.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.340.0; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:24 +0530 Received: from chn-hclt-evs06.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN ([fe80::3d0d:efa3:3da8:2ae9]) by CHN-HCLT-CASHT1.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:55:35 +0530 From: Srinivas Naga Venkatasatya Pasagadugula To: "distro-list@lists.rpath.com" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:55:34 +0530 Subject: Submitting Driver for Adaptec ASC 1045/1405 SAS/SATA Controllers Thread-Topic: Submitting Driver for Adaptec ASC 1045/1405 SAS/SATA Controllers Thread-Index: AcpRgGvhzJxVaLHaQUSUXRYP9VLvEg== Message-ID: <6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777@CHN-HCLT-EVS06.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777CHNHCLTEVS06H_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2009 12:26:28.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C17E380:01CA5180] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:02:50 -0400 Cc: "Meena Shanmugam, TLS-Chennai" , Yugendranath R Singh X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:26:28 -0000 --_000_6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777CHNHCLTEVS06H_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We=20are=20planning=20to=20submit=20the=20Adaptec=20ASC=201045/1405=20dri= ver=20which=20uses=20the=20Marvell=2088SE6440=20chip=20for=20rpath-2.=20T= his=20driver=20is=20based=20on=20Linux=20kernel-2.6.31-mvsas=20driver.=20= Please=20let=20us=20know=20the=20process=20for=20the=20same. 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 --_000_6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777CHNHCLTEVS06H_-- From johnsonm@rpath.com Tue Oct 20 14:05:29 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9KI5T3w001836 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9KI5TNB009630 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9KI5TBv025919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9KI5TQF007580 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id n9KI5TWC007579 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:29 -0400 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: Submitting Driver for Adaptec ASC 1045/1405 SAS/SATA Controllers Message-ID: <20091020180528.GA7520@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777@CHN-HCLT-EVS06.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6B62480106F2B34D8404CF2FDAA4D9EF38546AA777@CHN-HCLT-EVS06.HCLT.CORP.HCL.IN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:05:30 -0000 All drivers flow into rPath Linux through inclusion in the upstream Linux kernel. Thanks! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 05:55:34PM +0530, Srinivas Naga Venkatasatya Pasagadugula wrote: > Hi, > > We are planning to submit the Adaptec ASC 1045/1405 driver which uses the Marvell 88SE6440 chip for rpath-2. This driver is based on Linux kernel-2.6.31-mvsas driver. Please let us know the process for the same. > > Thanks > Srini > > > > DISCLAIMER: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. > It shall not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Any views or opinions presented in > this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of HCL or its affiliates. > Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of > this message without the prior written consent of the author of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any mail and > attachments please check them for viruses and defect. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > distro-list mailing list > distro-list@lists.rpath.com > http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From mj@mjw.se Sat Nov 21 17:06:22 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nALM6Mbx014063 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:06:22 -0500 Received: from ns2.mjwh.eu (ns2.mjwh.eu [88.80.28.43]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id nALM6LjZ010884 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:06:22 -0500 Received: from jonsson2 ([85.226.19.225]) by ns2.mjwh.eu ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:06:18 -0800 From: "mattias" To: Subject: openvpn Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:06:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000101ca6af6$dbcd62d0$e113e255@jonsson2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080214-0, 2008-02-14), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:47:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:06:23 -0000 Sorry if this i wrong list How to install openvpn in rpath When i run Conary update openvpn Not found From johnsonm@rpath.com Mon Nov 23 20:43:07 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAO1h7Wf022892 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 Received: from rdu-nat.rpath.com (rdu-nat.rpath.com [66.192.95.194]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAO1h71Y032515 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (logo.rdu.rpath.com [172.16.58.38]) by rdu-nat.rpath.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nAO1h7qB013317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 Received: from logo.rdu.rpath.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAO1h7Ej013172 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 Received: (from johnsonm@localhost) by logo.rdu.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id nAO1h7CX013171 for distro-list@lists.rpath.com; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:07 -0500 From: "Michael K. Johnson" To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Subject: Re: openvpn Message-ID: <20091124014307.GA12958@logo.rdu.rpath.com> References: <000101ca6af6$dbcd62d0$e113e255@jonsson2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000101ca6af6$dbcd62d0$e113e255@jonsson2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:43:08 -0000 On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:06:21PM +0100, mattias wrote: > Sorry if this i wrong list > How to install openvpn in rpath > When i run > Conary update openvpn > Not found openvpn is not part of rPath Linux, but it has been built in the contributed software repository. Assuming you are using a system based on rPath Linux 2, you can run: conary update openvpn=contrib.rpath.com@rpl:2 From mj@mjw.se Tue Nov 24 14:09:19 2009 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id nAOJ9IPe025895 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:09:18 -0500 Received: from ns2.mjwh.eu (ns2.mjwh.eu [88.80.28.43]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id nAOJ9Hwr020055 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:09:18 -0500 Received: from jonsson2 ([85.226.19.215]) by ns2.mjwh.eu ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:09:15 -0800 From: "mattias" To: Subject: SV: openvpn Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: <007901ca6d39$a03287b0$d713e255@jonsson2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20091124014307.GA12958@logo.rdu.rpath.com> Thread-Index: Acpsp5NLNxQXlKLsQWmGrSKaF553sQAkf3MA X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091124-0, 2009-11-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com id nAOJ9IPe025895 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:09:19 -0000 I tryed it on the port25 if you no what is are -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: distro-list-bounces@lists.rpath.com [mailto:distro-list-bounces@lists.rpath.com] För Michael K. Johnson Skickat: den 24 november 2009 02:43 Till: distro-list@lists.rpath.com Ämne: Re: openvpn On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:06:21PM +0100, mattias wrote: > Sorry if this i wrong list > How to install openvpn in rpath > When i run > Conary update openvpn > Not found openvpn is not part of rPath Linux, but it has been built in the contributed software repository. Assuming you are using a system based on rPath Linux 2, you can run: conary update openvpn=contrib.rpath.com@rpl:2 _______________________________________________ distro-list mailing list distro-list@lists.rpath.com http://lists.rpath.com/mailman/listinfo/distro-list From mj@mjw.se Thu Feb 18 08:56:59 2010 Received: from mx2.rpath.com (proxy1.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com [172.16.180.40]) by lists-app.eqx-dc2-be.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o1IDuxia012243 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:56:59 -0500 Received: from mjw.se (mjw.se [88.80.28.43]) by mx2.rpath.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o1IDuc7k032073 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:56:59 -0500 Received: from jonsson2 ([85.226.22.153]) by mjw.se with SMTP (Code-Crafters Ability Mail Server 2.70); Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:56:30 -0000 From: "mattias" To: Subject: postfix Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:56:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000301cab0a2$31ced6f0$9916e255@jonsson2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcqwojBKX5GuIxKLR8uvSWlAixRi+w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-BeenThere: distro-list@lists.rpath.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: distro-list@lists.rpath.com List-Id: rPath Distribution Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:57:00 -0000 How to install postfix I only recive errors